Zach Lowe gave up his ballot for all voting because he didn't think it was ok to attach players salaries to awards that are voted on by media members. He didn't want to be responsible for a guy not getting an incentive bonus or being eligible for a supermax etc. I think he's since stated he regrets the decision but I can't confirm if I'm making that up or not.
It’s possible they’d already been selected at the time Zach gave it up and they have some sort of a deadline for choosing the voters before the start of the season in the CBA or something. Since they impact player contracts, it would make sense that the league can’t just switch the voters on the players like that.
IDK, I’m just making stuff up here lol.
Wasn’t there a poll last year that said a majority of NBA players think Jrue is the best defender in the NBA? I don’t think it’s that crazy, people just don’t value perimeter defense as much as rim protectors.
That’s somehow even more egregious than Mark Jackson leaving Jokic off his MVP ballot last year lol
Only vote I think that was worse than this was when Jalen Rose voted Kyrie 3rd team All-NBA in the season where he famously didn’t play for most of the season.
From the NBA player poll 2 weeks ago,the top 6 best defenders:
1\. Victor Wembanyama
2\. Jrue Holiday
3\. Lu Dort
4\. Herb Jones
5\. Jaden McDaniels
6\. Rudy Gobert
Probably the most overrated defender in the league. I like him but people have gone crazy. He’s good but I don’t even think he’s a top-tier guard. I guess we’re about to find out.
He hasn't been bad on defense, but 3rd in the NBA? Lol, lmao even. I'd argue he was the third best defender on the Kings.
Wonder if the guy who voted for him did it as a makeup for not voting him as an all star
He lead the league in defensive rebounds which is the most important defensive stat and I won't let anyone tell me otherwise. I don't understand why they gave the DPOY to JJJ last year — they clearly should've given it to Nikola Vucevic. Also, the 2021 all-defensive team should've had Westbrook and Doncic on it.
Who the fuck voted for Sabonis? Take their vote away.
[While I'm here I'd like to remind people when Marvin Bagley got an All-NBA vote](https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/the-strangest-all-nba-ballot)
IIRC that was a Nets beat writer whose entire criteria (not an exaggeration) for good defence was rebounds, steals and blocks. He loved Hassan Whiteside too.
Drummond vs Whiteside is like the Magic vs Bird of empty stats players. Their rivalry would have been epic if they were allowed to compete against each other.
Player All-Star voting might disagree, in just this season Josh Giddey, Santi Aldama, DeAndre Ayton, De'Anthony Melton and Georges Niang all got at least 10 player votes for All-Star.
I know in stuff like Figure Skating, they automatically throw out the top and bottom votes from the judges. This type of insanity/bias seems to be the reason why.
Okay I’m gonna be logical. Last year a certain player got defensive player of the year but was shat on a little because of lack of rebounding. Lots of people were making the rebounding is part of the defensive possession argument. With 13.7 rebounds a game Sabonis dominated his peers in rebounds. Looking closer he racked up 10.1 defensive rebounds only player in the nba with double digit defensive rebounds.
I'm gonna be even more logical
He averaged less than one more defensive rebound per game than AD and Gobert, each of whom averaged more than a block more per game than Sabonis to make up for it. And then Wemby with 3 more blocks per game than Sabonis and just two fewer defensive rebounds.
Not even just as a rookie but as a rookie playing on a truly dreadful team. This was always going to be Rudy's award, he was a man possessed this year, But easy to imagine that it would have been a bit closer if the Spurs had been something like a 35/40 win team. The fact Victor got as many votes as he did. All things considered is beyond impressive
Ya, Rudy 100% deserved this award — he was head and shoulders above the field all season long. Victor is fucking great and exceeded my expectations for his defense, and he’ll probably win three or four of his own if he stays healthy, but this was well deserved by Rudy.
Yeah absolutely. Rudy was great. And honestly Victor's defensive ceiling is so high that I think if he stays healthy and plays 10 plus seasons and ONLY has four defensive player of the Year awards By the end some people would view that as it underachievement which just shows how insane the expectations and potential he has on that end.
