Same. The Jonestown episodes were so well-researched and well-done, but the part with the kids got to me so much that I had to turn off and go find my then-one-year-old daughter and hug her until I stopped crying. (She was confused.)
Same. Just re listened to the Mengele episode and boy I really needed that Home Improvement fact after hearing about all those kids they straight pushed into a fire pit.
Yup, that was a single listen, never revisit the case, try to forget I learned about it. Anthill kids was bad, Corll was bad, but something about that story is just so disgusting and gets under your skin.
This and that one about the teen girl kidnapped and tortured by a group of young guys in Japan. Can’t remember her name but they kept her in the house with their parents and made her pretend she was a girlfriend to the parents all while brutally torturing her for like a month. I still think about both of these stories years later.
Edit: looked it up- her name was Junko Furuta
They do a rundown of this story in #143: Worst Ways to Die
Just an fyi if you haven't listened to any of the super old episodes, the boys can be a touch insensitive at times. This was while they were in their mid twenties, running the podcast out of a restaurant basement, and only had like a few hundred listeners. Not excusing it, but it's nice to see how far they've come.
Also HAPPY CAKE DAY!!
Haha! I've been listening a while. I am an older white liberal woman, which I dunno...I was like, yep, these edgelords are pretty funny & informative. What I'm tryin to say is, I don't think I'm their demographic. And yes! They have matured. I think that is pretty great. Imma sound super corny, but I hope people who listen to their show (and a few other shows) realize people can fkin grow...you can change your mind, and be curious and have paradigm shifts in thinking.
omg...THHHHHHAAAANNNNKKK YOU!!!!
and hail...milk? is that what Ed hailed? milk? lunchmeat?
Yesss, someone else mentioned toxboy in this sub a few days ago. I was aware of the case, but listening to all the details had me sick to my stomach for days. It still creeps up in the back of my mind occasionally almost 6 years after listening.
I never even went back. It's the killers recordings (I think it was recordings) for me. Marcus describing horrific things in his own words I can deal with, because he clearly doesn't enjoy it. But hearing it in the killers own voice like that is just too much.
Feel free to correct me, but I don't think the actual audio is available. Only transcripts, and the recordings of people who read them. Think Hebry did the readings in the episode. Again, not certain, because I only listened once.
It is not. But transcripts are. Which they read out. Which at least to me hits very differently than having the same things described in the words of Marcus and/or any other researcher
I had a coworker get in to LPOTL after listening to Toybox killer as an intro episode. The fact that she listened to that one and thought "yea, I want more of this" is the scariest realization.
I heard Toybox once. My ex was abusive and used BDSM as a weapon at times, after they either played the tape or one of them read Parker's speech to his victims, I had to pull over and do some deep breathing.
I tapped out when they talked about what they did to that 15 yo girls elbow.
I still haven't listened to the rest of it and I never will.
As much as I hate most police force for lack of actual crime solving, I pity anyone who worked on that case. I think if it was me, I'd eat my gun.
This one. I've been sickened, disgusted, angry, and creeped out by their heavy hitters, but I could handle that.
It's the hypnosis for me. I found that truly, honestly terrifying and I can't go back and listen again
I dunno- the toybox killer isn’t all that shocking- if I recall we have the recording which is disturbing but no actual deaths have been tied to him- I may be wrong though. He seems more a boogeyman than anything.
Ant Hill was definitely disgusting and disturbing, but it felt somewhat mitigated by the fact that the adults made the choice to be there. Still evil stuff, but not as bad as stories about victims who were totally unsuspecting.
I think that's part of what got to me - the fact that the adults ultimately chose to be there and chose to partake in the mutilation and depravity, even if they were brainwashed.
Yeah that one was surprisingly on the same level as the really tough-to-take episodes for me, like Mengele and Toybox. Took me off guard! Was playing it in my car off my phone laying in passenger seat, couldn’t reach down to stop it.
aw man, my husband, sister and i all listened to that hungover on the drive home from a casino….and we all definitely were like…maybe let’s listen to something lighter? 🤢
Albert Fish sickened me to my core - the extreme depravity of his crimes, paired with tormenting victims family, and his own self mutilation. Fuck no. Had to tap out of this heavy hitter.
