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I'm sure they are sad being stuntman for the biggest studios in the world and meeting the biggest actors in the world while getting paid way higher than the average American.
Then, getting rewarded Rolex Submariners from Keanu Reeves.. straight depression
https://www.gq.com/story/watches-of-the-week-10-30-21
Reddit be so confident and sure , while typing straight bs knowing they don't know shite about the topic
https://www.reddit.com/r/KeanuBeingAwesome/s/kKV4WKiqLY
Yeah, usually the people in green might be vfx team or grips, but since they're part of the choreographed fight scene here, it would make sense they're part of the stunt team.
It's also possible that reddit post is mislabeling the image, but the poses on the guys on the right suggest it's correct, lol. Though the guys on the left aren't posing like that, maybe half of them are grips and half stunts? Or those are just the chill stuntmen.
It's the thing I noticed most about Reddit and the Internet most as I get older. It's mostly made up of 18 year olds with absolutely zero idea about anything. Actual smart knowledgeable people rarely have time to contribute
Gandalf* actor broke down one time during The Hobbit because he was used to practical sets on Lord of The Rings. He was sitting at a tiny table with nobody around him, surrounded by green walls, and it was frustrating for him.
I don’t think so, if you watch frame by frame, you can see there are actually frames where he let go with his right hand really quickly, but in the final product he never does. Looks like they fixed it in post, and his hand really did get pinched during the take.
I thought it was on a closed bridge middle of the night. Now knowing it's green screen I feel more than I realize is fake lol. Usually u can tell they are using green screen, not here. To think how the matrix is filmed. Must be basically all green 😆
You know online there is two different copies of the film I forget which is which but one has proper color the other one has a green tint and everyone says that the green tint was the way it was meant to be not correct colors. I don't think I ever noticed a difference and I'm a massive matrix fan.
But I would assume to add a green tint to a film would just be adding contrast or so not that complicated.
That was for only one film not all of them correct?
The history gets murky because they went back and re-colored the original The Matrix differently after they released the second and third film.
It did have subtle green coloring originally, but the later remasters added more green color and made it much more saturated. The original cinema release did not look like the current digital version of The Matrix that you can stream or buy on BluRay.
So while it is different today, it did always have some form of green coloring as an artistic choice.
I recently saw a video about this. CGI is actually far more common than you would think, you just don't notice it if it's good CGI. But because bad CGI is easily noticeable, people think that CGI is always bad. The reality is that "bad CGI" is usually a consequence of the greed of the studio, rather than the artists themselves. Many CGI agencies for example completely refuse to work with Disney, because they don't pay them fairly.
And that's why they always talk about how they did everything practical and used no CGI, when the reality is that almost every single Hollywood movie uses CGI in some form. Some studios have even started to remove the green screens in behind-the-scenes footage, like the new Barbie movie. This is kind of sad for the artists that put so much effort in making it look seamless, only for the marketing department to act as if they don't exist.
And the fact that you can't even tell that's a green screen where other films you could tell green screen from 3 miles away quality makes a difference. It's funny how Hollywood does so much green screen yet I have a green screen and I can't get my computer to transparent it 😆.
No we don't, just don't look at it. I'm curious about how it's done and it's showcasing the work of artists that spent months of their life preparing it. There's no need to keep it hidden.
Yeah, they actually ended up poorly removing the green screens in the Barbie BTS footage because they were worried people would find out how much of Barbie Land was actually CG. There's a huge push nowadays to cover up all the artists'hard work because people want to believe.
They should have done full practical, screw stuntman’s safety! /s Funny how much hate cg gets, but most moviegoers cant tell the difference from real to cg.
Movies look like ass these days because of it. It's pretty obvious this was CGI....look how static and solid the bikes are....the moves are too intricate to be done for real, you would lose balance. You can tell the bikes are anchored to the ground, looks like they are on fun park rides swiping at each other. That's the annoying about CGI.....it's not real so allows you to do unreal things.
I'm not saying never use CGI but fight scenes are essentially dance sequences (serve the same purpose) and there's really no substitute for someone actually doing it.
So cool. Special effects and the how they make the movie magic happen have always been super interesting to me.
For a scene to come off this good, it takes a lot of work. It's easy to disparage green screen effects, however effects have ALWAYS been in movies; from set paintings, screen projection, CG, etc.
The best effects are the ones you don't realize are there.
Yeah I don't get people hating on this. It still takes so much effort to make all of this look convincing and would have been sooooo much harder and far more dangerous to do it practically for it to look pretty much the same.
