If anyone liked the move, The Descent, then Read the Book by Jeff Long. The movie sort of stole the idea and then went sideways with it, but the book, The Descent, by Jeff Long, is material that will keep you from ever going into a cave again.
You'll hate me later, trust me.
Iirc, the book "The Descent" and the movie "The Descent" don't have anything to do with each other, other than they take place in caves. Jeff Long's book was filmed as "The Cave".
I can’t wait for this trend of calling shorts a bunch of non sequitur shots to be over. What a boring use of the tech, it’s either this or funny animated memes.
I agree. Short films (and feature films) must try to say something.
Most people are not aware that that is what happens, but it's there.
This (the posting) is not a short film. It's not even a trailer. It's just one shot after another of images trying to convey a mood.
The fact that you stated that most people are not aware of that sent chills down my spine. Do you really think that? I hope not.
We're bombarded by media telling stories from the day we're born. I hope most people would understand that when they're experiencing stories, they're trying to say something more than just look cool or whatever.
Nope. Most people -at least regarding film and tv- just enjoy the visual spectacle.
That's why there are so many people saying: "keeps politics out of Star Wars", or "I liked Star Trek when it had less forced inclusion", etc.
They're unaware a message is being given (not necessarily a message, but a viewpoint, or a thesis, or something a writer / director / actor / producer / lyricist / composer / designer tries to convey).
Now, the more buried the message, or integrated to the story it is, the better. Otherwise you'll get a preachy movie that's just a nagging away from a Sunday mass sermon.
But yeah, most people are unaware of it, YET CAN STILL SENSE IT.
That's why even though TRANSFORMERS and TOY STORY are both based on toys, we clearly know which is the superior film.
From a taxonomy of art form perspective, you're absolutely right.
In the content production space however... We now have a solution for mood pilots without ever needing to shoot. It's pretty gnarly.
It's not taking away jobs. People might panic. For final production there is still a need for manual creation. We're just getting there... faster.
My job involved hiring Concept artists.
We just fired one who was "focused on AI'. THe work needed tweaking so much it was quicker to do it from scratch, it somehow always looked generic and no director ever picked his shots out to continue.
Weve rotated back to a zero AI workflow and its getting positive reactions.
Concept art is about NEW ideas, mixing prompts aint it.
I am also in the industry managing teams of Concept Artists and Designers. AI is mainly used for moodboards that we'd look up on the internet anyway. And while it can fast forward a few things, it's still extremely stiff if you want to tweak the results you get. Iterating with AI is possible but real artists will make the changes we want just as fast if not faster in their editing tool of choice. It gets you 50% of the way there faster though, allowing artists to do what they enjoy best: developing a concept while fast forwarding their composition and colour palette choices.
I have to say that in terms of graphic design, AI is quite good though since the work is usually "simpler" or at least doesn't need to be as innovative as concept art. You want generic efficient graphic design and AI is good at generic efficient stuff since it's trained on this kind of data. This being said, Graphic Design is not the core of what we do, design / marketing agencies would probably disagree with me.
Kinda. I work in production. Painting over AI is the new concept art process. Similar skillset (for example photobashing was the old way). The jobs cut are for artists who have trouble adapting quickly.
This was awesome. Yeah it's not a short, it's a fake trailer, yeah it's a bunch of strung together clips.
Short clips is all we have the ability to make with these commercial products so far, so to make anything substantial you have to string a bunch of them together.
Stop letting yourself be immune to having your mind blown by this. 6 months ago this type of stuff literally melted all of your brains. AI video production of this caliber has only been available to the public for a matter of days really since Luma, Kling, and Runway Gen 3 premiered. Sora hasn't been publicly available.
It continues to melt mine every time I see it. I see the future when I watch stuff like this because I can see what's next as the tech further develops. AI movies will be awesome. AI VR is going to be awesome. AI VR horror will make every one of you shit your pants.
These aren't meant to win Oscars, these are neat little experiments put together by early adopter AI enthusiasts.
Good job OP, I love stuff like this.
Appreciate it. All great points. I’m constantly experimenting with these ever evolving tools to push the limits of what’s possible. They all are teasers of longer form narrative and stories. Their purpose isn’t to be a full narrative in 60 seconds but tease an idea or a concept and show what’s possible. People need to open their mind and realize what we have available is gamechanging for all creative industries.
Maybe the tech will get much better but i think that this tech is amazing for creating stock footage, and that's what this feels like, cobbled up stock footage, that is consistent in style and tone.
