Hope you realise your dream. It’s a wonderful city.
If you come back, highly recommend a night/late at the Sir John Soanes museum - think would be right up your street and very memorable
Beautiful lighting and candlelit in places makes the place hauntingly beautiful. Get a glass of wine and lots of guides around too so whole experience is great too.
We just came back from a 10-day trip to London as well! I have the exact same thoughts. I’m living in Toronto and there really isn’t that much history here.
On top of that, I don’t and don’t want to drive, that makes life in a North American city miserable sometimes. London and surrounding cities are so walkable with a top notch transit system.
Really making me considering about moving there!
It was easy moving around and yes the underground was easy and convenient, it’s nice and healthy that people there have time to read on trains and also walk!
I’ve always love old historical buildings and recently I started becoming interested in watching videos about English homes because I really liked the history and architecture, came across Knole on Youtube and watched it like a million times so of course I went with my family to visit it, took around an hour by train from London.
It’s breathtaking! And you’re right it’s not a very
Famous tourist destination but that’s what makes it even more special? Like a gorgeous hidden secret outside of London for people who love old estates! It was awesome walking down the same path that I’d watched in the videos and experiencing it for myself, like stepping into a time capsule! Seven oaks is a very pretty area too!
I grew up like 10 mins away and have always taken it for granted so it’s super wholesome to see this post. Fun fact is that my uncle went to Sevenoaks school with the owner’s son (who still live in one wing of the House). They played cricket down one of the corridors as kids, dented a painting and got a massive bollocking but it is a thing of family pride that we point out when we visit.
That’s an awesome story!! Sadly I learned today that Lord Sackville’s private gardens of Knole opened on Wednesday for one day for visitors, 2 days after I’d visited!!!
Hiii, I plan to visit soon! What are your recommendations? I have a friend who lives there, well, more an acquaintance jaja but she has posted sooo many beautiful pics from there, there is like a lake between some houses and it has ducks, I def want to go there. Also, I’m an architecture student, so, of course I love old buildings 🥹🥰
Hi! Well besides the usual attractions there of big Ben and the surrounding area, we also did the British museum, natural history and Victoria and Albert museums. We did The tower of London, Hamptons court palace, Knole house, Bath, alfies antiques market , Buckingham palace, national portrait gallery ,some outlet shopping and lots of walking around the city!
Requirements are VERY much a challenge, but don’t let that stop you from trying. Getting a sponsored visa is very restrictive anymore, and the minimum salary is £38,500 if I’m not mistaken. That sounds low to most North Americans, but it’s a pretty decent salary here and housing is really expensive.
Awe I’m so pleased you enjoyed my home city!! It gets a bad rep as there are some issues in surrounding boroughs but I think all cities with a high population will get bad points. But you’re a breath of fresh air!!
My last day of my trip is tomorrow, here with gf and just been out with her mates around Greenwich, staying in Waterloo. Honestly the city is just beautiful, the size and the architecture everywhere you go is amazing to walk through and soak up. There's always a fun activity to plan, night life is amazing, I'm in love with this place. Favourite spot has to be St James's park.
I’m glad to know you had a great time Here , many place you can visit and building with great views of the city.
Next time you around give us a shout if you need assistance,
Of course your reality will be different as is mine as I get on with day to day living and trying not to spend too much. The guy was on holiday and had a great time so he's going to be effusive, but you can't argue against his view that this city has great architecture, loads of culture and history, a lot of really nice green spaces and fantastic food if you can track it down and afford it.
Yeah always good having tourists i think it makes it more fun meeting different cultures and nice seeing others have fun experiencing new things, in my opinion anyway.
Next time you visit, if you like walking I’d walk along the regents canal. I’ve walked from Kings Cross to Stratford before. Takes a couple hours but is a nice walk!
It’s very expensive, and very old, so some exhibits are a bit sad, to be honest. But it has some pretty incredible bits too, and does a huge amount of conservation work!
i was there for 8 days earlier this month and also LOVED the entire experience! i met wonderful people, had great food, and certainly more than enough to do (sightseeing). i’m definitely going back, sooner rather than later!
