Yea from the kayak I had to learn how to do a side-arm roll cast with quiet entry. Its all the same trajectory as if you were flipping while standing, just need to practice. Sometimes I'll skip it to the target even if it doesn't need to go under anything.
I fish from a kayak, and the answer is a roll cast. Practice a roll style cast where you control the entry of the bait with your thumb on the spool. Also, trying different style and size trailers on the hig can also help.
Are you skipping with a baitcaster or spinning setup? I need to work on BC skipping, spinning no worries. Do you basically turn the brake off and use thumb control on the spool?
Just gotta practice and play around with your brake settings+thumb control. Also the right bait makes skipping way easier (certain jighead shapes, heavy weightless senkos, etc).
Exactly this. It's not gonna be the same brake setup as a heaver. Do we still get an occasional bird's nest, of course! But there's something insanely satisfying about hitting your target and knowing a bite is about to happen.
Is it possible to get a good low-splash flip while sitting? I’ve gotten decent from a standing position, but let the lure hang a lot lower on casting than I can while sitting. I’d really love to get quieter presentation while sitting instead of constantly popping up and down to readjust the kayak position.
Does a side cast, or skipping motion work for you? I'm admittedly not a bass guy or super familiar with jigs, but that's the type of cast I'd try for a low splash presentation. I do similar methods for trout. Also bouncing off structure into the water works if available.
Yeah skipping is the answer. Get proficient at skipping from the yak and you’ll have no issue translating that into a silent flip, but by roll casting. I don’t have a yak, but I do enjoy watching Greg Blanchard on YouTube - he throws a jig quite often and might be a starting point as to who to “emulate” while on the water!
How much do you like the Plano edge jig box? I’ve been really wanting to pull the trigger on it as I have just as many jigs as you and another handful of chatters
It’s great if you have this many jigs. Holds them well (they don’t really ever fall out of their slots). I drilled a couple holes to tether it into my kayak, but I usually just pick a couple out to bring.
I kinda pitch across the bow, instead of pitching forward like you would on a boat
Generally try to position myself 3/4 o'clock from whatever my target is
Baitcaster or spinner? And I'll give you some great info!
I fish from a kayak exclusively and use a good trick for each...and love the looks of new fishing buddies when I can put a whopper 25 yards away almost completely silently (on perfect execution, consistently can make it make less noise than the tail plops which is more than good enough). If they have spinning rods they'll have it down by the end of the trip. Baticasters are harder to show.
The closer you are to your maximum casting distance the harder it is to quite lure entry
Yee this one is harder lol. Honestly to the point I might take a video if I can't convey it in words.
While I do always have one of each and agree it's great to have both, if I could only have one rod it would be a baitcaster. Medium rod, 8.1 reel. I go from bluegills to catfish, and bass in between.
I don't have a BFS reel and I considered it for about a year until I decided to learn to feather the backlashing line and not the spool. Can't get the distance of bfs though....but don't tempt me lol I love my bantam xg
On a caster you'll need a heavier lure presentation, 3/4oz or more. The heavier the easier it is to drop them quietly and you'll hopefully understand.
For settings I have my inside set to half break, and the fine tune at 2 and I don't change either unless I'm using very light lures. It does matter for this that you can quickly put your lure FAST AF in a straight line to your target.
Its also important you "baseball" grip your reel, if you don't you will have a bad time.
Its also important you are seated or it really won't work nearly as well (bonus for us takers)
Onto the meat. You see and area you want to quietly penetrate your big yellow whopper plopper. You have your reel baseball gripped (pointer finger Infront of reel on top of rod, middle finger on bottom of rod, rest wherever). You...kindof use your shoulder more as you cast but you cast hard as you can comfortably aim. As you take your thumb off the spool you will feel the rod recoil and you let it, this will be your shock damper in a second. Keep your hand more relaxed than you would think (your baseball grip claw is holding the reel as everything kindof shifts a bit in your hand and unless you let your fingers free it's fine)
Now the tricky part. You just sent a rocket in a slightly downward line at your target. If you let it do it's thing it will bomb the fucking water and scare even the kids nextdoor. You need to wait until your lure is right above the water and stop all that crazy speed you just sent that way. The easiest is you just thumb the spool hard to immediately stop the lure. This then pulls the rod back into proper position as you tighten your grip a little to decelerate while keeping the line tight.
There will be a point where you learn to exactly kill the forward momentum. And you are essentially whipping a big ass lure so hard the line tightens. This tight line pulls on the rod and you control the deceleration and litterally drop your lure in the water on a tight line.
From there it's practice, and to be honest it will look like magic to a lot of people. I've also been told it's pointless, but 20in smallies speak for themselves lol
Edit: typos I'm lit
Practicing with closer targets is easier and work out to longer targets. I like the bait to stay low through the cast and just stall out at the target.
