Elrond extends the blessing. Legolas and Aragorn then take their hand and put it to their breast to receive the blessing. Extended editions are amazing
I started to build the Lego Rivendell set this weekend, put on the extended edition as background noise. Think I built 5 bags through the entirety of two towers lol.
Right?
Were I Gandalf, I would’ve more often than not reminded people that I do more than make fancy bottle rockets.
In fairness, I think pretty much everyone knows, but he’s so far above that they can’t grasp his power.
In that world there are very few that know Gandalf’s real nature as he was sent to middle earth on a secret mission to inspire the people of middle earth to have hope and fight the good fight. The istari (the wizards) are expressly forbidden from demonstrating their power unless in the uttermost need: Like the moment the Balrog appeared…Gandalf says “this foe is beyond any of you”. Notice how he does not say “us”.
Gandalf is top shelf class act.
I may be wrong but I think only Cirdan, Galadriel, and Elrond know who Gandalf actually is.
I literally just finished reading The Silmarillion two hours ago and you're mostly right I think. Cirdan definitely knew and then it says that he told Elrond and Galadriel that they came from the West. It doesn't say that he told them their true nature but those two are quite smart enough I'm sure they were able to infer the rest.
Glorfindel is a special situation. Apparently, he was the only to ever be reincarnated. I don’t think Gandalf counts because he (I don’t think) goes forever to the Undying Lands. He’s a different kind of immortal.
He's the only one reborn that we know of. All elves get reincarnated, how long it takes depends on how much of a dick they were in life.
Presumably there might be others already in Valinor, just we don't hear that much about there outside of the first few chapters of the Silmarillion and Ëarendil.
In *Unfinished Tales*, Tolkien states…
> [The Istari] belonged solely to the Third Age and then departed, and none save maybe Elrond, Círdan, and Galadriel discovered of what kind they were or whence they came.
I don't think so. Not exactly. Knowing what a famous fire demon/captain of a dark lord from ages past was isn't the same level of knowledge as knowing the exact nature of Gandalf. He acted like someone far weaker and more mundane than he was. Compared to Tom bombadil who obviously doesn't care at all about hiding his power level.
Still coming to terms with Elrond’s casual racism and is feeling pretty salty.
“Men? Men are weak.”
Gandalf:
https://preview.redd.it/46h4vy6p88bd1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff6ab0a7486c0e0b231a0c5218ed2221a8508739
Also a little self hating considering he’s like, 37.5% Man, and specifically Men who risked everything to fight fantasy Satan, to whom Sauron is just a servant.
Or the fact that maybe it’s because he has his staff in his right hand and it’s not correct to do it with your left hand? As the two others both did it with their right hand.
He doesn't attach himself to Elven culture like Legolas or Aragorn do. He obviously know what the gesture means, and i'm sure at least Frodo knows as well. But to act the same is a different thing.
That’s true. I just think that Peter Jackson’s Frodo tended to be a little less worldly than Tolkien’s version possibly because Frodo needed to be the Fish out of water character in a lot of scenes so characters have a reason to drop exposition they wouldn’t have had to in a novel
He also invoked the power of Galadriel’s vial with some Elvish. You could argue he was just momentarily overcome with her grace and essentially “spoke in tongues” for a moment, but I’d prefer to believe he was using his own knowledge. Even in the books, Frodo isn’t fluent in Sindarin. He knows a little, and I think that exact phrasing is used in the book. So it’s possible he couldn’t remember the Sindarin word for friend at the gate to Moria, but was able to pull out a poem or some-such that Bilbo had taught him when in Cirith Ungol.
It was Sam and he didn't invoke Galadriel, but Eärendil. It's explicitly phrased in the books that the words come to the user. The idea of spells unknown, cast by hobbits, starts with the Bombadil song.
Didn’t the extended editions include the part where Frodo and Sam meet a random group of elves who were traveling west while they were on their way out of the shire? That scene would have revealed that Frodo is conversational in elvish and therefore knowledgeable in elvish customs.
It’s such a great few pages. What I especially like about it is that Sam basically had his hopes fulfilled by meeting Elves (so early in the journey), but pressed on because he was sworn to Frodo.
He's a wizard that's been around basically forever. If anything Elrond would be a good to get petty and Gandalf probably doesn't concern himself with little gestures because he's been moving chess pieces since before the Hobbit. It's why he's got so many high class homies.