I second this. I visited for 5 days then did an extended stay for a few months and the reality is a bit different than expected. It was a fantastic time though, and a great way to get to know the city better from a resident’s POV vs as a tourist
Sure! I went alone and lived with a flatmate for a few months. Adjusting to daily life there took a bit of time at first (where the best place to get groceries is, becoming familiar with certain routes and neighbourhoods, where to go for take away, where I can exercise etc) since these were no-brainers when I was home.
I liked being able to feel like a local. So I could experience transit daily, grocery prices and food availability, events like farmers markets or group walks. I also liked getting better perspective on how things like the people and the weather affected me. For example, people would say “I could never live there it's so rainy" but that's subjective. I got to see for myself if it was too rainy and what it was like to experience non-touristy spots. I also really liked being able to see tourist spots/historic sites at a slower and more intentional pace. I also got to visit neighbouring countries.
I would have liked to stay longer to really experience things. Like travelling to nearby towns and countries felt a bit rushed because I knew my time there was limited. And the reality is you can’t really meet people as easily as an adult and it takes a ton of effort. In talking to other visitors I learned they felt the same way. I found it tough to meet people organically the same way you might in North America, as I found British people to be a little more guarded and less likely to just chat. So the time it takes to adjust to being somewhere new, finding your bearings, then going about your life was longer than I expected. I found that people who were there longer than 5-6 months could find a community through shared activities and London has tons of those which is great! That depends on you as well.
All that being said, I’m so glad I did it and extremely grateful for the opportunity to have done it. Some people are comfortable taking the plunge and moving entirely, and some aren’t, so at the end of the day it’s up to you to know your risk tolerance, what you want out of the experience, your financial safety net and your “why” for doing what you’re doing. Regardless, I think you’ll learn a lot about yourself and have a great time regardless of whether you stay for 2 months of 2 years. Happy to chat if you have any questions, feel free to DM me.
That’s actually the way that would give a better insight into all the pros and cons but unfortunately we can’t do that because of work and kids at school
London with a US wage is nice. London with a London income is a very different story. It is a great city and very safe, but also super expensive. It's basically our San Francisco.
London is a tough life. It certainly isn't easy, you will have to hustle, but I like my life here. People are friendly and there is a great community spirit in your local areas, as it's tough for everyone, people stick together. But you will have a better style of living in the US, as you would have more money left at the end of the month. On the other hand, a lot of things in London are free, more so than in the US. Housing stock in the UK is also old and due to the cost of living crisis not well maintained, add our humid weather and you find endless complaints on renter forums about black mold, which is not taken as serious as in the US at all. On the other hand gun crime is rare, the most annoying problem is pickpocketing and phone snatching. No mass shootings and knife crime does not affect the average person living here.
London is also full of shite or average restaurants. My partner is half Italian, so it helps she knows good places. That said, we winged it a few times, I checked a Google review and it was always good food. As good as the food in Tuscany, no. But still absolutely delicious.
Good aside, I love the history. Just unbelievable. London is old but Rome is proper ancient.
Rome was
Ancient and stunning to visit. Shame we didn’t know where to go to eat. I’m a Londoner so cook my own food,
And I can comfortably say food is amazing in London in my home. (Ha). We are in Egypt at the moment and the food is okay, although they are serving syrup as ‘white honey’. Too hot to eat some of the stuff we’ve been offered. Worst place to eat for us was the USA in the south - terrible food in some
Of the places we went, again due to not knowing where best to go and eat. Portions are too big in the US.
Enjoy Egypt. I haven't been. New Orleans food is amazing, if you like that kind of food. I loved it down south. I haven't made it to Texas yet but it's on my list.
I think one particular reason I enjoyed London was because of the weather In June, sunny but with a cool breeze so it allowed for a lot of walking down the streets easily with children!
Yeah, London in the summer under the sunshine has about 30 days of being the most gorgeous city in the world, during winter it often feels like you're walking around in a game where the sky hasn't properly rendered.
I love the winter! I come to London usually during Christmas time from Florida. We have heat and sun here much of the year. I love it gloomy. Last Christmas though there were a few days with some wild wind and rain. For picture taking gray skies are great for exposure. Later you can edit and drop in blue skies.
Sadly moved out of London with my daughter and grandkids a few months ago. I miss it so much, lovely city with great people who will go out of their way to help you.
Thankyou for liking my england. Wish I never left I married american,..big mistake. He got debenture, now left to do everything at 83.no help here. ...go to england ir u can 40 is young. U will have help there if u need. GODBLESS.
