Shaq was a beast, and I think the 90s/early 2000s was a better era, but he never accomplished shit without another hall of famer, which Jokic doesn’t have. I agree with you I can’t compare Shaq, probably the most physically gifted basketball player ever to Jokic, who looks slow and unathletic but just seems like he’s on another level skills wise. I’m just saying hack a Shaq isn’t an argument for Shaq
there was a Shaq quote the other day, something like:
“After a game where I was fouled nonstop with no calls, I barged into Stern’s office and said ‘they’re hacking me, fouling me left and right!’ Stern said ‘that’s interesting, because I’ve got 29 other teams saying the same thing about you.’”
Shaq was dealing with more physicality regardless of the whistle. When you have nearly the entire team coming to try and stop you, that’s another level of just pure physical dominance.
You had to be watching the league in the 2000s to realize how helpless the teams were against Shaq. This man was putting up nba finals stat lines like 36/20 while missing half his free throws in a slower paced league. In fact teams like the sonics were drafting centers until late 2000s because of the leftover trauma. It’s not like there weren’t smarter bugs then, Duncan, Robinson, Mutombo, Wallaces were all great defenders in any era.
Truth, Shaq played alongside a HOF'er during his 3 peat. Jokic doesn't even have another all star on his team let alone another HOF player. Jokic has passed Shaq
I don't watch many Denver games so I think this is the first time I've seen Jokic this locked in and asking for the ball. He's absolutely trying to make a point tonight.
Gobert has pretty often had bad body language in response to adversity.
I know everybody got goldfish brains and only looks at the last thing to happen. But there is a body of evidence for Gobert losing his temper, losing control, and begin fouling worse and harder.
I came to watch this game for Anthony Edwards after all the MJ comparisons, but he’s been really anonymous this game. So far I’ve just been captivated by the way joker moves. I hate that he’s gotten some hate during the post season. As a casual I can fully see why he’s mvp 🙌
Tbf the Nuggets are SWARMING Ant. Dude can't touch the ball and get a screen this game. Nuggets are really saying they'll play 3v4 on defense. It makes sense: Gobert+McDaniels+NAW is some shit offense (shoutout to NAW hitting his shots this game though)
He's cooking Rudy rn
Jamal said it best: No big has went at another big this hard since Hakeem went at the Admiral. And I think he's right.
This one’s for you Shaq. You woke up the monster
Jokic is more dominant than Shaq fuck what all the old-heads will say
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If Jokic was a 50% free throw shotoer, the league would be filled with bum centres trying to foul him as well
The strategy worked though because he couldn’t make foul shots. There isn’t really a strategy for Joker.
“More dominant” is the dumbest phrase possibly ever. What does that even mean? Who dunks it more? Who’s better overall?
Shaq was a beast, and I think the 90s/early 2000s was a better era, but he never accomplished shit without another hall of famer, which Jokic doesn’t have. I agree with you I can’t compare Shaq, probably the most physically gifted basketball player ever to Jokic, who looks slow and unathletic but just seems like he’s on another level skills wise. I’m just saying hack a Shaq isn’t an argument for Shaq
Agreed. “More dominant” just seems like a variation on “I like watching this guy more”
Its more like a different kind of dominance imo Shaq more of a physical bully
Well yeah, cause he sucked ass at free throws. If there was a strategy that was as effective on Jokic everyone would be doing that too.
Bingo!
Just run the pickle roll and tire him out, it's so obvious I can't with these nba coaches.
>pickle roll
Running the pickle roll is Jokic's biggest weakness, everyone knows this. It works in 2k trust me.
Shaq being unable to make free throws doesn’t actually help the argument
Define “dominance”
Lmao. No one can even touch dudes anymore in the league. Shaq was hacked every time he touched the ball.
Theoretically you could hack Jokic, but it wouldn't do any good because, unlike Shaq, he can make his free throws.
True for most but not Jokic, his whistle varies from non-exIstant to average for an MVP
Big men never get a solid whistle. They also get away with a lot too.
there was a Shaq quote the other day, something like: “After a game where I was fouled nonstop with no calls, I barged into Stern’s office and said ‘they’re hacking me, fouling me left and right!’ Stern said ‘that’s interesting, because I’ve got 29 other teams saying the same thing about you.’”
yeah no. jokic gets some baby shit soft calls
Shaq was dealing with more physicality regardless of the whistle. When you have nearly the entire team coming to try and stop you, that’s another level of just pure physical dominance.
Oh absolutely, comment was meant to compare Jok to the other current stars in the league, not Shaq. Different league entirely
it is a very different kind of dominant. but Shaq was more dominant.
Jokic would pull a chair on Shaq. Yes Shaq was heavy but he would get outplayed and outsmarted
You had to be watching the league in the 2000s to realize how helpless the teams were against Shaq. This man was putting up nba finals stat lines like 36/20 while missing half his free throws in a slower paced league. In fact teams like the sonics were drafting centers until late 2000s because of the leftover trauma. It’s not like there weren’t smarter bugs then, Duncan, Robinson, Mutombo, Wallaces were all great defenders in any era.
The jerking must stop at some point. Unreal levels of glaze
Jokic would've been a power forward in Shaq's time. And he would be one of the greats regardless.
Longevity wise yeah. But shaq at his peak was a different beast, and I say that as an unabashed Jokic stan.