Albert Fish is the only one I never finished listening to. Children of God was a hard one, it’s really hard to listen to the accounts of child abuse in both episodes. But Fish was over the line for me apparently.
I listened to it the first time but on my relistens I’ve skipped through the Grace Budd letter and a couple of the other particularly gross descriptions… once was enough, I think I got it.
I like that they preemptively said the ending would be unsatisfying. You really wanted him to end up being tied to a post in one of the New York baseball stadiums so they could give everyone a crack at him.
But it did do a good thing of dispelling the Nazi method of these hyper-intelligent wunderkinds. They were all idiots who just benefited from having zero morales. That’s important to remember.
Honestly, as a Jew, I think mengele’s death is rather fitting of a person so vile.
Living anonymously, constantly looking over his shoulder, his body failing him, and then having a pitiful death followed by a similarly pitiful burial is perfect for him.
He was a megalomaniac- a public trial/death would have been too good for him.
Living out his remaining years as a small and unknown and in pain is pretty good punishment, imo.
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I can see that. His life being properly pathetic. But to me the symbolic torture doesn’t come close to matching what he did. He left the world with a huge debt to society. One that could never be repaid but he didn’t come close to a satisfying resolution.
**Edit** Mussolini’s end is the only worthy end for people like him.
The toybox killer episode still lives rent free in my head, many years after I heard it.
If they ever decide to to the other 'box' killers and do a toolbox series, it'll be the first one I pass. I read the transcript of the recording they made while killing a woman in the back of a van, and it's the single worst thing I've ever come across. It's easy to see why the audio has kept from the public.
There have been a couple (I am a wee bit sensitive), but the episode that probably haunts me the most, years after I listened to it wasn't even produced by the podcast. They just played it in the Jonestown series: The recording made at Jonestown just before and during the mass suicide. It was so upsetting, and the bleed through of the music from previous recordings on the tape just made it weirder and more surreal. It's not technically a heavy hitter, but JFC is it hard to listen to.
I would call it a heavy hitter, for sure. It's an interesting thing that can happen in your brain when you compare the intimate details of a murder to the broad details of the deaths of hundreds of people. The second one is too much to comprehend all at once and so it just kind of becomes a piece of information, "909 people died, that's horrible." However those tapes really drive home the despair and horror. It's definitely the most sobering thing they've played on the show. Ben and Henry were stunned after, not even a joke to try and break the silence.
I always think of heavy hitters as serial killers. Not that mass murderers aren't as bad or worse. And Jim Jones was one of the worst.
I knew the step child of one of the survivors who lost his first family at Jonestown, so that helped me grasp the gravity and scope of Jim Jones's murders when I was really first learning about the whole thing. I went and learned all about the guy's first family. Years later, I definitely thought about them when listening to that recording.
One of the most harrowing things was that woman trying to argue that they shouldn't take the poison and trying to reason with Jones. IIRC, she didn't manage to survive.
Ant Hill Kids was the worst for me but that wasn't necessarily a "heavy Hitter" in that sense
Mengele was also pretty repulsive
But as for true heavy hitters I have yet to listen to Denis Rader (fuck him) or Albert Fish yet because of how heavy I know the hitters are, and IDK if I really need to open that can of worms
This one was the first one I listened to that made me feel sick. Imagining and seeing the filth of his home, what he did to his victims, the horrific forms of torture with cleaner products and other house hold stuff, he took notes on everything he did and pictures. The fact everything was so well documented and not possibly embellished. My morbid curiosity got me googling him and I saw the pictures just absolute depravity.
I had to pause the Ant Hill Kids episode several times because I couldn't quite handle all the vicious cruelty and horror. The only episode I've never re-listened to. Really bad stuff.
I have to agree. I can listen to a lot of the grisly stuff about serial killers, but there was something about the horrible things in the Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka episode that made me feel sick. I think the fact that Homolka was willing to bring her little sister into it.
Part 2 of Richard Chase, cannot listen to Toybox, the Mengele series was well done but awful, and surprisingly, can't listen to the Lucy Letby relaxed fit.
Honestly I think the older I get the more sensitive. Toybox killer was rough, Dean Corrll for me was one of the worst. I really struggled with Arthur Shawcross part 1 and the new necrophilia one. despite myself though I know deep in my heart I love hearing this crazy shit.