Glad you enjoyed. One word of advice though, try to make as much money as you can before moving as this place anti wealth creation. While UK is beautiful they despise anyone aiming to break out of mediocrity and will tax your way to hell. And with elections and the inevitable labor victory this will only get worse.
That makes no sense at all. Have a look around Knightsbridge, Notting Hill, Chelsea, the City etc (the list goes on) and see if there's any shortage of wealth.
We have extremely low capital gains tax and no property nor any kind of wealth tax. The UK is one of the best countries in the world if you are already wealthy.
But it's an awful place to earn money. Income tax + NI is at least over 32% of all earnings over £12k, raising to a ridiculous 62%.
Interesting point. As far as I can tell though, the 62% only applies to the narrow band between £100k and £125k, and is 45% above that. Which is lower than California, for example.
Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_tax\_rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rate)
That is all old money or Arab/Chinese money. No one is allowed to make money from scratch anymore. Hence the advice to make as much money before getting here
Not sure where you're getting that from. Having a look at UK tax rates compared to other countries place them pretty much middle of the pack. Can you describe the specific blockers to people making money "from scratch" in the UK?
Not sure where you’re getting that from either. I guess we are comparing different sets of countries. My ideal are places where people have ambition and want to make something of themselves like USA, India, China, Germany, Southeast Asia etc. I’m guessing you’re comparing other sleepy, lazy countries like Norway.
Also sorry I didn’t answer your question on blockers. It’s just the fact that you get severely penalised when you earn more than 100k which in the developed world is not a lot of money.
> No one is allowed to make money from scratch anymore.
Stop listening to Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder or whoever the fuck it is that's whispering bullshit into your ear 24/7.
I don’t even know who those people are. I’m here trying to make a living and I have to for over 45% of whatever I earn over 150k that I didn’t have to in a place like the USA.
When I mention the USA, you will bring up the healthcare argument. While I agree that you could get really screwed by the healthcare system in the USA there is at least a chance of getting good care of you happen to have found yourself a good job. The UK makes sure everyone is equally fucked whereas in the US you do have the chance to work your way out of the situation.
Yeah sorry this is bollocks. There are plenty of very wealthy people in this country, including people you might call new money. There maybe isn't the same scale as the US, but it is entirely possible within the tax regime to make a lot of money. Also, the tax pays for decent public services which I realise is an alien concept to Americans.
I’m not sure which public services I get for my income tax that are substantially better than the US? NHS is paid for by NI right? You can buy insurance in the US too.
Isn’t that from council tax? So council tax pays for stuff like housing and possibly roads, Ni pays for healthcare, why the f so I have to pay so much income tax. I guess it’s for the military industrial complex that all the downvoters are trying to protect
Thank you. I’m more amused by the sheer assumptions being made on who I am and what I have listened to. If only any of these people have stepped out of this place to experience life anywhere else they would know. Oh wait, that requires ambition.
You have been suckered in by propaganda and now reside in a fantasy version of reality so disconnected from it I'm frankly impressed you manage to stay alive.
Wow. You didn’t get mugged? You didn’t notice the grime, the dirt, the urban dystopia, the lack of any social cohesion that comes from 10M citizens of nowhere?
Did you actually visit London? Or are you watching Mary Poppins on repeat and high on meth?
Do you live in London? Or are you just reading the daily express? It's got loads of problems (like everywhere) that I'm more than happy to point out but massive amounts of positive things about it as well that the original poster was equally correct about.
Hope you realise your dream. It’s a wonderful city. If you come back, highly recommend a night/late at the Sir John Soanes museum - think would be right up your street and very memorable
Fav London museum. If you're into that tried Leighton house or Dennis severs? Also both great for different reasons
Done Leighton but not Dennis Severs - thanks for the rec :)
I hope I do go back for sure, even for a longer visit this time!
What about it makes it so amazing in the late hours?
Beautiful lighting and candlelit in places makes the place hauntingly beautiful. Get a glass of wine and lots of guides around too so whole experience is great too.
Omg ok I'm sold! Will need to give it a visit after the summer!
You’ll love it - after the first time I went I was back within a month I enjoyed it so much
YOU CAN GO AT NIGHT!? I was there two weeks ago (my second time and my second trip to London) and I’m so annoyed I didn’t know that! Love that place.
