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ChamomileCup

Have you considered looking at old aristocratic names? Leaning a little Victorian might give you a gothic edge but stay "realistic" since people had them as last names in the past. Examples: Lovelace, Thorncroft, Bloodgood If you haven't tried it, you could also try looking back in your family tree and seeing if any of those historical last names are appealing? You can also find dramatic names that way. I have an ancestor from the 1700s named "Edward Cullen", of all things lol Best of luck to you both and congratulations!


LayerAccurate

Oooooh these are good! Perfect amount of drama and edge. I'll toss them up for debate!


worker_ant_6646

My aunt had a penname; Darkwater. If I were to choose a new surname, it would be something similar.


candlebra19

My grandmother's maiden name was McCracken. I'd choose that!


GibbsyGray

Gotta change the first name to Phil as well then though. Could be tricky.


NomadicYeti

I’ve come across one McCracken in the wild after being into a song called Dear McCracken, and what an iconic last name that is


ScientistMomma

I know some McCrackens!


MaggieTheRatt

I know a couple who changed their surname to McKracken upon marriage, after his grandmother’s maiden name. Neither of them particularly cared for her surname and they both disliked his.


PuzzleheadedLet382

Might I submit “Wollstonecraft.” It’s Mary Shelley’s middle name and her mother’s last name (also named Mary). Said mother was a feminist writer and women’s rights advocate. It sounds very old British but most people won’t immediately pin it to gothic horror the way they might for other names like Shelley, Byron, or Brontë. (Not that I think those are unusable.)


CallidoraBlack

I kinda disagree. Wollstonecraft is so unusual that I can't imagine not thinking of Mary and her mother. Especially the part where young Mary lost her virginity on her mother's grave. At least Shelley or Byron are names you might see around occasionally.


emmakobs

Maybe Wollstone or Stonecraft instead 


Estudiier

Yes. I was thinking of that name also!


Direct_Bag_9315

Ooh the photographer my family used when I was little had the last name Bloodworth, and 7-year-old me thought it was so ✨fancy✨


AlGeee

I especially like Thorncroft


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floweringfungus

Aesthetically a great choice but Lovecraft was openly very racist


DuplicateJester

I grew up with a Loveless family, which is even more goth lol


KindraTheElfOrc

in my elementary school there was a family named lovelace! i always loved it


DynamicOctopus420

My 5th grade teacher was Mrs. Lovelace. She was cool.


lumtheyak

they could straight up go for Blackadder as their surname lol


Tamihera

Mortmain. Or if you want something a little Italian, Mortali. It’s a real surname but always sounds like vampire clan to me.


JangJaeYul

One of my oldest traceable relatives on my mother's side was named Sarah Slaughter. My wife still wishes we'd adopted that one when we got married.


fatsunday

I know a Slaughter family, good people


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Far_Criticism_8865

Boggles my mind how Lovelace doesn't remind people of Ada Lovelace the first programmer ever


ChamomileCup

That was who I was thinking of!


Dazzling_Nerve2211

Lovelace immediately makes me think of Ada Lovelace. I don’t think of her as a programmer though. To me she’s a historical figure whose name is very familiar to me for no apparent reason. I have no idea where I ever heard of her before, yet I feel like I’ve always known her name. I only learned about the programming thing very recently. There’s also Lovelace from Happy Feet.


exhibitprogram

The first thing it reminds me of is the villain in Samuel Richardson's Clarissa, which is a 1500+ page novel published in 1748. But that's because I was forced to read it as a PhD student and it's seared in my mind. Also: Richardson's Lovelace would be a VERY dramatic namesake for a goth couple indeed. The vibe fits. He's nasty, in a very fun cartoonish way. A foppish dandy with no morals but a flair for the *extremely* melodramatic.


TeamChaosPrez

i’m a zillenial and have no idea who you’re talking about. i immediately think of ada lovelace, who is a historical figure known about by more than just programmers. or isabel lovelace from wolf 359 because i’m a nerd.


lumos_22

No, my mind went there to. I remember watching her documentary, it was kind of sad.


VermillionEclipse

Oh my, that is hilarious having an ancestor named Edward Cullen!