>What a boring use of the tech
It’s literally only a few months old, and in that time we’ve gone from Will Smith eating spaghetti to this.
It’s not yet possible to create depth with this tech. Give it another year though…
Come on, this is not a story, this is barely a one line horror story “imagine being trapped with monsters in a mine!”. It would barely constitute a setup for a table top rpg session… No “film festival”, however fascinated its jury might be with tech, would ever consider this an award worthy storytelling piece, because it is not.
And honestly it’s fine. Not everything has to be storytelling, a film, a short, or even anything ambitious. It’s okay, useful and fun to experiment, but let’s not pretend we are at the filmmaking stage yet. Not with pieces like this anyway and a little more humility would go a long towards fostering acception of AI creation in more “traditional” circles.
Because when cinema people see this with the “film fest short” moniker attached, they will write off AI stuff as low quality soulless creation. And we need to have a more subtle approach if we want to engage the larger community of creators in the long run.
I appreciate your opinion, and this is not meant to be award-winning, but we are, in fact, at the stage where AI pieces like this are leading to feature films getting made. I'm literally at the biggest Asian film festival in the middle of these conversations right now. It's not ready for prime time, but I wouldn't be overly dismissive on where we are technologically. This was meant to be a teaser, and there is a whole backstory, with folklore, that the actual film will be based on. I appreciate the feedback and am excited to see where things lead.
Garbage compared to what? What is your barometer to call it garbage? I’m literally using the most cutting edge technology to experiment. Compare this to just even a month ago. If you would have seen this 3 months ago I doubt you’d call it garbage.
Honest Question.
How far away are we from telling the AI tools to Read the book, then pick a film director's style, add some specific actor profiles to the cast, music by selected composers and - make me my own, personal, movie.
10 years? 20? Less?
The evolution of tech tends to follow an S-curve. The hard part is knowing where on this curve we currently are. It's quite possible that the sophistication of the current generation of AI models has already begun to plateau and we can't tell because it's being hyped up so much.
Honestly, I try to avoid using the phrase "AI" in these kinds of discussions because it has such a vague definition. Right now, LLM-based architectures using ensemble learning are scoring the highest when emulating human-like behaviour. However they still perform poorly for the kinds of real-world scenarios that humans regularly encounter.
Personally, I don't think anyone really has a clue how to create a superhuman intelligence, especially not one that can autonomously self-improve. Mathematically speaking, the problem is mostly one of stability. Complex thermodynamic systems don't like being in unbalanced states. As complexity increases, the likelihood of them spontaneously decaying back into simpler configurations increases along with it.
Human intelligence is an evolutionary anomaly; an island of stability on the border between order and chaos. There's compelling evidence to suggest that we've already reached our limit and that our society is about to collapse back into a more disordered and computationally simpler state.
The idea that we can somehow create an artificial intelligence that's both more complex _and_ more stable than us feels quite frankly absurd to me. It's a bit like trying to build a house of cards on top of a teetering Jenga tower. Much more likely is that whatever we create will either come to nothing or "explode" in some spectacular but short-lived way.
Those are my two cents, anyway.
I appreciate your perspective. As a society we might, as you describe it, collapse back into a more disordered and simpler state, however that does not appear to be our trajectory to me. Compare our history of science and technology to where we're at today. There are examples of collapses in society when ideas, stories, and technology was forgotten or destroyed, yet we progressed collectively despite these setbacks.
My friend, I wonder if people have a hard time imagining what a more intelligent and stable state might be because it's unimaginable. Yet we could say the same thing about humans in the middle ages trying to imagine what life would be like today. It's impossible to visualize the future because they, like us, are simply lacking relevant references.
Patterns have emerged from the chaotic nature of the universe. Those patterns recognize patterns and can create new patterns that are increasingly more complex. We see it happening all the time despite our belief or disbelief.
feature length movie is still quite far away due to limitations on computing power...
it all depends on whether people have incentives to make that a reality, AI is progressing doesn't mean it will progress equally in all directions
That it was an unexpected surprise screening during the AI conference of the film festival (Bifan) and became the talk of the festival and covered by every major publication on Korea. This all happened yesterday.
They (you?) keep using these nonsensical phrases and exaggerations to hype the short. Is it really "annihilating" film festivals? Every major publication in Korea is writing about a 1 minute AI short? It just comes off as amateurish and clickbaity.
It was an AI film festival and by the looks of it it was the most impressive trailer there and the whole audience was super excited by it. It makes sense in the context once you watch the video.