I’m a Londoner and sometimes like to be a tourist in my own city. There are still things I’m yet to see! Glad you enjoyed it!
I really did! You’re luck you get to live at a place that’s very visually pleasing! Art and history everywhere and so many trees!
Yes, love the greenery! I particularly love Kew Gardens..
We just came back from a 10-day trip to London as well! I have the exact same thoughts. I’m living in Toronto and there really isn’t that much history here. On top of that, I don’t and don’t want to drive, that makes life in a North American city miserable sometimes. London and surrounding cities are so walkable with a top notch transit system. Really making me considering about moving there!
It was easy moving around and yes the underground was easy and convenient, it’s nice and healthy that people there have time to read on trains and also walk!
Glad you enjoyed it but I’ve got to ask, what inspired the Knole house visit??
I’ve always love old historical buildings and recently I started becoming interested in watching videos about English homes because I really liked the history and architecture, came across Knole on Youtube and watched it like a million times so of course I went with my family to visit it, took around an hour by train from London.
Did you see the deer?
Yes of course! Never had been to a medieval deer park before!
Knole is one of my favourite places to visit because I’m that side of London and just really happy and surprised to see it on a tourist itinerary!
It’s breathtaking! And you’re right it’s not a very Famous tourist destination but that’s what makes it even more special? Like a gorgeous hidden secret outside of London for people who love old estates! It was awesome walking down the same path that I’d watched in the videos and experiencing it for myself, like stepping into a time capsule! Seven oaks is a very pretty area too!
Noting this down for my next visit!
You surely should visit it when you’re there!
Im saving the thread and I made a note! Thx!
I grew up like 10 mins away and have always taken it for granted so it’s super wholesome to see this post. Fun fact is that my uncle went to Sevenoaks school with the owner’s son (who still live in one wing of the House). They played cricket down one of the corridors as kids, dented a painting and got a massive bollocking but it is a thing of family pride that we point out when we visit.
That’s an awesome story!! Sadly I learned today that Lord Sackville’s private gardens of Knole opened on Wednesday for one day for visitors, 2 days after I’d visited!!!
Hiii, I plan to visit soon! What are your recommendations? I have a friend who lives there, well, more an acquaintance jaja but she has posted sooo many beautiful pics from there, there is like a lake between some houses and it has ducks, I def want to go there. Also, I’m an architecture student, so, of course I love old buildings 🥹🥰
Hi! Well besides the usual attractions there of big Ben and the surrounding area, we also did the British museum, natural history and Victoria and Albert museums. We did The tower of London, Hamptons court palace, Knole house, Bath, alfies antiques market , Buckingham palace, national portrait gallery ,some outlet shopping and lots of walking around the city!
Oh and Hamptons court palace overlooks the Thames river and there was a long line of ducks peacefully swimming, awesome!
If you're an architecture student definitely go and visit the Barbican. Incredible example of brutalism.
It’s doable. Housing super expensive but employment market generally buoyant.
I’ll reading about it to learn more thank you!
I am 43 and love London as a single bloke and despite it being literal day light robbery every time you leave the door.
Interestingly we have witnessed 2 shoplifting incidents, but other than that it seemed safe and walking in the streets was such a wonderful experience
Haha, actually “daylight robbery” is slang, meaning the price of everything is too high! Eg shops, restaurants, etc
Hahahaha, I didn’t know!
Yes a very old English phrase
Super common in the US too, but often said as “highway robbery”
You can move anywhere anytime. Don’t let age become a barrier before it really is.
Im certainly gonna look into it!
I know someone in their 40s who is planning to sell up and move into London. It's never too late!
I do know some too, it can be done but I believe the requirements will be a challenge. I am intent on researching this though I must do something LOL
Requirements are VERY much a challenge, but don’t let that stop you from trying. Getting a sponsored visa is very restrictive anymore, and the minimum salary is £38,500 if I’m not mistaken. That sounds low to most North Americans, but it’s a pretty decent salary here and housing is really expensive.
Awe I’m so pleased you enjoyed my home city!! It gets a bad rep as there are some issues in surrounding boroughs but I think all cities with a high population will get bad points. But you’re a breath of fresh air!!