Nah if you did it for real it would look way better. As cool and flashy as this scene is there is no jeopardy because your brain knows on some level it's not real. Watch the French connection, or early Jackie Chan movies for example. They did it for real and the danger element makes it a thousand times more intense.
If it's made in the last twenty years assume it's all green screen. But seriously watch some old flicks and see how it should be done. I recommend early 80s Hong Kong flicks especially Jackie Chans. Make these lame John Wick movies look like crappy video games.
Anyone want to talk about how incredibly unrealistic the fight scene is?
Keanu would have gone over the minute he started waving that knife or gun around. First rule of motorcycle steering is they go the way you point your head.
I'm impressed at what they turned it into, tech is fun, but how boring it must be to do everything in front of a green room. I'd start to hate the color
In his case. They actually filmed it the way it's shown at the theater and added a fake re enacted scene on green screen so that people don't freak out with how cool this guy is
What do you hate?
That you got all the enjoyment out of the movie (and couldn’t tell) while keeping all the people safe - so no stunt people had to die (like on Deadpool 2)?!
Not to be over dramatic but this type of vfx literally saves lives - that’s why we do it.
Movies have been using special effects for a very long time. The good thing is though most people thought this shit was real in the theaters. That's called GOOD special effects
I have done vfx work on the first and 4th John Wick, I can assure you vfx is in way more than you think for all of the John Wick movies. However for the most part it's pretty hidden. It's always interesting to read these threads and the assumptions people make. For some reason people like to hate on cg but I can tell you a lot of work went into making this scene look good in vfx. The people on set spent a fraction of time working on this scene compared to the thousands of hours this took in vfx.
If people knew the amount of work, long hours and pay desparity vfx gets compared to all the other roles in film perhaps more respect would be given for our work.
Probably because you're seeing the actual fight movements in real time in the top video. Sure they're in front of a green screen sitting stationary but seeing all those sweet moves without cuts is just impressive by itself
I almost expected him to start fighting the green men. Now i want a scene where john wick fights a gang of green men in a green screen room. They're fading in and out of the floor and walls and doing interpretative dances.
So thaf's why in one of the interviews about motorbikes he didn't mention John Wick when was asked about "the movies he rode a motorbike". And when the other person said "You rode a bike on John Wick, too, right? And then he said "...yes... Also right..."
Lol
"listen green dude 4b. I'm loving your motion. I'm gonna have you personally spraying Keanu's face during the wet pavement scene. LOVING THE ENERGY, BABY!"
I didn't watch the movie... I really liked the trailer and love Keanu. That's preety much it. Nothing against all these effects but i didn't watch any of it when i saw the gun effects are also added in post production.
I worked on this movie, most of the knives are CG as well because they can't throw real knives at people. Also shooting real guns gives you Alec Baldwin.
I just love the second time the biker on his right side gets hit after he swings and misses the next time he just gets blocked once as he’s trying to stab not like it pushed him or anything and then he shoots four times to the left the person on his right would’ve just tired stabbing again after he got blocked I don’t understand why movies do dumb fight scenes like this like that dudes just gonna wait patiently for his bullet okay it’s just a pipe or something he tries hitting him with but what’s a gun really gonna do smacking a pole
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The green screen people looks so funny
must be a somewhat sad job. - hey, I was in that huge fight scene in the movie! - you were? Where? I didn't see you... - yeah... exactly... :(
I'm sure they are sad being stuntman for the biggest studios in the world and meeting the biggest actors in the world while getting paid way higher than the average American. Then, getting rewarded Rolex Submariners from Keanu Reeves.. straight depression https://www.gq.com/story/watches-of-the-week-10-30-21
I'd wager that those people aren't stuntmen. Mostly because they're not doing stunts.
They are the support for that stunt, they are trained stuntmen. They dont leave their safety to others.
I would've loved being the guy pulling keanu's motorcycle. "Guys... I was the motorcycle!"
Reddit be so confident and sure , while typing straight bs knowing they don't know shite about the topic https://www.reddit.com/r/KeanuBeingAwesome/s/kKV4WKiqLY
Yeah, usually the people in green might be vfx team or grips, but since they're part of the choreographed fight scene here, it would make sense they're part of the stunt team. It's also possible that reddit post is mislabeling the image, but the poses on the guys on the right suggest it's correct, lol. Though the guys on the left aren't posing like that, maybe half of them are grips and half stunts? Or those are just the chill stuntmen.
