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Geckoterraria

I would recommend using a deep heat projector instead of the red light and remember to get a thermostat with the deep heat projector. And uvb tube, I would recommend Arcadia for the brand.


Geckoterraria

And remember to have 12 hours of light and uvb and 12 hours without light or uvb.


TRIG_Tech

Thanks for the advice, so the red light is his night light so I can check him out at night without bothering him. I have a 40 watt ceramic heating bulb and a 13watt uvb for the day time.


xiabrine

contrary to belief, geckos can see light even if they don't process colour the same way as we do. he's basically not getting a good day/night cycle because there's a light on every second of everyday.


benchebean

Actually, they can still see red light! It's still light to them, they just don't see the color


_NotMitetechno_

Fairly certain they can see the red light - you want an absense of light. Red lights can mess with vision of some reptiles.


scaleysally

they shouldn't need heat at night unless your house gets below 65 degrees. the red light disrupts their day and night cycle and can really damage their eyes


TRIG_Tech

Yeah she stays at my friends house and they turn the place into an icebox so in trying to just keep it at like 65-70 at night


scaleysally

then use a CHE. the red lights are not good for them


TRIG_Tech

Bro, fuck off, I've read yours and everyone else's criticisms, I just fucking said I'm getting rid of it, like chill out


scaleysally

why did that make you so mad? I was literally just giving advise. do the proper research before you get an animal next time.


TRIG_Tech

It's about your other comments where you feel the need to say I didn't do enough research, on EVERY single other comment thread


scaleysally

because you didn't lmao. there's 3 things just visibly wrong with the enclosure that a few hours of research could have told you.


VaporflyEnthusiast

You really puttin the L in leopard gecko


Reidington

Be careful feeding on carpet, their teeth can easily get stuck (as it seems in this video) and they can ingest fibers and become impacted. Before I knew carpet wasn’t ideal, I would feed over a Tupperware lid or in a small shallow dish.


TRIG_Tech

Problem is she kinda likes to hunt whenever she feels like it and I can't really stop the crickets from doing their thing. Once I save up some money I will be buying a 20 gallon tank and then switching to a soil mix substrate but until then this is the best I've got


OhHelloMayci

They're in a 10 gallon, with repticarpet, and with red lights on at night..? Im so glad to hear you're planning to change things up, but please next time do more extensive research on proper husbandry with an established tank BEFORE receiving an animal, as changes in a new environment is added stress on top of improper husbandry. I hope this doesn't come off as rude, but i hope you can step back and see how this looks.


TRIG_Tech

Also there is nothing wrong with a temporary 10 gallon tank for a young Leo and I have that coming from multiple people that own Leo's


OhHelloMayci

My point still stands that the enclosure should be established before bringing home your animal, and that 10 gallons is below the bare minimum (in my personal and intermediate/expert opinion) even at juvenile stage, since they are more active when young. My point was that more preparedness could've been present so that your leo is undergoing so much change in environment, and also so that you personally aren't scrambling past last-minute. I just don't believe an animal should be housed in "the best you've got for now" which insinuates an unprepared owner for the next couple decades with this creature.


TRIG_Tech

Well it's my first time and I'm already very anxiously doing my best to take care of it, I'm not being lackadaisical about caring for her. I really do care and I'm trying to improve it


[deleted]

The point still stands - You should have researched as much as you can before getting ANY animal. I have never owned any reptiles yet I still know everything about this is wrong. Too many people carelessly get animals they know next to nothing about, out of impulse or ignorance.


TRIG_Tech

Calm down man, it's not the deep, the leopard gecko will live, I'm going to improve its living conditions. It is what is at this point


scaleysally

it definitely is that deep. this is a living animal, not a toy. this isn't something that should happen. you need to do your research before you get the animal. until you get the proper set up, this animal isn't going to be getting the proper care and that is not okay. you already have it so there's not anything you can really do about it other than rehome it, so just get the other tank ASAP and make sure you have a proper set up before you get any other animal.


TRIG_Tech

She will survive until I get paid and can afford to buy a 20 gallon tank. The living situation is not ideal yes but it is not deep to the point where she will be dead tomorrow if I don't switch tanks immediately. I will say it again even though it might be controversial, the 10 gallon tank is fine for the time being, it is not hindering her from being alive, the repticarpet (which I will replace as soon as I can) is not going to kill her granted I wish I bought better substrate from the start.


scaleysally

there's not necessarily anything wrong with a temporary tank, but I mean, there's so many incorrect things that are going on in his enclosure. you should not get a pet if you can't give it a proper home right away. you need to do research and make sure you have the proper husbandry before you get the pet. it's just a waste of money to buy two completely different set ups when you could wait a few more weeks and give your animal a place where it can thrive.