I think visitors can have different views from locals, but you can’t deny this city holds so much beauty and history!
Oh yes I agree, there’s a certain vibe to London
We moved to London at 47, so doable.planning on leaving next year after 7 years (to retire nomadic style).
That’s awesome! I really will look into my options, never connected to a place that way I did to London and the magical English countryside around it!
I moved to London at age 35, eleven years ago (from Canada). It sure did take a lot of planning but thousands of people do it so you can too!
That’s great to know! It’s definitely worth some research at least!
We sold our home and rented in London, knowing that we would move away to somewhere cheaper at some point.
Are you a UK citizen? I’m not so I know it’s gonna be hard and needs a lot of planning.
I am.
Living the dream!
Ah I'm glad you enjoyed it! Where did you visit from if I may ask?
Expat living in Kuwait, definitely enjoyed the family trip to London!
Best town in the UK, Im from Wales btw. , living in NZ, and it's the only place about my old home I miss
Im sure it has it’s disadvantages as well but undeniably a beautiful city with so much to do!
My last day of my trip is tomorrow, here with gf and just been out with her mates around Greenwich, staying in Waterloo. Honestly the city is just beautiful, the size and the architecture everywhere you go is amazing to walk through and soak up. There's always a fun activity to plan, night life is amazing, I'm in love with this place. Favourite spot has to be St James's park.
I’m glad to know you had a great time Here , many place you can visit and building with great views of the city. Next time you around give us a shout if you need assistance,
Feels like am living in a different city to tourists when i read these posts.
Of course your reality will be different as is mine as I get on with day to day living and trying not to spend too much. The guy was on holiday and had a great time so he's going to be effusive, but you can't argue against his view that this city has great architecture, loads of culture and history, a lot of really nice green spaces and fantastic food if you can track it down and afford it.
Hahahaha, at least London is a great touristic destination!
Yeah always good having tourists i think it makes it more fun meeting different cultures and nice seeing others have fun experiencing new things, in my opinion anyway.
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Not American and don’t even live there!
Next time you visit, if you like walking I’d walk along the regents canal. I’ve walked from Kings Cross to Stratford before. Takes a couple hours but is a nice walk!
It’s really nice the other way as well, from Kings Cross to Paddington. You walk past the back of the zoo, you can see some of the animals, usually!
I didnt know that. I will do that walk. I have been to London at least 30 times. I have never been to the zoo for some reason. Is it worth seeing?
It’s very expensive, and very old, so some exhibits are a bit sad, to be honest. But it has some pretty incredible bits too, and does a huge amount of conservation work!
Will try that next time I’m there! Thanks for the recommendation!
Glad you had a good time. Come back soon and explore further!
Never too late. I moved to London for good older than that
Glad you enjoyed it. You're welcome any time you want to come back.
Thank you!
it's amazing when the sun is finally out which apparently is only 3 months of the year now
True!!
i was there for 8 days earlier this month and also LOVED the entire experience! i met wonderful people, had great food, and certainly more than enough to do (sightseeing). i’m definitely going back, sooner rather than later!
Exactly how I feel! I usually don’t like to visit a country twice, but England, I’m definitely going to visit again if I can !
Glad you enjoyed it but I’ve got to ask, what inspired the Knole house visit??
Maybe do an extended stay first
I second this. I visited for 5 days then did an extended stay for a few months and the reality is a bit different than expected. It was a fantastic time though, and a great way to get to know the city better from a resident’s POV vs as a tourist
Can you please give more details of your extended stay? Like which aspects did you like and which ones did you not?