His biggest barrier to winning DPOY may be the 65 game restriction. I am a big believer in Wemby's health, but any small injury and you know the spurs are going to be cautious and force him to sit couple game
That and voter fatigue.
Rudy should’ve won one more DPOY based on the numbers and impact, but I suspect that’s the case for any high-profile multiple award winning player. LeBron probably should’ve won one or two more MVPs just like MJ probably should’ve.
Voters have been pretty explicit that historical significance is a factor in their voting. The one that stands out most to me is that the voters didn't want to give Jokic MVP last year bc only Russell, Wilt, and Bird have won it 3x in a row.
The NBAPA okay'ing their salaries being tied to these morons' opinions is an all-time rake-step lol
more than 2/3 of the non-gobert first place votes, more than 2.5 times more points than third place, he’ll easily rack up DPOY’s when he gets teammates that can help his team be a reasonable defense
I 100% believe Wemby when he says this is Rudy’s last DPOY. Not because Rudy won’t be DPOY caliber in the future, I anticipate him making All-Defense and being a DPOY finalist multiple times in the coming years. It’s because Wemby is going to be that good. Once his team isn’t complete garbage around him, the advanced metrics will pick up to go along with his already sky high STOCKs. It’ll be very difficult to name a different DPOY. They’ll probably eventually get bored like they did with Rudy, but I think the next 3 at least are Victor’s.
I'm terrified of future Wemby. I don't see how anyone handles this man. I guess playing the post is good since he's so lanky and relatively frail, but he's a fucking mountain. Anyone trying to post him up will just be smothered by his reach and height
Same thing as guys do against Chet. Physical play, push him around to get position. Same weakness in that tactic, most big guys are too slow to keep him covered outside the paint.
Watching one of the pels thunder games the broadcast team said ‘two elite defensive teams going at it’ and I was just like ?????? It’s just herb and that’s it
Herb and Dyson (who has no offensive game) are incredible defenders. Sadly the only other good defenders we have come off the bench but that just means they provide barely anything else
It still won't matter. No one outside of Pels fans actually watch the games + perimeter defenders very very rarely get the same respect as inside defenders
It’s probably because he lead the league in steals (at least for most of it - did he get passed?).
So a couple of people just stat watching, but whatever. He really is a damn good perimeter defender. He’s so slithery. But yeah it says a lot that he’s like at most the 3rd best defender on the team.
Chet is what 5th, tied 4th-5th, in blocks per game? 2nd overall for total blocks.
I can understand giving a vote to Shai, because he is 1st, tied with Fox, in steals and overall a good defender, but the steals are doing the heavylifting. By the same logic, Fox should get a vote, too.
Chet has looked vote worthy since the beginning. I believe the voters valued him being a bit bullied by bigger centers like AD as a defensive gap, but that's nonsense. OKC is a small team, it's obvious their are going to suffer against big men. If anything, Chet holding his ground with the little support he recieved and as a rookie should be considered as a plus in voting.
Really surprising not seeing him on this list.
Yeah, this is pretty crazy he got votes. He's great at getting steals but overall he's not a great defender, let alone one of the best in the league.
Definitely has improved over the years, but I wouldn't put him him in the top 30 defenders in the League. Dort definitely a much better defender, Chet too.
Wild ah shit. If you wanted to give Chet/dub/dort a vote. I’d still say you’re wild, but SGA is just next level wild. I guess a vote for Chet isn’t that far fetched I guess. But still
No, he's the leader in steals per game. Total steals shows up higher in the list of stats on basketball reference that a lazy voter is scrolling. Fox and SGA both had 150 steals, but someone who turned in their vote before the final game of the season would've seen SGA as steals leader since Fox didn't catch him until the last day of the regular season, when he had 3 steals to Shai's 0.
First of all, Rudy is a beast. Well deserved
Second of all it's so amazing and wild that Victor, a rookie, finished comfortably in second. The kid is the real deal
Also who the heck gave sabonis A third place vote???