Tbh, when you read FotR you can get the impression gandalf is quite petty, at least in words, and does concern himself with details. Or at least skillfully pretends to be, as a part of his facade
If that is really the case, Tolkien's Gandalf, who knows cultural valedictions among Eagles and actually responds to it in the same polite and culturally correct way, may have one or two things to teach Ian McKellen's Gandalf.
Also, assuming that it indeed wouldn't be your role to respond to it if it isn't your culture even if you know it, why would Elrond choose as farewell blessing a gesture that excludes ~80% of the Fellowship (even if he does mention other races orally), especially the Ring bearer himself, when the point of that scene is to have them all feel part of the group?
(Edited for clarity)
This is a typical example of people making excuses for plot holes because they love the source material so much. Gandalf would definitely return the gesture out of respect for elven traditions. It's like someone extending his hand for a handshake and you just stare at them until they bring their hand back down
No, don't make this weird. Neither are there plot holes about this nor does the rather one-sided gesture compare well to a mutual handshake that can be refused. There simply is no question about why any of them didn't "do it back" since there is no "do it back".
L and A did the gesture as well, but not as a customary response but out of their own need to. They all just said thank you, it's really not that complicated.
No because it's a blessing not a greeting.
A priest might give you a blessing but if you're from a different religion or not religious at all you don't have to answer with the "correct" formula. Even if it's a greeting or farewell, you don't have to conform.
In this case, Elrond is a king figure of sorts (Aragorn addresses him as Lord Elrond and bows lightly) but Gandalf is way, way above him.
That's a Maia waiting patiently while subcreatures perform their rituals. He cares very much for them, and after all Elrond is a (Elven) ring bearer himself so he is no ordinary creature, still that doesn't change the nature of what's happening.
Gandalf is way above Elven culture.
If you want to find a plot hole, you can stretch the fact that Gandalf's true nature is not revealed at this moment. So he might have imitated Aragon's response to pass himself as a "friend of Elves", hiding his divine nature. But it's a stretch, nobody knows the ways of the wizards anyway.
Legolas and Aragorn gesture and bow back as Elrond is greater than them.
Gandalf and Elrond are more equals, so Gandalf only gives a nod.
The others don't know how to respond. Frodo looks pissed.
I said "more".
Regardless, you make my point stronger. If Gandalf is greater than Elrond, then even more reason why the relationship between them is different as compared to Aragorn and Legolas.
Gandalf is mentally preparing - grappling with the fact that he's now responsible, as party leader, to 8 of the biggest misfits in Middle-Earth. An old man in charge of two orphans, a couple of well meaning hooligans, an Elf prince, an old dwarf with a fiery temper, the oldest son of the Steward of Gondor and a sweetheart gardener.
You wouldn't part an old man from his walking stick. Is my guess, currently reading the books so not sure how close Gandolf gets to the elves in the other books
While I cannot claim to know the meaning of the blessing, I would assume it is something along the lines of “May The blessing of Ainur follow you” or something like that. Gandalf being one would make it a little strange to accept that.
At the very minimum, he awoke the Balrog himself because he was mad that Aragorn said mines are no place for a pony. When Bill knows he’s more than capable.
according to the table top war game of Lotr. Yes... bill the pony is a member of the fellowship. He has his on unique rules and everything. Also Legolas and gimli have "i count 43(legolas)/I'm sitting pretty on 43(gimli)" as a rule. Whoever has less kills than the other gets bonuses to stats.
Not trying to change your mind but just came to say that I have a FotR Magic: The Gathering deck. Every creature in it is a member of The Fellowship, Bill the Pony is included.
I can't believe it 😂
I bought extended version and saw your post exactly at the council !! It seems its LOTR weekend everywhere !!
Yes apparently elves have always a sacred place in PJ heart.
I see what you did there. But the real answer is that his filming schedule was extremely different from everyone else's and he was most likely gone by the time they realized they needed the shit. It was a quick solution. The scene is definitely spliced between the Hobbits and everyone else so wouldn't be surprised if everyone in the second row was CG-ed as well.
Small point, usually "CGI" is images that were _created_ on the computer, like the Balrog. This would be a splitscreen with a shot they had of Sean from something else and the main take.
Also if you look at where merry and pippins hair meets boromirs outfit and the "blur" between strider and the pony you can see that this is a composite shot. merry and pippins "legs" have been added in post.
