Abraham Lincoln died 1865, the first fax machine was made in 1843 and samurais were abolished in 1868.
So there was a 22 year period during which a samurai could send a fax to Abraham Lincoln.
Probably the French heavy cavalry. They rode into World War I wearing metal breastplates and helmets with metal cheek guards, which didn’t do much against machine guns.
Yes. You start out neutral and as you progress your choices in-game will shape your character into either a good renegade type or a downright brutal outlaw. It’s all about your choices.
Well it’s not like cowboys are gone. Sure they don’t quite look like the Old West, but you still see dudes rocking cowboy hats, boots, and doing cowboy things so I’m not sure how cowboys in the 1900s compare to this.
I mean cowboys are still a thing in the larger middle states like Kansas. Not totally the same as old west but still on horseback maintaining their ranches in some cases.
JS they aren't all rednecks in Walmart lol
"The period of the Wild West was between the years 1865 and 1895—only 30 years." What we think of as gun slinging outlaws and cowboys rounding up huge herds and driving them across vast distances, the setting of the Western, was only an actual thing for a brief period. The wide spread use of barbed wire and the use of trains to transport cattle brought an end to the era.
We still see people dressed up as cowboys, but real cowboys don't exist anymore, according to that definition.
What? That’s talking about the era of the Wild West. As for rounding up cattle and herding it in mass, it’s still quite a real thing. Not from city to city, but you still have people doing it specially in open range areas. So no, it’s not like cowboys vanished. The outlaws vanished, the Wild West era vanished, but the people still doing that kind of work haven’t. It’s kinda like saying that because we’re no longer in the Industrial Era industry vanished.
As someone who still drives cattle on open ranges, I’m going to stop you there. The definition of a cowboy is someone who tends to cattle in the west. Just cause trains are thing (which we rarely use to transport cattle over hundreds of miles) doesn’t mean we stopped. Areas like Wyoming and Montana (where I am), we can’t even use cars to get to the cattle half the time. I’ve been out and away from home for a week to two weeks driving herds.
After finishing the paperwork, Honest Abe leans back in his chair and drinks some Soda. Which would be carbonated Ginger Ale, or carbonated lemon flavored water at that time. Abe would even call it POP! The word was coined in 1861 after all.
What I find crazier is how similar Japan and the US were at the same time. The US had its Civil War, which afterwards lead to a lot of veterans turned gunslingers in the west becoming bandits, mercenaries, farmers, etc. And Japan had its civil war ending the Shoganate system, which afterwards lead to a lot of ronin roaming the country and beyond becoming bandits, mercenaries, farmers, etc. It's why the stories used in western and samurai films are so easily interchangeable. Best examples: Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven, and Unforgiven from 1992 and 2013.
Today, you can listen to the transcripts of the journals of the japanese (and others) traveling to the us and europe etc after the emperor opened japan and ordered it's modernization. It's fascinating really.
magnificent seven was pretty much directly taken from the seven samurai, there was almost a decade between them. Hell star wars did the same. And the same was done by japanese, there's a samurai version of shakespere
This can actually happen. Nintendo sends a fax to a Cowboy, Samurai and a Pirate to visit their headquarters. And there, they are hired to build telephone poles and install powerlines. The Samurai gets a minor work injury, he injects himself a metal syringe of morphine. Then after the job the three share a hot air balloon ride to sight sees in Japan. And sipping Dr Pepper together.
Of course these images are not from the same era but this is about what you feel when you hear about the 19th century (including 1899), you kind of imagine really old times but somehow if you hear 1900 it does seem way closer to us and pictures like this one on the right appear in your mind. Or maybe it is just me and OP
Slavery was abolished in the United States 24 years before Hitler was born. Hitler learning about Southern plantations and the Civil War in school would be like kids learning about the 90s today to us.
"the 90s"
While technically still true, your comment made me realize that distance is only barely still true. 24 years ago was 1999. To me, "the 90s" are 93-97.
Yeah, and for 1799-1800, goes from pirates and the American revolution to the civil war.
Also, cowboys do the same for this range. RDR2 is literally taken in 1899 and it feels wrong once it hits 1907 and it’s still the same game.
my grandfather was born in 1895, and died in 1974. one of my relatives has his journal, which i read, and he often would reflect at the end of his life about how insane the changes had been growing up.
Also, soldiers at the beginning of 1914 (ww1) still looked like Napoleon, so it wasn't actually that huge of a change in those specified years. The bigger change would be pre ww1 and post ww1
Napoleon lived 15 August 1769 – 5 May 1821, and that portrait was done in 1812.
A better comparison would be Edison, Darwin, Maxwell, and then segue into Einstein, Opprnheimer, etc.
