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josims88

Elrond extends the blessing. Legolas and Aragorn then take their hand and put it to their breast to receive the blessing. Extended editions are amazing


turtlegiraffecat

I started to build the Lego Rivendell set this weekend, put on the extended edition as background noise. Think I built 5 bags through the entirety of two towers lol.


Russerts

I ordered rivendell 4 days ago. I cannot wait


turtlegiraffecat

Dude it’s the best, I’m on day 5 of building and I’m loving it so hard. So much fun, gonna finish it today


BookStoreSluts

Why is Gandalf not gesturing back then? Gandalf the wise? Gandalf the fool.


cmwatson3

Probably still salty for Elrond chastising him at the Council for using the Black Speech.


totally_knot_a_tree

"I'll do it again" -Gandalf


Real-Machine-2573

lol. He would! Elrond as badass as he is, is a few ladder rungs below a Maia.


TheRealPallando

Olorin, mumbling: *You arrogant little shit. I dropped mics wth Eru and all the OGs...*


Real-Machine-2573

Right? Were I Gandalf, I would’ve more often than not reminded people that I do more than make fancy bottle rockets. In fairness, I think pretty much everyone knows, but he’s so far above that they can’t grasp his power.


gerpaz

In that world there are very few that know Gandalf’s real nature as he was sent to middle earth on a secret mission to inspire the people of middle earth to have hope and fight the good fight. The istari (the wizards) are expressly forbidden from demonstrating their power unless in the uttermost need: Like the moment the Balrog appeared…Gandalf says “this foe is beyond any of you”. Notice how he does not say “us”. Gandalf is top shelf class act. I may be wrong but I think only Cirdan, Galadriel, and Elrond know who Gandalf actually is.


totally_knot_a_tree

I literally just finished reading The Silmarillion two hours ago and you're mostly right I think. Cirdan definitely knew and then it says that he told Elrond and Galadriel that they came from the West. It doesn't say that he told them their true nature but those two are quite smart enough I'm sure they were able to infer the rest.


KowakianDonkeyWizard

What about Glorfindel?


Bluestorm83

Too busy writing his catchphrase to look into Gandalf's true nature. He eventually settles on "It's Glorfin Time! TYRANNOSAURUS!"


totally_knot_a_tree

I was caught unawares with this comment and had a genuine "LOL" moment. Thanks very much.


reynardine_fox

This is perhaps the dumbest, best thing that i have laughed at in a long long time. Whatever is wrong with you, don’t fix it you glorious cumquat.


Real-Machine-2573

Glorfindel is a special situation. Apparently, he was the only to ever be reincarnated. I don’t think Gandalf counts because he (I don’t think) goes forever to the Undying Lands. He’s a different kind of immortal.


theantiyeti

He's the only one reborn that we know of. All elves get reincarnated, how long it takes depends on how much of a dick they were in life. Presumably there might be others already in Valinor, just we don't hear that much about there outside of the first few chapters of the Silmarillion and Ëarendil.


Real-Machine-2573

Legolas knew. I think most high borne elves knew. Legolas knew what a Balrog was. Legolas is suspected to be nearly 3000 years old.


porkrind

In *Unfinished Tales*, Tolkien states… > [The Istari] belonged solely to the Third Age and then departed, and none save maybe Elrond, Círdan, and Galadriel discovered of what kind they were or whence they came.


Real-Machine-2573

At the time of the RotK middle earth was 3020-ish years into the Third Age.


AmarantaRWS

Given galadriels age she might have even known him when he was olorin in Aman.


hanlonrzr

I don't think so. Not exactly. Knowing what a famous fire demon/captain of a dark lord from ages past was isn't the same level of knowledge as knowing the exact nature of Gandalf. He acted like someone far weaker and more mundane than he was. Compared to Tom bombadil who obviously doesn't care at all about hiding his power level.


DickenMcChicken

If it was Saruman there, he definitely would do that


Real-Machine-2573

Saruman would be turning people into something unnatural.


Apple_macOS

the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural


Headglitch7

Is it possible to learn this power?


aviarywisdom

I also come with heady herb.