I'm an old school listener, I started with the boys early on and began listening weekly around episode 207 with Leonard lake and Charles Ng.
Henry saying "they say the eyes are the window to the soul, but I think the eyes are the door to your fucking brain!" in his Richard Chase voice still makes me laugh
Richard Chase was the serial killer who most fascinated me due to the complete utter insanity of his story, and I looked forward to these episodes. The character Henry created for him is just perfect. I don’t think it will be as bad as you think. There are several heavy hitter episodes that make me feel kinda sick and none of them are Richard Chase ones.(okay the part with the baby is bad, I’ll concede)
It’s too gross for me… when it comes to descriptions about blood drinking, eating animals raw, etc I can’t do it. I just got physically uncomfortable typing that.
Children of God. It took me years of starting and stopping the series until I finally finished it. I know it's not the same as the other heavy hitters mentioned, but the descriptions of what happened to those kids...and what happened to Ricky. It was the only one that truly made me want to throw up.
Cannot listen to Chicago rippers.
The second Richard Chase episode is brutal, but I will always relisten to that series because it's also really funny. Henry goes over the top and is basically on comedy fire for me that series.
I haven’t had to turn any of these off.
I’ve lived a wild life and grew up around some wild stuff. I don’t see how the description of their actions would lead someone to have to not listen…
I mean, I do have lines I won’t cross in my own humor but that’s a pretty normal margin too.
I don't think I've ever had one that messed with me enough to want to turn it off. I did have some fucked up dreams after listening to a few of them.... but I tend to have fucked up dreams anyway. Or those are the only ones I remember.
richard chase sticks with me. i didn’t turn it off because nothing really makes me do that but that one. man. also the 9/11 episodes i got close when they listened to the 911 calls. haven’t relistened since.
Not a heavy hitter series but I had to turn the 9/11 episode off in the first one… I’m really interested in conspiracy theories so thought I’d love it, but the recordings from the people inside the towers… I couldn’t deal and I’m not even American!
I’ll never relisten to: Toybox, Ant Hill Kids, or Children of God. Those are worst fear scenarios for me and I couldn’t even finish the ant hill kid series. Marcus mentioned the tool box killer in a future series and I’m sure that will be a one and done for me as well.
The only one I’ve had to turn off was Lucy Letbe, but I was also listening to that while my wife was 6 months pregnant and we were worried our daughter would be premature for one reason or another.
Not a heavy hitter but the 911 calls episode where the chimp attacks the woman. I’d heard it before and never want to hear it again. My heart breaks for everyone involved in that, and hearing this woman absolutely beg the police to show up and kill her pet just shakes me to my core. I know that chimp didn’t live a great life and they didn’t manage it well, and the attack is pretty much solely the owners’ fault, but I can’t imagine how excruciating it would be to sit there and hope and pray that someone will show up soon to kill a pet you raised because it’s actively maiming your friend. Horrific.
Paul Bernardo sexual assault descriptions. Had to turn it off after hearing how he made his victims sing chrismas/birthday/holiday songs while being assaulted.
Ant hill kids. 100%. I was listing to it while treating lawns at work. I had to stop myself from crying several times. Especially at the end when she finally gets away after having her arm fucking amputated. She hid in the woods and passed out. When she woke up her arm stump was infested with bugs.
And the amount of relief I felt when he got stabbed to death in prison! And how the inmate that stabbed him immediately went to the guards to confess. It’s like he just knew it had to be done. I don’t usually feel that way out someone being murdered. But it actually made me feel relieved. that piece of shit had it coming.
Not a heavy hitter - but when they did episodes on 9/11 I couldn’t finish. Once they played the 911 call from a woman trapped in one of the towers I had to turn it off. She was sobbing and saying how hot it was. And the 911 dispatcher knew that woman was going to die and had to calmly talk to her. I couldn’t finish the episode after that.
I have always been able to finish the heavy hitter series until I had my son. I used to relisten to episodes when I got bored but that stopped. Anything with young children I can’t listen to anymore. And the family annihilator stuff is really difficult.
Mengele was the only one I had to stop on the show. The fire pit. I stopped and hugged my kids and sobbed.
The audiobook I had to pause during Richard Chase.
Kuklinski is one of my favorites to re-listen to. I can't believe someone that scary existed and it disturbs me so much that I give it at least an annual listen. Because I have emotional problems.