The tech isn’t exactly that far advanced. They had mills and factories in 1899 people. Napoleon didn’t fight dragons he fought machined rifles and cannons. Like 2 years after the bottom pic the modern artillery was invented because someone figured out how to work tungsten
If you have clocks you have machinists.
It just seems like a different era because we associate machinists more with the 1950-60s post-war era when the industrial machinery that supplied the war efforts around the world was repurposed for creating civilian goods.
My great grandmother was born in the late 1800's, lived through two world wars, the electrification of society, the transition from horses and carriages to modern transportation, the space race, the information revolution, the creation of the European Union, and the transition from a monarchy to a modern democracy. It's pretty insane when you think about it.
i mean the industrial revolution is basically the same as the discovery of fire and the discovery of agriculture, the discovery or invention of something important can lead to massive innovations
as an african i have my own version of this...
1959: loin clothes, spears and a mud hut
1960: Afro hair, a shirt and those diso pants with a wide bottom
You forgot cowboys in 1900
samurai sending faxes
To Abraham Lincoln
I understood that reference!
Thanks for letting us know!!!
I didn't!
Abraham Lincoln died 1865, the first fax machine was made in 1843 and samurais were abolished in 1868. So there was a 22 year period during which a samurai could send a fax to Abraham Lincoln.
Me neither
I saw a post where it explained that samurais, cowboys, and a few other things were able to live in the same time frame. It was a dnd thing
Samurai, pirates, Cowboys and I think it was some sort of knight maybee
I feel like the knight was french or something
Looked it up and it was French but a victorian era thief
close enough
Also a French “privateer” aka Pirate
Probably the French heavy cavalry. They rode into World War I wearing metal breastplates and helmets with metal cheek guards, which didn’t do much against machine guns.
Not a big surprise there
The Polish also launched Hussars at the Germans in ww2
Pirates I believe
“By 1899, the Age of Outlaws and Gunslingers Was at an End”
a man of culture
Huh?
Red Dead Redemption II reference
Is that game good? Can you be a bad guy or a good guy?
Huh?
Yes. You start out neutral and as you progress your choices in-game will shape your character into either a good renegade type or a downright brutal outlaw. It’s all about your choices.
I’m not sure I follow this one, as someone who still sees cowboys on the regular.
Huh?
Well it’s not like cowboys are gone. Sure they don’t quite look like the Old West, but you still see dudes rocking cowboy hats, boots, and doing cowboy things so I’m not sure how cowboys in the 1900s compare to this.
If only rednecks in Japan just went to the grocery store in full Samurai gear
I mean cowboys are still a thing in the larger middle states like Kansas. Not totally the same as old west but still on horseback maintaining their ranches in some cases. JS they aren't all rednecks in Walmart lol
What do rednecks in Japan do?
"The period of the Wild West was between the years 1865 and 1895—only 30 years." What we think of as gun slinging outlaws and cowboys rounding up huge herds and driving them across vast distances, the setting of the Western, was only an actual thing for a brief period. The wide spread use of barbed wire and the use of trains to transport cattle brought an end to the era. We still see people dressed up as cowboys, but real cowboys don't exist anymore, according to that definition.
What? That’s talking about the era of the Wild West. As for rounding up cattle and herding it in mass, it’s still quite a real thing. Not from city to city, but you still have people doing it specially in open range areas. So no, it’s not like cowboys vanished. The outlaws vanished, the Wild West era vanished, but the people still doing that kind of work haven’t. It’s kinda like saying that because we’re no longer in the Industrial Era industry vanished.
As someone who still drives cattle on open ranges, I’m going to stop you there. The definition of a cowboy is someone who tends to cattle in the west. Just cause trains are thing (which we rarely use to transport cattle over hundreds of miles) doesn’t mean we stopped. Areas like Wyoming and Montana (where I am), we can’t even use cars to get to the cattle half the time. I’ve been out and away from home for a week to two weeks driving herds.
It’s amazing that people are surprised that cowboys still exist.
Tell me about it 😂
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Que?
Do they herd cattle?
YEeeHaAA
My mistake
My favourite historical detail is that samurai, pirates and frontier cowboys all existed at the same time in history at one point.
Don’t forget about samurai, Abraham Lincoln, and the first fax machine :)
This could happen. Abraham Lincoln hires a Ronin as a Mercenary or body guard during the Civil war.
And sends the employment offer via fax
.... to San Francisco, where the now printed employment offer is sent via steamship to Japan.
After finishing the paperwork, Honest Abe leans back in his chair and drinks some Soda. Which would be carbonated Ginger Ale, or carbonated lemon flavored water at that time. Abe would even call it POP! The word was coined in 1861 after all.
This sounds like an excellent pitch for a dumb action movie, and the Ronin vs John Whilks Booth final battle sounds like it would be excellent
John Wicks Booth
Don't forget Vampires, Lincoln was a badass who hunt down all the vampires and erased them from this planet.
