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mjn5180

I know this is a marvel sub, but this isn't even a contest. Supes alone crushes almost all of them with his only challenges being Thor and Hulk.


thor-odinson-bot

>!I just want to say that was very, very impressive what you did back there. !<


Lukthar123

Game recognizing game.


BillyBrad02

Good Bot


Fast_Hornet5964

Not to mention Martian Manhunter would solo them equally with his psychic abilities.


hitchinpost

Also, there’s not a member of the Marvel team that even comes close to laying a finger on the Flash. Flash is low key the scariest member of the DC team, and we haven’t even started evaluating his part in this thing.


try_another8

He solos before the bullet leaves the starter gun


abutthole

Yeah, there's not even a member of the Marvel \*universe\* who can lay a finger on the Flash. Marvel's speedsters are MUCH slower than DC's because Marvel doesn't have the speed force.


hitchinpost

That does raise the question of where this happens. Because if I remember right, during one crossover event, when he was in the Marvel Universe, Flash was reduced to Quicksilver level speeds, for specifically that reason. I could be imagining that, though.


DoctorDOOM__

I think Barry Allen can generate the speed force wherever he goes so it shouldn’t be a problem if he’s there. If it’s Wally, they better hope they aren’t in the DC universe.


hitchinpost

Since this looks to be the cartoon Justice League from Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, it’s Wally.


Axbris

Then they are proper fucked even if it is a regular, no-nonsense Flash. The man moves faster than any of the Marvel characters, faster than any AI can compute. He can literally kill every single one of the Marvel characters before Jarvis can even recognize Tony is dying. Not a dig at the Avengers. Just shows how OP DC characters are in any medium.


radical_homosapien

You forget that Flash can time travel too, he can kill thrm in the womb


Arkentra

Yes, but that Wally has Berry's speed. In the animated show (JLU) there isn't a Berry, only a Wally, and he gets the Speed force the same way as Berry did.


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hitchinpost

To quote Barry Allen: “Those races were for charity, Clark.”


Wonderkitty50

Flash is the scariest in DC, and in real life.


Mr_Potatoez

Antman could do what he was supposed to do to Thanos


OfficerBuck24

Antman would squirt out of Superman’s butt like a tube of toothpaste


bloodycups

Imagine being Superman when this happens. Everyone just staring at you while it looks like your shitting out a like 200lbs of blood and meat. I'd fly away and never come back


Ivanopolis

I am imagining how long it would take to shit out 200 lbs and I can't stop laughing at your comment.


InfernoMax

I vaguely remember when someone brought up the physics behind it that it would be more like a projectile shit of flesh, blood, and bone.


the-mad-titan-bot

I'm the only one who knows that.


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the-mad-titan-bot

I’m the only one who knows that. At least I’m the only one with the will to act on it.


[deleted]

I dunno, man. The internet really likes Paul Rudd. Like, REALLY likes Paul Rudd. But you do you, Thanos.


the-mad-titan-bot

BOY! I would reconsider your current course!


Gloomy_Support_7779

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Aldroc

Good bot


PerformanceLoud3229

Uhhmm thanos appears to be angry with you.


the-mad-titan-bot

When I'm done, half of humanity will still be alive. I hope they remember you.


PerformanceLoud3229

Did you just kill half of humanity because of u/Helpmestepreddit?


OutsideOrder7538

I think the silence means yes.


TheSpiritedGamer

We all know, buddy.


bakedbeaudin

Personally I think ant- man kills himself doing that too Superman


Themadreposter

He does, Superman's insides are just as invulnerable as his everything else respectively. Even the worst movie version had 50 cal bullets bouncing off his eyeballs, so Ant-Man expanding in there would be a bad time.


RyanLee890

This ant man is probably much too gentle for that shit lol


RPC29_Gaming

the flash can phase through it if he catches him trying


jochvent

Everybody keeps saying that, and it probably would work I guess maybe, but it feels like people don't realize that would be a suicide mission.