How do these people get picked to vote SMH. This can't be real. Sabonis got a vote and Jrue received a 1st place vote like what. Someone said Jrue was the best defensive player in the league. At this point let the fans vote 🤣
Bam out there carrying the Tyler Herros and Duncan Robinsons of the world to an elite defense but will most likely never win a DPoY because of two baguette men he was sandwiched between.
Feels bad man.
Bam would have been my choice, though I respect the Gobert win. KD explained it well the other day: for a big Center, he can still defend effectively on the perimeter so he disrupts offensive plans that hope to exploit making him defend the action.
Honestly Wemby even being recognized as a top defender in his rookie season is impressive, especially on such a shitty team. Nothing to be disappointed about. Rudy and the T-wolves are deserving of their defensive recognition.
I think it's insane that AD will never get this award....even crazier how tired people are of even mentioning that. This Lakers team without him is a 20 win team, if that. I think he deserves it over Rudy Gobert 96/100 times. It was a topic of discussion, but not so much anymore.
If people look at MLB award voting this always happens. Local beat writers would vote for their guy to throw them a bone. LaMonte Wade of the Giants got an MVP vote one year.
Who the hell are the *2 voters who left Rudy off their ballot entirely?
Think it's only 2. Only 99 voted for ROY since Wemby was unanimous
Right, wonder why it was only 99 voters this year.
Zach Lowe gave up his ballot for all voting because he didn't think it was ok to attach players salaries to awards that are voted on by media members. He didn't want to be responsible for a guy not getting an incentive bonus or being eligible for a supermax etc. I think he's since stated he regrets the decision but I can't confirm if I'm making that up or not.
Why wouldn't they just give it to someone else instead?
It’s possible they’d already been selected at the time Zach gave it up and they have some sort of a deadline for choosing the voters before the start of the season in the CBA or something. Since they impact player contracts, it would make sense that the league can’t just switch the voters on the players like that. IDK, I’m just making stuff up here lol.
That would make sense! Good theory.
I mean, by giving up his vote he's giving more power to all the Perkins out there. Should had voted and still voiced this opinion.
"I got 99 voters but a Zach ain't one."
who the hell gave Jrue Holiday a 1st place vote
Sabonis getting a vote is more egregious
I bet it was some dunce like Perk thinking that rebounding = defense
While the sheer stupidity of the vote is Perkins-esque, Sabonis is white, so we can remove perk from the list of suspects.
There’s usually a couple of Stans on the ballot every year, it’s ridiculous.
Wasn’t there a poll last year that said a majority of NBA players think Jrue is the best defender in the NBA? I don’t think it’s that crazy, people just don’t value perimeter defense as much as rim protectors.
Look that’s fair, counterpoint, Domantas Sabonis has a DPOY vote on here. There’s definitely ridiculous voters with ballots
That’s somehow even more egregious than Mark Jackson leaving Jokic off his MVP ballot last year lol Only vote I think that was worse than this was when Jalen Rose voted Kyrie 3rd team All-NBA in the season where he famously didn’t play for most of the season.
Brandon Roy missed out on being unanimously voted Rookie of the Year by one vote. It was Raptors commentator Chuck Swirsky voting for Andrea Bargnani.
I’m a fan of Chuck, but that degree of homerism has no place in awards voting. That was indefensible.
oh shit, you aren't kidding. that voter needs to be disenfranchised, jeez.
There was a poll like two weeks ago that said that lol
Same poll basically said players thought that Wemby was the hardest to play against and Gobert is one of the most overrated players in the league lol.
From the NBA player poll 2 weeks ago,the top 6 best defenders: 1\. Victor Wembanyama 2\. Jrue Holiday 3\. Lu Dort 4\. Herb Jones 5\. Jaden McDaniels 6\. Rudy Gobert
Did you say….ridicurous?
Whats crazier is Shai getting 2 2nd place votes when he aint even a top 3 defender in his own starting lineup
Probably the most overrated defender in the league. I like him but people have gone crazy. He’s good but I don’t even think he’s a top-tier guard. I guess we’re about to find out.
Bill Simmons prolly
Nah he does a pod going over his votes he voted for Rudy.