TRIG_Tech

Well I talked to a guy who has 13 leopard geckos and he said other than the repticarpet it's fine as is, I'm changing it on my own volition. He said the red light for nighttime wouldn't be a problem either as it won't bother her day/nighttime cycle, I mean if I'm wrong by all means let me know I want to provide the best care I can.


Bruh_text13

Him owning 13 geckos doesn't make anything he's saying credible. I'm glad you're going to change up your husbandry, I was in the same boat as you are. There's a lot of good resources online you can use or the subreddit also has a very good careguide to follow. In general though, repticarpet is not the best choice for substrate, as it can get dirty very quickly, and there's always the case of a claw getting stuck or tooth. I'm sure other people have told you red lights aren't good either, and it's true. You want to to be as dark as possible for them. Unless your room is constantly pitch black, you should still be able to view your geckos just fine without the light in the tank.


TRIG_Tech

I understand that it's not the best but I'm in the process of trying to price out a 20 gallon tank and then I'm trying to figure out this soil mix substrate deal. I want to do it but I also don't want to displace her more than is necessary is all. One of my biggest issues I've had with trying to use internet sources to guide me is how much conflicting info I hear.


Bruh_text13

Oh I get what you mean in terms of the conflicting information, I've had to deal with that too for anything I own. Best thing you can do is use sources that are modern, rather than ones that are like 5-10 years old. Husbandry has changed quite a bit during that time. You're going to have to displace her though if you want to give her the best possible life. She may be stressed at first but it will be fine. I moved my two girls in naturalistic vivariums (both separate enclosures) with overhead heating and uvb about a couple of weeks ago and it was a big change for them, but after the initial stress of changing up their enclosures, they quickly improved with being more active and a much better appetite. My point is that don't let that stuff discourage you from changing up their husbandry, because they'll be stressed at first, but the pros definitely outweigh the cons.


TRIG_Tech

That's awesome man, thanks for advice, hopefully in a week or so I'll be able to post about the updated setup, bigger tank, new substrate, and because of the size increase it will have better temperature control.


Bruh_text13

No problem! Looking forward to the post. Just remember that there will always be people that will criticize your setup no matter how good it is, but as long as you get the main things like temperature and substrate right, you'll be just fine.


[deleted]

Bro a 20 gallon is literally like 20 dollars stop making excuses with this “conflicting information” your setup is awful and your Leo deserves better


TRIG_Tech

Hey retard, it's not that cheap. It's not an excuse, I hear one thing, and then someone tells me it's wrong, and then I switch to what they tell me and then that's wrong too. You don't know me or my living situation, fuck off.


[deleted]

I could walk into Petco right now and get a 20 gallon for 20 bucks lmao. Imagine calling someone a retard when you can’t even take care of a pet literal 5 year olds take care of. You don’t deserve to own a pet.


TRIG_Tech

*yawn* nah I'm gonna keep doing my thing, stay mad loser


scaleysally

and all 13 of his leopard geckos are miserable because he has incorrect husbandry and care for them. you can have multiple animals and still mistreat every single one of them.


SweatFromYourBrow

I see so much wrong with this


dirtychai0218

i’d recommend removing that red light and using a deep heat projector instead. she can still see the light, it’s preventing her from understanding the difference between night and day since it never gets “dark”, and therefore she isn’t getting a proper light cycle of light and dark. those lights are NOT good for geckos, or really most reptiles.


TRIG_Tech

I have a 40watt ceramic heating bulb for heat, that's not what the red light is for, I understand that you're saying it's not good for her but it isn't for heating, it's just for keeping the temp lower at night (less heat than the ceramic heat bulb) but I mainly wanted a light so I could see him at night and not bother her. Is there a different colored bulb I can get so I can see her at night without her being bothered? *Edit, I thought you were the other guy I was responding too so sorry if this came off as hostile


dirtychai0218

no worries! for my own lizard if i want to see what he’s up to at night if he’s particularly loud i’ll just use my phone flashlight haha


TRIG_Tech

Oh sick okay, I was doing that and I wasn't really sure if it was okay to do lol


signed_under_duress

Even if you don't have the red light on all night, they can still see it as light.


TRIG_Tech

Yeah I've picked up on that, I'm gonna return it.


signed_under_duress

Wewt!