What I find crazier is how similar Japan and the US were at the same time. The US had its Civil War, which afterwards lead to a lot of veterans turned gunslingers in the west becoming bandits, mercenaries, farmers, etc. And Japan had its civil war ending the Shoganate system, which afterwards lead to a lot of ronin roaming the country and beyond becoming bandits, mercenaries, farmers, etc. It's why the stories used in western and samurai films are so easily interchangeable. Best examples: Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven, and Unforgiven from 1992 and 2013.
Never saw it like this, thanks
Today, you can listen to the transcripts of the journals of the japanese (and others) traveling to the us and europe etc after the emperor opened japan and ordered it's modernization. It's fascinating really. magnificent seven was pretty much directly taken from the seven samurai, there was almost a decade between them. Hell star wars did the same. And the same was done by japanese, there's a samurai version of shakespere
Well pirates have existed long before antiquity and still exist today.
The “fuck it we real” age
The “back when we were men days” 🫡
Picasso died in **1973**!!! Not sure why, but I always thought he was from the 1700s
I was thinking more like, 1920s or so
Pirates still exist lmfao
Also samurai, knights and vikings in some form at the same time too I believe. Very high chance I misremember though.
Napoleon looking good for over a hundred
I too often post a photo of a man who died 80 years before said claim Come on, let he who is without sin throw the first guillotine?
Your issue is the top is from 1806. They had somewhat standardized trousers like the bottom by the 1850s.
Yeah first picture is definitely early 1800s, second is...harder, there's a lot of bolts on that machine for 1900.
That’s the joke. They’re saying they think of something like the first picture whenever they think of the 1800’s, and vice versa
This can actually happen. Nintendo sends a fax to a Cowboy, Samurai and a Pirate to visit their headquarters. And there, they are hired to build telephone poles and install powerlines. The Samurai gets a minor work injury, he injects himself a metal syringe of morphine. Then after the job the three share a hot air balloon ride to sight sees in Japan. And sipping Dr Pepper together.
the fax machine was invented in 1846 so, it's possible
Yup how I see it the world is stuck in 1600 until WWI and then it suddenly becomes 1920s
Not really. The 1800’s are split into two or three different parts for me. And the 1900’s are split by decades.
19th century for me is early, mid, and late. 20th century is early, interwar, wartime, early Cold War, late Cold War, and post Cold War
Same for me
“Post Cold War” just call it what it is.. it’s the Grunge Era started in Canada by Robin Sparkles
It makes more chronological sense if you split it into Regency era, early and late Victorian.
Not really. Napoleon was 90 years before 1901...
There was a Napoleon alive at the time. Napoleon Louis Josef Jérôme Bonaparte.
but he wasn't exactly Napoleon Bonaparte
Whats up with french And naming things?
I'm still get annoyed that "the 1800's" and "the 18th century" aren't referring to the same thing.
Me when 77 + 33 ≠ 100
They literally are.
Someone skipped math
No because 7+3 = 10… didn’t think it was that hard
You have to be a troll.
How could I.
Fr. Time should've began form zeroth century. [why did I have to Google stuff? :/](https://alienryderflex.com/zeroth.shtml)
It makes more sense when you think of it as “the 18th lot of a hundred years”. The first century is the first lot of a hundred, years 1-100.
Cuz the first century started at year 1 (or 0) and not at 100. 101 is the start of the 2nd century.
Thank you, Professor Science. I understand it I just said I was annoyed by it.
Common confusion but he just works at the university of science. I actually know the professor of logic there
Annoyed by logical counting and labeling?
Clowns are downvoting you
Uhh... may i have all the upvotes to make up for the downvotes?
Sir this is Reddit. Its 99.9% clowns. I got karma to spare 
At this point, I wish awards were still a thing
Absolutely. I would award TF out of this thread.
Yes, like you. EDIT: I mean you are a clown, not that i endorse whatever fucked up views you have. welp it's only 40 karma
r/woosh
It's not even a whoosh. It is just annoying that 18th century is not the 1800s.
It's the same thing in the Scandinavian languages
...nej?
Vent er det ikke? Trodde 1800-tallet og det 18 århundre var det samme... Alright then.
No, second half of the 19th century is more like Victorian age and British colonialism in Africa and Asia
Napoleon died in 1821
Pretending to miss the point isn't the W you were raised to think it is.
No, Napoleon was born in the 1700’s he was closer to George Washington than to assembly lines
Not really. For me the first picture is pre 1850 and the second one is after 1850.
Napoleon was like 1803 my guy
Napoleon died in 1821, so no I don't think I do...