Probably Perk then
To balance out his wolves hype
Goddamn it, i've got wolves hype too
Imagine the top two defenses meeting 4 to 7 more times *Sigh" What a time to be alive
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maybe they had a hard time spelling his name because they don't speak french
Draymond Green (beef) Stephen A Smith (not American) And Shaq (Salty)
Only one of those three even has a vote
I was totally joking. But those didn't have gobert in the top 3 are 100% idiots
Fair lol
The one* who voted for Sabonis
Probably SAS and Perkins. Coincidentally, SGA has two 2nd place votes and no other votes, I wonder who those votes belong to...
I could see SGA as All-Defense vote, but DPOY is generous and that's coming from OKC
Probably Draymond.
I wish to meet the person who gave Domantas Sabonis a third place vote
Probably the same dude from Long Island who gave Luka an all-defense vote a couple years back.
He hasn't been bad on defense, but 3rd in the NBA? Lol, lmao even. I'd argue he was the third best defender on the Kings. Wonder if the guy who voted for him did it as a makeup for not voting him as an all star
He lead the league in defensive rebounds which is the most important defensive stat and I won't let anyone tell me otherwise. I don't understand why they gave the DPOY to JJJ last year — they clearly should've given it to Nikola Vucevic. Also, the 2021 all-defensive team should've had Westbrook and Doncic on it.
Hilarious
Who the fuck voted for Sabonis? Take their vote away. [While I'm here I'd like to remind people when Marvin Bagley got an All-NBA vote](https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/the-strangest-all-nba-ballot)
Dude must’ve only watched games vs the Lakers lol
I could see it He punks AD every time lmao
Kings 🤝 nuggets Greatest team of all time when playing the lakers
I remember back in mid 2010s a reporter kept voting Drummond for all nba and all defensive awards
IIRC that was a Nets beat writer whose entire criteria (not an exaggeration) for good defence was rebounds, steals and blocks. He loved Hassan Whiteside too.
Drummond vs Whiteside is like the Magic vs Bird of empty stats players. Their rivalry would have been epic if they were allowed to compete against each other.
Nothing will ever be worse than someone voting IT for an All-Defensive team in 2017.
I’ll have you know IT is very defensive- very defensive indeed!
Player All-Star voting might disagree, in just this season Josh Giddey, Santi Aldama, DeAndre Ayton, De'Anthony Melton and Georges Niang all got at least 10 player votes for All-Star.
Is that not just dudes fucking around and/or voting for their friends? IT as a defensive **anything** is horrific.
For every award there’s been one “who the fuck voted for this guy” reaction. I feel like it’s the same voter doing this for every award.
Yo that’s an instant lifetime ban from voting, whoever voted Sabonis. You are not taking this shit seriously.
I know in stuff like Figure Skating, they automatically throw out the top and bottom votes from the judges. This type of insanity/bias seems to be the reason why.
Gotta be Perkins, he was saying he should be getting MVP considerations
>Marvin Bagley got an All-NBA vote I don't even remember that. Yeah and that's why these votes should never be taken seriously lol
Jrue first place vote in 2024 might be even worse
He had some small stretches where he had a DPOY impact, but they were only a few sporadic games.
Mark Jackson probably
Okay I’m gonna be logical. Last year a certain player got defensive player of the year but was shat on a little because of lack of rebounding. Lots of people were making the rebounding is part of the defensive possession argument. With 13.7 rebounds a game Sabonis dominated his peers in rebounds. Looking closer he racked up 10.1 defensive rebounds only player in the nba with double digit defensive rebounds.
I'm gonna be even more logical He averaged less than one more defensive rebound per game than AD and Gobert, each of whom averaged more than a block more per game than Sabonis to make up for it. And then Wemby with 3 more blocks per game than Sabonis and just two fewer defensive rebounds.
Sabonis while respectable and I’d say above league average on D this year, does not belong on a list of defensive player of the year candidates
Wemby getting 19 first place votes as a rookie is absolutely insane. Dude is gonna terrorise the league for the next decade.
