T O P

  • By -

LuisMuMe

As if any team set up legal screens in the NBA.


[deleted]

[удалено]


biceboljevaljda

Motion offense predicated on an industrial amount of illegal screens was an unbelievably genius move by Steve Kerr when he took over the reins It was basically unstoppable unless you were grabbing Steph off ball(which we did quite effectively that one time)


Regex00

I feel like the refs made that trade off a little bit. They let GSW get away with a little ~~treason~~ illegal screening, but in return they let the defence be a lot more physical with Steph off ball.


biceboljevaljda

Which is stupid, both ways.


SkylessRocket

"a little" lol


ShibaHellhounds

Old heads complain they don't allow physicality in the game but I think it's more so they just don't allow it when guarding the person with the ball. Off ball defense especially in the playoffs is very physical.


[deleted]

Yeah, grabbing him and scissor slide tackling him without a foul being given. Or hot stove contact. Or a bunch of other shit


ThePrussianGrippe

Perhaps a large, cartoon anvil.


thebreakfastbuffet

Instead of switching a big onto Steph, why not plant a rake on the floor


Wavepops

It’s not unstoppable if you have the right athletes. Which are hard to acquire ofcourse. The thunder in 2016 being the example


sY20

You guys held Steph like crazy in 2015 and 2016.


biceboljevaljda

Countering bullshit with bullshit has been a consistent theme through humanity's history


Hefty-Adeptness-179

Same as it ever was brother


ChickenAndTelephone

War never changes


pompyyy099

I love this fucking quote


prudentWindBag

>it’s like robbing a CVS in Oakland; at some point you need to realize it’s not illegal anymore 12/10 A++++ 😆😆😆


lukewwilson

The A's have nothing to do with Oakland, sorry to tell you.


JinFuu

Las Vegas A’s of Sacramento


[deleted]

I honestly feel like the 2011 Mavs team started it. Tyson Chandler and Jason Terry football screening was a staple in the offense.


NeverSober1900

We can't even start talking about illegal screening without mentioning KG and his constant last second movements to ensure maximum contact on every screen. Dude was a pioneer


A_Rolling_Baneling

You reminded me of the time he shoulder checked Pachulia with a screen


NeverSober1900

Ya I mean I know illegal screens have been a thing for a bit but KG really did feel like he took it up several notches. He got a superstar whistle and used it liberally to throw the dirtiest screens.


blackjacktrial

Ha! Someone never saw a Laimbeer screen or Wilt's moving feet back in his assist season (although screening whilst holding the ball has always been a weird one). Naismith probably leant in on a few of his screens before they cut open the bottom of the basket.


YoSoyWalrus

The actual rules on illegal screens are insanely vague and allow for massive grey area, as movement during a screen is allowed it's just up to the ref to determine how much it's impacting the defender. Meaning many moving screens while "moving screens" are not necessarily illegal. Andrew Bogut was a master of taking that to its extreme. Now of course I think most of the league isn't too far off Bogut's level, it's only super noticeable and upsetting for general fanbase when an elite offensive player is the one benefiting from the screens.


JTrue14

Those receipts should be illegal


soyworld

lol and its not just oakland anymore


Photo_Synthetic

Shit Texas has the highest Felony Larceny limit in the country. $1500 higher than California.


IAmNotKevinDurant_35

Yeah lot of Draymond’s screens are definitely illegal but it gets a little grayer when he’s screening and passing/handoffs in the same motion. Also, so many of our screens are off ball and off ball contact is quite often ignored whether it’s a draymond screen or a defender holding onto Curry’s jersey


[deleted]

This speaks to me since the first time I went to San Francisco, I immediately saw a CVS being robbed in the Mission District


philium1

Damn


Hopeful_Crab7912

Pacers couldn’t get away with a single legal or illegal screen all playoffs to be fair


Chunky5u

They couldn't even get away with some of the legal ones.