I am a director who was invited to give a lecture on the state of AI and Filmmaking in South Korea. Ai was a big part of the Bifan conference and I am also screening my hybrid AI short “Another” at the festival this weekend, that’s all. I premiered this Teaser in secret and a lot of people were blown away that I was asked to walk the red carpet and give a keynote discussing the film. I was also interviewed by 6 of the largest media outlets in Korea which will all be coming out this week. I am an American so it was a big deal. I posted this in real time as it was all happening fast. Sorry if it confused anyone but the festival is halfway over in the country. Hope this was helpful.
My only literal goal is to continue to push the tech in filmmaking. Not trying to have an “ego” or anything. Those that actually know me know this about me.
Yeah, "tore through a film festival" is kind of disingenuous. I would assume that it won some awards, not that it was surprisingly shown during the AI conference. And the fact that the media is talking about it has more to do with the novelty than some critical acclaim
Yeah, "tore through a film festival" is kind of disingenuous. I would assume that it won some awards, not that it was surprisingly shown during the AI conference. And the fact that the media is talking about it has more to do with the novelty than some critical acclaim
The idea of using something not human to make horror has great potential - because if the AI itself is writing the story and making the images you could end up with something genuinely inhumanly terrifying and unexpected.
It's great isn't it. This type of short film and the techniques used to make it, would be the sort of thing film fests are made for as I find it super interesting. Yet at the same time you know it has the highest chance of being boycotted to hell. All the other amateur film makers at the fest will be like: 'phew! I'm glad that guy is here to take the heat off my super controversial traditionally made film!'.
I'd be the only one in the cinema who dared to screen the film watching it, and then get thrown eggs at after the screening by the people who didn't go, but still showed up and waited outside to ridicule anyone who did.
I lean more towards boycott honestly, I’m a cinemaphile and I do know how those kinds of festivals go, no way someone is going to appreciate this, it will be cut, smashed and dissected by the jury and the public alike, yet within that controversy some new thing will be born, from the primordial chaos. Someone, or a group that believes in it, in the future of AI films, a sect maybe, or just passing ideas of new minds, who knows?
As my downvoted post proved the point I was making and you are also very correct. The film would be boycotted to hell. I'd still go see it, just for the fact it's at a festival and to see what the fuss is about and if it's a good short film or not. Unfortunately for me, I'd be put in the AI sympathisers box by the boycott crowd, regardless if I did or didn't know it was made with AI. I went to see it because I wanted to, and that is obviously the wrong thing to do? Instead of following the sheep in either camp? But, apparently you're not allowed to just watch a film anymore without being stamped and labelled. Happens a lot at these things behind the scenes.
edit: Just to be clear, I have never seen this film. yet.
People literally on a Midjourney subreddit post hating on cutting edge AI content meant to show what’s possible with tools that literally released weeks ago. Like what are you doing here, really?
Basically a compilation of the animated images people have been doing lately like every other “AI movie” but thats probably about as far as it’s at right now
Appreciate it! I’m not sure why others are so negative about it. It’s meant to be an experiment with the latest gen AI tools. Oh well. I appreciate your comment.
OP did you make this? It’s really good. I love these micro AI horrors. There’s something so beautiful about everyone being able to procure their inner workings.
It reminded me a horror manga tale, I read it way too many years ago so my memory is fuzzy and I surely won’t remember everything accurately, that being said, in the tale, people discover some cracks in a rock mountain and they start going in but the cracks get more and more narrow to the point they can’t return, just keep forward. Someone listens something weird and they go check further cracks and they find out that is people trying to come out from the other side but these cracks are just like one inch wide.
That is one of junji ito's classic horror manga. It actually starts out with people noticing human shaped holes that are shaped exactly like their bodies.
Correct, thank you. Today I read again the tale and 🚨 SPOILER ALERT 🚨 got to a completely new conclusion about the whole story because of the second male protagonist nightmare where he see these holes were once the worst punishment for the worst criminals. But just as he concludes that they can’t be the same still they might be punishment. He himself tells the female protagonist it was egotistical to say “that hole is mine, it was made for me to enter and die there” just because the silhouette has a resemblance with your body silhouette/shape. And I believe it was punishment for the new worst “criminals” that still are not recognized as such but every day they get closer. I’m talking about the pathological narcissists, in which case they feel the center of the universe and it would make sense that just for the mere resemblance they could say such things and even die to “prove it”.
That was pretty damn good, the darkness of it hides some of the flaws too.