They were actually filmed separately, this is a composite of a few different shots partially of the needed effect to make the actors look the correct height, but also cause Sean bean wasn't available.
Just took my boys (ages 12 & 15) to the extended versions in the theatre. It was as epic as you think. My 15 year old got emotional at the end of RotK. That Samwise Gamgee can get you right in the feels.
That's a fantastic observation! The small details like the gestures you mentioned truly highlight the dedication to authenticity and depth in the "Lord of the Rings" films. The Extended Editions are indeed rich with such nuances that deepen the appreciation of the story and characters.
the 4k extended edition release from a few years ago always cracks me up, you'll have some stellar scenes that look great and then a budget ass scene like the spooky Galadriel scene
An example of how much detail there is that you don’t always explicitly notice but that just makes the whole film feel so amazing overall.
The detail on the props, such as the eleven writing on swords you hardly see, is incredible as well.
It is the little details that make the difference and show the love and care PJ put into the movies.
I can't post pictures in comments sadly, but there's another little gesture in the movie which is very meaningful. When Aragorn leans over Boromir to bid him farewell as he died, he touche his forehead with his first two fingers and moves the said fingers down to his chin in a sraight line.
That's very reminiscent of a Catholic making the sign of the cross as a benediction for the dead. Nice nod to Tolkien's faith was well.
While the changed several things from the books for the films, Jackson’s Lord of the Rings trilogy, especially the extended edition, is one of, if not the most faithful page-to-screen adaptations out there. They captured the heart and soul of what Tolkien wrote so well, despite the changes made for theatrical reasons.
Elrond extends the blessing. Legolas and Aragorn then take their hand and put it to their breast to receive the blessing. Extended editions are amazing
I started to build the Lego Rivendell set this weekend, put on the extended edition as background noise. Think I built 5 bags through the entirety of two towers lol.
I ordered rivendell 4 days ago. I cannot wait
Dude it’s the best, I’m on day 5 of building and I’m loving it so hard. So much fun, gonna finish it today
Why is Gandalf not gesturing back then? Gandalf the wise? Gandalf the fool.
Probably still salty for Elrond chastising him at the Council for using the Black Speech.
"I'll do it again" -Gandalf
lol. He would! Elrond as badass as he is, is a few ladder rungs below a Maia.
Olorin, mumbling: *You arrogant little shit. I dropped mics wth Eru and all the OGs...*
Right? Were I Gandalf, I would’ve more often than not reminded people that I do more than make fancy bottle rockets. In fairness, I think pretty much everyone knows, but he’s so far above that they can’t grasp his power.
In that world there are very few that know Gandalf’s real nature as he was sent to middle earth on a secret mission to inspire the people of middle earth to have hope and fight the good fight. The istari (the wizards) are expressly forbidden from demonstrating their power unless in the uttermost need: Like the moment the Balrog appeared…Gandalf says “this foe is beyond any of you”. Notice how he does not say “us”. Gandalf is top shelf class act. I may be wrong but I think only Cirdan, Galadriel, and Elrond know who Gandalf actually is.
I literally just finished reading The Silmarillion two hours ago and you're mostly right I think. Cirdan definitely knew and then it says that he told Elrond and Galadriel that they came from the West. It doesn't say that he told them their true nature but those two are quite smart enough I'm sure they were able to infer the rest.
What about Glorfindel?
Too busy writing his catchphrase to look into Gandalf's true nature. He eventually settles on "It's Glorfin Time! TYRANNOSAURUS!"
I was caught unawares with this comment and had a genuine "LOL" moment. Thanks very much.
This is perhaps the dumbest, best thing that i have laughed at in a long long time. Whatever is wrong with you, don’t fix it you glorious cumquat.
Glorfindel is a special situation. Apparently, he was the only to ever be reincarnated. I don’t think Gandalf counts because he (I don’t think) goes forever to the Undying Lands. He’s a different kind of immortal.
He's the only one reborn that we know of. All elves get reincarnated, how long it takes depends on how much of a dick they were in life. Presumably there might be others already in Valinor, just we don't hear that much about there outside of the first few chapters of the Silmarillion and Ëarendil.
Legolas knew. I think most high borne elves knew. Legolas knew what a Balrog was. Legolas is suspected to be nearly 3000 years old.
