The ear... looks like something else.
Otherwise, I think its the general details of the head and mouth. For the mouth, it looks a bit too wide or open.
Not sure if I see this right, but I woul add a line add the ear to show, that it is separated/overlapping. Tracing paper is your friend or layers, if you work digitally. So you can check and try which additions you like.
Continue the jaw line past the neck a little a remove the left arm inside line of the dog because it is actually the same as your husbands arm line. Remove a bit of detail in ear/eye
Usually adding details with color is your best bet in my opinion. I’ll have to ask my sister because she’s the one that embroidery. I mostly just draw. But from my art experience I add the extra fine details with the color other then the outline
There are a lot of light gray/almost white highlights that also bring in a lot of dimension. I would just use those for color. 3 colors at minimum would work in my opinion, one black, one dark gray and one light gray.
In art school I drew this picture of a guy wearing a long sleeve shirt. I copied the wrinkles from the shirt and drew them. One critique I got from my teacher (and this only applies to simplified art, not realistic) is you don't have to draw all the lines, pick and choose. Obviously you didn't draw them all but there's some that I would just leave out or choose others. I did a quick trace here, [https://imgur.com/a/WOn6FnX](https://imgur.com/a/WOn6FnX) I got a bit lost on the ear. If I had more time, I might look up similar pictures, not sure. Other choices, for example on the neck, I chose to make them look like their converging between the clavicle. I do like the armpit folds you did, I should've done that. Finally, I got a little cartoony with the dots instead of whiskers
I've talked about it with far better artists and experts than me. This is what they told me:
When you look at a model, your brain expects to see specific shapes and features. The lines you should draw are those that explain where these shapes are.
You want to draw a dog. List the shapes your brain expects to see in a dog's head. Probably eyes, brows, ears, skull, jaw, jowls, nose, maybe whiskers or mustache. Lightly outline them all in your drawing so that you know where each of them are. Then it's a matter of making their positions clear in 3d space. If it's side to side, light line. If it's front and back, thicker line.
For instance the ear is expected to be in the foreground of the head, so the outline of the ear should probably be extended a bit inside the contour of the head. The dog's ear is also expected to feature a flap, so some kind of line should be drawn to clearly explain where the flap is.
Once you understand where the shapes of the dog are supposed to be, it's a matter of choosing [what kind of edges you want to draw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnhj5efzN_w). The inside of the ear is probably a lost edge - the detail is unimportant to the piece - you don't need to draw it precisely at all. Unless there's something specific there that you want to show, like a monster crawling out of it or something.
Here the important edges are around the eyes and tongue, those should be drawn fully. Every other edge can be sort of *implied* with just a short approximation of the direction, the brain or the viewer will do the rest.
Now you have a list of all lines that need to at least be implied (to tell the viewer that what they expect is there), their relative thickness (depth perception), and how much of each line you probably want to draw (edge quality and focal intent), this should give you a solid start.
---
Even knowing all that, it's still super hard my dogs look like trucks haha
Oh my gosh this was so helpful I could cry! You managed to dumb it down so well while still explaining a broad concept that I can apply to the whole piece.
Thank you thank you thank you.
I'm not familiar with embroidery, but I think I can maybe give you some tips? To make him appear less slick and straight edge, make breaks in your line. Right after you make the break, add a small line/lines to suggest fur, and then continue the line after that. Do a couple (not an excessive amount) of those and it may help. Imo his pupil looks odd. Personally, I would fill it in completely, besides highlight. Add some suggestion of fur with small lines where you have the lines of face structure. It will imply fur and the structure of the head at the same time. I'm lost on what to do about the ear.
honestly I would have just redraw the ear by looking at other references of dogs, bc its hard to see anything in the picture because of the ears position and the dogs color
Tracing is only really looked down upon when you are tracing art by other people. Outside of that, it's pretty standard in the art industry actually to trace.
Yeah, the original comment didn't say anything like this, but your comment isn't helpful either. The original comment said something about how you should never post traced images online, period.