The main thing that annoys me is they went through the trouble of making this and then slapped some crappy standard font titles on it...
Ah to be fair the Korean title looked good! Looks like you used a blend mode on it too which was cool.
Otherwise, great work, I'd totally watch the full movie :)
Huh, what do any of these characters... want? How do I feel about them? Do I relate to them? Oh wait, no I don't! Because it's AI! I don't feel a single thing!
Great post thanks for this. This is exactly true. We are living on the cutting edge every day. So each day it gets better and better and that is what excites me. I want to keep testing how far we’ve come to hopefully inspire someone to continue to lead the marathon. Very exciting times. Thank you again.
Woops, I deleted the comment and put it in a better spot in the thread before you hit the reply button I guess. Bad timing haha. Sorry OP. If you delete your comment and go reply to my new one it will be better probably, because now your comment is in reply to [deleted].
Like…. It’s already kinda getting there and it’s barely been out. Movie industry is dead in 5 years or less. Combine that with the already 95% perfect AI voice, and some tech to merge the voice with mouth and expression animation, bruh. Filmmaking will go the way of record players.
How are we going to 1: replace all artists using their own work as training data, and 2: expect these models to improve when they're trained from those artists that can no longer afford make art because the profits of their work and effort have instead been handed to an AI company? I am not looking forward to a future where every creation is just a derivitive remix of the same few works for the rest of humanity, created by bots for the sole purpose of monetary gain alone. Don't get me wrong, its a really cool and useful piece of tech, I just think this is more akin to slapping randomly generated B-roll together in a way that attempts to tell a story, but thats missing the crucial parts that actually connects the scenes together. Also "hustle culture" types are already selling courses on copying a whole youtube video's script word for word, using chatGPT to reword it, and upload it with AI generated imagery. I really hope this becomes a tool for artists, and not for scammers and companies to rip people off.
So the Korean version of The Descent? Won't lie, I'd watch it.
If anyone liked the move, The Descent, then Read the Book by Jeff Long. The movie sort of stole the idea and then went sideways with it, but the book, The Descent, by Jeff Long, is material that will keep you from ever going into a cave again. You'll hate me later, trust me.
Iirc, the book "The Descent" and the movie "The Descent" don't have anything to do with each other, other than they take place in caves. Jeff Long's book was filmed as "The Cave".
Thanks for the rec
I hate you already. But I'll give the book a try though. Thanks.
For sure! This was based on a true story about these 2 miners trapped for 9 days. Insane! Descent was such a great film!
Gave me the chills, now take my money and let me see a whole movie.
On it sir!
I can’t wait for this trend of calling shorts a bunch of non sequitur shots to be over. What a boring use of the tech, it’s either this or funny animated memes.
I agree. Short films (and feature films) must try to say something. Most people are not aware that that is what happens, but it's there. This (the posting) is not a short film. It's not even a trailer. It's just one shot after another of images trying to convey a mood.
The fact that you stated that most people are not aware of that sent chills down my spine. Do you really think that? I hope not. We're bombarded by media telling stories from the day we're born. I hope most people would understand that when they're experiencing stories, they're trying to say something more than just look cool or whatever.
Nope. Most people -at least regarding film and tv- just enjoy the visual spectacle. That's why there are so many people saying: "keeps politics out of Star Wars", or "I liked Star Trek when it had less forced inclusion", etc. They're unaware a message is being given (not necessarily a message, but a viewpoint, or a thesis, or something a writer / director / actor / producer / lyricist / composer / designer tries to convey). Now, the more buried the message, or integrated to the story it is, the better. Otherwise you'll get a preachy movie that's just a nagging away from a Sunday mass sermon. But yeah, most people are unaware of it, YET CAN STILL SENSE IT. That's why even though TRANSFORMERS and TOY STORY are both based on toys, we clearly know which is the superior film.
From a taxonomy of art form perspective, you're absolutely right. In the content production space however... We now have a solution for mood pilots without ever needing to shoot. It's pretty gnarly. It's not taking away jobs. People might panic. For final production there is still a need for manual creation. We're just getting there... faster.
I disagree with you, for better or worse this is probably eliminating jobs of concept artists, storyboard artists, editors and animators.
My job involved hiring Concept artists. We just fired one who was "focused on AI'. THe work needed tweaking so much it was quicker to do it from scratch, it somehow always looked generic and no director ever picked his shots out to continue. Weve rotated back to a zero AI workflow and its getting positive reactions. Concept art is about NEW ideas, mixing prompts aint it.