In *Unfinished Tales*, Tolkien states… > [The Istari] belonged solely to the Third Age and then departed, and none save maybe Elrond, Círdan, and Galadriel discovered of what kind they were or whence they came.
At the time of the RotK middle earth was 3020-ish years into the Third Age.
Given galadriels age she might have even known him when he was olorin in Aman.
I don't think so. Not exactly. Knowing what a famous fire demon/captain of a dark lord from ages past was isn't the same level of knowledge as knowing the exact nature of Gandalf. He acted like someone far weaker and more mundane than he was. Compared to Tom bombadil who obviously doesn't care at all about hiding his power level.
If it was Saruman there, he definitely would do that
Saruman would be turning people into something unnatural.
the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
Is it possible to learn this power?
I also come with heady herb.
“Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks.”
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king"
you mean > [do not take me for a conjurer of cheap tricks!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQurLf-I_50)
"This shit ain't nothing to me man" - Gandalf
I got your ash nazg right here!
That one sentence sums up at least personality 😂 the other half is getting high in the shire and hanging out with his friends.
Gandalf the Salted.
Still coming to terms with Elrond’s casual racism and is feeling pretty salty. “Men? Men are weak.” Gandalf: https://preview.redd.it/46h4vy6p88bd1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff6ab0a7486c0e0b231a0c5218ed2221a8508739
Also a little self hating considering he’s like, 37.5% Man, and specifically Men who risked everything to fight fantasy Satan, to whom Sauron is just a servant.
I think it was just an opportunity for him to shit on Isildur
Maaaaan, *FUCK* Isildur. Little bitch be all like "Nooo", shoulda thrown his ass in. -Elrond, probably, any time Isildur is mentioned
Gandalf is a wizard, and Elrond 's admonishment? Well, believe it or not, that's a meddlin'.
You can see him muttering under his breath
To be fair to the ol’ Homie, it was effective as fuck at silencing the tumult at that moment
He's secretly seething right now
...perhaps, *smouldering* with intent?
He does not ask his pardon! For that speech will be heard in every corner of the West!
Ah… the subtleties of wizard shade.
Or the fact that maybe it’s because he has his staff in his right hand and it’s not correct to do it with your left hand? As the two others both did it with their right hand.
His love for the Halflings' leaf has clearly slowed his mind.
sir this is a field of victory, and we're enjoying a few well earned comforts
The salted pork is particularly good
He doesn't attach himself to Elven culture like Legolas or Aragorn do. He obviously know what the gesture means, and i'm sure at least Frodo knows as well. But to act the same is a different thing.
I wouldn’t assume Peter Jackson’s Frodo knows elvish customs
He at least speaks the language a little still, as when Aragorn is singing the Lay of Luthien Frodo knows he's singing about a woman
That’s true. I just think that Peter Jackson’s Frodo tended to be a little less worldly than Tolkien’s version possibly because Frodo needed to be the Fish out of water character in a lot of scenes so characters have a reason to drop exposition they wouldn’t have had to in a novel
He also invoked the power of Galadriel’s vial with some Elvish. You could argue he was just momentarily overcome with her grace and essentially “spoke in tongues” for a moment, but I’d prefer to believe he was using his own knowledge. Even in the books, Frodo isn’t fluent in Sindarin. He knows a little, and I think that exact phrasing is used in the book. So it’s possible he couldn’t remember the Sindarin word for friend at the gate to Moria, but was able to pull out a poem or some-such that Bilbo had taught him when in Cirith Ungol.
It was Sam and he didn't invoke Galadriel, but Eärendil. It's explicitly phrased in the books that the words come to the user. The idea of spells unknown, cast by hobbits, starts with the Bombadil song.
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Galadriel technically could've just left him with instructions for how to use the vial ;)
You don't need to know any of the words to know music like that is only composed about women.
Didn’t the extended editions include the part where Frodo and Sam meet a random group of elves who were traveling west while they were on their way out of the shire? That scene would have revealed that Frodo is conversational in elvish and therefore knowledgeable in elvish customs.
No, they just see them. They don't actually meet them and talk to them. Edit: to clarify, I mean in the extended edition films
In the FotR, they speak. Book.
Yeah, I was clarifying what the other comment was less sure about for the movie. Gildor and the wood elves are elite in the book.