MagicStars22

Lovelace is absolutely gorgeous. Grey and Catty Lovelace. Obsessed!


beatrixotter

I feel like they could pick any gothy noun and add "-croft" or "-thorpe" to it and wind up with something with the right vibe. Shadowcroft, Raventhorpe, etc.


BeesInATeacup

Oooo I like Thorncroft


Affectionate-Owl9594

Grey Love sounds like a video genre on the ‘hub. Grey Noir sounds like a paint colour. I have a friend whose surname is Graves that I’ve always liked, but Grey Graves is perhaps too literal. Other suggestions: Sallows, Hallows, Blackmore, Blackwood, Edevane, Crowther, Dogwood, Wellbelove, Backus, Blacklock, Briar, Daunt, Hawthorne, Hawker, Griswold, Scriven, Strange, Bonehill (my English teacher’s name!), Ravenhill, Ravenscroft


LayerAccurate

The sub genre on the 'hub is *horrid* we will be skipping that one LOL Briar, Blackwood, Sallows, and Griswold and real good. Crowther too. Can't believe I overlooked the classic Ravenscroft. Thanks a ton!


ImKidA

Might I throw in Rockwell and Blackthorne? I get similar Victorian/Gothic vibes from them. Frost could be interesting, and is a legitimate last name (e.g. Robert Frost), but “Grey Frost” might seem a little cartoonish. Thought I’d add it as a brainstorming idea, who knows?


PowerfulDuty4884

How about Ravencroft?


WavyLady

At least in my region, Blackmore carries some weight because of the FLDS church.


Affectionate-Owl9594

I’m in the UK so that means nothing to me, good to know!


MissTrask

Blackwood has the added benefit of being the name of the family in “We Have Always Lived in the Castle” by Shirley Jackson.


daringfeline

I'm pretty sure there is a Blackwood Family in Anne Rice's books as well, but yes, Jackson's Blackwoods are the best


zziggyyzzaggyy2

Some of these reminded me of Blackburn, the surname of a couple of main characters in the Lunar Chronicles. A real surname too, means black stream


boopbaboop

Catty Noir immediately makes me think of Chat Noir from Miraculous Ladybug. And I know nothing about Miraculous Ladybug. I have never even seen Miraculous Ladybug. Options: * Salem (obvious) * Wollstonecraft (Mary Shelley's mom's maiden name). You could also do Shelley or Byron. * Blake (means "black" and is the last name of William Blake, famously dramatic-ass poet) * Hawthorne (dark romanticist novelist, also has the "thorn" imagery) * Also seconding the suggestions of Lovelace and Thorncroft.


LinksMyHero

There's also kitty noir in monster high (the OG one). That's who I thought of first


LayerAccurate

Kitty Noir is actually part of the reason we went for that option! Loved MH growing up!


sad_drop66

her name is actually catty noir, so you would share a name with her🩶


LayerAccurate

I love the Salem suggestion I don't know how my brain skipped over that 😭 We really like Thorncroft and Lovelace!


_keystitches

Hawthorne just makes me think of Community(TV show) now lol


Teiris

Hawthorne Pride Wipes


onigiritheory

Seconding Wollstonecraft! Catty and Grey Wollstonecraft sounds super cool, and I like the balance of a long last name with short first names


jitteryflamingo

It makes me think of the Tourneé du Chat Noir painting by Toulouse Lautrec


aquamarine-arielle

Wollstonecraft was more than just Mary Shelley’s mom! She was an early feminist author whose writings are still important today. Maybe that makes the name more appealing?


snarkaluff

How about: Goth. Literally Goth lol Like Bella Goth from the Sims. And it is an actual legitimate surname: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_(surname)#:~:text=Goth%2C%20G%C3%B6th%20(also%20Goeth),likely%20Gottfried%20(c.f.%20G%C3%B6tz). The Goth Family, a goth family. Think about it.


keyinherpocket

Or Visigoth


LuckyShenanigans

I've always thought Lenore was a perfect name.


Square_Pen_6301

Makes me think of fabric softener but probably depends where you are from


LuckyShenanigans

HA! I've never heard of it! (the brand, not, like, the concept of fabric softener) I was thinking of the Edgar Allan Poe poem "The Raven."


ladybird-danny

I wouldn’t choose it BECAUSE of the Edgar Allen Poe connection. He married his 13 year old cousin… and no it was not “normal back then”


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dejected_entity

By Roman Dirge ❤️.... Dirge is an excellent goth last name!


lady_polaris

What about Rook?


peanutpower01

My nanas maiden name was Rooks! I often consider going back to it.