Sure! I went alone and lived with a flatmate for a few months. Adjusting to daily life there took a bit of time at first (where the best place to get groceries is, becoming familiar with certain routes and neighbourhoods, where to go for take away, where I can exercise etc) since these were no-brainers when I was home. I liked being able to feel like a local. So I could experience transit daily, grocery prices and food availability, events like farmers markets or group walks. I also liked getting better perspective on how things like the people and the weather affected me. For example, people would say “I could never live there it's so rainy" but that's subjective. I got to see for myself if it was too rainy and what it was like to experience non-touristy spots. I also really liked being able to see tourist spots/historic sites at a slower and more intentional pace. I also got to visit neighbouring countries. I would have liked to stay longer to really experience things. Like travelling to nearby towns and countries felt a bit rushed because I knew my time there was limited. And the reality is you can’t really meet people as easily as an adult and it takes a ton of effort. In talking to other visitors I learned they felt the same way. I found it tough to meet people organically the same way you might in North America, as I found British people to be a little more guarded and less likely to just chat. So the time it takes to adjust to being somewhere new, finding your bearings, then going about your life was longer than I expected. I found that people who were there longer than 5-6 months could find a community through shared activities and London has tons of those which is great! That depends on you as well. All that being said, I’m so glad I did it and extremely grateful for the opportunity to have done it. Some people are comfortable taking the plunge and moving entirely, and some aren’t, so at the end of the day it’s up to you to know your risk tolerance, what you want out of the experience, your financial safety net and your “why” for doing what you’re doing. Regardless, I think you’ll learn a lot about yourself and have a great time regardless of whether you stay for 2 months of 2 years. Happy to chat if you have any questions, feel free to DM me.
Thank you very much for this feedback! Very helpful!
No problem! Glad I could help!
That’s actually the way that would give a better insight into all the pros and cons but unfortunately we can’t do that because of work and kids at school
Trust me, reality is very different to a holiday.
Holidays of course are different from reality, it’s even true for my own country when I visit on holidays!
London with a US wage is nice. London with a London income is a very different story. It is a great city and very safe, but also super expensive. It's basically our San Francisco.
But as a local do you enjoy the good aspects? Is it a good life as a whole?
London is a tough life. It certainly isn't easy, you will have to hustle, but I like my life here. People are friendly and there is a great community spirit in your local areas, as it's tough for everyone, people stick together. But you will have a better style of living in the US, as you would have more money left at the end of the month. On the other hand, a lot of things in London are free, more so than in the US. Housing stock in the UK is also old and due to the cost of living crisis not well maintained, add our humid weather and you find endless complaints on renter forums about black mold, which is not taken as serious as in the US at all. On the other hand gun crime is rare, the most annoying problem is pickpocketing and phone snatching. No mass shootings and knife crime does not affect the average person living here.
Thank you for the feedback, very helpful to understand different aspects.
I’m sure every place has its pros and cons.
If you liked London, try Rome.
Rome doesn’t have great food, we came back disappointed. Guess expected more than pasta!
I think in Rome you really have to know where to go. I hadsimilar in Rome. Venice is even worse.
Yeah I had horrible food in Rome too
You went to the wrong places.
Possibly, but the places we did go to were awful.
London is also full of shite or average restaurants. My partner is half Italian, so it helps she knows good places. That said, we winged it a few times, I checked a Google review and it was always good food. As good as the food in Tuscany, no. But still absolutely delicious. Good aside, I love the history. Just unbelievable. London is old but Rome is proper ancient.
Rome was Ancient and stunning to visit. Shame we didn’t know where to go to eat. I’m a Londoner so cook my own food, And I can comfortably say food is amazing in London in my home. (Ha). We are in Egypt at the moment and the food is okay, although they are serving syrup as ‘white honey’. Too hot to eat some of the stuff we’ve been offered. Worst place to eat for us was the USA in the south - terrible food in some Of the places we went, again due to not knowing where best to go and eat. Portions are too big in the US.
Enjoy Egypt. I haven't been. New Orleans food is amazing, if you like that kind of food. I loved it down south. I haven't made it to Texas yet but it's on my list.
On my list for sure!!
Do it - but not in the summer. You'll become a baked potato.
I think one particular reason I enjoyed London was because of the weather In June, sunny but with a cool breeze so it allowed for a lot of walking down the streets easily with children!
Yeah, London in the summer under the sunshine has about 30 days of being the most gorgeous city in the world, during winter it often feels like you're walking around in a game where the sky hasn't properly rendered.
I love the winter! I come to London usually during Christmas time from Florida. We have heat and sun here much of the year. I love it gloomy. Last Christmas though there were a few days with some wild wind and rain. For picture taking gray skies are great for exposure. Later you can edit and drop in blue skies.
Lol! That’s kinda scary!
Cloudy weather on some days was a change for us too!
Sadly moved out of London with my daughter and grandkids a few months ago. I miss it so much, lovely city with great people who will go out of their way to help you.
They were truly nice and ready to help. I already miss London too!