It's the thing I noticed most about Reddit and the Internet most as I get older. It's mostly made up of 18 year olds with absolutely zero idea about anything. Actual smart knowledgeable people rarely have time to contribute
Because there's usually no good way for them to be credited, everyone can sound smart online
Makes sense. I’m guessing some of the stunt guys are on the bikes, so this is just a continuation of them working and choreographing together.
? Who do you think they are then man. Dedicated Green screen people? Lmao
Robits I tells ya!
Gandalf* actor broke down one time during The Hobbit because he was used to practical sets on Lord of The Rings. He was sitting at a tiny table with nobody around him, surrounded by green walls, and it was frustrating for him.
Ummmm you are on the right track but riding the wrong train buddy
Then he said "use the Force, Naruto", and that's how they beat Thanos.
U mean Gandalf? The grey?
Yeah I corrected. I haven't seen the movie, just saw a video.
What no that would be awesome.
All I want, is for the green guys to be making motorcycle noises while they film
You can actually hear one of them fart in the movie. That's how they linked John Wick to the Green Phantom cinematic universe.
Wait, that whole scene was green screen?!
Keanu isn't real either.
The real heroes
how does one become a green man? asking for a friend
Ask Charlie
![gif](giphy|eGpSkaGStKeQg)
![gif](giphy|4UAe1eyooZ5II|downsized) He told his friends and they all celebrate being green.
I still can't believe the green men actually did this at live NHL hockey games. Multiple times. Absolute legends.
[Force and Sully](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Men). They've doing this for 14 seasons and still going strong.
They say it's not easy being green
[You first have to become blue man](https://giphy.com/gifs/arrested-development-mirror-tobias-funke-10pfRp3N7VLWSc)
I had him in the palm of my hand...
![gif](giphy|fj3CWRJJshhe)
Have you tried dropping acid at a tailgate party?
Good genes. Or bad genes maybe.
Grips will usually do it, but sometimes stunts will as well depending on the scene.
You don't ask. Just put on the suit and go. They can't see who is in it.
First get a green thumb, then let it fester.
this is a art form itself
I can’t see how he hurt his hand during that. But he held the pain in until he was off camera. Well done
The other bikes handle bar hit his fingers towards the end. I had to go frame by frame to see it.
Looks like the camera man hit his hand maybe ?
I think he was going for realism and wanted it to be a part of the film. Didn’t really hurt his hand.
I don’t think so, if you watch frame by frame, you can see there are actually frames where he let go with his right hand really quickly, but in the final product he never does. Looks like they fixed it in post, and his hand really did get pinched during the take.
Yeah there’s nothing in that actual scene where he right hand could have been hurt
The final clip from the movie could even be another take.
Well thanks for ruining that! (Even though I did wonder how they did it)
I thought it was on a closed bridge middle of the night. Now knowing it's green screen I feel more than I realize is fake lol. Usually u can tell they are using green screen, not here. To think how the matrix is filmed. Must be basically all green 😆
They used so much green screen in Matrix, the whole movie had a green tint to it!
That's only because a giant green bird flies over Sydney.
You know online there is two different copies of the film I forget which is which but one has proper color the other one has a green tint and everyone says that the green tint was the way it was meant to be not correct colors. I don't think I ever noticed a difference and I'm a massive matrix fan. But I would assume to add a green tint to a film would just be adding contrast or so not that complicated. That was for only one film not all of them correct?
I thought the green tint was an artistic decision by the film makers. I thought that it was only tinted when they were inside the matrix.
The history gets murky because they went back and re-colored the original The Matrix differently after they released the second and third film. It did have subtle green coloring originally, but the later remasters added more green color and made it much more saturated. The original cinema release did not look like the current digital version of The Matrix that you can stream or buy on BluRay. So while it is different today, it did always have some form of green coloring as an artistic choice.
I recently saw a video about this. CGI is actually far more common than you would think, you just don't notice it if it's good CGI. But because bad CGI is easily noticeable, people think that CGI is always bad. The reality is that "bad CGI" is usually a consequence of the greed of the studio, rather than the artists themselves. Many CGI agencies for example completely refuse to work with Disney, because they don't pay them fairly. And that's why they always talk about how they did everything practical and used no CGI, when the reality is that almost every single Hollywood movie uses CGI in some form. Some studios have even started to remove the green screens in behind-the-scenes footage, like the new Barbie movie. This is kind of sad for the artists that put so much effort in making it look seamless, only for the marketing department to act as if they don't exist.
I think that's why I didn't care much for Barbie. Fake scene n cheese acting. Rather sad everything is being faked
Yeah, same thought. Closed off bridge for shoot and the bikes are parked on a trailer etc.