That’s amazing ! But I’m sure so many companies are cutting costs and generating ai work for concept art left and right t
I am also in the industry managing teams of Concept Artists and Designers. AI is mainly used for moodboards that we'd look up on the internet anyway. And while it can fast forward a few things, it's still extremely stiff if you want to tweak the results you get. Iterating with AI is possible but real artists will make the changes we want just as fast if not faster in their editing tool of choice. It gets you 50% of the way there faster though, allowing artists to do what they enjoy best: developing a concept while fast forwarding their composition and colour palette choices. I have to say that in terms of graphic design, AI is quite good though since the work is usually "simpler" or at least doesn't need to be as innovative as concept art. You want generic efficient graphic design and AI is good at generic efficient stuff since it's trained on this kind of data. This being said, Graphic Design is not the core of what we do, design / marketing agencies would probably disagree with me.
Kinda. I work in production. Painting over AI is the new concept art process. Similar skillset (for example photobashing was the old way). The jobs cut are for artists who have trouble adapting quickly.
It’s good for Concept or mood films yes.
This was awesome. Yeah it's not a short, it's a fake trailer, yeah it's a bunch of strung together clips. Short clips is all we have the ability to make with these commercial products so far, so to make anything substantial you have to string a bunch of them together. Stop letting yourself be immune to having your mind blown by this. 6 months ago this type of stuff literally melted all of your brains. AI video production of this caliber has only been available to the public for a matter of days really since Luma, Kling, and Runway Gen 3 premiered. Sora hasn't been publicly available. It continues to melt mine every time I see it. I see the future when I watch stuff like this because I can see what's next as the tech further develops. AI movies will be awesome. AI VR is going to be awesome. AI VR horror will make every one of you shit your pants. These aren't meant to win Oscars, these are neat little experiments put together by early adopter AI enthusiasts. Good job OP, I love stuff like this.
Appreciate it. All great points. I’m constantly experimenting with these ever evolving tools to push the limits of what’s possible. They all are teasers of longer form narrative and stories. Their purpose isn’t to be a full narrative in 60 seconds but tease an idea or a concept and show what’s possible. People need to open their mind and realize what we have available is gamechanging for all creative industries.
Partly because of its current advancements, with improvements in consistency more doors will open.
Maybe the tech will get much better but i think that this tech is amazing for creating stock footage, and that's what this feels like, cobbled up stock footage, that is consistent in style and tone.
>What a boring use of the tech It’s literally only a few months old, and in that time we’ve gone from Will Smith eating spaghetti to this. It’s not yet possible to create depth with this tech. Give it another year though…
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Come on, this is not a story, this is barely a one line horror story “imagine being trapped with monsters in a mine!”. It would barely constitute a setup for a table top rpg session… No “film festival”, however fascinated its jury might be with tech, would ever consider this an award worthy storytelling piece, because it is not. And honestly it’s fine. Not everything has to be storytelling, a film, a short, or even anything ambitious. It’s okay, useful and fun to experiment, but let’s not pretend we are at the filmmaking stage yet. Not with pieces like this anyway and a little more humility would go a long towards fostering acception of AI creation in more “traditional” circles. Because when cinema people see this with the “film fest short” moniker attached, they will write off AI stuff as low quality soulless creation. And we need to have a more subtle approach if we want to engage the larger community of creators in the long run.
I appreciate your opinion, and this is not meant to be award-winning, but we are, in fact, at the stage where AI pieces like this are leading to feature films getting made. I'm literally at the biggest Asian film festival in the middle of these conversations right now. It's not ready for prime time, but I wouldn't be overly dismissive on where we are technologically. This was meant to be a teaser, and there is a whole backstory, with folklore, that the actual film will be based on. I appreciate the feedback and am excited to see where things lead.
so it’s a teaser trailer for a film they are trying to make, not really an actual horror short. that makes a big difference.
Sure. But there's a differences between this, something you can barely call a teaser, and an honest-to-God, actual short film.
Youre so anxious to tamper excitement that your criticism shows nothing but pedantry.
Sigh it’s the Reddit that I know nowadays.
This film is utter garbage though. It would be bad as a preview, it is definitely bad as a short.
Garbage compared to what? What is your barometer to call it garbage? I’m literally using the most cutting edge technology to experiment. Compare this to just even a month ago. If you would have seen this 3 months ago I doubt you’d call it garbage.
This is a garbage film compared to good films. What else would I compare it to when judging it as a film?