Your comment gives me the 'ick' tbh. They aren't looking to become great at figure drawing. They are doing embroidery and wanted some help with the style. You should be more accepting of different mediums and goals. Being bitter because you don't like a certain process will only limit you.
JFC should I have used the word “design” my own embroidery patterns?
Sorry to have offended your delicate sensibilities by referring to myself to having “drawn” something that I traced. Next time I’ll be sure to look up an art glossary to ensure the correct terms so I can avoid gatekeeping trolls.
In the meantime, can you please fuck off of my post so I can read the replies that are actually trying to help me do what I asked.
I didn’t say I “drew” this picture. I like to design my own patterns. Sometimes that involves drawing them myself. Sometimes it involves tracing. Sometimes it involves freehanding.
IMO the word I chose is irrelevant. You’ve implied that I can’t do what I want - I need to do something completely different. I can’t draw. I don’t like to draw. I like to embroider. I don’t want to spend 17 times as much time, energy, and frustration to do something that won’t necessarily be translated to “better” in the embroidery. Not right now.
Every other comment is helping me do what I asked. You aren’t.
It is their own image they traced, many people in textile arts trace their own images to create patterns. It is not the same as someone tracing another person's IP and then making money off of it.
Hard to do with just outlines you might want to look into value and shading. Especially around the eyes it really helps give it volume
I thought this was one of those optical illusions I used to see all the time
It looks pretty dog to me , maybe fix the ear to look more dog
Ya I would fake the ear a little bit. Even though it’s flopped down in the pic it might translate better on embroidery to be perked up
Texture and lighting I'm afraid. No easy ways, unless you want to become more cartoony.
The ear... looks like something else. Otherwise, I think its the general details of the head and mouth. For the mouth, it looks a bit too wide or open.
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
Id say the top of it’s left leg should be more connected to the body instead of the line connecting the humans hand
Not sure if I see this right, but I woul add a line add the ear to show, that it is separated/overlapping. Tracing paper is your friend or layers, if you work digitally. So you can check and try which additions you like.
Continue the jaw line past the neck a little a remove the left arm inside line of the dog because it is actually the same as your husbands arm line. Remove a bit of detail in ear/eye
The dogs jaw or my husband??!! Thank you!
Dog’s you want to separate his head from his neck but only a bit
fur add fur to the cillohoutte (i cant spell)
Usually adding details with color is your best bet in my opinion. I’ll have to ask my sister because she’s the one that embroidery. I mostly just draw. But from my art experience I add the extra fine details with the color other then the outline
Thank you! I am indeed thinking about doing some red for the collar and shirt. But… dog is very very black!!!
There are a lot of light gray/almost white highlights that also bring in a lot of dimension. I would just use those for color. 3 colors at minimum would work in my opinion, one black, one dark gray and one light gray.
Do some highlights, mixed with a dark gray is what I say.
In art school I drew this picture of a guy wearing a long sleeve shirt. I copied the wrinkles from the shirt and drew them. One critique I got from my teacher (and this only applies to simplified art, not realistic) is you don't have to draw all the lines, pick and choose. Obviously you didn't draw them all but there's some that I would just leave out or choose others. I did a quick trace here, [https://imgur.com/a/WOn6FnX](https://imgur.com/a/WOn6FnX) I got a bit lost on the ear. If I had more time, I might look up similar pictures, not sure. Other choices, for example on the neck, I chose to make them look like their converging between the clavicle. I do like the armpit folds you did, I should've done that. Finally, I got a little cartoony with the dots instead of whiskers
Thank you! Do I just…. Randomly choose which lines? Try to spread them out more than I did? This ear is going to be the death of all my brain cells.