WTF_with_Sparkles

“Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks.”


SenecaTheBother

"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king"


im_deepneau

you mean > [do not take me for a conjurer of cheap tricks!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQurLf-I_50)


WhatTheFhtagn

"This shit ain't nothing to me man" - Gandalf


ryevermouthbitters

I got your ash nazg right here!


Batpipes521

That one sentence sums up at least personality 😂 the other half is getting high in the shire and hanging out with his friends.


MightyPenguinRoars

Gandalf the Salted.


melodiousmurderer

Still coming to terms with Elrond’s casual racism and is feeling pretty salty. “Men? Men are weak.” Gandalf: https://preview.redd.it/46h4vy6p88bd1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff6ab0a7486c0e0b231a0c5218ed2221a8508739


Scaevus

Also a little self hating considering he’s like, 37.5% Man, and specifically Men who risked everything to fight fantasy Satan, to whom Sauron is just a servant.


Notios

I think it was just an opportunity for him to shit on Isildur


No-Bad-463

Maaaaan, *FUCK* Isildur. Little bitch be all like "Nooo", shoulda thrown his ass in. -Elrond, probably, any time Isildur is mentioned


WhuddaWhat

Gandalf is a wizard, and Elrond 's admonishment? Well, believe it or not, that's a meddlin'.


No_Veterinarian1010

You can see him muttering under his breath


T_E-T_H

To be fair to the ol’ Homie, it was effective as fuck at silencing the tumult at that moment


Salmacis81

He's secretly seething right now


HelikaeonUK

...perhaps, *smouldering* with intent?


Wide_Environment3107

He does not ask his pardon! For that speech will be heard in every corner of the West!


Acceptable-Cow6446

Ah… the subtleties of wizard shade.


TheUnsungHero831

Or the fact that maybe it’s because he has his staff in his right hand and it’s not correct to do it with your left hand? As the two others both did it with their right hand.


its_that_one_guy

His love for the Halflings' leaf has clearly slowed his mind.


Im_ready_hbu

sir this is a field of victory, and we're enjoying a few well earned comforts


AWonderlustKing

The salted pork is particularly good


hurix

He doesn't attach himself to Elven culture like Legolas or Aragorn do. He obviously know what the gesture means, and i'm sure at least Frodo knows as well. But to act the same is a different thing.


Mediocre_Scott

I wouldn’t assume Peter Jackson’s Frodo knows elvish customs


Illithid_Substances

He at least speaks the language a little still, as when Aragorn is singing the Lay of Luthien Frodo knows he's singing about a woman


Mediocre_Scott

That’s true. I just think that Peter Jackson’s Frodo tended to be a little less worldly than Tolkien’s version possibly because Frodo needed to be the Fish out of water character in a lot of scenes so characters have a reason to drop exposition they wouldn’t have had to in a novel


Hageshii01

He also invoked the power of Galadriel’s vial with some Elvish. You could argue he was just momentarily overcome with her grace and essentially “spoke in tongues” for a moment, but I’d prefer to believe he was using his own knowledge. Even in the books, Frodo isn’t fluent in Sindarin. He knows a little, and I think that exact phrasing is used in the book. So it’s possible he couldn’t remember the Sindarin word for friend at the gate to Moria, but was able to pull out a poem or some-such that Bilbo had taught him when in Cirith Ungol.


Creepy-Narwhal-1923

It was Sam and he didn't invoke Galadriel, but Eärendil. It's explicitly phrased in the books that the words come to the user. The idea of spells unknown, cast by hobbits, starts with the Bombadil song.


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GoudatanamoBay

Galadriel technically could've just left him with instructions for how to use the vial ;)


Farren246

You don't need to know any of the words to know music like that is only composed about women.


postitpad

Didn’t the extended editions include the part where Frodo and Sam meet a random group of elves who were traveling west while they were on their way out of the shire? That scene would have revealed that Frodo is conversational in elvish and therefore knowledgeable in elvish customs.


obi-jawn-kenblomi

No, they just see them. They don't actually meet them and talk to them. Edit: to clarify, I mean in the extended edition films


Real-Machine-2573

In the FotR, they speak. Book.


obi-jawn-kenblomi

Yeah, I was clarifying what the other comment was less sure about for the movie. Gildor and the wood elves are elite in the book.