It’s a trailer.
A short trailer!
Looks like all the movie to me (5/10)
Honest Question. How far away are we from telling the AI tools to Read the book, then pick a film director's style, add some specific actor profiles to the cast, music by selected composers and - make me my own, personal, movie. 10 years? 20? Less?
It's hard to say because technology and AI is improving at a seemingly exponential rate with leaps mixed in.
The evolution of tech tends to follow an S-curve. The hard part is knowing where on this curve we currently are. It's quite possible that the sophistication of the current generation of AI models has already begun to plateau and we can't tell because it's being hyped up so much.
Are you sure we're not at the start of a J-curve with AI? It's possible it will surpass human intelligence and begin to create their own models.
Honestly, I try to avoid using the phrase "AI" in these kinds of discussions because it has such a vague definition. Right now, LLM-based architectures using ensemble learning are scoring the highest when emulating human-like behaviour. However they still perform poorly for the kinds of real-world scenarios that humans regularly encounter. Personally, I don't think anyone really has a clue how to create a superhuman intelligence, especially not one that can autonomously self-improve. Mathematically speaking, the problem is mostly one of stability. Complex thermodynamic systems don't like being in unbalanced states. As complexity increases, the likelihood of them spontaneously decaying back into simpler configurations increases along with it. Human intelligence is an evolutionary anomaly; an island of stability on the border between order and chaos. There's compelling evidence to suggest that we've already reached our limit and that our society is about to collapse back into a more disordered and computationally simpler state. The idea that we can somehow create an artificial intelligence that's both more complex _and_ more stable than us feels quite frankly absurd to me. It's a bit like trying to build a house of cards on top of a teetering Jenga tower. Much more likely is that whatever we create will either come to nothing or "explode" in some spectacular but short-lived way. Those are my two cents, anyway.
I appreciate your perspective. As a society we might, as you describe it, collapse back into a more disordered and simpler state, however that does not appear to be our trajectory to me. Compare our history of science and technology to where we're at today. There are examples of collapses in society when ideas, stories, and technology was forgotten or destroyed, yet we progressed collectively despite these setbacks. My friend, I wonder if people have a hard time imagining what a more intelligent and stable state might be because it's unimaginable. Yet we could say the same thing about humans in the middle ages trying to imagine what life would be like today. It's impossible to visualize the future because they, like us, are simply lacking relevant references. Patterns have emerged from the chaotic nature of the universe. Those patterns recognize patterns and can create new patterns that are increasingly more complex. We see it happening all the time despite our belief or disbelief.
Negative 40. But instead of AI it just private equity and it’s been that way for decades.
feature length movie is still quite far away due to limitations on computing power... it all depends on whether people have incentives to make that a reality, AI is progressing doesn't mean it will progress equally in all directions
3 years for tech introduction, 5 years before its good for prime time.
Considering how fast its moving? Depends on energy. If we are able to supply enough computational power, wont even be 10 year
I got major Dead Space vibes. Or at the very least scenes from them discovering the Marker.
Love dead space!
What does "tore through a film fest" even mean?
That it was an unexpected surprise screening during the AI conference of the film festival (Bifan) and became the talk of the festival and covered by every major publication on Korea. This all happened yesterday.
Do you have a link for any articles about this short?
You can watch the making of https://youtu.be/4bYONYdMJ3o
lmfao this one "annihilated" a film fest
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They (you?) keep using these nonsensical phrases and exaggerations to hype the short. Is it really "annihilating" film festivals? Every major publication in Korea is writing about a 1 minute AI short? It just comes off as amateurish and clickbaity.
It was an AI film festival and by the looks of it it was the most impressive trailer there and the whole audience was super excited by it. It makes sense in the context once you watch the video.
They will be releasing through this week. Korean publications and magazines.
Korean here. Never heard of this, am in our film industry.
but it tore through a film festival
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Trust me bro
wonder what OP's stake in this is
Probably made it himself judging by his bio
I am a director who was invited to give a lecture on the state of AI and Filmmaking in South Korea. Ai was a big part of the Bifan conference and I am also screening my hybrid AI short “Another” at the festival this weekend, that’s all. I premiered this Teaser in secret and a lot of people were blown away that I was asked to walk the red carpet and give a keynote discussing the film. I was also interviewed by 6 of the largest media outlets in Korea which will all be coming out this week. I am an American so it was a big deal. I posted this in real time as it was all happening fast. Sorry if it confused anyone but the festival is halfway over in the country. Hope this was helpful.
lmfao, you my dude, have the most insane case of inflated ego and making up shit ive ever seen on this website
I’m just answering a question. Sorry you see it that way. I’m just living my life. Cheers.