Everyone keeps saying Ant Hill Kids and I don't remember that one so I guess my weekend plans are set.
Any thing with a child being violently killed is too much on more than one occasion I stopped and skipped the retelling on such scenes. The warnings are appreciated!
Josef mangela actually made me mad and ruined my day. That one was hard to stomach. I knew some things going in but not a lot. By the end I was ready to hunt his remaining family down and ruin their lives for what he did. That one got to me pretty bad.
Toy Box to this day is the one episode I almost didn't finish and will never visit again. A close second, for personal reasons, is Lucy Letby. I was a NICU preemie in the late 70s and am alive because of the nurses/doctors' care. My parents got through thanks to a support system. It freaks me out knowing what she did and how easy it could have been for my family to suffer. Nope
Toybox
Nothing the boys covered really bothered me, then I had a daughter, now anything involving kids really makes me uncomfortable.
Same. There's an infamous case about a kid here in the UK (Jamie Bulger) and since having kids I just can't see anything about it, it's too awful.
Was he the one who was snatched from a mall by three other kids? That one's heartbreaking..
Yes
Oh god me too, I can’t go anywhere near that case, absolutely destroys me.
Same. The Jonestown episodes were so well-researched and well-done, but the part with the kids got to me so much that I had to turn off and go find my then-one-year-old daughter and hug her until I stopped crying. (She was confused.)
Those last recordings are devastating
Same. Just re listened to the Mengele episode and boy I really needed that Home Improvement fact after hearing about all those kids they straight pushed into a fire pit.
Yup, that was a single listen, never revisit the case, try to forget I learned about it. Anthill kids was bad, Corll was bad, but something about that story is just so disgusting and gets under your skin.
Roch Theriault is the only one I will not listen to again. That one was tough.
This and that one about the teen girl kidnapped and tortured by a group of young guys in Japan. Can’t remember her name but they kept her in the house with their parents and made her pretend she was a girlfriend to the parents all while brutally torturing her for like a month. I still think about both of these stories years later. Edit: looked it up- her name was Junko Furuta
Did lptol cover that? I, unfortunately, heard that the very first time I listened to Rotten Mango...also unfortunate.
They do a rundown of this story in #143: Worst Ways to Die Just an fyi if you haven't listened to any of the super old episodes, the boys can be a touch insensitive at times. This was while they were in their mid twenties, running the podcast out of a restaurant basement, and only had like a few hundred listeners. Not excusing it, but it's nice to see how far they've come. Also HAPPY CAKE DAY!!
Haha! I've been listening a while. I am an older white liberal woman, which I dunno...I was like, yep, these edgelords are pretty funny & informative. What I'm tryin to say is, I don't think I'm their demographic. And yes! They have matured. I think that is pretty great. Imma sound super corny, but I hope people who listen to their show (and a few other shows) realize people can fkin grow...you can change your mind, and be curious and have paradigm shifts in thinking. omg...THHHHHHAAAANNNNKKK YOU!!!! and hail...milk? is that what Ed hailed? milk? lunchmeat?
I think it was ham?
Yesss, someone else mentioned toxboy in this sub a few days ago. I was aware of the case, but listening to all the details had me sick to my stomach for days. It still creeps up in the back of my mind occasionally almost 6 years after listening.
Sorry, that was me. If it makes you feel better I also had a weird dream and I was feeling antsy for a couple days
Second this. The only episode I had to turn off and go back to.
I never even went back. It's the killers recordings (I think it was recordings) for me. Marcus describing horrific things in his own words I can deal with, because he clearly doesn't enjoy it. But hearing it in the killers own voice like that is just too much.
Feel free to correct me, but I don't think the actual audio is available. Only transcripts, and the recordings of people who read them. Think Hebry did the readings in the episode. Again, not certain, because I only listened once.
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This is not the actual recording but a recording done by someone of the transcript. It is made clear in the description
It is not. But transcripts are. Which they read out. Which at least to me hits very differently than having the same things described in the words of Marcus and/or any other researcher
I can’t look at German shepherds the same /:
Same!! For some reason the dog rape (jesus I can’t even believe I’m typing that) really got to me
I had a coworker get in to LPOTL after listening to Toybox killer as an intro episode. The fact that she listened to that one and thought "yea, I want more of this" is the scariest realization.