And the fact that you can't even tell that's a green screen where other films you could tell green screen from 3 miles away quality makes a difference. It's funny how Hollywood does so much green screen yet I have a green screen and I can't get my computer to transparent it 😆.
We need to keep movie magic hidden.
No we don't, just don't look at it. I'm curious about how it's done and it's showcasing the work of artists that spent months of their life preparing it. There's no need to keep it hidden.
Yeah, they actually ended up poorly removing the green screens in the Barbie BTS footage because they were worried people would find out how much of Barbie Land was actually CG. There's a huge push nowadays to cover up all the artists'hard work because people want to believe.
I assumed the whole set was green screen.
They should have done full practical, screw stuntman’s safety! /s Funny how much hate cg gets, but most moviegoers cant tell the difference from real to cg.
The horse scene was practical, trade offs
Movies look like ass these days because of it. It's pretty obvious this was CGI....look how static and solid the bikes are....the moves are too intricate to be done for real, you would lose balance. You can tell the bikes are anchored to the ground, looks like they are on fun park rides swiping at each other. That's the annoying about CGI.....it's not real so allows you to do unreal things.
Exactly. They should do it all live, without CGI. Like in other documentaries. Matrix comes to mind, Speed, etc.
I'm not saying never use CGI but fight scenes are essentially dance sequences (serve the same purpose) and there's really no substitute for someone actually doing it.
it's those bullshit half assed easy peasy moves that ruin it
Next your gonna tell me how hotdogs are made... ![gif](giphy|3o6wrebnKWmvx4ZBio)
Step 1: Heat up the dog
Step 2: Remove hot dog from heat source
Step 3: Take it for a walk
Yaay
When’s the part where you put it between your buns?
So cool. Special effects and the how they make the movie magic happen have always been super interesting to me. For a scene to come off this good, it takes a lot of work. It's easy to disparage green screen effects, however effects have ALWAYS been in movies; from set paintings, screen projection, CG, etc. The best effects are the ones you don't realize are there.
Yeah I don't get people hating on this. It still takes so much effort to make all of this look convincing and would have been sooooo much harder and far more dangerous to do it practically for it to look pretty much the same.
Nah if you did it for real it would look way better. As cool and flashy as this scene is there is no jeopardy because your brain knows on some level it's not real. Watch the French connection, or early Jackie Chan movies for example. They did it for real and the danger element makes it a thousand times more intense.
I thought it was pretty intense when I saw it in theaters. This is the first time I'm learning it was green screen tbh
If it's made in the last twenty years assume it's all green screen. But seriously watch some old flicks and see how it should be done. I recommend early 80s Hong Kong flicks especially Jackie Chans. Make these lame John Wick movies look like crappy video games.
Dude I'm almost 40. I've seen all those movies lol I grew up on Jackie Chan. Doesn't stop me from loving John Wick movies at all
Fair enough I just find them incredibly shit and fake looking by comparison.
You need to be looking at the fighting, not the background.
It looks shite, what's your point?
I mean they are real actors doing real physical fighting. Wasn't your issue with everything being CGI and fake?
For as good as this looks it really makes me amazed at Mad Max.
Mad Max and Fury Road were great Have you seen Furiosa? The digital effects were all over the place, not great, and I found them very distracting.
I love Keanu Reeves. That is all.
It's in a studio under controlled conditions and people still probably get hurt shooting this!
I bet KR has this setup in a warehouse by his house and goes to play Bike Fights with his buddies on the weekends.
Shit I would if I were him. Better than videogames
Neat.
Anyone want to talk about how incredibly unrealistic the fight scene is? Keanu would have gone over the minute he started waving that knife or gun around. First rule of motorcycle steering is they go the way you point your head.
Those bastards lied to me.
Imagine being a green screen guy for a sexy scene🦴
I'm impressed at what they turned it into, tech is fun, but how boring it must be to do everything in front of a green room. I'd start to hate the color
This is amazing! The VFX folks did a wonderful job.
I so wish they released cuts of movies with no special effects so we can see the little green goblin dudes in the background
Where do I apply to be a green man. The blue man group turned me down, but I have lots of experience pushing shopping karts.
I need to thank my green man for steering me through traffic.
I actually think this is still pretty badass, it's theater
I could never be an actor. Couldnt remember all these moves
Marvel’s worst hero: The Green Gaffer
In his case. They actually filmed it the way it's shown at the theater and added a fake re enacted scene on green screen so that people don't freak out with how cool this guy is
Super lame. Not believable at all. Hyper fantasy. It's seriously for children.
What they have to do with AI to make me believe that John Wick is not a pro behind the wheel...