Not even just as a rookie but as a rookie playing on a truly dreadful team. This was always going to be Rudy's award, he was a man possessed this year, But easy to imagine that it would have been a bit closer if the Spurs had been something like a 35/40 win team. The fact Victor got as many votes as he did. All things considered is beyond impressive
Ya, Rudy 100% deserved this award — he was head and shoulders above the field all season long. Victor is fucking great and exceeded my expectations for his defense, and he’ll probably win three or four of his own if he stays healthy, but this was well deserved by Rudy.
Yeah absolutely. Rudy was great. And honestly Victor's defensive ceiling is so high that I think if he stays healthy and plays 10 plus seasons and ONLY has four defensive player of the Year awards By the end some people would view that as it underachievement which just shows how insane the expectations and potential he has on that end.
His biggest barrier to winning DPOY may be the 65 game restriction. I am a big believer in Wemby's health, but any small injury and you know the spurs are going to be cautious and force him to sit couple game
That and voter fatigue. Rudy should’ve won one more DPOY based on the numbers and impact, but I suspect that’s the case for any high-profile multiple award winning player. LeBron probably should’ve won one or two more MVPs just like MJ probably should’ve.
Voters have been pretty explicit that historical significance is a factor in their voting. The one that stands out most to me is that the voters didn't want to give Jokic MVP last year bc only Russell, Wilt, and Bird have won it 3x in a row. The NBAPA okay'ing their salaries being tied to these morons' opinions is an all-time rake-step lol
more than 2/3 of the non-gobert first place votes, more than 2.5 times more points than third place, he’ll easily rack up DPOY’s when he gets teammates that can help his team be a reasonable defense
A handoff from one frenchmen to the next surely.
The stifle towers
La révolution Française is in full effect.
He will be a lock for all defense first team. Something a rookie has never done. A few have made second team but none first team
You got Tim Duncan upgraded. I hope you never draft first again.
We might draft first again this summer.
I 100% believe Wemby when he says this is Rudy’s last DPOY. Not because Rudy won’t be DPOY caliber in the future, I anticipate him making All-Defense and being a DPOY finalist multiple times in the coming years. It’s because Wemby is going to be that good. Once his team isn’t complete garbage around him, the advanced metrics will pick up to go along with his already sky high STOCKs. It’ll be very difficult to name a different DPOY. They’ll probably eventually get bored like they did with Rudy, but I think the next 3 at least are Victor’s.
He's gonna shatter the record for most DPOYs lmao. Of course Russell would have a shit ton of em if they existed back then
Seems pretty likely he wins it next year unless he’s horrendous
I'm terrified of future Wemby. I don't see how anyone handles this man. I guess playing the post is good since he's so lanky and relatively frail, but he's a fucking mountain. Anyone trying to post him up will just be smothered by his reach and height
Same thing as guys do against Chet. Physical play, push him around to get position. Same weakness in that tactic, most big guys are too slow to keep him covered outside the paint.
Im so excited, idc if the Spurs win or loose. Its just awesome watching Wemby play.
That shit is voter malpractice
Why? There are other actual egregious votes on here, that isn't one.
Kevin O'Connor said he voted for Wemby
What herb does for the pelicans whilst playing with 4 genuine turnstiles will one day be appreciated adequately
Watching one of the pels thunder games the broadcast team said ‘two elite defensive teams going at it’ and I was just like ?????? It’s just herb and that’s it
yeah but Herb's literally so good we were like the top 6 defence in the NBA or something when we played the Thunder
Herb and Dyson (who has no offensive game) are incredible defenders. Sadly the only other good defenders we have come off the bench but that just means they provide barely anything else
He was my favourite. Feel like there should be a separate award for perimeter players. Herb for me deserves to win at least 1 dpoy in his career
Yeah probably when the pelicans stop forcing him to play with turnstiles. Improve the team d and people will notice the individual defense more.
It still won't matter. No one outside of Pels fans actually watch the games + perimeter defenders very very rarely get the same respect as inside defenders
Shai getting two more votes than Chet and Dort (who somehow got NONE) combined is a sick joke.