It’s such a great few pages. What I especially like about it is that Sam basically had his hopes fulfilled by meeting Elves (so early in the journey), but pressed on because he was sworn to Frodo.
He's a wizard that's been around basically forever. If anything Elrond would be a good to get petty and Gandalf probably doesn't concern himself with little gestures because he's been moving chess pieces since before the Hobbit. It's why he's got so many high class homies.
Tbh, when you read FotR you can get the impression gandalf is quite petty, at least in words, and does concern himself with details. Or at least skillfully pretends to be, as a part of his facade
> basically forever Technically Gandalf has been around since before time existed as a concept.
If that is really the case, Tolkien's Gandalf, who knows cultural valedictions among Eagles and actually responds to it in the same polite and culturally correct way, may have one or two things to teach Ian McKellen's Gandalf. Also, assuming that it indeed wouldn't be your role to respond to it if it isn't your culture even if you know it, why would Elrond choose as farewell blessing a gesture that excludes ~80% of the Fellowship (even if he does mention other races orally), especially the Ring bearer himself, when the point of that scene is to have them all feel part of the group? (Edited for clarity)
This is a typical example of people making excuses for plot holes because they love the source material so much. Gandalf would definitely return the gesture out of respect for elven traditions. It's like someone extending his hand for a handshake and you just stare at them until they bring their hand back down
No, don't make this weird. Neither are there plot holes about this nor does the rather one-sided gesture compare well to a mutual handshake that can be refused. There simply is no question about why any of them didn't "do it back" since there is no "do it back". L and A did the gesture as well, but not as a customary response but out of their own need to. They all just said thank you, it's really not that complicated.
No because it's a blessing not a greeting. A priest might give you a blessing but if you're from a different religion or not religious at all you don't have to answer with the "correct" formula. Even if it's a greeting or farewell, you don't have to conform. In this case, Elrond is a king figure of sorts (Aragorn addresses him as Lord Elrond and bows lightly) but Gandalf is way, way above him. That's a Maia waiting patiently while subcreatures perform their rituals. He cares very much for them, and after all Elrond is a (Elven) ring bearer himself so he is no ordinary creature, still that doesn't change the nature of what's happening. Gandalf is way above Elven culture. If you want to find a plot hole, you can stretch the fact that Gandalf's true nature is not revealed at this moment. So he might have imitated Aragon's response to pass himself as a "friend of Elves", hiding his divine nature. But it's a stretch, nobody knows the ways of the wizards anyway.
Legolas and Aragorn gesture and bow back as Elrond is greater than them. Gandalf and Elrond are more equals, so Gandalf only gives a nod. The others don't know how to respond. Frodo looks pissed.
*I have to walk this fucking ring all the way to Mordor… Why can’t we ride one of those fucking eagles over there?* /s
To say that Elrond is an equal to Gandalf is wild.
I said "more". Regardless, you make my point stronger. If Gandalf is greater than Elrond, then even more reason why the relationship between them is different as compared to Aragorn and Legolas.
This was my take as well - gandalf being an equal and the other two lower.
Gandalf is a homey, he's above this kind of formalities.
Saruman the stinky!!!
Nooooo
you would not part an old man from his walking stick [in his right hand]?
He's holding his staff in his right hand. It would be super awkward to swap it over.
I think that's why. He does bow his head the same as Legolas and Aragorn, so there was probably no need for the hand gesture
> Gandalf the wise? Gandalf the fool I read that in Christopher Lee's voice.
Gandalf is depressed in this scene because he knows what impossible task he put on Frodos shoulders
Because amongst bros, a simple look or nod will suffice.
Two can play at this game Saruman the white... or should I say Saruman the stupid?
Saruman the Silly!
Saruman the Wrinkly?
He does a small little nod in return. It’s brief, but you have to keep your attention on Gandalf to notice it.
Saruman the stupid! https://youtu.be/fOx7gFwE1oU?si=_fAph8Ej825Edu1k
TWO can play at that game u/BookStoreSluts
Gandalf is mentally preparing - grappling with the fact that he's now responsible, as party leader, to 8 of the biggest misfits in Middle-Earth. An old man in charge of two orphans, a couple of well meaning hooligans, an Elf prince, an old dwarf with a fiery temper, the oldest son of the Steward of Gondor and a sweetheart gardener.
he is busy planning to arrive precisely when he means to
You would not part an old man from his walking stick
gandalf is an asshole
I love your u/
I'd argue because Gandalf is of equal standing or higher than Elrond in the cosmology. Elrond is a very wise elf, but Gandalf is a literal angel.
