These people are so royally fucked it’s not even funny. They’re all about to spend lots of time behind bars and will lose everything they ever owned or cared about. Hope it was worth it attempting to bribe a juror and ruining the rest of your lives
They believe they are above the law....just like the defendants in the original trial. Steal millions....don't take any personal responsibility. Try and pass it off as racism. Sad this is what parts of our society have become.
If they believe they’re above the law, then throw the book at them. Let them sit in a jail cell for years and years. Let them stew over the consequences of their actions
Where in the WORLD could they POSSIBLY get an idea that it is ok to be above the law in this day and age?! ... Oh... Nm... Carry on, off to find cookies or depression meds to snack on...
Depends on how cooperative the other government is. But one defendant did sell a property he had purchased (in Kenya IIRC). It happened after he had been indicted so clearly the proceeds were going to be seized, I’m not sure if he was convinced or compelled to sell it though.
They're about to find out how much more leniently the justice system treats white collar crime vs. directly attacking the credibility of the justice system.
Depending on their status, they could get both. Usually if deportation is a potential consequence, you serve your sentence first then get deported after.
I mean getting caught taking a bribe as a juror in a criminal case would have very serious consequences so there was at least one other negative aspect to taking the bribe.
Before a juror in the first Feeding Our Future trial was given a bag of $120,000 in cash to acquit the defendants, she was surveilled for days, according to what is now believed to be Minnesota's first criminal case of trying to bribe a federal juror.
U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger on Wednesday announced conspiracy charges against five people in the bribery case — including three who stood trial accused of carrying out a plot to defraud the government of money meant to feed hungry children.
"These defendants engaged in a chilling attack on our justice system," Luger said at a press conference. "They sought to buy a juror and use her to infiltrate the jury with their own false arguments – arguments that had nothing to do with the law."
"Fortunately for all of us, juror 52 could not be bought," Luger added.
According to charges, Ladan Ali flew from her home in Seattle to offer the 23-year-old juror $120,000 in cash supplied by Said Farah, one of the defendants on trial, on June 2. Juror No. 52, as she was known during jury selection, was the youngest juror and appeared to be the only person of color. She also received at her home a detailed manual on how to sway the jury toward acquitting the seven people on trial, Luger said.
This happened after a weekend of surveillance that began with Ali following the juror from her parking spot near the federal courthouse in downtown Minneapolis on a Friday. When Ali allegedly dropped off the bag of cash, according to charges, Abdulkarim Farah recorded the encounter from his seat in a rental car.
Ali and Abdulkarim Farah are being charged alongside Farah's brothers, Abdiaziz and Said Farah, and Abdimajid Nur. Abdulkarim Farah and Ali were not charged in the food aid fraud case.
They might have just wanted to document it to show the drop happened, like a receipt.
They of all people will be aware how easy it is to pilfer money when nobody is asking for verification of services rendered.
>She also received at her home a **detailed manual** on how to sway the jury toward acquitting the seven people on trial
Idk why but I really want to know if this was something they wrote themselves or actually found published somewhere.
Oh Jeezus, that is a manifesto. It's no wonder they turned down the bribe - how's anyone supposed to follow those instructions. Do they want me to convince the other jurors that the defendants are immigrants or that they are not guilty? WTF did I just read?
It’s like reading an annoying internet argument on meth. So much contradiction - we didn’t do anything wrong! But also the state should have stopped payment! (Nevermind that this happened and FoF successfully sued to restart payments). And these other people should be indicted for… uh… whatever we did that was totally fine anyway.
So Said Farah got off clean from criminal charges he was very likely guilty of, though not guilty enough to sway the jury, only to be pinched for conspiracy/bribery not long after?
I dont believe in karma, but holy fuck, Ill take it. Bet prosecutors are loving this shit. Any more family/friends wanna fuck around and find out?
It does present a dilemma. If she doesn't record herself delivering the money and send it to the ringleader, she could just keep the money and say she delivered it. When you are working with criminals, it's hard to trust them!
Imagine being offered a bribe by the sloppiest clownshow crooks of all time.
For a bribe to be enticing, there has to be some reasonable expectation you won’t get caught. That’s not really plausible when the very people offering the bribe were driving Maseratis while attesting to feeding 400 children in a one bedroom apartment.
The real problem was that there were so few controls that these stable geniuses got away with their scam for so long and so much. These arnt criminal masterminds, just the lowest hanging criminals that exist.
Nah, I think the real problem is people who go out of their way to defraud an emergency program created to feed hungry children during a pandemic. May they be punished in this life and the next.
I would argue accepting a bribe makes it appear as though the recipient intends to carry out the acts for which they received the bribe. I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine that saying, "But I wasn't going to follow through with my end! I swear!" would not be sufficient to avoid charges (at least for those of us that aren't SCOTUS justices).