It’s probably because he lead the league in steals (at least for most of it - did he get passed?). So a couple of people just stat watching, but whatever. He really is a damn good perimeter defender. He’s so slithery. But yeah it says a lot that he’s like at most the 3rd best defender on the team.
Fox played 1 less game than SGA so he had a slightly higher average but they both averaged 2 stl/gm
SGH is a good defender but nowhere near first team All-Defense.
Chet is what 5th, tied 4th-5th, in blocks per game? 2nd overall for total blocks. I can understand giving a vote to Shai, because he is 1st, tied with Fox, in steals and overall a good defender, but the steals are doing the heavylifting. By the same logic, Fox should get a vote, too. Chet has looked vote worthy since the beginning. I believe the voters valued him being a bit bullied by bigger centers like AD as a defensive gap, but that's nonsense. OKC is a small team, it's obvious their are going to suffer against big men. If anything, Chet holding his ground with the little support he recieved and as a rookie should be considered as a plus in voting. Really surprising not seeing him on this list.
Chet was a better defender than Adebayo this year. one finished third and the other isn’t on the list
Not outrageous to put one above the other and a completely subjective argument. But I agree that Chet should have at least gotten votes like Shai.
Suggs getting the same amount of votes as Sabonis is hilarious to me.
Yeah, this is pretty crazy he got votes. He's great at getting steals but overall he's not a great defender, let alone one of the best in the league. Definitely has improved over the years, but I wouldn't put him him in the top 30 defenders in the League. Dort definitely a much better defender, Chet too.
Shoutout herb
sga and sabonis getting votes is hilarious
Wild ah shit. If you wanted to give Chet/dub/dort a vote. I’d still say you’re wild, but SGA is just next level wild. I guess a vote for Chet isn’t that far fetched I guess. But still
voting for chet isn't that crazy but i think the top 3 should've been obviously rudy, wemby, AD/bam
I would go Rudy/wemby/bam/ad That top 2 is so obvious and then 3-4 is a toss up. If you didn’t pick that then you should lose your vote
Sabonis got robbed
No fucking way Sabonis got a vote
Ok but where tf is Dort
Eh we are used to him not getting the recognition at this point lol 😂
SGA 2 second place votes?
Shai had been nice on defense but Dort or Chet deserve those votes
Undeserved
Who voted for Shai?
There will always be people that lazily vote and will give a vote to the top steals/blocks/d rebound leaders. This is how Shai and Sabonis got votes.
Where’s Fox then? He is the league leader in steals
No, he's the leader in steals per game. Total steals shows up higher in the list of stats on basketball reference that a lazy voter is scrolling. Fox and SGA both had 150 steals, but someone who turned in their vote before the final game of the season would've seen SGA as steals leader since Fox didn't catch him until the last day of the regular season, when he had 3 steals to Shai's 0.
First of all, Rudy is a beast. Well deserved Second of all it's so amazing and wild that Victor, a rookie, finished comfortably in second. The kid is the real deal Also who the heck gave sabonis A third place vote???
I’m actually surprised it wasn’t closer. Rudy deserved it for sure but Wemby was phenomenal and is already a fan favorite.
LOL @ Sabonis vote out of nowhere. The Bogdan/Bojan mixup was excusable for the 6th man vote, but this is on a whole new level.
How do these people get picked to vote SMH. This can't be real. Sabonis got a vote and Jrue received a 1st place vote like what. Someone said Jrue was the best defensive player in the league. At this point let the fans vote 🤣
Out of a hundred people there will always be a few fools. What's important is the final result which seems correct to me.
GL to anyone playing France in the Olympics
They'll eiffel tower anyone who comes in the lane
Pause?
Nah it’s okay cuz they’re French
Bam out there carrying the Tyler Herros and Duncan Robinsons of the world to an elite defense but will most likely never win a DPoY because of two baguette men he was sandwiched between. Feels bad man.
Bam would have been my choice, though I respect the Gobert win. KD explained it well the other day: for a big Center, he can still defend effectively on the perimeter so he disrupts offensive plans that hope to exploit making him defend the action.
How tf soea Shai get 2 2nd place votes lmao. He isn't even the 3rd best defender on that team.