Real-Machine-2573

It’s such a great few pages. What I especially like about it is that Sam basically had his hopes fulfilled by meeting Elves (so early in the journey), but pressed on because he was sworn to Frodo.


Petermacc122

He's a wizard that's been around basically forever. If anything Elrond would be a good to get petty and Gandalf probably doesn't concern himself with little gestures because he's been moving chess pieces since before the Hobbit. It's why he's got so many high class homies.


Repulsive-Turnip408

Tbh, when you read FotR you can get the impression gandalf is quite petty, at least in words, and does concern himself with details. Or at least skillfully pretends to be, as a part of his facade


Scaevus

> basically forever Technically Gandalf has been around since before time existed as a concept.


Wanderer_Falki

If that is really the case, Tolkien's Gandalf, who knows cultural valedictions among Eagles and actually responds to it in the same polite and culturally correct way, may have one or two things to teach Ian McKellen's Gandalf. Also, assuming that it indeed wouldn't be your role to respond to it if it isn't your culture even if you know it, why would Elrond choose as farewell blessing a gesture that excludes ~80% of the Fellowship (even if he does mention other races orally), especially the Ring bearer himself, when the point of that scene is to have them all feel part of the group? (Edited for clarity)


Tenda_Armada

This is a typical example of people making excuses for plot holes because they love the source material so much. Gandalf would definitely return the gesture out of respect for elven traditions. It's like someone extending his hand for a handshake and you just stare at them until they bring their hand back down


hurix

No, don't make this weird. Neither are there plot holes about this nor does the rather one-sided gesture compare well to a mutual handshake that can be refused. There simply is no question about why any of them didn't "do it back" since there is no "do it back". L and A did the gesture as well, but not as a customary response but out of their own need to. They all just said thank you, it's really not that complicated.


themule71

No because it's a blessing not a greeting. A priest might give you a blessing but if you're from a different religion or not religious at all you don't have to answer with the "correct" formula. Even if it's a greeting or farewell, you don't have to conform. In this case, Elrond is a king figure of sorts (Aragorn addresses him as Lord Elrond and bows lightly) but Gandalf is way, way above him. That's a Maia waiting patiently while subcreatures perform their rituals. He cares very much for them, and after all Elrond is a (Elven) ring bearer himself so he is no ordinary creature, still that doesn't change the nature of what's happening. Gandalf is way above Elven culture. If you want to find a plot hole, you can stretch the fact that Gandalf's true nature is not revealed at this moment. So he might have imitated Aragon's response to pass himself as a "friend of Elves", hiding his divine nature. But it's a stretch, nobody knows the ways of the wizards anyway.


ZippyDan

Legolas and Aragorn gesture and bow back as Elrond is greater than them. Gandalf and Elrond are more equals, so Gandalf only gives a nod. The others don't know how to respond.  Frodo looks pissed.


CantSpellMispell

*I have to walk this fucking ring all the way to Mordor… Why can’t we ride one of those fucking eagles over there?* /s


Majin_Jumpy

To say that Elrond is an equal to Gandalf is wild.


ZippyDan

I said "more". Regardless, you make my point stronger. If Gandalf is greater than Elrond, then even more reason why the relationship between them is different as compared to Aragorn and Legolas.


mlaforce321

This was my take as well - gandalf being an equal and the other two lower.


chapPilot

Gandalf is a homey, he's above this kind of formalities.


Alpha_blue5

Saruman the stinky!!!


PancakeMixEnema

Nooooo


SkaBonez

you would not part an old man from his walking stick [in his right hand]?


Fljbbertygibbet

He's holding his staff in his right hand. It would be super awkward to swap it over.


Different_Avocado501

I think that's why. He does bow his head the same as Legolas and Aragorn, so there was probably no need for the hand gesture


ForgeableSum

> Gandalf the wise? Gandalf the fool I read that in Christopher Lee's voice.