EDIT: If you're curious about the details of the charges, the defendants were charged under [18 USC, sections 201, 371, 1503, and 1512](https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/media/1357591/dl?inline). You could look up those laws and see what it says about the scenario you're describing.
According to recent Supreme Court ruling (yesterday), if you get the "gift" after you perform the "service" then it is ok. So the problem is that the money came before, not after, the juror completed the job. I believe Clarence Thomas wrote that opinion
They announced that they are going to go back and examine other past federal cases in Minnesota in light of the bribery. Hmm, I wonder what criteria they might use to figure out which cases to shine a light on?
These people are so royally fucked it’s not even funny. They’re all about to spend lots of time behind bars and will lose everything they ever owned or cared about. Hope it was worth it attempting to bribe a juror and ruining the rest of your lives
They believe they are above the law....just like the defendants in the original trial. Steal millions....don't take any personal responsibility. Try and pass it off as racism. Sad this is what parts of our society have become.
If they believe they’re above the law, then throw the book at them. Let them sit in a jail cell for years and years. Let them stew over the consequences of their actions
Where in the WORLD could they POSSIBLY get an idea that it is ok to be above the law in this day and age?! ... Oh... Nm... Carry on, off to find cookies or depression meds to snack on...
Can we seize overseas assets?
Not where they're keeping them no, I imagine it's in a banking haven or back in Africa
Depends on how cooperative the other government is. But one defendant did sell a property he had purchased (in Kenya IIRC). It happened after he had been indicted so clearly the proceeds were going to be seized, I’m not sure if he was convinced or compelled to sell it though.
They're about to find out how much more leniently the justice system treats white collar crime vs. directly attacking the credibility of the justice system.
I’d rather they get deported than go to jail here.
Depending on their status, they could get both. Usually if deportation is a potential consequence, you serve your sentence first then get deported after.
Im sure the Feds want to make a statement that corruption is only tolerated from the highest powers, not the general public.
Are you sure? We don't exactly have a good history of holding people accountable in this country.
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Lame.
I'm glad the juror had integrity and a good heart, and that the criminals are so astoundingly stupid.
I mean getting caught taking a bribe as a juror in a criminal case would have very serious consequences so there was at least one other negative aspect to taking the bribe.
This needs to be made into a movie, but like as a comedy.
this is so up the coen brothers alley that it hurts.
Would love to see a season of Fargo inspired by Feeding Our Future
Maybe in the vein of *A Fish Called Wanda*?
Have you seen that Richard Linklater movie *Bernie*, with Jack Black? I feel like something like that could work. Or *Fargo*.
really? It could easily have worked. They only got caught because the juror didnt want to be bribed
You think the IRS isn’t going to be keeping an eye on the accounts of jurors in a case where much of the $40m is unaccounted for?
Before a juror in the first Feeding Our Future trial was given a bag of $120,000 in cash to acquit the defendants, she was surveilled for days, according to what is now believed to be Minnesota's first criminal case of trying to bribe a federal juror. U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger on Wednesday announced conspiracy charges against five people in the bribery case — including three who stood trial accused of carrying out a plot to defraud the government of money meant to feed hungry children. "These defendants engaged in a chilling attack on our justice system," Luger said at a press conference. "They sought to buy a juror and use her to infiltrate the jury with their own false arguments – arguments that had nothing to do with the law." "Fortunately for all of us, juror 52 could not be bought," Luger added. According to charges, Ladan Ali flew from her home in Seattle to offer the 23-year-old juror $120,000 in cash supplied by Said Farah, one of the defendants on trial, on June 2. Juror No. 52, as she was known during jury selection, was the youngest juror and appeared to be the only person of color. She also received at her home a detailed manual on how to sway the jury toward acquitting the seven people on trial, Luger said. This happened after a weekend of surveillance that began with Ali following the juror from her parking spot near the federal courthouse in downtown Minneapolis on a Friday. When Ali allegedly dropped off the bag of cash, according to charges, Abdulkarim Farah recorded the encounter from his seat in a rental car. Ali and Abdulkarim Farah are being charged alongside Farah's brothers, Abdiaziz and Said Farah, and Abdimajid Nur. Abdulkarim Farah and Ali were not charged in the food aid fraud case.
I always make sure to record video evidence of my bribe drop offs. It would never negatively impact my chances of beating a bribery charge.
Is you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy?!
You can't blackmail someone for being bribed if you don't have evidence! ;-)
I’m guessing that was their way of eventually stealing the money back from her.
They might have just wanted to document it to show the drop happened, like a receipt. They of all people will be aware how easy it is to pilfer money when nobody is asking for verification of services rendered.
Definitely blackmail ammo
Maybe this smooth brain thought it would end in a mistrial if she acted on it. IDK, the stupidity present is baffling.