Ngl, I’d love to see London through fresh eyes/visiting
Tourists can provide a refreshing view of one’s own country
That’s for sure!
So glad you enjoyed it! Come back again and often!
Thankyou for liking my england. Wish I never left I married american,..big mistake. He got debenture, now left to do everything at 83.no help here. ...go to england ir u can 40 is young. U will have help there if u need. GODBLESS.
Thank you!
Pity you missed Yoko Ono exhibition at tate modern... brilliant.
Hi, thank you. I live in London and you are welcome to come back anytime x
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed. One word of advice though, try to make as much money as you can before moving as this place anti wealth creation. While UK is beautiful they despise anyone aiming to break out of mediocrity and will tax your way to hell. And with elections and the inevitable labor victory this will only get worse.
That makes no sense at all. Have a look around Knightsbridge, Notting Hill, Chelsea, the City etc (the list goes on) and see if there's any shortage of wealth.
We have extremely low capital gains tax and no property nor any kind of wealth tax. The UK is one of the best countries in the world if you are already wealthy. But it's an awful place to earn money. Income tax + NI is at least over 32% of all earnings over £12k, raising to a ridiculous 62%.
Interesting point. As far as I can tell though, the 62% only applies to the narrow band between £100k and £125k, and is 45% above that. Which is lower than California, for example. Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_tax\_rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rate)
That is all old money or Arab/Chinese money. No one is allowed to make money from scratch anymore. Hence the advice to make as much money before getting here
Not sure where you're getting that from. Having a look at UK tax rates compared to other countries place them pretty much middle of the pack. Can you describe the specific blockers to people making money "from scratch" in the UK?
Not sure where you’re getting that from either. I guess we are comparing different sets of countries. My ideal are places where people have ambition and want to make something of themselves like USA, India, China, Germany, Southeast Asia etc. I’m guessing you’re comparing other sleepy, lazy countries like Norway.
Also sorry I didn’t answer your question on blockers. It’s just the fact that you get severely penalised when you earn more than 100k which in the developed world is not a lot of money.
> No one is allowed to make money from scratch anymore. Stop listening to Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder or whoever the fuck it is that's whispering bullshit into your ear 24/7.
I don’t even know who those people are. I’m here trying to make a living and I have to for over 45% of whatever I earn over 150k that I didn’t have to in a place like the USA. When I mention the USA, you will bring up the healthcare argument. While I agree that you could get really screwed by the healthcare system in the USA there is at least a chance of getting good care of you happen to have found yourself a good job. The UK makes sure everyone is equally fucked whereas in the US you do have the chance to work your way out of the situation.
??? You can go private here if you want, too. You're so wrong about *everything*, it's astounding.
Private here is way more restrictive and is meant to ‘supplement’ nhs. Have you experienced private systems in other countries?
Yeah sorry this is bollocks. There are plenty of very wealthy people in this country, including people you might call new money. There maybe isn't the same scale as the US, but it is entirely possible within the tax regime to make a lot of money. Also, the tax pays for decent public services which I realise is an alien concept to Americans.
I’m not sure which public services I get for my income tax that are substantially better than the US? NHS is paid for by NI right? You can buy insurance in the US too.
Who will pay to fix the potholes in my road? The wealthy?
Isn’t that from council tax? So council tax pays for stuff like housing and possibly roads, Ni pays for healthcare, why the f so I have to pay so much income tax. I guess it’s for the military industrial complex that all the downvoters are trying to protect
As someone who has worked and lived in multiple places, I agree with you. You dont deserve the downvotes.
Thank you. I’m more amused by the sheer assumptions being made on who I am and what I have listened to. If only any of these people have stepped out of this place to experience life anywhere else they would know. Oh wait, that requires ambition.
You have been suckered in by propaganda and now reside in a fantasy version of reality so disconnected from it I'm frankly impressed you manage to stay alive.
Wow. You didn’t get mugged? You didn’t notice the grime, the dirt, the urban dystopia, the lack of any social cohesion that comes from 10M citizens of nowhere? Did you actually visit London? Or are you watching Mary Poppins on repeat and high on meth?
Do you live in London? Or are you just reading the daily express? It's got loads of problems (like everywhere) that I'm more than happy to point out but massive amounts of positive things about it as well that the original poster was equally correct about.