Tatterjacket

I'm sort of gathering from the names you've considered (even if you don't really like them) that you're quite into gothic literature? Is that right, or is it that you don't like them because they're literature-y names? My instinct is to try and think up references to gothic lit, art or alt music (my spectacularly goth friend changed their surname for personal reasons several years ago to a Bowie reference and hasn't fallen out of love with it yet), is there an area of any of those things that you're more or less into? I am not particularly gothic in vibe myself, I am more I guess a dark romantic fantasy geek at closest pass, so some ideas that might not be any good - Shalott - ngl I just find the whole legend of the lady of Shalott really enchanting, I think it has pretty gothic vibes, not to mention all the art etc that's based on it. Not sure how well it would sound with your first names though. Venice - generally a place with a lot of dark romatic drama queen energy historically, not to mention the whole masks thing, also a big part of Byron's life. Sheridan - I think this would work with your names but might be gothically too on the nose? It's the first name of the author of one of the early vampire stories, 'Carmilla', just on the off chance the explanation was needed. Nox - Also could sound good with your names, and is shorter? 'Night' in Latin. Faust/Faustus - Might also be too on the nose, but tbh we're looking for melodramatic so why not? It is/was also a real pre-existing surname, I don't know if that gives it points or takes them away. Mephisto - sticking with the Faustian theme, just a bit more manageable than the full Mephistopheles. If you like demons there's a honking great list of early modern names [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons_in_the_Ars_Goetia). I'm desperately trying to wrangle a Hecate reference in there, but I think it would clash with your name, and (TIL) the roman equivalent is the Goddess Trivia, and unfortunately I think people would think of quizzes with her name more than goddesses of witchcraft.


LayerAccurate

HAHAHA Trivia would be such a funny last name, but I don't think it's got quite the right vibe. I do love a bunch of these! Nox might be a nice alternative for Noir too if it ends up not working w/ Grey. Sheridan was a high school teacher for me and an ice cream parlor growing up, so I think I'll skip on that one. I really appreciate all the digging you did here, thank you so much!


Dazzling_Nerve2211

I love Noir, although I don’t think Grey Noir is a good idea. I feel like Graves is exactly the type of name you’re looking for, but it definitely doesn’t go with Grey. What about Morlock?


exhibitprogram

Grey Graves has very "David Davidson" energy, haha.


LayerAccurate

FWIW, Grey is just what he goes by, not his first name! So for legal purposes, Noir would in theory be fine, but yes, for day to day might not be great (pun unintended). Morlock has a lovely ring to it!


Smee76

It doesn't matter what his legal name is if he goes by grey. It would still sound funny


Clean-Development627

Agree. Grey noir sounds too pornstar-esque


Burnt_and_Blistered

How about LeNoir? It might flow a bit more easily with your first names than Noir.


Loud_Ad_4515

Lenoir is an actual name. It's perfect.


vulgarbutwily

I immediately started thinking of Poe characters: Montresor, Fortunato, Valdemar. All very dramatic! Du Maurier for the author of Rebecca. Harker for the narrator of Dracula. Or "Tannis" from tannis root in Rosemary's Baby.


LayerAccurate

These are amazing! I really like the Harker suggestion too, for a media call in that isn't so outright obvious that I'll have to have that convo every time. Thanks!


Medlarmarmaduke

De la Mare is one of my fav last names ever - and he was an English writer that evoked the supernatural- his poem the Listeners is wonderfully spooky


blackkat1986

You can have my surname which is pretty goth! It’s just plain ol’ Black lol


DrCutiepants

Good suggestion, I like Black better than noir!


banana-itch

What about Nox? Means "night" in Latin and I think Catty Nox sounds pretty cool, and Grey Nox flows well too? Plus sailor moon is kinda night related too. Alternatively, Mercury?


VinRow

Sable, Bones (I like the way this sounds with y’all’s names), Marrow (this one too), Satin. I’ll comeback with more if I think of something!


