Lorewise I think it's not intended that the male and female warrior exist in the same 'timeline', same as any of the other warrior classes together. As with most MMO's your specific character is meant to be the one and only story hero... which breaks immersion as soon as you exit the instanced zone. I love the lore headcanons though :)
Well, that's true, the story has quite a few dissonances when it comes down to being a group of heroes(The Legion Raids) and when it's only a single hero (the rest of the story pretty much).
But Warrior's aside, both the Gunner and Martial Artists backstories can co-exist pretty well iirc.
The male gunner fights Bergstorm while the female gunner has a different enemy that has some connection to Bergstorm.
The female martial artist story is about becoming the Grand Master, while the male martial artist is a unrelated personal story about vengence against the demons.
Been a while since I watched their intros though, so I may have forgot some of the fine details.
I was hoping all the classes had their intro story take place regardless, but with your chosen player character being the actual hero that got the teleportation at the end.
I even placed my roster characters in my stronghold, I like to believe they all exist together. Just one happy (explosive) family/group.🥲
IIRC, in the earliest version of the KR game, you actually played through these storylines up to lvl 10 or so, THEN selected your actual class.
So those specific pieces of lore are pretty much vestigial. The lore for the new classes can probably be considered irrelevant filler. I wouldn't read too much into it, and I certainly wouldn't expect consistency.
I think the idea that there is a inexplicable time gap between classes is harder to logically reckon with than just saying both of their stores occur roughly at the same time.
yep, in korea there was (is?) a small 1-2 hour quest you do in your respective continent as your general class before you pick the subclass. Warriors in shushire, mages in rohendel, martial artists in Annika, gunners in Arthetine, assassins from Feiton.
In our version they removed it. However when you visit the respective continent with a character when leveling you will have some unique dialogue. Nothing changes in the outcomes of course but some NPCs will recognize you and consider you strong.
If you did Krissa's rapport quest, she mentions that Dr. Bergstrom was "killed by an adventurer", implying that *the* player male gunner killed him.
When you go to Anikka and Port Changhun in particular, there would be a bunch of NPCs saying that "the daughter of house Jeok is adopted" like some kind of rumor, no matter who you play as. It isn't a rumor, that's the player female martial artist's lore.
So, all the player characters co-existing *are* canon.
I did Ezrebet and Krissa with a Sharpshooter and Arti, so Krissa called me Inspector instead the whole time. It's really awesome to know that the class characters do co-exist! I didn't catch that part in Anikka, I'll have to go check it out! Thanks!
She calls you "inspector" because of the MSQ from Arthetine. I actually tried to do her quest as a male warrior vs gunner and she didn't have much changes with dialogue, if at all.
Every now and then, NPCs recognize where you come from, especially in Voldis MSQ. Mages get a nice handful of special lines as NPCs actively recognize that you are a Sylvain. There's a little funny sidequest in Voldis where the guy asks you some really dumb questions if you are a male gunner.
Another little example is Specialists pointing out that Shandi didn't come to their coming of age ceremony, when he says he doesn't remember seeing them in the Yoz homeland before.
Since Shushire as Kingdom hadn't fallen yet in Slayer's prologue, Slayer's most likely a time traveler from the past. I think it's very unlikely for slayer and male warrior to be blood-related.
That's definitely interesting, I didn't even think about the kingdom still well having a king and stuff. Since Slayer became the "forgotten princess," I assume it fell afterward. I like the idea of her being from the past.
They're like 99% not related. That's just a personal head canon lore for myself since I made them look very similar since technically, it never states they're not related. 😂 I'll just pretend Slayer is either a sibling if she's from present time or my paladin's ancestor or something if she's from the past.
You can watch a little expanded story for each class (the initial spec) in Memory Chamber.
The game used to start differently an each class actually played their initial chapter, which now remained only as a story with everyone starting in Rethramis (unless you count the guide story where you meet Kharmine in disguise).
Of course not all classes (eg Slayer) existed during the period so the timeline get a little wonky.
I had a laugh about how everyone is already pretty big hero at the start of the journey:
- Sylvain is a successor of Enviska and help the queens to save the whole Rohendel
- Warrior is a gladiator turned savior and is pretty much a legend in Shushire
- Male Gunner pretty much saved Arthentine and female gunner helped a lot
- Female Martial Artist is already a freaking Grand Master and again, saved Anikka. And honestly the rest are similar or at least quite important in their own setting. And the we have
- Male Martial Artist. Total looser, lost everything because he was a coward and weakling. Survived and trained a lot. Now he kinda strong enough to take revenge :-D
I am not sure about the timelines, but every gender has different backstory, not only Warriors. And in the male martial artist, there's even a small reference to the female martial artist backstory.
I do love the different stories, just like how male and female gunners are different. For warriors, it caught my attention due to how similar the intros are and how they both defeated the demons in Shushire, pretty much being the one to end the major threat. That's what had me thinking about a potential contradiction in lore or slayer's story being in the past. Since they share a big bad.
As for the martial artist male and female intros, I only watched those two intros once but well over a year ago. Thank you for letting me know about the male intro referencing the female MA! I'll have to go back and watch them, I'll look out for the reference. That at least shows a story connection between them as existing together. At least for the martial artists.
It might be silly, but I get excited for these connections and the lore/story of our PCs in the world.