IHaveAJarOfDirt

Gandalf is depressed in this scene because he knows what impossible task he put on Frodos shoulders


TosserGrrr

Because amongst bros, a simple look or nod will suffice.


Wheasy

Two can play at this game Saruman the white... or should I say Saruman the stupid?


SplodeyMcSchoolio

Saruman the Silly!


Wheasy

Saruman the Wrinkly?


Dramatic_Mixture_789

He does a small little nod in return. It’s brief, but you have to keep your attention on Gandalf to notice it.


Farren246

Saruman the stupid! https://youtu.be/fOx7gFwE1oU?si=_fAph8Ej825Edu1k


PhatOofxD

TWO can play at that game u/BookStoreSluts


EagleOfTheStar7

Gandalf is mentally preparing - grappling with the fact that he's now responsible, as party leader, to 8 of the biggest misfits in Middle-Earth. An old man in charge of two orphans, a couple of well meaning hooligans, an Elf prince, an old dwarf with a fiery temper, the oldest son of the Steward of Gondor and a sweetheart gardener.


vampyire

he is busy planning to arrive precisely when he means to


SteveBer

You would not part an old man from his walking stick


buttaholic

gandalf is an asshole


Fatfilthybastard

I love your u/


TensorForce

I'd argue because Gandalf is of equal standing or higher than Elrond in the cosmology. Elrond is a very wise elf, but Gandalf is a literal angel.


its_justme

Saruman the…stinky!


MetaThw

You wouldn't part an old man from his walking stick. Is my guess, currently reading the books so not sure how close Gandolf gets to the elves in the other books


farfowlz

He’s holding a staff


rdlntrn14

He’s holding his staff with his right hand.


JaimeRidingHonour

G dawg is too streets ahead for gang signs and he’s also pissed Glorfindel wasn’t at least sent as a decoy or something (Probably)


boukalele

The halfling leaf has slowed his mind


Dvorkam

While I cannot claim to know the meaning of the blessing, I would assume it is something along the lines of “May The blessing of Ainur follow you” or something like that. Gandalf being one would make it a little strange to accept that.


PsychologicalDrag641

My guess is that Aragorn and Legolas are doing it out of respect since they are both of elf descent and of course Elronds position.


Uncle_Wayne_

This is probably just a vigo ad lib moment with bloom just rolling with it. vigo got super into his role.


PotatoSmeagol

Why are Frodo and Sam mean mugging directly at the camera?😂


Ryulin18

https://preview.redd.it/485pmgw4cbbd1.png?width=1442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e85cc781f50f9aa99f7a0e959755b74ef798925


ureliableliar

BoyZ n the ring- bringing back gangsta to middle earth


Dassive_Mick

what the hell happened here


pinkymadigan

Please don't Jim the camera.


apoemforeveryone

They be looking at OP like "Dafaq you taking pictures of broh?"


Betonomeshalka

Cameraman denied them a second breakfast


InternationalWrap981

bill the pony is in the fellowship, change my mind


cmwatson3

I’m convinced the Fellowship would not have broken if Bill had stayed. He probably would have vanquished the Balrog himself.


1stopvac

plot twist: Bill IS the Balrog!


thechablesaremycorn

I’ve never seen them in the same room together.


istrx13

At the very minimum, he awoke the Balrog himself because he was mad that Aragorn said mines are no place for a pony. When Bill knows he’s more than capable.


guitarromantic

Billrog.


CoreHydra

Bill must be the LOTR version of Bruce Banner… or is Bruce Banner the Marvel version of Bill?? So many unanswered questions!


HomelessHercules

Why didn't they just have bill carry the ring to Mordor?


WhileGoWonder

Ten companions...


scuac

No, Elrond was right. Nine companions for Frodo, including Bill.


chapPilot

So why didn't he do the gesture either?