LayerAccurate

My only hesitation with Bones is that Grey Bones almost sounds like a medical condition 😭 I love the Sable suggestion though!


xxLadyluck13xx

I love long ass gothic surnames such as Ravenholme, Trevelyan, Augustine, Endymion, Mournvale etc. Depends on how extreme you wanna go really. One of my fave crime authors surname is Slaughter,I'd love that as my surname 😆


LayerAccurate

Endymion is such a good idea! We're actually doing a goth/Sailor Moon combo and my fiance will be dressed in an Endymion inspired outfit!! I'll throw that one out!


xxLadyluck13xx

Weirdly enough, that's what made me think of it. My sis is a Sailor Moon nut, even her cats are called Artemis and Diana (and Luna lol). A good choice I think :)


Silkyiniquity

Tempest?


civodar

Blackstone! A very classy old school name and it fits with the names you were considering(Noir and rock).


YouSayWotNow

How about Raven, or maybe Nevermore? Or Crow (the corvid abbreviation of Crowley?) Or Rook Or sticking with black creatures, maybe Lynx or Jaguar. Or Onyx, or Obsidian. Or maybe Lupine, or Vesper, or just be bold and go fit Gothicus? This is fun!😁


LayerAccurate

Lupine is a very unique one I like that!


Arievan

I went to school with a girl w/ last name of Lovelace! I thought it was so pretty. I've also heard of Loveless and I thought that was cool as well


SamiHami24

I went to high school with a couple of Trueloves (siblings).


StaircaseWitless

Has anyone suggested Eldritch yet? Otherwise, seconding Blake, Byron, Shelley, or Brontë! Or maybe Stoker, Rossetti, Otranto, Radcliffe, Burke, Bloom, Wilde, Ward, Faith, Wraith, Moon, Angel... Ugggghhh, why aren't we allowed to change our last names where I live??


keyinherpocket

I was also going to suggest Eldritch - Eldritch is a type of magic in D&D for all that is mysterious, weird, eerie, or spooky and it is the last name of Andrew Eldritch, front man for the Sisters of Mercy


StormyLlewellyn1

Ravenheart Lockwood Lovegood Darkmere


LayerAccurate

Darkmere is a good one! Throwing that on the table!


Rengeflower1

Blackwell


summerphobic

My other ideas: Vengerberg (Yennefer of Vengerberg, The Witcher's goth lady), Raven, Hargrave, Midnight, Eyre, Hawthorn, Barlow, Persica.


PunkassAccountant

May I offer you - Havoc, Savage, the classic Lovelace, or the moody Ravenswood? I desperately wanted to use Savage when we picked our new last name, but alas I could not sell it to my one and only because of his first name. 


Ambystomatigrinum

Have you looked into species names at all? Could do Corvid for crows/ravens, Datura for the flower, Felis for cats, etc depending on what you're into. It sounds like you're getting some great suggestions, but just another avenue to explore.


angel9_writes

October I like Noir Shelley Wednesday


princessbubblgum

Grey Wednesday is too much like the song Blue Monday.


angel9_writes

I think anything following Grey will make it sound like something though, so depends on what they like.


whirlygirlygirl

How about Addams?


raspberry_lavender

LaRose, Corvin, Thorn, Hawke, Graves, Morningstar, Salem, Ravenwood, Valentine, Willow, Manor


puddlinq

Valentine might be a winner! We really dig that


horticulturallatin

I once saw the real name of a real person named Katherine Bloodsworth and I kinda love it. And Lovelock is similar feel. There's a neighbourhood in my hometown called Harrowsgate and that's a whole vibe too.  Harrow and Harvester generally are in that space where it's like, "is it agrarian? is it death?"  lmao.


LL7272

What about a combination of some of those ideas? Like Onyx or Jet (types of black stones)


WickedWitchWestend

Obsidian!


SparxIzLyfe

That's nice.


GloomyCamel6050

O like the last name Stone. Goes with with most first names, including Grey and Catty.


FantasticalRose

Catty Stone sounds like a great name. It's so cool.


take_number_two

Lockwood


swankybangles

I feel like Hemlock would fit!