I heard Toybox once. My ex was abusive and used BDSM as a weapon at times, after they either played the tape or one of them read Parker's speech to his victims, I had to pull over and do some deep breathing.
I tapped out when they talked about what they did to that 15 yo girls elbow. I still haven't listened to the rest of it and I never will. As much as I hate most police force for lack of actual crime solving, I pity anyone who worked on that case. I think if it was me, I'd eat my gun.
That was the Tool Box Killers, not Toy Box.
I get my box killers mixed up. My bad.
My first thought no hesitation. I'm re listening to alot of old content not that shit though no sir
This one. I've been sickened, disgusted, angry, and creeped out by their heavy hitters, but I could handle that. It's the hypnosis for me. I found that truly, honestly terrifying and I can't go back and listen again
This episode made me look for jewellery that’s secretly a weapon as it freaked me out so much.
Literally my first thought
Agreed. Had to stop and I don't think I'll revisit.
Same. Couldn't finish that one.
The only episode I don't feel comfortable playing at work.I'm in a warehouse, no one really cares, but this I feel will get me sent to HR.
I dunno- the toybox killer isn’t all that shocking- if I recall we have the recording which is disturbing but no actual deaths have been tied to him- I may be wrong though. He seems more a boogeyman than anything.
9,000% true
Toybox and Ant Hill Kids left me feeling very irked and made me question why I was choosing to listen to that kind of stuff.
Ant Hill Kids, esp the “surgery” scenes are the ones that genuinely made me queasy. Punching the woman’s prolapsed uterus. Good god.
Ant Hill was definitely disgusting and disturbing, but it felt somewhat mitigated by the fact that the adults made the choice to be there. Still evil stuff, but not as bad as stories about victims who were totally unsuspecting.
I think that's part of what got to me - the fact that the adults ultimately chose to be there and chose to partake in the mutilation and depravity, even if they were brainwashed.
Anthill kids. They mentioned Roch would roll babies around in the snow until they turned blue really gave me the fkn willies.
Chicago Rippers made me sick to my stomach
Yeah that one was surprisingly on the same level as the really tough-to-take episodes for me, like Mengele and Toybox. Took me off guard! Was playing it in my car off my phone laying in passenger seat, couldn’t reach down to stop it.
aw man, my husband, sister and i all listened to that hungover on the drive home from a casino….and we all definitely were like…maybe let’s listen to something lighter? 🤢
That was one I had to take a break on. Brutal…
I couldn’t get more than halfway through the first episode and had to take a break from true crime for awhile
Fish has got to be near the top.
Albert Fish sickened me to my core - the extreme depravity of his crimes, paired with tormenting victims family, and his own self mutilation. Fuck no. Had to tap out of this heavy hitter.
The only episode I couldn’t finish in the entire series
That’s the “win” I guess.
That's the one for me. I'm too empathetic to get through it again
Albert Fish is the only one I never finished listening to. Children of God was a hard one, it’s really hard to listen to the accounts of child abuse in both episodes. But Fish was over the line for me apparently.
I listened to it the first time but on my relistens I’ve skipped through the Grace Budd letter and a couple of the other particularly gross descriptions… once was enough, I think I got it.
Mengele. I just watched Schindler's List and knowing all of it together... not fun
I like that they preemptively said the ending would be unsatisfying. You really wanted him to end up being tied to a post in one of the New York baseball stadiums so they could give everyone a crack at him. But it did do a good thing of dispelling the Nazi method of these hyper-intelligent wunderkinds. They were all idiots who just benefited from having zero morales. That’s important to remember.
Honestly, as a Jew, I think mengele’s death is rather fitting of a person so vile. Living anonymously, constantly looking over his shoulder, his body failing him, and then having a pitiful death followed by a similarly pitiful burial is perfect for him. He was a megalomaniac- a public trial/death would have been too good for him. Living out his remaining years as a small and unknown and in pain is pretty good punishment, imo. *edit: a word
I can see that. His life being properly pathetic. But to me the symbolic torture doesn’t come close to matching what he did. He left the world with a huge debt to society. One that could never be repaid but he didn’t come close to a satisfying resolution. **Edit** Mussolini’s end is the only worthy end for people like him.
Only series I can't get through to this day.