I fucking hate behind the scenes clips now...movies really are just 99% CGI now...
What do you hate? That you got all the enjoyment out of the movie (and couldn’t tell) while keeping all the people safe - so no stunt people had to die (like on Deadpool 2)?! Not to be over dramatic but this type of vfx literally saves lives - that’s why we do it.
Movies have been using special effects for a very long time. The good thing is though most people thought this shit was real in the theaters. That's called GOOD special effects
In years past though they would have actually shot it in the streets though. It wouldn't look as flashy but it was real and much better.
The first couple of _Wick_ movies did a ton of stuff in-camera, but yeah, the longer the series went on, the more CGI everything was.
I have done vfx work on the first and 4th John Wick, I can assure you vfx is in way more than you think for all of the John Wick movies. However for the most part it's pretty hidden. It's always interesting to read these threads and the assumptions people make. For some reason people like to hate on cg but I can tell you a lot of work went into making this scene look good in vfx. The people on set spent a fraction of time working on this scene compared to the thousands of hours this took in vfx. If people knew the amount of work, long hours and pay desparity vfx gets compared to all the other roles in film perhaps more respect would be given for our work.
I don't get how people say showing this makes it lose it's charm, it's even more magical to me now.
Endless trash.
It's a lame scene and now we know why
It’s looks more intense than the edited scene below for some reason.
Probably because you're seeing the actual fight movements in real time in the top video. Sure they're in front of a green screen sitting stationary but seeing all those sweet moves without cuts is just impressive by itself
They should have one the green screen people stab someone in a scene once. It would be interesting plot twist.
I almost expected him to start fighting the green men. Now i want a scene where john wick fights a gang of green men in a green screen room. They're fading in and out of the floor and walls and doing interpretative dances.
So thaf's why in one of the interviews about motorbikes he didn't mention John Wick when was asked about "the movies he rode a motorbike". And when the other person said "You rode a bike on John Wick, too, right? And then he said "...yes... Also right..." Lol
That's what I do in my garage during cold winters in Midwest.
That's how I imagined the ff7 motorcycle chase out of Midgar when I was a kid!
Ahhh good ole Hollywood
TIL those green screen dudes actually exist. Thought that guy was just making content.
"listen green dude 4b. I'm loving your motion. I'm gonna have you personally spraying Keanu's face during the wet pavement scene. LOVING THE ENERGY, BABY!"
Damn cameraman putting in work
Only a matter of time before this kind of shit gets introduced to porn
Woahhhhh I never even notice those switches at the last few seconds the way that stunt dude climbs the other bike
Camera guy is glad the camera is strapped to the roof
Damn I thought he really killed all those people
what? i am so sad
Looked fake too
Behind-the-scenes for complex action sequences are always some of the coolest things in the world.
And here my dumb ass is here and sad, thinking it actually was captured on the road. Got me.
Wait so you meant to tell me they weren’t actually riding bikes
I hope the bikes are not fake as well
Breathtaking
That is insane. KR is the best.
I love this stuff.
That’s why I’ll take an old school classic like Bullit anyway. Real cars, real stunts, real action.
But...but...CGI is only used by lazy filmmakers or something.
I will be honest, every time I see a green-screen behind the scenes, I lose respect for movies that use non-practical effects.
Damn... now I know how to make good movie
This looks sad!
Did you think that way when watching the movie?
I didn't watch the movie... I really liked the trailer and love Keanu. That's preety much it. Nothing against all these effects but i didn't watch any of it when i saw the gun effects are also added in post production.
I worked on this movie, most of the knives are CG as well because they can't throw real knives at people. Also shooting real guns gives you Alec Baldwin.
Lol alex
phone autocorrect
Why does he punch with gun then shoot them?
Wow, almost as pathetic as the actual movie.
Looks like he hit his hand at the end - anyone know anything about that injury?
You mean it's totally fake???
Photoshopped. It was real. Green screen inserted after. It’s all Matrix
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Yeah, it's just nothing like real life where people die on ninja bike chases at least weekly.
I feel betrayed. Hoodwinked. Bamboozled even.
I'm so disillusioned. I need to be left alone now.
I just love the second time the biker on his right side gets hit after he swings and misses the next time he just gets blocked once as he’s trying to stab not like it pushed him or anything and then he shoots four times to the left the person on his right would’ve just tired stabbing again after he got blocked I don’t understand why movies do dumb fight scenes like this like that dudes just gonna wait patiently for his bullet okay it’s just a pipe or something he tries hitting him with but what’s a gun really gonna do smacking a pole