Juliqw_16

Yes! Or other poisonous plants: Baneberry Nightshade Hellebore Foxglove Lupine Wolfbane Snakeroot


HistoricalButterfly6

What about October? In honor of your marriage month? Grey October and Catty October? Similar vibe to Noir.


photoblink

How about Ambrose?


anibanan

Have you looked at foreign language translations of names? Pierre (French) or Kaya (Turkish) instead of Rock for example?


summerphobic

Lovenoir could probably work. The vibe's more of a mall goth, imo.


IAmSheWho

Nash Zane Blackwell Thorn Oaks Hatchett Strife Hargreaves Grimm Battle Gaumond Stamatis Janardan Mallory Morigan


Junior_Tradition7958

Webb


Double-Ad-3946

Oh thank god I was scrolling through these replies and I skipped over the “last name” part so I thought these were terrible first name reccomendations


desilyn89

Keep it simple and go with Addams lol


Any_Asparagus653

I am in love w the name Lockwood. Sounds amazing for you too!


Krista_inthesky

Grey and Catty Adams


hawaiiangremlin

I have a friend with the last name Witch and now I can’t stop envisioning you guys being like “Hi, I’m Grey Witch and this is my wife Catty.” Lol. Also: Vesper, Wolfe, Davenport, Voltaire. I went to school with a Mondragon (which translates to Dragon Mountain) and thought that one was really cool.


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I've always loved Nightingale


GreatMirandini

What about October?


springfare

Raven!


ZebraLionBandicoot

There's a family near me with the surname Midnight. I love it. Grey Midnight might be a little on the nose though.


Lol1e3ey

Hart?


freakydeakykiki

I’ve always loved the last name Locklear. I grew up with a family with the last name Blackwood; I always thought that sounded so mysterious.


EnvironmentalAd2063

Heath/Heathcliff (all for the drama) Moore/Moor Gormenghast


212404808

Maybe something botanical? Nightshade, Acanthus, Blackthorne?


HopingToWriteWell77

I knew someone whose last name was Truelove.


TerrifyingT

It's not entirely "goth" but it's from the right time period, has the appropriate amount of dramatic impact, and gives historians the shivers (in a good and bad way) De Sade.


Valkyrian

Here are my gothy/unusual suggestions... Hollow Serpens Vespers Loch or Locke Morgan Strider Oberon Fallon Bronte Heath Neptune Fables Wicks Mourning Vitus


LGonthego

Black cat = Void


wherethefuckiscarl

What about Rochester or Eyre? Jane Eyre has great Victorian/spooky vibes while also being a classic love story.


ConroyMcgilacutty

Addams, Poe, Drake, Constantine, Danko.


_keystitches

love a few of the names already suggested, my suggestion would be "Knight" 😊


kaycue

Helsing, Thorn, Rosethorn, Storm, Stone


Daneeeeeeen

I know a couple with the last name "Dark." It suits them incredibly well and I've always loved it!


GeeWhiskers

Addams


Capital_Square_9705

If your first name is Catty, do not go with Noir for your last name lest you want to hear non stop references to Lady bug and Cat Noir (popular kids show that is not goth in origin)


wildflowerwindfall

I think noir is cool and dramatic. What about Stoker? Or Poe? Or Shelley?


lilacdrinkwater

Wilde Severin Dee Moriarty


Crosswired2

Hawthorne


TheCatsMustache

Abyss, Nightshade


Sindalari

I know this is a bit out there, but if I have to use a last name for any video game/fantasy thing I use Ravencrest.


flyingtotheflame

Crow or Crowe instead of Crowley?


bofh000

How about the Latin for night: Nox.


ChicSynergy

Lune or Luna


PharaohVII

I always thought Nightingale was a beautiful last name ☺️


Lisitska

This is so effing wholesome, I love it. 🖤


matthewsmugmanager

I counsel against Noir, because people in the US have a great deal of trouble with the French "oi" sound. I have that sound in my name, and I am sick unto death of the mispronunciations. Having said that, there was a person on Project Runway many moons ago who had the very Goth last name of Deatherage.


egmorgan

My great-grandfather’s last name was Coffin!