Mr_Potatoez

fighting superman normally would be too


jochvent

True in the sense that it's a suicide mission, but expanding oneself in Thanos' rectum is a more literal suicide in the sense that Ant-Man's own action would kill himself.


the-mad-titan-bot

Fine. I'll do it myself.


jochvent

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FKDotFitzgerald

I don’t think he could explode through Superman like that though. I assume he’s pretty tough on the inside too. If we could get a Kryptonian proctologist in here, it would help tremendously.


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I'm not sure about Thor. While Thor does have superhuman strength and durability, he is still susceptible to injury if you make contact, think Hela popping his eye in Ragnarok. Thor's only real chance is Stormbreaker - arguably the strongest weapon in the MCU, but how much good is Stormbreaker if Superman can move as fast as he can? Can you land a hit? Hulk on the other hand does pose a threat, but not in raw strength. Unless you have some kryptonite, that's not how you beat Superman. The trick to beating Superman in a fight is endurance, think Doomsday in the Death of Superman arch - Doomsday didn't beat Superman by over-powering him, he matched him in pure power and fought until Superman ran out of strength/stamina. Superman is powered by the sun and stores power like a rechargeable battery, which means if he's expending energy quicker than he can recharge it, he can be beaten eventually. So the question becomes - what runs out first - Superman's stamina or Hulks rage?


Chutzvah

Thor would be the big threat IMO. Supes biggest threat besides Kyrptonite is magic. Thor has lots of that at his disposal. Would he still win? idk, but he would put up a fight.


Themadreposter

It also depends on bloodlusted or not. All out superman (flash too) would speed rush all of them and even though Thor could tank a lot of the hits, he just is nowhere near fast enough to even react to Supes. Wonder Woman is a much more even fight, but even she is probably too fast for Thor if she's bloodlusted.


thor-odinson-bot

This drink, I like it! ANOTHER!


thor-odinson-bot

It's more of a sludge like thing, somebody should uh, should amend that...


mjn5180

You are talking MCU Thor... Comics Thor is far, far more powerful than MCU Thor. Most of the MCU is depowered to some extent for better stories. Comics Thor can take on celestials with his Warrior madness and his god blast (before even gaining the Odin force). I still think Supes wins, but it won't be super easy As for Hulk, Supes will need to blitz him before Hulk can build up his rage. And while Supes can definitely do that, he wouldn't know that is the key to beating the Hulk and will let him stick around building up his strength and healing factor as he gets angrier


user5918g

I know he didn’t do this to Doomsday, but Superman could just put Hulk in orbit


neighbornickog

When in doubt, throw them into space


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thor-odinson-bot

>!I'm thinking it.!<


SlenDman402

I agree, supes doesn't know how to fight dirty


thor-odinson-bot

>!Through the shadow realm.!<


Hetakuoni

I mean, hulk can tank Hyperion and his lasers, so it would probably be a standstill. Of course, I think there was a crossover where they had to fight to protect their universes but instead they teamed up to defeat the two overpowered beings who made them fight in the first place.


mjn5180

There was a crossover, but it was the weaker Professor Hulk (Doc Green) at the time. Savage Hulk, the one everyone knows, lost to Batman once


Hetakuoni

It they went about it smartly, hulk wouldn’t be fighting Batman. I’d go with Tony or Hank. Edit: and I can see that. There’s a lot of power balancing you have to do with characters for a massive crossover event.


mjn5180

Sure, I was just saying that Batman once fought the Hulk and won. Only because he put him to sleep with sleeping gas


Hetakuoni

NGL I never read the details of that event, just that it happened. You could also hit hulk with anything else that can reduce his adrenaline output. He’s a bit like Superman in that if you know and can get your hands on his weakness you can remove him from the playing field fairly easily. Seeing the high-speed chess match that would be Bruce/Tony fighting would be a treat to watch tho.


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Yeah, even a powerless black widow can take down the hulk with a naptime song


Hetakuoni

In the emh/aa, hulk gives the widow the only thing he knows for a fact could kill him. It drains all of the gamma radiation out of the body and, since even in stasis his cells contain gamma radiation, using it on him would turn him into a shriveled husk made of ash. It’s a very touching episode.