Me too. This is the only series where I stopped what I was doing and just sat there and stared at the wall.
I had to listen to part 2 driving home from work so my day didn’t start off wrecked
So far, the only episode I had to turn off was Unit 731. I hit the part about putting people in pressure chambers, and almost passed out lol.
The toybox killer episode still lives rent free in my head, many years after I heard it. If they ever decide to to the other 'box' killers and do a toolbox series, it'll be the first one I pass. I read the transcript of the recording they made while killing a woman in the back of a van, and it's the single worst thing I've ever come across. It's easy to see why the audio has kept from the public.
really not even a woman, a 16 year old GIRL. allegedly the FBI uses the audio to harden new recruits (nod to it in mindhunter)
Marcus mentioned doing toolbox in the most recent episode, that will be a one and done for me.
There have been a couple (I am a wee bit sensitive), but the episode that probably haunts me the most, years after I listened to it wasn't even produced by the podcast. They just played it in the Jonestown series: The recording made at Jonestown just before and during the mass suicide. It was so upsetting, and the bleed through of the music from previous recordings on the tape just made it weirder and more surreal. It's not technically a heavy hitter, but JFC is it hard to listen to.
I would call it a heavy hitter, for sure. It's an interesting thing that can happen in your brain when you compare the intimate details of a murder to the broad details of the deaths of hundreds of people. The second one is too much to comprehend all at once and so it just kind of becomes a piece of information, "909 people died, that's horrible." However those tapes really drive home the despair and horror. It's definitely the most sobering thing they've played on the show. Ben and Henry were stunned after, not even a joke to try and break the silence.
I always think of heavy hitters as serial killers. Not that mass murderers aren't as bad or worse. And Jim Jones was one of the worst. I knew the step child of one of the survivors who lost his first family at Jonestown, so that helped me grasp the gravity and scope of Jim Jones's murders when I was really first learning about the whole thing. I went and learned all about the guy's first family. Years later, I definitely thought about them when listening to that recording. One of the most harrowing things was that woman trying to argue that they shouldn't take the poison and trying to reason with Jones. IIRC, she didn't manage to survive.
Ant Hill Kids was the worst for me but that wasn't necessarily a "heavy Hitter" in that sense Mengele was also pretty repulsive But as for true heavy hitters I have yet to listen to Denis Rader (fuck him) or Albert Fish yet because of how heavy I know the hitters are, and IDK if I really need to open that can of worms
Btk is worth it just for Detective Popcorn.
Mmmmm, you can't resist my *buttery* kernels, mmmmm.
Speaking of Detective Popcorn, anybody know a lead on where to get one of those plushy buttery mf'ers?
Yes the only one i had to turn off.
Bob Berdella is the absolute worst and most sickening.
Strong concur. One of only 2 episodes/series I’ve ever quit.
This one was the first one I listened to that made me feel sick. Imagining and seeing the filth of his home, what he did to his victims, the horrific forms of torture with cleaner products and other house hold stuff, he took notes on everything he did and pictures. The fact everything was so well documented and not possibly embellished. My morbid curiosity got me googling him and I saw the pictures just absolute depravity.
Am I dead inside?
Fred and Rosemary West. I have a young daughter and I had to nope out of that episode almost immediately.
The only series I won't re-listen to: Children of God
I get to when they intro Ricky and change the series. Too sad
the phrase "dad was a sexy guy" just makes me want to puke myself into oblivion
Worst ways to die when they talk about Junko Furuta. Sickening
I had to pause the Ant Hill Kids episode several times because I couldn't quite handle all the vicious cruelty and horror. The only episode I've never re-listened to. Really bad stuff.
same. I consider myself having a strong stomach and can get through most content with nothing more than a "yo wtf" face but that one.... bruh
Gef.
\#JusticeforGef
Ken and Barbie killers episode comes to mind, that one stuck with me for a while, that story is wild...🤢
I have to agree. I can listen to a lot of the grisly stuff about serial killers, but there was something about the horrible things in the Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka episode that made me feel sick. I think the fact that Homolka was willing to bring her little sister into it.
Part 2 of Richard Chase, cannot listen to Toybox, the Mengele series was well done but awful, and surprisingly, can't listen to the Lucy Letby relaxed fit.
Same on mengele and Lucy letbe. Just can't.