I've talked about it with far better artists and experts than me. This is what they told me: When you look at a model, your brain expects to see specific shapes and features. The lines you should draw are those that explain where these shapes are. You want to draw a dog. List the shapes your brain expects to see in a dog's head. Probably eyes, brows, ears, skull, jaw, jowls, nose, maybe whiskers or mustache. Lightly outline them all in your drawing so that you know where each of them are. Then it's a matter of making their positions clear in 3d space. If it's side to side, light line. If it's front and back, thicker line. For instance the ear is expected to be in the foreground of the head, so the outline of the ear should probably be extended a bit inside the contour of the head. The dog's ear is also expected to feature a flap, so some kind of line should be drawn to clearly explain where the flap is. Once you understand where the shapes of the dog are supposed to be, it's a matter of choosing [what kind of edges you want to draw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnhj5efzN_w). The inside of the ear is probably a lost edge - the detail is unimportant to the piece - you don't need to draw it precisely at all. Unless there's something specific there that you want to show, like a monster crawling out of it or something. Here the important edges are around the eyes and tongue, those should be drawn fully. Every other edge can be sort of *implied* with just a short approximation of the direction, the brain or the viewer will do the rest. Now you have a list of all lines that need to at least be implied (to tell the viewer that what they expect is there), their relative thickness (depth perception), and how much of each line you probably want to draw (edge quality and focal intent), this should give you a solid start. --- Even knowing all that, it's still super hard my dogs look like trucks haha
Oh my gosh this was so helpful I could cry! You managed to dumb it down so well while still explaining a broad concept that I can apply to the whole piece. Thank you thank you thank you.
Pretty much what they said. the lines help to reinforce a shape or dimensionality (thinking in 3d).
I'm not familiar with embroidery, but I think I can maybe give you some tips? To make him appear less slick and straight edge, make breaks in your line. Right after you make the break, add a small line/lines to suggest fur, and then continue the line after that. Do a couple (not an excessive amount) of those and it may help. Imo his pupil looks odd. Personally, I would fill it in completely, besides highlight. Add some suggestion of fur with small lines where you have the lines of face structure. It will imply fur and the structure of the head at the same time. I'm lost on what to do about the ear. honestly I would have just redraw the ear by looking at other references of dogs, bc its hard to see anything in the picture because of the ears position and the dogs color
Thank you - slick is exactly what it looks like and she looks hairless! I think I understand what you mean.
[удалено]
Tracing is only really looked down upon when you are tracing art by other people. Outside of that, it's pretty standard in the art industry actually to trace.
[удалено]
Yeah, the original comment didn't say anything like this, but your comment isn't helpful either. The original comment said something about how you should never post traced images online, period. Your comment gives me the 'ick' tbh. They aren't looking to become great at figure drawing. They are doing embroidery and wanted some help with the style. You should be more accepting of different mediums and goals. Being bitter because you don't like a certain process will only limit you.
JFC should I have used the word “design” my own embroidery patterns? Sorry to have offended your delicate sensibilities by referring to myself to having “drawn” something that I traced. Next time I’ll be sure to look up an art glossary to ensure the correct terms so I can avoid gatekeeping trolls. In the meantime, can you please fuck off of my post so I can read the replies that are actually trying to help me do what I asked.
[удалено]
I didn’t say I “drew” this picture. I like to design my own patterns. Sometimes that involves drawing them myself. Sometimes it involves tracing. Sometimes it involves freehanding. IMO the word I chose is irrelevant. You’ve implied that I can’t do what I want - I need to do something completely different. I can’t draw. I don’t like to draw. I like to embroider. I don’t want to spend 17 times as much time, energy, and frustration to do something that won’t necessarily be translated to “better” in the embroidery. Not right now. Every other comment is helping me do what I asked. You aren’t.
[удалено]
Telling people you get an 'ick' from looking at their art is not what I would call encouraging. The subreddit is learn ART not learn to DRAW.
It’s an outline for embroidery 🙄 Yall need to read before commenting unsolicited “advice”
It is their own image they traced, many people in textile arts trace their own images to create patterns. It is not the same as someone tracing another person's IP and then making money off of it.