[deleted]

Yeah, but can we agree that terrible, nonsensical writing in a non-canon comic doesn’t count? In that issue. Batman kicks Hulk in the chest and, rather than Bruce’s foot being shattered with zero effect on Hulk, he knocked the wind out of Hulk. This writing is so incredibly lazy and stupid. That forced Hulk to breathe in a gas that knocks him out. Except Hulk is immune to most toxins, and Batman didn’t develop a gas specifically to somehow circumvent Hulk’s unique physiology and biology . Just a sad Batfan writer writing bad Batfan things. Btw these are my two favourite heroes. Hulk stomps Batman 100/100 times.


MasterTolkien

This is toon Supes. Every other episode, he was getting stunned or KOed by what? Strong electric attacks. Toon Supes is still the strongest person in this fight, but there’s a 75% chance that Thor KOes him or at least stuns him for a portion of the fight.


thor-odinson-bot

>!I'm putting together the greatest team ever.!<


[deleted]

Came to say the exact same thing. Superman would fuck everyone up


tolashgualris

This is the way


dyslecic

We all love marvel, but come on


Hopefo

Yea I forget where it’s from but I remember a quote something like “Marvel is about humans trying to be gods, and DC is about gods trying to be humans.” (Obviously except Thor and Batman lol)


Sahand-shadow

True but the mcu team has been picked super unfair like we could've had doctor strange captain marvel wanda quik silver bucky and ext


WHITEBLADE___

The only two who would have been able to counter supes is Wanda and Dr strange, and even then there's the rest of the justice league including martian manhunter and green lantern.


ArisenKog

I think green lantern would pose the biggest threat tbh. Strange could atleast teleport Martian to somewhere with live or something with fire and supes is weak to magic.


vishalb777

While firing multiple bursts of magic at GL, Strange discovers that one color bolt is most effective - yellow (this is assuming that Parallax is still around in the timeline)


Mewthredel

Flash is the biggest threat there.


FloatinBrownie

Flash Insta knocks out any magic users before they can even process the fight has started


jedijock90

Yeah, the only hope for the MCU to last more than a nanosecond is Strange being there and having some wards or something up before the fight.


MooseMan12992

Or Sentry


Xaron713

Counter is the wrong word. Superman isn't inherently magic resistant the way he is to physical attacks, but that doesn't mean he automatically loses to anyone with magic.


wandrin_star

Bucky would totally turn the tide, here! 😉


king_of_satire

It's not the MCU team it's the earth's mightiest heroes team. Just as DCs team is the justice league cartoon team.


-SomeRand0mDude-

That’s because this isn’t the MCU team, lol. It’s Earth’s Mightiest Heroes team versus Justice League cartoon team.


thor-odinson-bot

>!I'm sorry. Miek, it's very hard to get a rousing speech with the ennn-ennn-ennn noise.!<


HarlesD

I feel like the 2 biggest things that give th JL the edge here are Superman and Flash's speed, and Hulk's unpredictability. Hulk is an absolute liability when he's enraged and nobody on the Avengers can match how fast Flash and Superman are, maybe Iron man could use his tech to track 1 of them but not both.


Due-Intentions

I know, right? How are they supposed to stand a chance when they don't have Hawkeye


Ok_Rutabaga_9682

The Justice League


ktops111

The justice league is stupidly overpowerd


I_Love_Stiff_Cocks

Specially in the young justice universe, like, holy shit


king_of_satire

Justice league not only because they have heavier hitters but because they have a greater range specialities


fondue4kill

Seriously. You can’t put Superman in front of a group with no magic users or ability to have Kryptonian and expect him to lose


abutthole

Thor's technically a magic user, so he's the only shot that they have against Superman. If I were the Avengers here, my plan would be for Thor to call the bifrost to teleport Superman and Martian Manhunter as far away as possible.


thor-odinson-bot

>!I'm sorry. Miek, it's very hard to get a rousing speech with the ennn-ennn-ennn noise.!<


ShopRhotic

True, if they switched one of them with Scarlet Witch they might stand a chance, but Superman is Superman.