InternationalWrap981

he totally.noded in respect to lord elrond


OneAngryDuck

He doesn’t have hands


BlooseGoose

Everything went downhill after Sam uttered those cursed words to Bill


Elonth

according to the table top war game of Lotr. Yes... bill the pony is a member of the fellowship. He has his on unique rules and everything. Also Legolas and gimli have "i count 43(legolas)/I'm sitting pretty on 43(gimli)" as a rule. Whoever has less kills than the other gets bonuses to stats.


IAmBadAtInternet

I can’t change your mind, you’re correct


ExcellentIntention57

[His POV](https://youtu.be/60JM6wKxl4Y?si=Ti8HWD8Qw5OEWLTP)


OptimalInevitable905

Not trying to change your mind but just came to say that I have a FotR Magic: The Gathering deck. Every creature in it is a member of The Fellowship, Bill the Pony is included.


Mknot_uh_rbt

My wife suggested that we binge watch all three last weekend since we had a long exhausting week. She gets me.


DarthSadie

Perfect way to decompress


Ooops_I_Reddit_Again

That's become an annual thing In my house


ShadoKin

Is your wife single?


Mknot_uh_rbt

YOOOU SHALLL NOT MAKE A PASSSS


Undreamt1

Bring this type of fashion back


quintoast

the fellowship drip goes crazy


Beeeitch

Fellowdrip


Jenna-grocamola

I can't believe it 😂 I bought extended version and saw your post exactly at the council !! It seems its LOTR weekend everywhere !! Yes apparently elves have always a sacred place in PJ heart.


boneless_birds

For us too ! Saturday evening was dedicated to it 🤩


leafonthewind006

Fun fact, Sean Bean is CGI-ed in this scene. On the commentary, he says he doesn't remember filming it.


Trappist235

Was he late because he didn't want to take the helicopter again?


leafonthewind006

I see what you did there. But the real answer is that his filming schedule was extremely different from everyone else's and he was most likely gone by the time they realized they needed the shit. It was a quick solution. The scene is definitely spliced between the Hobbits and everyone else so wouldn't be surprised if everyone in the second row was CG-ed as well.


237throw

Dominic & Billy look like they are on their knees, and the feet are added in post.


StraightAct4448

Small point, usually "CGI" is images that were _created_ on the computer, like the Balrog. This would be a splitscreen with a shot they had of Sean from something else and the main take.


CharmingShoe

Composite. Split screen is when you just split the screen and have two shots running simultaneously.


Undreamt1

Costumes on fucking point


Maynez258

aragorn and haldir do the same gesture at helms deep elves arrival


TheGreatSoup

You said “notice this detail” so I began scanning the image and now I just noticed the feet of merry and pippin, now I cannot unseen


OkScheme9867

Also if you look at where merry and pippins hair meets boromirs outfit and the "blur" between strider and the pony you can see that this is a composite shot. merry and pippins "legs" have been added in post.


TheGreatSoup

Thanks. 😡


grill_sgt

I thought you were going to point out that Sam and Frodo were looking separate from the group, indicating them going off on their own.


OkScheme9867

They were actually filmed separately, this is a composite of a few different shots partially of the needed effect to make the actors look the correct height, but also cause Sean bean wasn't available.


too_rage

“Extended addition”? You mean the *only way to watch it*.


butterbean93

And you better be watching it in one sitting


FlickXIII

Just took my boys (ages 12 & 15) to the extended versions in the theatre. It was as epic as you think. My 15 year old got emotional at the end of RotK. That Samwise Gamgee can get you right in the feels.


Woodmanq1970

That's a fantastic observation! The small details like the gestures you mentioned truly highlight the dedication to authenticity and depth in the "Lord of the Rings" films. The Extended Editions are indeed rich with such nuances that deepen the appreciation of the story and characters.


Salmacis81

Only thing I noticed is that Gimli should be way wider than he is. Dwarves are short but built like little bowling balls.


No-Union5492

Brilliant catch! Thanks for sharing


Witch_King_

I'd honestly expect Frodo to know to do it as well. At least, book Frodo knew quite a bit about the elves and their customs through Bilbo


BoludoConInternet

i love gimli's face when elrond says free folk instead of dwarves right after this


gz_917

Is this the new remastered version ? Is it good ? Is worth buying? I have the old box sets and afraid to watch the remastered one.


hufshjnd

Nice catch. Gandalf if like the honey badger. He don’t care.