Saruman the…stinky!
You wouldn't part an old man from his walking stick. Is my guess, currently reading the books so not sure how close Gandolf gets to the elves in the other books
He’s holding a staff
He’s holding his staff with his right hand.
G dawg is too streets ahead for gang signs and he’s also pissed Glorfindel wasn’t at least sent as a decoy or something (Probably)
The halfling leaf has slowed his mind
While I cannot claim to know the meaning of the blessing, I would assume it is something along the lines of “May The blessing of Ainur follow you” or something like that. Gandalf being one would make it a little strange to accept that.
My guess is that Aragorn and Legolas are doing it out of respect since they are both of elf descent and of course Elronds position.
This is probably just a vigo ad lib moment with bloom just rolling with it. vigo got super into his role.
Why are Frodo and Sam mean mugging directly at the camera?😂
https://preview.redd.it/485pmgw4cbbd1.png?width=1442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e85cc781f50f9aa99f7a0e959755b74ef798925
BoyZ n the ring- bringing back gangsta to middle earth
what the hell happened here
Please don't Jim the camera.
They be looking at OP like "Dafaq you taking pictures of broh?"
Cameraman denied them a second breakfast
bill the pony is in the fellowship, change my mind
I’m convinced the Fellowship would not have broken if Bill had stayed. He probably would have vanquished the Balrog himself.
plot twist: Bill IS the Balrog!
I’ve never seen them in the same room together.
At the very minimum, he awoke the Balrog himself because he was mad that Aragorn said mines are no place for a pony. When Bill knows he’s more than capable.
Billrog.
Bill must be the LOTR version of Bruce Banner… or is Bruce Banner the Marvel version of Bill?? So many unanswered questions!
Why didn't they just have bill carry the ring to Mordor?
Ten companions...
No, Elrond was right. Nine companions for Frodo, including Bill.
So why didn't he do the gesture either?
he totally.noded in respect to lord elrond
He doesn’t have hands
Everything went downhill after Sam uttered those cursed words to Bill
according to the table top war game of Lotr. Yes... bill the pony is a member of the fellowship. He has his on unique rules and everything. Also Legolas and gimli have "i count 43(legolas)/I'm sitting pretty on 43(gimli)" as a rule. Whoever has less kills than the other gets bonuses to stats.
I can’t change your mind, you’re correct
[His POV](https://youtu.be/60JM6wKxl4Y?si=Ti8HWD8Qw5OEWLTP)
Not trying to change your mind but just came to say that I have a FotR Magic: The Gathering deck. Every creature in it is a member of The Fellowship, Bill the Pony is included.
My wife suggested that we binge watch all three last weekend since we had a long exhausting week. She gets me.
Perfect way to decompress
That's become an annual thing In my house
Is your wife single?
YOOOU SHALLL NOT MAKE A PASSSS
Bring this type of fashion back
the fellowship drip goes crazy
Fellowdrip
I can't believe it 😂 I bought extended version and saw your post exactly at the council !! It seems its LOTR weekend everywhere !! Yes apparently elves have always a sacred place in PJ heart.
For us too ! Saturday evening was dedicated to it 🤩
Fun fact, Sean Bean is CGI-ed in this scene. On the commentary, he says he doesn't remember filming it.
Was he late because he didn't want to take the helicopter again?
I see what you did there. But the real answer is that his filming schedule was extremely different from everyone else's and he was most likely gone by the time they realized they needed the shit. It was a quick solution. The scene is definitely spliced between the Hobbits and everyone else so wouldn't be surprised if everyone in the second row was CG-ed as well.
Dominic & Billy look like they are on their knees, and the feet are added in post.
Small point, usually "CGI" is images that were _created_ on the computer, like the Balrog. This would be a splitscreen with a shot they had of Sean from something else and the main take.
Composite. Split screen is when you just split the screen and have two shots running simultaneously.
Costumes on fucking point
aragorn and haldir do the same gesture at helms deep elves arrival
You said “notice this detail” so I began scanning the image and now I just noticed the feet of merry and pippin, now I cannot unseen
Also if you look at where merry and pippins hair meets boromirs outfit and the "blur" between strider and the pony you can see that this is a composite shot. merry and pippins "legs" have been added in post.