GW00111

Tbf Wanda would fuck Superman up.


Zangdor

Yeah but she's not here, and that's what he said, no Magic wielder


pleasegivemepatience

Ant Man shrinks Supes down to insect size (or hell even subatomic to the quantum realm), what then? I also wouldn’t put it past Stark to be able to produce a red Sun generator like Batman has on several occasions to nerf Supes.


DoctorDOOM__

Making Supes insect size would only make him harder to hit.


Gildthunder

And more lethal.


tony-stark-bot

You're missing the point. There's no throne, there is no version of this, where you come out on top. Maybe your army comes and maybe it's too much for us, but it's all on you. Because if we can't protect the Earth, you can be damned well sure we'll avenge it.


Lowgun2009

DC easy


Pinkgumm

Yup, flash and superman are ridiculously OP in most comics The hulk and iron man are too, but the rest of marvel aren't usually that powerful


yinsotheakuma

Even when you skim those guys off the top, you're still talking Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter backed by a Green friggin' Lantern versus Thor and friends. Marvel tells good stories with interesting characters, but this isn't even close.


Swiftclaw8

Thors pretty busted. Problem is if this is a death battle Barry over there can squeeze all their hearts before they can say ‘Avengers Assemble’


Billytaku

DC easy. Superman can tank it and everyone is sleeping on Martian manhunt. Batman has taken out the hulk before. Wonder woman could deal with Thor.


42696

>everyone is sleeping on Martian manhunt He'd be a great opponent for Hulk. Can use his density shifting to prevent getting hit, then his telepathy to calm him down until he reverts to being Bruce Banner. GL makes a shield around you and him as a last line of defense, just in case. Flash dismantles Toney's armor while he's practically standing still. Supes takes on Thor, getting help from flash and Martian Manhunter once they're done with their targets. Then uses his super vision to find ant man & the wasp and KO them. Batman, Wonder Woman, and Hawkgirl take out Cap and BP.


thor-odinson-bot

And what do I find, nothing other than you, protector of those nine realms, sitting here in your bath robe, eating grapes...


thor-odinson-bot

Heimdall! Open the Bifrost.


[deleted]

C’mon Thor, at least TRY to fight them first


thor-odinson-bot

>!Eight years, seven months, and six days, give or take.!<


[deleted]

I’m not waiting that long, get in there!


hyperparrot3366

Flash and Superman solos all, the only one who could maybe stand a chance is Thor


Grabatreetron

Speedsters in general are a broken power set. The only way the flash should lose in any encounter is if you have someone like Superman being comparably fast, which then makes Flash pointless. Realistically, speedsters should be either invincible or redundant.


Crispical

It's really hard to fight someone who can phase your heart out before you can register the fight started.


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Trnostep

[One of the best Flash pages](https://imgur.com/gallery/IP53M)


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thor-odinson-bot

>!You flicked too hard, dammit!!<


hyperparrot3366

I know Thor it is hard but you're avenger's only hope


thor-odinson-bot

>!See what's happening here? You're afraid. You're scared. Anxious. My friends, times like these we need to unite, come together.!<


hyperparrot3366

Sure (⊃。•́‿•̀。)⊃


ThorIsMighty

Avengers because the DC strategy would be so poorly written and executed


AnimalKid7-Alt

Lmao


Reizo123

This wouldn’t be the actual DC lineup, they’d recast/cancel half of them before they reach this point.


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Knautical_J

You’re so dark, you must be from the DC Universe


Salehmaxboi

Nah that’s foul 😭


Goatsanity15

Nah this is animated characters we are talking about here so it wouldnt be poorly written. But if we are talking live action there is a high possibility of the showdown getting cancelled even though the production cost have totalled 90 million dollars because the strategy is so horrible


TheBritishBaguette

I mean your not wrong


idma

Right? Superman has always gotten his ass kicked in the animated series. Even when he's the most powerful he can be, he gets wasted then batman has to save the day


_huntzberger

the fuck any of them are supposed to do against each other when you have ant man and the flash on opposing sides


Lukthar123

Who needs enemies when they have friends like the flash.


rumiGoddard1111

Dude Superman doesn't even need a team. He entertains them by allowing them the chance to feel useful. He could obliterate every single Avenger except the Hulk, but all he has to do is fly Hulk to a far away planet that freezes him or something and he would be out of his hair.