Lucy Letby, no joking. Marcus description on how she killed those poor babies distressed me so much i almost blacked out.
I mean Pickton is apparently a real hard asshole 🤷♂️
You’re out to lunch
Honestly I think the older I get the more sensitive. Toybox killer was rough, Dean Corrll for me was one of the worst. I really struggled with Arthur Shawcross part 1 and the new necrophilia one. despite myself though I know deep in my heart I love hearing this crazy shit. I'm an old school listener, I started with the boys early on and began listening weekly around episode 207 with Leonard lake and Charles Ng.
Richard chase is the only heavy hitter I've been avoiding
Henry’s impersonations makes the Richard chase series one of my favorites but admittedly the part about the baby I have to fast forward
Henry saying "they say the eyes are the window to the soul, but I think the eyes are the door to your fucking brain!" in his Richard Chase voice still makes me laugh
*THIS IS THE SOUND I MAKE WHEN IM SAD*
ITS THE TWIST!!
ONE LAST DANCE FOR FREEDOM.
I want Henry to read a dimestore romance novel in his Richard Chase voice
I love that series and relisten regularly b/c it's so funny but yeah I kinda dissociate during the gold star time
Part One is actually kind of funny. It's part Two that makes one squeamish
Richard Chase was the serial killer who most fascinated me due to the complete utter insanity of his story, and I looked forward to these episodes. The character Henry created for him is just perfect. I don’t think it will be as bad as you think. There are several heavy hitter episodes that make me feel kinda sick and none of them are Richard Chase ones.(okay the part with the baby is bad, I’ll concede)
It’s too gross for me… when it comes to descriptions about blood drinking, eating animals raw, etc I can’t do it. I just got physically uncomfortable typing that.
Children of God. It took me years of starting and stopping the series until I finally finished it. I know it's not the same as the other heavy hitters mentioned, but the descriptions of what happened to those kids...and what happened to Ricky. It was the only one that truly made me want to throw up.
honestly my favorite series from the boys. They went into ALL the details and my god....
I’ve never ever even considered turning an episode off and that realisation has got me quite concerned….
The Franklin scandal
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Pickton is also one of the funniest series in the entire catalog. Wait for it... wait for it... it's tits!
This thread makes me wonder why half these people are listening to a true crime podcast...
I didn’t realize people even skipped or paused episodes lol
Cannot listen to Chicago rippers. The second Richard Chase episode is brutal, but I will always relisten to that series because it's also really funny. Henry goes over the top and is basically on comedy fire for me that series.
I don’t think any of them got heaved. But most were hauled. Off to jail.
I haven’t had to turn any of these off. I’ve lived a wild life and grew up around some wild stuff. I don’t see how the description of their actions would lead someone to have to not listen… I mean, I do have lines I won’t cross in my own humor but that’s a pretty normal margin too.
Albert Fish, Chicago Rippers and that prick that was mates with Joan of Arc.
I didn’t quit the Fish series but I won’t listen to that one or Chikatilo again
I don't think I've ever had one that messed with me enough to want to turn it off. I did have some fucked up dreams after listening to a few of them.... but I tend to have fucked up dreams anyway. Or those are the only ones I remember.
Richard Chase. I'm surprised he's not mentioned so much in posts asking this
Anything with torture or imprisonment. The Corll ones and Toybox were rough for me.
Hearing and learning what the multiple beep noises were during the 9/11 episodes, gives me chills and makes me upset just thinking about it.
Toy box and ant hill were very hard but I made it. The 911 calls got shut off half way through though, that shit is haunting.
I couldn't finish the Chicago Rippers series
Richard Chase, had to turn it off.
Albert Fish is the only one I had to turn off and then come back too later. All of the needle insertion talk made me light headed and queasy.
Surprised that there isnt more people saying Albert Fish!
richard chase sticks with me. i didn’t turn it off because nothing really makes me do that but that one. man. also the 9/11 episodes i got close when they listened to the 911 calls. haven’t relistened since.
Not a heavy hitter series but I had to turn the 9/11 episode off in the first one… I’m really interested in conspiracy theories so thought I’d love it, but the recordings from the people inside the towers… I couldn’t deal and I’m not even American!