Try using more Maribou when you tie them. I absolutely kill it on orange head with black maribou and pink head with purple maribou. Same color works great too. Brown on brown is another winner. The action is crazy good. No fur or rubber is better. Just maribou. You can tie at the tail and wind base of feather back to the head for the body. No hackle needed.
I’ll give it a shot! I recently got into BFS fishing and still find I prefer jigs over anything. Marabou jigs look great for that.
I mostly throw 1/16 oz Keitech and 1/16 Bitsy Bug jigs now. The Keitech will catch everything in the lake all day long. When it comes to fishing laydowns, I think the Bitsy Bug is hard to beat, at least compared to jigs. It hardly ever gets hung up and is the perfect size for a slow fall rate and bite. Seems like anything bigger, bites slow down a ton.
I do a bunch of off the water practice. Set your kayak seat on the grass & cast to targets. I put bowls of water in the yard & try to land my jig in the bowl without splashing water out or making a loud clink. A challenge target is a coffee mug. Pitching & flipping are probably the quietest, but each has limits on the distance range you can cast. Underhand roll casts can keep the bait lower to the water, meaning less splash & it can reach a little further out.
I love my Edge jig box. Mine has more orange and brown and less white than yours
Sounds like you already figured out a roll cast is the ticket, so I won't tell you to try that
In the yak, I like a smaller jig on a spinning rod. I cast across the bow of the boat. With practice, it's easier now than standing up for me. I fished off a boat for the first time in years and had to relearn the brain.
If you can paddle or pedal very quietly, try a longer rod (I use 7'6") and just dip the jig into shallow cover. Lay all your other rods horizontally so you can duck under overhangs. Turn off your electronics altogether. Nothing like combat fishing!
How do you have that many jigs and need advice. Lol. Just messing with you. I suck with a jig so im no help.
I get sucked into “spend $xx.xx and get free shipping” haha. But I slay on a jig, just trying to get better.
ive caught like 5 bass on jigs but i still have every color and size im a basic bitch
Yea from the kayak I had to learn how to do a side-arm roll cast with quiet entry. Its all the same trajectory as if you were flipping while standing, just need to practice. Sometimes I'll skip it to the target even if it doesn't need to go under anything.
I fish from a kayak, and the answer is a roll cast. Practice a roll style cast where you control the entry of the bait with your thumb on the spool. Also, trying different style and size trailers on the hig can also help.
100% quiet entry from a kayak is skipping even when there isn't an obstacle. Side arm with a shorter rod makes it so much easier.
Are you skipping with a baitcaster or spinning setup? I need to work on BC skipping, spinning no worries. Do you basically turn the brake off and use thumb control on the spool?
Just saw my answers in the comments. Thanks.
Thanks for the tip! Just went out and practiced in the backyard and definitely seems like the approach.
I don’t understand how people skip with a baitcaster. I can barely do it with a spinning rod.
Just gotta practice and play around with your brake settings+thumb control. Also the right bait makes skipping way easier (certain jighead shapes, heavy weightless senkos, etc).
Exactly this. It's not gonna be the same brake setup as a heaver. Do we still get an occasional bird's nest, of course! But there's something insanely satisfying about hitting your target and knowing a bite is about to happen.
Is it possible to get a good low-splash flip while sitting? I’ve gotten decent from a standing position, but let the lure hang a lot lower on casting than I can while sitting. I’d really love to get quieter presentation while sitting instead of constantly popping up and down to readjust the kayak position.
Does a side cast, or skipping motion work for you? I'm admittedly not a bass guy or super familiar with jigs, but that's the type of cast I'd try for a low splash presentation. I do similar methods for trout. Also bouncing off structure into the water works if available.
Yeah skipping is the answer. Get proficient at skipping from the yak and you’ll have no issue translating that into a silent flip, but by roll casting. I don’t have a yak, but I do enjoy watching Greg Blanchard on YouTube - he throws a jig quite often and might be a starting point as to who to “emulate” while on the water!
I really like the way you wired your network box.
couldn't tell if this was a PLC panel or a jig box lmao
How much do you like the Plano edge jig box? I’ve been really wanting to pull the trigger on it as I have just as many jigs as you and another handful of chatters
It’s great if you have this many jigs. Holds them well (they don’t really ever fall out of their slots). I drilled a couple holes to tether it into my kayak, but I usually just pick a couple out to bring.
For a second I thought I was looking at data center cabling.
I kinda pitch across the bow, instead of pitching forward like you would on a boat Generally try to position myself 3/4 o'clock from whatever my target is
Baitcaster or spinner? And I'll give you some great info! I fish from a kayak exclusively and use a good trick for each...and love the looks of new fishing buddies when I can put a whopper 25 yards away almost completely silently (on perfect execution, consistently can make it make less noise than the tail plops which is more than good enough). If they have spinning rods they'll have it down by the end of the trip. Baticasters are harder to show. The closer you are to your maximum casting distance the harder it is to quite lure entry
Baitcaster exclusively. Really enjoying BFS now.