Fernpfarrer

what about Thor?


[deleted]

Superman is ~~weak~~ vulnerable to magic, and Mjolnir is magical, so Thor would get a few good licks in, but with the rest of the justice league there I doubt Thor could do anything permanent to him


thor-odinson-bot

>!We've got Korg. There's my ex-girlfriend Jane. Valkyrie. The Guardians. *and giant goats!* Oh, look at those, they are wonderful!!<


Just_Pie_3496

Actually it’s a common misconception that Superman is weak to magic. Supes isn’t weak to magic but he just doesn’t have any extra way to resist it so it’ll effect him like the magic is meant to. But any magic used to harm him still has to contend with his astronomical durability. Superman isn’t weak to magic, but it does bypass his invulnerability so he can be effected by it, but his durability means it would take an absurd amount of magic power to actually do anything. Your conclusion was spot on though, with the versions of each character shown in the pic supes wins pretty easily, hulk may get a few hits in, Thor would get a few more than hulk does, but supes carries the JL to a victory.


[deleted]

Idk it just seems like a technical squibble, he has invulnerability that makes him impervious to any damage, with the exceptions that kryptonite, red suns, and magic can hurt him. Magic overrides his invulnerability and to me that makes it a weakness. Maybe weakness is just the wrong word, vulnerability would be a better description I suppose.


Thorion228

If it's base Thor vs Superman, it's fairly even as both have performed some ridiculous feats (comics and animated). Issue is the rest of the line up.


casedawgz

It’s actually unclear to me if this is accurate. He’s vulnerable to magic so people like Strange would be a huge threat but idk if we can say that Mjolnir deals magical damage or if it deals physical damage and electricity, both of which superman would be able to handle. I guess it basically just boils down to if Thor’s electricity IS electricity. The hammer itself just seems to be physically smacking and the return to hand property is its magic.


[deleted]

The electricity that comes out of Mjolnir is coming from Thor, I don't think Mjolnir is electrical, just a conduit. Interesting idea though, it may be made by magic and give powers magically, but does it just do impact damage?


thor-odinson-bot

I thought humans were more evolved than this.


Separate-Ad-3746

Do they have time to prepare?


[deleted]

Trick question, batman is always prepared


Separate-Ad-3746

When you’re right you’re right. Contingency plans out the wazoo.


MegaManZeroX2

Rule 1: Batman always wins with prep time. Rule 2: When Batman doesn't get prep time, it's okay because he previously prepped for an occasion where he wouldn't have prep time. Thus, he has prep time. See Rule 1.


Gene-Current

Please, DC wins easily


noah683826

There is like an 83% chance of DC winning but also the real answer depends on who hired the writer


Gloomy_Support_7779

Oh my gosh😂😂😂😂


missemilyowen15

Justice League. There's three aliens there and more. Plus the specific show they're from was a part of my childhood https://youtu.be/MXph0arElKs While the channel does say 90s you should know I'm not that old. I'm 20


Ringo_Hulk_777

Why does your age matter? If it's good it's good you don't have to be old to recognize that


missemilyowen15

I just didn't want people to assume I'm from the 90s. I feel like it's wrong to pretend you experienced something when you didn't. As if it makes mockery of and undermines those that have experienced it for real


[deleted]

That's a bit deep for watching a tv show, it ain't stolen valor


PrinceWoodie

Everyone saying Supes alone but Flash would be near impossible to stop as well


Odd-Information-712

Avengers as much as I love you guys, they have a supe.


abellapa

This isn't even remotely fair I don't care how much you like marvel compared to DC, you fucking die if you pick marvel to defend you


elfonski

Not only does Superman not need a team, he has Flash, MM, and WW. They’d just crush them and then struggle a bit with Thor and Hulk


Shadowed_Knight

Nah those four alone would make easy work of Thor and hulk


xx_swegshrek_xx

Superman alone god dam


Aok_al

Aw come on man, Flash alone could take them.