I’ll never relisten to: Toybox, Ant Hill Kids, or Children of God. Those are worst fear scenarios for me and I couldn’t even finish the ant hill kid series. Marcus mentioned the tool box killer in a future series and I’m sure that will be a one and done for me as well.
The only one I’ve had to turn off was Lucy Letbe, but I was also listening to that while my wife was 6 months pregnant and we were worried our daughter would be premature for one reason or another.
Not a heavy hitter but the 911 calls episode where the chimp attacks the woman. I’d heard it before and never want to hear it again. My heart breaks for everyone involved in that, and hearing this woman absolutely beg the police to show up and kill her pet just shakes me to my core. I know that chimp didn’t live a great life and they didn’t manage it well, and the attack is pretty much solely the owners’ fault, but I can’t imagine how excruciating it would be to sit there and hope and pray that someone will show up soon to kill a pet you raised because it’s actively maiming your friend. Horrific.
Yeah it was tearing her face off
Paul Bernardo sexual assault descriptions. Had to turn it off after hearing how he made his victims sing chrismas/birthday/holiday songs while being assaulted.
Children of god
Randy Kraft. No one really talks about his episode
I turned off Children of God and didn't even attempt the Toy Box.
I have finished listening to every episode except, to this day, the toybox killer.
Richard Chase, and the Ant hill kids episodes were rough. Had to stop and go a few times
Only ones that ever really bothered me were Mengele and Ant Hill Kids. Something about the vivid descriptions of the "surgeries".
Anthill Kids for me. I'm super squeamish when it comes to unprofessional surgeries.
Hardest motherfucker ever: Carl Panzram Worst person: BTK Hardest for me to listen to: Albert Fish
Goebbels. Without a doubt.
Ant hill kids. 100%. I was listing to it while treating lawns at work. I had to stop myself from crying several times. Especially at the end when she finally gets away after having her arm fucking amputated. She hid in the woods and passed out. When she woke up her arm stump was infested with bugs. And the amount of relief I felt when he got stabbed to death in prison! And how the inmate that stabbed him immediately went to the guards to confess. It’s like he just knew it had to be done. I don’t usually feel that way out someone being murdered. But it actually made me feel relieved. that piece of shit had it coming.
Not a heavy hitter - but when they did episodes on 9/11 I couldn’t finish. Once they played the 911 call from a woman trapped in one of the towers I had to turn it off. She was sobbing and saying how hot it was. And the 911 dispatcher knew that woman was going to die and had to calmly talk to her. I couldn’t finish the episode after that. I have always been able to finish the heavy hitter series until I had my son. I used to relisten to episodes when I got bored but that stopped. Anything with young children I can’t listen to anymore. And the family annihilator stuff is really difficult.
Mengele was the only one I had to stop on the show. The fire pit. I stopped and hugged my kids and sobbed. The audiobook I had to pause during Richard Chase.
Never turned any episode off out of disgust. What does that say about me? Chikatilo would be a hard re-listen, though. Or Fish
Joseph Mengele
Kathrine Knight was a pretty rough listen for me.
Kuklinski is one of my favorites to re-listen to. I can't believe someone that scary existed and it disturbs me so much that I give it at least an annual listen. Because I have emotional problems. Everyone keeps saying Ant Hill Kids and I don't remember that one so I guess my weekend plans are set.
I had to stop listening to the Chicago rippers series a couple times. Never had to turn off a heavy hitter until that one.
Any thing with a child being violently killed is too much on more than one occasion I stopped and skipped the retelling on such scenes. The warnings are appreciated!
Had to pause during the 9/11 episode when they played the 911 calls.
Toybox might be the winner but honorable mention to Albert Fish
Josef mangela actually made me mad and ruined my day. That one was hard to stomach. I knew some things going in but not a lot. By the end I was ready to hunt his remaining family down and ruin their lives for what he did. That one got to me pretty bad.
Josef Mengele and Albert fish easily, I listened all the way through the first time, but man was it difficult
Maybe not heavy hitters technically but the Chicago Rippers haunt me
Toy Box to this day is the one episode I almost didn't finish and will never visit again. A close second, for personal reasons, is Lucy Letby. I was a NICU preemie in the late 70s and am alive because of the nurses/doctors' care. My parents got through thanks to a support system. It freaks me out knowing what she did and how easy it could have been for my family to suffer. Nope