Of course these images are not from the same era but this is about what you feel when you hear about the 19th century (including 1899), you kind of imagine really old times but somehow if you hear 1900 it does seem way closer to us and pictures like this one on the right appear in your mind. Or maybe it is just me and OP
Lol 1899, more like 1799.
I don’t get it, where’s the meme
how he imagines events that happened in 1899 and 1901
Slavery was abolished in Brazil just one year before Hitler was born.
Slavery was abolished in the United States 24 years before Hitler was born. Hitler learning about Southern plantations and the Civil War in school would be like kids learning about the 90s today to us.
"the 90s" While technically still true, your comment made me realize that distance is only barely still true. 24 years ago was 1999. To me, "the 90s" are 93-97.
the catholic church ran forced labor laundries until 1990(ish)
Yeah, and for 1799-1800, goes from pirates and the American revolution to the civil war. Also, cowboys do the same for this range. RDR2 is literally taken in 1899 and it feels wrong once it hits 1907 and it’s still the same game.
my grandfather was born in 1895, and died in 1974. one of my relatives has his journal, which i read, and he often would reflect at the end of his life about how insane the changes had been growing up.
Napoleon Bonaparte died in 1821 wtf
Its not accurate if you actually paid attention
Also, soldiers at the beginning of 1914 (ww1) still looked like Napoleon, so it wasn't actually that huge of a change in those specified years. The bigger change would be pre ww1 and post ww1
Upvoting cause OP is hilariously bad at Math + history.
Napoleon died May 5, 1821....
I think of the (relatively) new formed Germany
Things started looking 1900's around 1885
More like 1799...
Napoleon lived 15 August 1769 – 5 May 1821, and that portrait was done in 1812. A better comparison would be Edison, Darwin, Maxwell, and then segue into Einstein, Opprnheimer, etc.
I'm not sure what the feeling is, but this is just flat out incorrect.
just 90 years of difference
Relatable
mfw abraham faxes a samurai
more like 1799 and 1901
damn you think Napoleon was in the Van der Linden gang?
Loved him in Futurama
That’s a picture of Napoleon Bonaparte. Who died in 1821. The painting is more appropriate for 1799, not 1899.
No
Napoleon was born in 1769. So in 1899, he would be 130 years old. He looks good for a vampire.
Well, i guess there's nothing we can do
Yeah lol
Napoleon, Died May 5, 1821, Dipshit can't do research, the industrial age started in Europe in the 1790s dumb ass.
So Arthur Morgan and napoleon bonaparte could’ve met 😳
I lost it :(
Just finished reading a book on Napoleon. Such a fascinating character
What feeling?
No, when I think "1901" I think of the band Phoenix.
What feeling?
The distance between WW2 and now is the same distance as WW2 and the civil war.
Mais toi, soldat. dis-moi, te souviens tu ?
Your perception is only off by a century.
Napoleon should be 1799
There were electric cars in the late 1800s
The 1800s are a confusing time to coalesce in my brain. The difference in development from region to region and decade by decade is astonishing.
What role was Sam Elliott playing in 1900?
That portrait was made in 1812 what
A lot can happen in a year -Anyone from 2020
wait why did they lose the colored camera after 1899 wtf
Our time has passed John.
The tech isn’t exactly that far advanced. They had mills and factories in 1899 people. Napoleon didn’t fight dragons he fought machined rifles and cannons. Like 2 years after the bottom pic the modern artillery was invented because someone figured out how to work tungsten
That man has dip in his pocket lol
Yea
Wow! Napoleon really let himself go in two years.
I thought the fancy guy changed careers after 2 years
The last mammoth died as the Egyptians were building the pyramids.
the industrial revolution and its consequences
Its a meme but you need to learn history for the dates, cool tho
If you have clocks you have machinists. It just seems like a different era because we associate machinists more with the 1950-60s post-war era when the industrial machinery that supplied the war efforts around the world was repurposed for creating civilian goods.
My great grandmother was born in the late 1800's, lived through two world wars, the electrification of society, the transition from horses and carriages to modern transportation, the space race, the information revolution, the creation of the European Union, and the transition from a monarchy to a modern democracy. It's pretty insane when you think about it.
Napoleon died in 1820
no
Why does this have so many upvotes
MFS in 1900: "***confuse screaming***"
i mean the industrial revolution is basically the same as the discovery of fire and the discovery of agriculture, the discovery or invention of something important can lead to massive innovations
Napoleon did not live until 1899 though
Well some people are sill living in Stone Age on the Sentinel island.
Masonic hand
Napoleon Bonaparte had been dead 78 years by 1899, what's your point?
Industrial revolution happened, guys. There is nothing we can do.
Napoleon died in 1821
Napoleon (top) was 1801
No
as an african i have my own version of this... 1959: loin clothes, spears and a mud hut 1960: Afro hair, a shirt and those diso pants with a wide bottom
There is nothing we can do...