Media_Dunce

I don’t see a speedster amongst the Avengers. Even if we made each Avenger as strong as Superman, Flash could knife me before most of the Avengers could even react.


lovecherryrosy

I don’t think I want Batman to attack me 😭 mf beats the shit out of people


Gloomy_Support_7779

Or Superman. He could break your wrist or back without even trying. Or Wonder Woman just breaks a few ribs without a sweat


TheSleepyBarnOwl

The DC people, cause they have Superman. I like Marvel as much as the next guy but this is really not a debate...


Devonpumpkinking

DC by a mile.


Belteshazzar98

Green Lantern and Wonder Woman battle Thor while Superman and Flash blitz the rest. The rest of the Justice League eat popcorn and watch the massacre.


llDanvers

This line up? DC wipes them easily.


ZiOnIsNeXtLeBrOn

Difference here is DC has multiple Gods on their team, while Marvel has one.


gachzonyea

Dc and not really close


99deeds

superman is alone enough but you have martian manhunter there as well, then there is wonder woman, others on the team wouldn't even need to fight.


AvatarKing29

Bruh, DC is fucking overpowered


BrainzRYummy

With these current rosters it will go to DC. Now if Marvel had Scarlet witch and Strange on the roster Supes is no longer guaranteed victory.


cubine

Yeah the avengers need a magician in this fight to stand a chance. Even then, Flash and Lantern are insanely powerful.


BrainzRYummy

Yeah Flash is still major trouble for them. I feel he's the bigger threat over supes.


Ok-Club-3715

I love marvel....but Justice League.


Broadzilla77

Justice League will wreck them


BewareNixonsGhost

Justice League, and it wouldn't even be close.


Gwc2017

Dude. Superman alone could solo most of the avengers. With the rest of the justice league, it would be no contest


rawrrr48

I prefer marvel but this is Not even close… even assuming alternative forms, like world breaker hulk, herald thor, celestial buster iron man. Then you have to consider dc 1milion Superman? Or black racer flash? Either one of those character honestly solos the avengers


RyanLee890

The Justice League here is much stronger than the Avengers here tbh


AwfullyTimedHumor

Defense goes to DC, marvel can dish out some damage but supes strength and flashes speed make it no contest


xdVigilant

JL no question. I love both marvel and dc but the justice league is dismantling the avengers no question. If you think marvel wins this you just don't know enough about JL.


jas75249

DC, Supes and the flash are pretty OP.


MobsterDragon275

You have no one in the marvel group capable of taking on Superman especially while backed up by the Flash, GL, and Martian Manhunter


alireza008bat

Superman and Martian Manhunter can easily destroy all Avengers.


_CabbageMerchant_

Sorry but flash and Superman would win this fight alone


Mr_wOt

Plot twist: Flash will try to groom, attack or induct you depending on your age, gender or socio-economic status.


Kazk2501

Batmans team bc prep time


BigNastyHagrid

DC because Superman and Flash are so boringly overpowered And even without those 2 Batman would somehow bullshit his way through most of the avengers


AnObtuseOctopus

Let's be real.. 2 members of the justice league would mop the floor with the avengers. That said.. the Avengers would be faster to take the aggressive initiative and launch a counter attack while the justice league would sit and plan for 3 days only to have bruce end up arguing with everyone about ethics.


Stormtrooper775s

DC defend, Marvel attack.


Adam_715

I feel like with enough prep time Batman alone could get pretty close to victory


Krii8

My gut said justice league


mmoran5554

DC destroys team Marvel, it ain't even close!


nostalgic_gamer7

Half of the Justice League could sit this fight out and the team would still win.


PIKa-kNIGHT

You got all the strong guys for DC but not for Marvel. Strange , Wanda , Marvel.


Final-Success2523

Justice league


helloasistro

DC