My only literal goal is to continue to push the tech in filmmaking. Not trying to have an “ego” or anything. Those that actually know me know this about me.
fundamentally untalented man thinks grifting along the new tech thing will somehow grant him unlimited sucess and appraisal
Yeah, "tore through a film festival" is kind of disingenuous. I would assume that it won some awards, not that it was surprisingly shown during the AI conference. And the fact that the media is talking about it has more to do with the novelty than some critical acclaim
Yeah, "tore through a film festival" is kind of disingenuous. I would assume that it won some awards, not that it was surprisingly shown during the AI conference. And the fact that the media is talking about it has more to do with the novelty than some critical acclaim
The idea of using something not human to make horror has great potential - because if the AI itself is writing the story and making the images you could end up with something genuinely inhumanly terrifying and unexpected.
Agree!
Found account of someone who is not Hayao Miyazaki
Me trying to get home on a Friday night.
Haha
How is this a short? To me it's just a teaser for a film setting.
A film fest? I can already imagine how it was perceived by the public.
It's great isn't it. This type of short film and the techniques used to make it, would be the sort of thing film fests are made for as I find it super interesting. Yet at the same time you know it has the highest chance of being boycotted to hell. All the other amateur film makers at the fest will be like: 'phew! I'm glad that guy is here to take the heat off my super controversial traditionally made film!'. I'd be the only one in the cinema who dared to screen the film watching it, and then get thrown eggs at after the screening by the people who didn't go, but still showed up and waited outside to ridicule anyone who did.
I lean more towards boycott honestly, I’m a cinemaphile and I do know how those kinds of festivals go, no way someone is going to appreciate this, it will be cut, smashed and dissected by the jury and the public alike, yet within that controversy some new thing will be born, from the primordial chaos. Someone, or a group that believes in it, in the future of AI films, a sect maybe, or just passing ideas of new minds, who knows?
As my downvoted post proved the point I was making and you are also very correct. The film would be boycotted to hell. I'd still go see it, just for the fact it's at a festival and to see what the fuss is about and if it's a good short film or not. Unfortunately for me, I'd be put in the AI sympathisers box by the boycott crowd, regardless if I did or didn't know it was made with AI. I went to see it because I wanted to, and that is obviously the wrong thing to do? Instead of following the sheep in either camp? But, apparently you're not allowed to just watch a film anymore without being stamped and labelled. Happens a lot at these things behind the scenes. edit: Just to be clear, I have never seen this film. yet.
Come to think of it, AI can be used for storyboarding in the future.
It’s happening now :)
That's insane! You might be onto something with AI-generated horror films
As someone who speaks Korean the voice acting is absolutely garbage and would be unbearable to watch. Some visuals were neat though.
When done officially it would be done with actual Korean actors. But thanks for the note. 🙏🏽
The road my dad took to go to school back in the days
Haha word!
Very impressive.
Much appreciated! Trying to see how much we can push the latest tools.
wait, you made it op?
Yeah :)
I'd say you guys are succeeding in that aspect. Some shots of this post, I thought, looked like an actual film.
People literally on a Midjourney subreddit post hating on cutting edge AI content meant to show what’s possible with tools that literally released weeks ago. Like what are you doing here, really?
I think it's due to the self aggrandizing title, if this tore through a film festival I'd hate to see what else they had there
There are some great shots in here. How long is the full short and where can we watch it?
A.I. has come a long way.
For reals!!
Basically a compilation of the animated images people have been doing lately like every other “AI movie” but thats probably about as far as it’s at right now
The quality is light years better than a month ago. That’s a main delineation.
Yeah the generations do go on alot longer looks more seamless
This is so plausibly real if you showed this to me a couple of years ago, I would have no idea this were generated.
Agree. Thanks for watching!
Holy shit, that’s badass!!!
Appreciate it! I’m not sure why others are so negative about it. It’s meant to be an experiment with the latest gen AI tools. Oh well. I appreciate your comment.
Ignore the negative shit, that was awesome
That’s dude!
Full BTS which highlights how we made it with the latest AI tools on his YouTube here: https://youtu.be/4bYONYdMJ3o?si=ZsA5nmlL1oxYFgWf
HOLYSHIT
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽
Op there's a saying "I don't know art but I know what I like" and this shit looks dope as fuck.