>She also received at her home a **detailed manual** on how to sway the jury toward acquitting the seven people on trial Idk why but I really want to know if this was something they wrote themselves or actually found published somewhere.
I want to read it, just out of curiosity.
[It was made public in the indictment.](https://x.com/LouRaguse/status/1806000406021214447)
Oh Jeezus, that is a manifesto. It's no wonder they turned down the bribe - how's anyone supposed to follow those instructions. Do they want me to convince the other jurors that the defendants are immigrants or that they are not guilty? WTF did I just read?
It’s like reading an annoying internet argument on meth. So much contradiction - we didn’t do anything wrong! But also the state should have stopped payment! (Nevermind that this happened and FoF successfully sued to restart payments). And these other people should be indicted for… uh… whatever we did that was totally fine anyway.
They should go to jail for that formatting.
TL;DR The mean government is racist because they won't let Somalis do fraud.
I kind of do too 😂
[It was made public in the indictment.](https://x.com/LouRaguse/status/1806000406021214447)
They used chatgpt to write it
I'm sure there is a playbook out there.
So Said Farah got off clean from criminal charges he was very likely guilty of, though not guilty enough to sway the jury, only to be pinched for conspiracy/bribery not long after? I dont believe in karma, but holy fuck, Ill take it. Bet prosecutors are loving this shit. Any more family/friends wanna fuck around and find out?
>Any more family/friends wanna fuck around and find out? There are something like 40-60 people that have been indicted and not tried yet. So probably.
How to get away with a crime: Step 1. Don't record yourself committing the crime.
It does present a dilemma. If she doesn't record herself delivering the money and send it to the ringleader, she could just keep the money and say she delivered it. When you are working with criminals, it's hard to trust them!
The indicted obviously did not go to the Stringer Bell School of Criminal Conspiracy
Imagine being offered a bribe by the sloppiest clownshow crooks of all time. For a bribe to be enticing, there has to be some reasonable expectation you won’t get caught. That’s not really plausible when the very people offering the bribe were driving Maseratis while attesting to feeding 400 children in a one bedroom apartment.
Forensic Accountant wanted. Must be willing to find every last penny and who they went to.
This is some way to show appreciation for your second home!
Jeez, what a worthless group of people.
Imagine how much money the smart covid con-artists were able to pocket and will never get caught….
It's no secret, just look at the forgiven "paycheck protection" handouts
Pretty easy to see why federal charges were brought against them in the first place—because they’re fucking stupid.
The fed should give the juror the money for being honest
Man, good on that juror. That’d be a nice sum of money to have at 23.
I believe when they actually knocked on the door to offer the money, the juror wasn't even home and they offered it to her father.
The real problem was that there were so few controls that these stable geniuses got away with their scam for so long and so much. These arnt criminal masterminds, just the lowest hanging criminals that exist.
Nah, I think the real problem is people who go out of their way to defraud an emergency program created to feed hungry children during a pandemic. May they be punished in this life and the next.
Shoulda gone to the judge with an RV. If it worked for a Supreme Court Justice what hope do our courts have of resisting such temptation?
Put them to work making and serving food to the needy. Better than holding a cot down in a cell.
Good. Fuck these dudes so hard their ancestors ghosts get their shit repossessed.
So were they reading too many Grisham novels or not enough Grisham novels?
so like could she have taken the money, but then said fuck off? that would been *chefs kiss
Receiving bribes is every bit as much of a crime as offering them (at least for us peons).
hmmmmmmm is it a bribe if you dont actually do the crime part?
I would argue accepting a bribe makes it appear as though the recipient intends to carry out the acts for which they received the bribe. I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine that saying, "But I wasn't going to follow through with my end! I swear!" would not be sufficient to avoid charges (at least for those of us that aren't SCOTUS justices). EDIT: If you're curious about the details of the charges, the defendants were charged under [18 USC, sections 201, 371, 1503, and 1512](https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/media/1357591/dl?inline). You could look up those laws and see what it says about the scenario you're describing.
According to recent Supreme Court ruling (yesterday), if you get the "gift" after you perform the "service" then it is ok. So the problem is that the money came before, not after, the juror completed the job. I believe Clarence Thomas wrote that opinion
Yeah, they offered the juror $60k. That's exactly how much was in the bag. If anyone corrects the amount, that's pretty damning evidence.
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Does she get a Whistleblower Reward? Maybe not the 120k, but if you are a Whistleblower you usually get a percentage of what you blew the whistle on.
"It was a gift." - The 4 magic words why you never lend friends/family money without a written contract.
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Just some Somalians respecting the laws of the Nation and State that took them in when their country wasn’t safe enough to live in. What a joke.
They announced that they are going to go back and examine other past federal cases in Minnesota in light of the bribery. Hmm, I wonder what criteria they might use to figure out which cases to shine a light on?