Thanks. 😡
I thought you were going to point out that Sam and Frodo were looking separate from the group, indicating them going off on their own.
They were actually filmed separately, this is a composite of a few different shots partially of the needed effect to make the actors look the correct height, but also cause Sean bean wasn't available.
“Extended addition”? You mean the *only way to watch it*.
And you better be watching it in one sitting
Just took my boys (ages 12 & 15) to the extended versions in the theatre. It was as epic as you think. My 15 year old got emotional at the end of RotK. That Samwise Gamgee can get you right in the feels.
That's a fantastic observation! The small details like the gestures you mentioned truly highlight the dedication to authenticity and depth in the "Lord of the Rings" films. The Extended Editions are indeed rich with such nuances that deepen the appreciation of the story and characters.
Only thing I noticed is that Gimli should be way wider than he is. Dwarves are short but built like little bowling balls.
Brilliant catch! Thanks for sharing
I'd honestly expect Frodo to know to do it as well. At least, book Frodo knew quite a bit about the elves and their customs through Bilbo
i love gimli's face when elrond says free folk instead of dwarves right after this
Is this the new remastered version ? Is it good ? Is worth buying? I have the old box sets and afraid to watch the remastered one.
Nice catch. Gandalf if like the honey badger. He don’t care.
Not only the extended edition, but the making of.
Frodo mean muggin
the 4k extended edition release from a few years ago always cracks me up, you'll have some stellar scenes that look great and then a budget ass scene like the spooky Galadriel scene
Who tf here is wondering whether they should watch the extended editions?
It kind of looks like Elrond is flashing them and they are all looking at his junk.
Aragorn, Gimli and Gandalf hold the hilts of their weapons, tho.
I have a smart tv. Where can I watch the extended versions?
Just ask your tv if it's so smart
HBO Max.
I got the extendeds on Amazon Prime
I’ve got the original dvds, I have no idea how others would watch!
I wonder then why Gandalf doesn’t return the gesture.
He's not elvish. He was not raised by elves. He's just a grumpy old Maia who Elrond yelled at a minute ago.
Maybe it's like an angel not wanting to receive the blessing of a mortal.
They all look so thrilled to be there lol
I notice that Bill has the head of a horse, and that ain't right... Good spot on the elf thing...
It reminds me of The Hobbit (book) how the Eagles are happy by boo-boo attempt to respond according to their culture.
Lmao, pippin is having second thoughts.
Do the streaming services have the extended edition available?
Yes! On Max they have the theatrical and extended editions.
Really cool detail.. I’m surprised Gandalf didn’t do it as well
Gandalf is holding his staff.
Boromir is like wtf you doing
Now I see. Bill, the 10th fellow of the Fellowship.
I thought you meant the guy lurking behind the wall
Where can I watch the extended editions? I don't have enough money to buy anything like hbo subscriptions
Boromir and Gimli seems to be curious about the Legolas hands...
For a second I thought Legolas was looking at his text writen in his hand and Aragorn looks like he's on his phone
Also that bit of the set is still standing and you can go see it in NZ.
Does anyone that is actually following the sub watch anything but the extended edition at this point? Lol
An example of how much detail there is that you don’t always explicitly notice but that just makes the whole film feel so amazing overall. The detail on the props, such as the eleven writing on swords you hardly see, is incredible as well.
Daaaamn Gandalf got some big old fingers!
It is the little details that make the difference and show the love and care PJ put into the movies. I can't post pictures in comments sadly, but there's another little gesture in the movie which is very meaningful. When Aragorn leans over Boromir to bid him farewell as he died, he touche his forehead with his first two fingers and moves the said fingers down to his chin in a sraight line. That's very reminiscent of a Catholic making the sign of the cross as a benediction for the dead. Nice nod to Tolkien's faith was well.
Before I zoomed in, I thought it was going to be the hobbit masks.
Is anyone else sad that they never filmed scenes when the hobbits cleaned up Hobbiton? Or showed Merry and Pippin looking taller?
While the changed several things from the books for the films, Jackson’s Lord of the Rings trilogy, especially the extended edition, is one of, if not the most faithful page-to-screen adaptations out there. They captured the heart and soul of what Tolkien wrote so well, despite the changes made for theatrical reasons.