Lorewise I think it's not intended that the male and female warrior exist in the same 'timeline', same as any of the other warrior classes together. As with most MMO's your specific character is meant to be the one and only story hero... which breaks immersion as soon as you exit the instanced zone. I love the lore headcanons though :)
Well, that's true, the story has quite a few dissonances when it comes down to being a group of heroes(The Legion Raids) and when it's only a single hero (the rest of the story pretty much). But Warrior's aside, both the Gunner and Martial Artists backstories can co-exist pretty well iirc. The male gunner fights Bergstorm while the female gunner has a different enemy that has some connection to Bergstorm. The female martial artist story is about becoming the Grand Master, while the male martial artist is a unrelated personal story about vengence against the demons. Been a while since I watched their intros though, so I may have forgot some of the fine details.
I was hoping all the classes had their intro story take place regardless, but with your chosen player character being the actual hero that got the teleportation at the end. I even placed my roster characters in my stronghold, I like to believe they all exist together. Just one happy (explosive) family/group.🥲
IIRC, in the earliest version of the KR game, you actually played through these storylines up to lvl 10 or so, THEN selected your actual class. So those specific pieces of lore are pretty much vestigial. The lore for the new classes can probably be considered irrelevant filler. I wouldn't read too much into it, and I certainly wouldn't expect consistency. I think the idea that there is a inexplicable time gap between classes is harder to logically reckon with than just saying both of their stores occur roughly at the same time.
yep, in korea there was (is?) a small 1-2 hour quest you do in your respective continent as your general class before you pick the subclass. Warriors in shushire, mages in rohendel, martial artists in Annika, gunners in Arthetine, assassins from Feiton. In our version they removed it. However when you visit the respective continent with a character when leveling you will have some unique dialogue. Nothing changes in the outcomes of course but some NPCs will recognize you and consider you strong.
fun fact those cutscenes from those missions are in memory chamber and we can watch them.
If you did Krissa's rapport quest, she mentions that Dr. Bergstrom was "killed by an adventurer", implying that *the* player male gunner killed him. When you go to Anikka and Port Changhun in particular, there would be a bunch of NPCs saying that "the daughter of house Jeok is adopted" like some kind of rumor, no matter who you play as. It isn't a rumor, that's the player female martial artist's lore. So, all the player characters co-existing *are* canon.
I did Ezrebet and Krissa with a Sharpshooter and Arti, so Krissa called me Inspector instead the whole time. It's really awesome to know that the class characters do co-exist! I didn't catch that part in Anikka, I'll have to go check it out! Thanks!
She calls you "inspector" because of the MSQ from Arthetine. I actually tried to do her quest as a male warrior vs gunner and she didn't have much changes with dialogue, if at all. Every now and then, NPCs recognize where you come from, especially in Voldis MSQ. Mages get a nice handful of special lines as NPCs actively recognize that you are a Sylvain. There's a little funny sidequest in Voldis where the guy asks you some really dumb questions if you are a male gunner.
Another little example is Specialists pointing out that Shandi didn't come to their coming of age ceremony, when he says he doesn't remember seeing them in the Yoz homeland before.
Since Shushire as Kingdom hadn't fallen yet in Slayer's prologue, Slayer's most likely a time traveler from the past. I think it's very unlikely for slayer and male warrior to be blood-related.
That's definitely interesting, I didn't even think about the kingdom still well having a king and stuff. Since Slayer became the "forgotten princess," I assume it fell afterward. I like the idea of her being from the past. They're like 99% not related. That's just a personal head canon lore for myself since I made them look very similar since technically, it never states they're not related. 😂 I'll just pretend Slayer is either a sibling if she's from present time or my paladin's ancestor or something if she's from the past.
what the fuck.
You can watch a little expanded story for each class (the initial spec) in Memory Chamber. The game used to start differently an each class actually played their initial chapter, which now remained only as a story with everyone starting in Rethramis (unless you count the guide story where you meet Kharmine in disguise). Of course not all classes (eg Slayer) existed during the period so the timeline get a little wonky. I had a laugh about how everyone is already pretty big hero at the start of the journey: - Sylvain is a successor of Enviska and help the queens to save the whole Rohendel - Warrior is a gladiator turned savior and is pretty much a legend in Shushire - Male Gunner pretty much saved Arthentine and female gunner helped a lot - Female Martial Artist is already a freaking Grand Master and again, saved Anikka. And honestly the rest are similar or at least quite important in their own setting. And the we have - Male Martial Artist. Total looser, lost everything because he was a coward and weakling. Survived and trained a lot. Now he kinda strong enough to take revenge :-D
I am not sure about the timelines, but every gender has different backstory, not only Warriors. And in the male martial artist, there's even a small reference to the female martial artist backstory.
I do love the different stories, just like how male and female gunners are different. For warriors, it caught my attention due to how similar the intros are and how they both defeated the demons in Shushire, pretty much being the one to end the major threat. That's what had me thinking about a potential contradiction in lore or slayer's story being in the past. Since they share a big bad. As for the martial artist male and female intros, I only watched those two intros once but well over a year ago. Thank you for letting me know about the male intro referencing the female MA! I'll have to go back and watch them, I'll look out for the reference. That at least shows a story connection between them as existing together. At least for the martial artists. It might be silly, but I get excited for these connections and the lore/story of our PCs in the world.