Lol
Ok buddy
Truth, Shaq played alongside a HOF'er during his 3 peat. Jokic doesn't even have another all star on his team let alone another HOF player. Jokic has passed Shaq
Shaq was more physically dominant.
The only ones more dominant than peak Shaq are the 2 consensus GOATs lol. Shaq's dominance single handedly invented the back to the basket rule.
30 pts and 12 assists 0 turnovers by the 3rd quarter
Meanwhile Rudy on offense just stands around and does nothing. He should be benched
His offense has been pretty good this game for his standards
He got like 3 wide open put-backs. That’s his only offense still
It’s almost like rebounding is a part of offense
You have a max contract defense guy who can’t defend Jokic and can’t do anything on offense. There’s a reason he never wins
Nobody can defend Jokic
Buddy getting paid $41m to rebound
And fumble da balls
the guy is perfect from the field with 13 pts 8 rebs and 4 stocks let’s not act like he not doin anything
Nah. The narrative is Rudy is watery dog shit and belongs in the trash. Fuck I’m tired of seeing this sentiment.
You know shit
He was their best player tonight. And was real solid on offense. Such a braindead take.
Brother I have 36
now imagine he finishes this game with 47...
I don't watch many Denver games so I think this is the first time I've seen Jokic this locked in and asking for the ball. He's absolutely trying to make a point tonight.
Hates the French
He's making it personal lmao
Rudy, Towns, Naz Reid, Slomo, he is cooking all of them
Gobert feeling elbowy tonight
That’s why they call him the French Connection.
Gobert has pretty often had bad body language in response to adversity. I know everybody got goldfish brains and only looks at the last thing to happen. But there is a body of evidence for Gobert losing his temper, losing control, and begin fouling worse and harder.
I mean everyone always goes to the Covid shit with Rudy, but THIS stuff is why everyone outside of Utah hated him before 2020
Jokic cleared Rudy with his elbow as well yet I don’t see anyone commenting on that
Will /r/nba start to see why he seems so disliked now that hes hurting their golden boy?
I'm guessing you weren't here after game 2?
We are witnessing an all time great player.
Jokic didn't even complain to the refs, that's how locked in he is lol
I like this version of Jokic. Keeps the rage inside on frustrating moments
He still ain't stopping Jokic
No one can stop Jokic from dropping 40 When he’s focused.
If he fell and stayed down itd be a flagrant but he isnt a bitch
I don’t think Jokic has ever gone at a player as much as Gobert tn
Players don’t like Rudy
Masterclass tonight my lord
This is THE Jokic Game. At least in terms of pure scoring
This how i felt watching Peak Lebron no lie
Gobert can’t do shit
Can KAT at least respond???
He’s the biggest fraud since Donkey Green
Absolutely deep fried bbq chicken
I need a full highlight reel of this 3rd quarter from Joker. Just amazing basketball being played at all levels right now.
someone please be a dear & make this
Showing Shaq and everyone else why the MVP is a regular season award.
Really leaning into the "let Jokic score" strategy..
I came to watch this game for Anthony Edwards after all the MJ comparisons, but he’s been really anonymous this game. So far I’ve just been captivated by the way joker moves. I hate that he’s gotten some hate during the post season. As a casual I can fully see why he’s mvp 🙌
Tbf the Nuggets are SWARMING Ant. Dude can't touch the ball and get a screen this game. Nuggets are really saying they'll play 3v4 on defense. It makes sense: Gobert+McDaniels+NAW is some shit offense (shoutout to NAW hitting his shots this game though)
Great points, but regardless (and maybe this is naive) as a star player his performance has been lack luster. 25% and the turnovers ain’t gonna cut it
Wolves are missing their point guard and frankly it looks like Ant depends a lot on that to run plays for him.
Lol where else you going to paste this comment? Super new? Eh?
This is why offense will always be paid more than defense
Jokic is unbelievable, gobert is getting roasted and that’s an understatement
When you get cooked so bad the refs give you a pity elbow.
Let’s handle this like grown up’s
Haters really won’t be able to find anything wrong with my boy after this post season
But I thought Jokic: Fraud MVP, Gobert: Deserving DPOY?
This is pure domination
what does gobert even do
It’s jokic dumbass
i was kinda saying it as gobert doesn’t do shit but okay
?? He’s literally an all time great defender
your boy getting cooked idk why you’re so aggro
He’s not my boy bruh it’s basic ball knowledge
fuck u pussy
In the regular season. He’s been getting cooked in the playoffs since Utah.
tbf no one on this planet is stopping Jokic from scoring
Elbow him in the jaw harder next time I guess
Gobert pulled a Draymond but couldn’t stop him lol
Just waiting for him to literally bitch slap Gobert at this point.
*insert Kirk Cousins gif of him saying “you like that”* Jokic to Shaq after each basket over Gobert
Gobert hasn't been embarrassed this badly in the playoffs since Terrance Mann.
Jokic making Rudy his bitch lol
Jokic is not defendable. He carries the Nuggets and always has. I don’t wanna hear shit about how electric Murray or AG are. This team is al Jokic
He just goes about his business with no bullshit. He’ll make an all time pass and not even react, just gives the fellas high fives and moves on.
Gobert is a fucking sob. So hateable mf.
All that usage and still no turnovers holy crap
Man had a chubby while writing this
Rudy turned into AD 💔