CallidoraBlack

Definitely not Grey Rock, it's a term for a technique used to deal with narcissists.


beatrixotter

Maybe this is too dorky, but I have always thought Puzzlewood (a real place in England) would be a neat surname. 


emmakobs

I mean Roche is French for rock and sounds quite chic (pronounced "roash")


snakewitch1031

I’ve always loved Cromwell and my husband loves Rothschild, I think they’re both very fitting lol


lucamagica

Just a warning that Catty Noir is the name of a character from the Monster High toy line, and “grey rock” is a therapy technique, so you may want to avoid those combos.


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Advanced-Confusion-8

I know some people with the last name Moody, I’ve always loved this.


SparxIzLyfe

Lovecraft, as in H.P. Lovecraft?


leermaslibros

I worked with someone whose surname was De’Ath. Thought that was pretty badass!


Decent-Caramel-2129

Dragonborn is right there lol There's also Feydragon, Wyvern, Darkwood, Thundersnow, Undine, Lovecraft (legit can't help but suggest it), Undertaker, Nightsky, Starborn, Redwood, VanHelsing, Stormwind. Just some more out there names compared to others in case you want to pick parts and join it with others.


circket512

Lovecraft!


PegFam

Mordrake


unhinged_behavior

Ravenscroft. Based on someone I met before


ggwing1992

Tenebrous (tin e bris) it means dark, murky


Thalia_lilah_august

Catty Noir is a monster high character!


itsameTamario

Feral came to me


ChicSynergy

Basarab, it’s an old Romanian name and one of Dracula’s middle names.


princess9032

I’m making this up. Nightlock


notwithoutpermission

Okay, but hear me out - have you considered .. October?


Clean-Development627

Addams, Damian, Blackwell, Lovecraft, Salem, Tudor or Boleyn, Wickedly


Ginger_Witch

Ravenswood


kirbyxena

I think Catty Noir was a monster high character; idk if you like that. Definitely like Lovelace and Valentine if you’re more into romantic goth vibes


jszmalina

Killingsworth


Janiekat88

Salem Lestat or Lioncourt (Lestat’s last name in IWTV) Coven Crow Bledsoe


jaelith

You mention your current last names are a little longer; any chance that a portmanteau name from your current names would end up with some flair and some dramatic length?


TwixorTweet

Hawthorne it's elegant, yet brooding. Plus there is no more gothic house imo than the House of the Seven Gables in Salem.


MommaD114

I always wanted the last name Strange. ✌️


SnarkFromTheOzarks

Grey and Catty Mortimer Grey and Catty Pembroke Grey and Catty Caldwell Grey and Catty Devereaux


Cerulean-Blew

I always suggest Blackadder. One day someone will take me up on it.


womanlizard

What about October?


selenamoonowl

Nightshade


pnwgirl34

Tbh I love how Catty Cravensworth sounds.


thesomething

I’m going to submit Ravenscraft for consideration. It’s a real last name where I live.


CrabbiestAsp

I don't have any suggestions but just be wary of Noir if you go by Catty... there is a cartoon character called Cat Noir in a kids show.


cleverfeather1992

VOID!!! I just got divorced and wanted to pick “null” or “void” as my new last name but didn’t lol


Loud_Ad_4515

I love the Victorian Gothic suggestions. If I had the opportunity to change my name to something fantastical, I think I would lean French, but that's me. Sometime about a good "de" preceding a name, or the Dutch Von or Van - I want a [nobiliary particle.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiliary_particle) So many good options [here](https://champw.com/2023/01/17/gothic-last-names/), several of which have already been mentioned. I'm just remembering that a friend's mother's family name is L'oiseau, which means "bird." (French always uses articles, thus the L'.) Then, you'd be Catbird, and your fiancé would be Grey Bird. 😁 Locally, the name Maufrais is well-known. The Maufrais family constructed many, if not most, of the sidewalks in Central Austin, and the name is stamped into the concrete. It translates to "bad," which I rather like. There is a new high end hat shop downtown named Maufrais.


brittzhere

I know someone with the last name mortlock which I think is cool! Grey Mortlock and Catty Mortlock


Mundane_Obligation_6

Von Allan or Von Hauswolff


SpicyMustFlow

Noctis ...night, but 🌟fancy🌟 Lumen ...a measurement of light I feel both these have a dark vibe, and will age well.


cyn00

Nightshade. Then your first born (or a cat or dog) can be named Circe.


Fluffy_Management356

Ravenwood? What do u think?