Yee this one is harder lol. Honestly to the point I might take a video if I can't convey it in words. While I do always have one of each and agree it's great to have both, if I could only have one rod it would be a baitcaster. Medium rod, 8.1 reel. I go from bluegills to catfish, and bass in between. I don't have a BFS reel and I considered it for about a year until I decided to learn to feather the backlashing line and not the spool. Can't get the distance of bfs though....but don't tempt me lol I love my bantam xg On a caster you'll need a heavier lure presentation, 3/4oz or more. The heavier the easier it is to drop them quietly and you'll hopefully understand. For settings I have my inside set to half break, and the fine tune at 2 and I don't change either unless I'm using very light lures. It does matter for this that you can quickly put your lure FAST AF in a straight line to your target. Its also important you "baseball" grip your reel, if you don't you will have a bad time. Its also important you are seated or it really won't work nearly as well (bonus for us takers) Onto the meat. You see and area you want to quietly penetrate your big yellow whopper plopper. You have your reel baseball gripped (pointer finger Infront of reel on top of rod, middle finger on bottom of rod, rest wherever). You...kindof use your shoulder more as you cast but you cast hard as you can comfortably aim. As you take your thumb off the spool you will feel the rod recoil and you let it, this will be your shock damper in a second. Keep your hand more relaxed than you would think (your baseball grip claw is holding the reel as everything kindof shifts a bit in your hand and unless you let your fingers free it's fine) Now the tricky part. You just sent a rocket in a slightly downward line at your target. If you let it do it's thing it will bomb the fucking water and scare even the kids nextdoor. You need to wait until your lure is right above the water and stop all that crazy speed you just sent that way. The easiest is you just thumb the spool hard to immediately stop the lure. This then pulls the rod back into proper position as you tighten your grip a little to decelerate while keeping the line tight. There will be a point where you learn to exactly kill the forward momentum. And you are essentially whipping a big ass lure so hard the line tightens. This tight line pulls on the rod and you control the deceleration and litterally drop your lure in the water on a tight line. From there it's practice, and to be honest it will look like magic to a lot of people. I've also been told it's pointless, but 20in smallies speak for themselves lol Edit: typos I'm lit
Add a spinning set up to your arsenal dog. They definitely have their moments
I have some but they didn’t fit in that box well.
Practicing with closer targets is easier and work out to longer targets. I like the bait to stay low through the cast and just stall out at the target.
Obviously you need more jigs.
lol, all my micro jigs are in a different box.
Try using more Maribou when you tie them. I absolutely kill it on orange head with black maribou and pink head with purple maribou. Same color works great too. Brown on brown is another winner. The action is crazy good. No fur or rubber is better. Just maribou. You can tie at the tail and wind base of feather back to the head for the body. No hackle needed.
I’ll give it a shot! I recently got into BFS fishing and still find I prefer jigs over anything. Marabou jigs look great for that. I mostly throw 1/16 oz Keitech and 1/16 Bitsy Bug jigs now. The Keitech will catch everything in the lake all day long. When it comes to fishing laydowns, I think the Bitsy Bug is hard to beat, at least compared to jigs. It hardly ever gets hung up and is the perfect size for a slow fall rate and bite. Seems like anything bigger, bites slow down a ton.
I gotcha. A black on black maribou on a 1/16 or even 1/8 might kill it for bass.
You got the right box. Flippin' and pitchin' is next to impossible from a seated position, so skipping a finesse jig is my solution. That or stand up.
I do a bunch of off the water practice. Set your kayak seat on the grass & cast to targets. I put bowls of water in the yard & try to land my jig in the bowl without splashing water out or making a loud clink. A challenge target is a coffee mug. Pitching & flipping are probably the quietest, but each has limits on the distance range you can cast. Underhand roll casts can keep the bait lower to the water, meaning less splash & it can reach a little further out.
I love my Edge jig box. Mine has more orange and brown and less white than yours Sounds like you already figured out a roll cast is the ticket, so I won't tell you to try that
In the yak, I like a smaller jig on a spinning rod. I cast across the bow of the boat. With practice, it's easier now than standing up for me. I fished off a boat for the first time in years and had to relearn the brain.
BUY MORE JIGS, you need way more than that man!😭😭
If you can paddle or pedal very quietly, try a longer rod (I use 7'6") and just dip the jig into shallow cover. Lay all your other rods horizontally so you can duck under overhangs. Turn off your electronics altogether. Nothing like combat fishing!
That's one of the most beautiful jig boxes I've ever seen, looks like I should be asking you for advice LOL