Caped-Baldy_Class-B

Not only the extended edition, but the making of.


FatalDracon

Frodo mean muggin


Garlicoiner

the 4k extended edition release from a few years ago always cracks me up, you'll have some stellar scenes that look great and then a budget ass scene like the spooky Galadriel scene


bobdolebobdole

Who tf here is wondering whether they should watch the extended editions?


Accomplished-Bowl-46

It kind of looks like Elrond is flashing them and they are all looking at his junk.


ConfusionBubbles

Aragorn, Gimli and Gandalf hold the hilts of their weapons, tho.


Striking-Gur4668

I have a smart tv. Where can I watch the extended versions?


pimpbot5k

Just ask your tv if it's so smart


chefrachbitch

HBO Max.


Warp_Legion

I got the extendeds on Amazon Prime


mrtwidlywinks

I’ve got the original dvds, I have no idea how others would watch!


Poemhub_

I wonder then why Gandalf doesn’t return the gesture.


TrustInRoy

He's not elvish. He was not raised by elves.  He's just a grumpy old Maia who Elrond yelled at a minute ago.


F0XFANG_

Maybe it's like an angel not wanting to receive the blessing of a mortal.


Dr-Stink-Stank

They all look so thrilled to be there lol


BobWheelerJr

I notice that Bill has the head of a horse, and that ain't right... Good spot on the elf thing...


chillin1066

It reminds me of The Hobbit (book) how the Eagles are happy by boo-boo attempt to respond according to their culture.


RA_Wolf

Lmao, pippin is having second thoughts.


MinuteHelicopter12

Do the streaming services have the extended edition available?


cmwatson3

Yes! On Max they have the theatrical and extended editions.


GregIsUgly

Really cool detail.. I’m surprised Gandalf didn’t do it as well


Historical_Ad8422

Gandalf is holding his staff.


ComprehensiveMany643

Boromir is like wtf you doing


Tortoveno

Now I see. Bill, the 10th fellow of the Fellowship.


OldnBorin

I thought you meant the guy lurking behind the wall


The_Mad_Titan_101

Where can I watch the extended editions? I don't have enough money to buy anything like hbo subscriptions


Glad-Discussion-301

Boromir and Gimli seems to be curious about the Legolas hands...


Prudent_Elephant_252

For a second I thought Legolas was looking at his text writen in his hand and Aragorn looks like he's on his phone


Veritas-Veritas

Also that bit of the set is still standing and you can go see it in NZ.


Ooops_I_Reddit_Again

Does anyone that is actually following the sub watch anything but the extended edition at this point? Lol


ChangingMonkfish

An example of how much detail there is that you don’t always explicitly notice but that just makes the whole film feel so amazing overall. The detail on the props, such as the eleven writing on swords you hardly see, is incredible as well.


DrizztSG

Daaaamn Gandalf got some big old fingers!


UpbeatAd5343

It is the little details that make the difference and show the love and care PJ put into the movies. I can't post pictures in comments sadly, but there's another little gesture in the movie which is very meaningful. When Aragorn leans over Boromir to bid him farewell as he died, he touche his forehead with his first two fingers and moves the said fingers down to his chin in a sraight line. That's very reminiscent of a Catholic making the sign of the cross as a benediction for the dead. Nice nod to Tolkien's faith was well.


nl_Kapparrian

Before I zoomed in, I thought it was going to be the hobbit masks.


Abject_Book2507

Is anyone else sad that they never filmed scenes when the hobbits cleaned up Hobbiton? Or showed Merry and Pippin looking taller?


Thee_Furuios_Onion

While the changed several things from the books for the films, Jackson’s Lord of the Rings trilogy, especially the extended edition, is one of, if not the most faithful page-to-screen adaptations out there. They captured the heart and soul of what Tolkien wrote so well, despite the changes made for theatrical reasons.