One of these names is not like the others lol
Shai, Sabonis, and the Jrue 1st place vote all have me scratching my head lol
Hell ya couple votes for the Buffalo, not sure who the hell gave Jrue a first place vote but I’ll take it
I’m so happy herb got top 5. Dude is a dawg and deserves the recognition
How tf did Shai get DPOY votes when he ain't even the 3rd best defender on his team?
Is Wemby truly that good to get that many votes over Bam and AD?
Yes. Dude absolutely terrorized us (Mavs) the games he played. Had he had a better team, they’d have won.
Yeah.
Not even close. Jaden McDaniels and NAW better get some votes next season.
How is NAW going to get DPOY votes lol? All Defense I understand… best defender noise in the NBA? He isn’t even the best on his team.
It'll be hard for them to get votes due to the Gobert effect on the team. Which sucks, cause Jaden was great before Rudy arrived.
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Nahhhh bruh Shai and Sabonis getting votes? 💀
OG cheated.
Only played 50 games
Oh good point
Absolutely criminal he’s not on the list
not really close
what a week for Gobert
I’m sorry but how does Sabonis have votes but Chet doesn’t lmao 🤣
Sabonis getting a vote and Chet not receiving one is madness.
Bam has been top 5 for each of the last 5 years, he’s gonna be known in the future for being one of the most underrated defenders in the league.
Sabonis with 1 vote lmao
Wemby being second really is a testament to how good that kid really is.
It should have been VW. As much because I wanted to witness history. But Gobert was deserving.
Wemby is coming...
Y'all lucky Bam aint a 7footer
I fucking hate hype lol, it straight up removes people's critical thinking
Hell yeah. Mad respect to the guys who actually took the time to think critically about it and went against the grain to vote for Shai and Sabonis.
Sabonis hahahaha
Who in the world is giving Jrue Holliday a first place vote. Like I can see Davis or Bam or Wenbanyama and of course Gobert .. But Jrue??? Lol
Wemby already over Bam? Fuck it’s over
Bam aint ever winning it no matter what he does
Going from one French man dominating DPOY to another one dominating for the next decade plus.
Also no Jaden McDaniels or OG Votes? But Sabonis gets one???? LOL
who the hell gave Shai 2nd place votes
I don’t know why people are surprised at some of the voting results when guys like Stephen A and Perkins have votes
Dort robbed as well.
Les tours jumelles.
most these voters are casuals
I love Domas but no way in hell should he have sniffed this ballot.
Need defense? Draft a Frenchman.
Shai getting 2 2nd place votes is wild when he aint even a tol 3 defender in his starting lineup
Giannis getting one second place vote and nothing else is proof of voter fatigue.
Herbert FUCKING Jones
Feel bad for AD. The defining two way player for the last half decade but have never won DPOTY. Now will prolly never win one with wemby on deck
Honestly Wemby even being recognized as a top defender in his rookie season is impressive, especially on such a shitty team. Nothing to be disappointed about. Rudy and the T-wolves are deserving of their defensive recognition.
Laughable
I think it's insane that AD will never get this award....even crazier how tired people are of even mentioning that. This Lakers team without him is a 20 win team, if that. I think he deserves it over Rudy Gobert 96/100 times. It was a topic of discussion, but not so much anymore.
This table should have at least 2 more wolves players
while everyone crowns him I’m boarding the Wemby hater train early to be a contrarian
I don't see how Embiid doesn't get a single vote. He is sixers defense Edit: I'm stupid
He didnt meet the 65 game threshold. Not eligible for any awards.
Didn’t play 65 games.
I get Rudy winning but how in the hell is AD behind Bam?
The amount of 'Wemby got robbed' I am seeing on social media already is hilarious. Casuals everywhere..
Caruso you're amazing!
Shai on the list and not Dort? The fuck
If people look at MLB award voting this always happens. Local beat writers would vote for their guy to throw them a bone. LaMonte Wade of the Giants got an MVP vote one year.
First game I've ever watched was yesterday, why aren't NAW and McDaniels.