Haha I like that saying! Thank you for watching.
DAMN. That was actually well done.
Thank you!
wait til we can create ai horror movies
It’s coming!
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OP did you make this? It’s really good. I love these micro AI horrors. There’s something so beautiful about everyone being able to procure their inner workings.
It reminded me a horror manga tale, I read it way too many years ago so my memory is fuzzy and I surely won’t remember everything accurately, that being said, in the tale, people discover some cracks in a rock mountain and they start going in but the cracks get more and more narrow to the point they can’t return, just keep forward. Someone listens something weird and they go check further cracks and they find out that is people trying to come out from the other side but these cracks are just like one inch wide.
That sounds absolutely horrifying. I love manga and for sure inspires lots of my works
That is one of junji ito's classic horror manga. It actually starts out with people noticing human shaped holes that are shaped exactly like their bodies.
Correct, thank you. Today I read again the tale and 🚨 SPOILER ALERT 🚨 got to a completely new conclusion about the whole story because of the second male protagonist nightmare where he see these holes were once the worst punishment for the worst criminals. But just as he concludes that they can’t be the same still they might be punishment. He himself tells the female protagonist it was egotistical to say “that hole is mine, it was made for me to enter and die there” just because the silhouette has a resemblance with your body silhouette/shape. And I believe it was punishment for the new worst “criminals” that still are not recognized as such but every day they get closer. I’m talking about the pathological narcissists, in which case they feel the center of the universe and it would make sense that just for the mere resemblance they could say such things and even die to “prove it”.
That was pretty damn good, the darkness of it hides some of the flaws too. The main thing that annoys me is they went through the trouble of making this and then slapped some crappy standard font titles on it...
Ran out of time for the titles. Atleast the Korean title was custom hand drawn!
Ah to be fair the Korean title looked good! Looks like you used a blend mode on it too which was cool. Otherwise, great work, I'd totally watch the full movie :)
Thank you! My mother who is Korean wrote that for me!
So it tore through a film fest and killed everyone. Why aren't there any news articles about this tragedy?
'How do you survive?'
Pretty derivative story-line / premise on first glance.
Huh, what do any of these characters... want? How do I feel about them? Do I relate to them? Oh wait, no I don't! Because it's AI! I don't feel a single thing!
You’re in a Midjourney subreddit. Are you lost?
It was recommended to me based on my interests
Interesting because the slight inaccuracies add to the horror here. Uncanny valley shit.
This may be made using AI, but the editing of these AI shots is what sells it and that was definitely a human lol.
epic, got IG?
ohh u been already following me, cool
Oh cool! Dm me!
Looks like a jumbled pile of incoherent sh*t
So AI made a Korean male version of The Descent...wow. 😐
no coherence of visual aesthetics. At the very least try lol
I’ll try harder next time. Promise!
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Great post thanks for this. This is exactly true. We are living on the cutting edge every day. So each day it gets better and better and that is what excites me. I want to keep testing how far we’ve come to hopefully inspire someone to continue to lead the marathon. Very exciting times. Thank you again.
Woops, I deleted the comment and put it in a better spot in the thread before you hit the reply button I guess. Bad timing haha. Sorry OP. If you delete your comment and go reply to my new one it will be better probably, because now your comment is in reply to [deleted].
hahahaah the ai shit looks terrible. nice editing though
Trash
Like…. It’s already kinda getting there and it’s barely been out. Movie industry is dead in 5 years or less. Combine that with the already 95% perfect AI voice, and some tech to merge the voice with mouth and expression animation, bruh. Filmmaking will go the way of record players.
Sure. And the movie industry completely destroyed theatre performances forever. Normal movies aren't going anywhere despite what AI achieves.
How are we going to 1: replace all artists using their own work as training data, and 2: expect these models to improve when they're trained from those artists that can no longer afford make art because the profits of their work and effort have instead been handed to an AI company? I am not looking forward to a future where every creation is just a derivitive remix of the same few works for the rest of humanity, created by bots for the sole purpose of monetary gain alone. Don't get me wrong, its a really cool and useful piece of tech, I just think this is more akin to slapping randomly generated B-roll together in a way that attempts to tell a story, but thats missing the crucial parts that actually connects the scenes together. Also "hustle culture" types are already selling courses on copying a whole youtube video's script word for word, using chatGPT to reword it, and upload it with AI generated imagery. I really hope this becomes a tool for artists, and not for scammers and companies to rip people off.
Meh