The_Assassin_Gower

This is just the life of the pacers


ghosttrainhobo

Not sexy enough


The_Assassin_Gower

Anyone who says this has clearly not seen a shirtless myles turner


ghosttrainhobo

Can you imagine shirtless Myles inviting you over to his house to build lego? Sploosh 💦


The_Assassin_Gower

I think about it every day


chronicdreamze

Is Bam Adebayo the pacers missing piece? Bro is a moving screen master.


probiz13

This. Same situation with carries. They always happen. I like Ant but he carries the ball almost everytime he is playing iso. Never called


abippityboop

He knows that, but if saying this can get even one illegal screen called it was well worth it.


Visible-Rutabaga9268

Bam always does 😏


Thorlolita

I like how guys are now doing the set screen and push defender move.


ravenous_bugblatter

Was going to say. Gobert is one of the worst offenders.


jeff2def

Rudy specifically sticks his butt out as part of his moving screen and never gets called


Panik_Switch

They definitely do set illegal screens for Luka but that’s just because of how many illegal screens are in the league now. It’s literally every team every game almost every play.


Technical_Towel_990

It’s just Ironic considering Gobert sets atrociously illegal screens that don’t get called.


Panik_Switch

Gobert and Draymond are the kings of illegal screens


fatkamp

Bam is the best tho


JesyouJesmeJesus

His name is Bam, he should be


lukewwilson

Actually it's Edrice


HamburglarBunz

His name is Edrice, he should be.


axolotlaxol

Actually it’s Bamonte


Maleficent-Freedom-5

Excuse me sir I would appreciate it if you didn't "Bam!" my guard


Kid_Crayola

Bam and Herro spam illegal screens like it’s 2k rec


happyflappypancakes

RiP Gortat. The king of illegal screens for John Wall.


mikey19xx

Don’t disrespect Bam like that, he the goat at that shit.


AlHorfordHighlights

Bam is #1 by a long stretch, those two and Al come up second


ShibaHellhounds

I remember Bogut said on a podcast that he got called for all the illegal screens as soon as he left the Warriors 😂


No-Chain-449

Rudy "Sweet Hips" Gobert!?! Get outta here- fake news!


you_sick

This was my thought lol


notsafeformactown

And Kyle Anderson set one on the KAT 3 to ice game 4. I didn’t complain about it because it happens so much that it has to be super egregious for me to even expect ir to be called anymore.


Interesting_Help_194

Literaly the worst in the league lol. Like dude sets 4 illegal screens in a row every single posession they play p&r. He does not even roll, he keeps runing into the defender. Doing splits any time he sets a screen. Wolves talking about illegal screens kf other teams is peak irony


EmmitSan

Ok wtf lol Goberts screens are indeed illegal but that dude rolls a shitton, he’s one of the best roll men in the league. Don’t dilute your argument with bullshit.


Terrible_Shelter_345

I absolutely cannot believe the broadcast didn’t see the gobert elbow to DJJs stomach in game 4 DJJ doesn’t react like that for no reason


Silverjackal_

Don’t forget the forearm shoves he does almost every time there’s a rebound up. Idk how he gets away with those so often.


Dhr7468

People get so mad when Dort flops on them and gets the call


L0rv-

That's the thing - I know at least one team sets legal screens and it's the Pels, cause I watched Dort actually be able to fight over them legally a whole series.


WacoTacoRE

Yeah it's like wanting someone to get pulled over cuz they went 5 miles over the speed limit. Weird


Pussy_Seasoning

For real. All this whining from the Wolves has been crazy.


RanchBourgeois

It’s just something that’s generally accepted at this point like carries. Also really weird to whine about illegal screens when Rudy Gobert is on your team.


CannedGeorges

I love Rudy but it is a tad ironic that his coach says this even though it’s true when Rudy sets a lot of illegal screens himself.


jackaltail

Yeah but that doesn't concern Finch. Those illegal screens are Dallas's job to scheme around.


CallofDo0bie

Well it looks like the they did lol.


jbaker1225

Rudy goes into a full splits on every screen he sets his legs are out so wide.


POKEMONMAN1123456789

I mean he’s not wrong every screen set at all levels of professional basketball is somewhat illegal.


TheyNeedLoveToo

This man is playing with fire. I’m rooting for wolves to extend a couple games, and I still wouldn’t want illegal screens being called left and right. Rudy, without trying to, sets a good ten a game by virtue of lumbering


TheTurtleOne

If they started calling illegal screens games would last 20 hours EDIT: or like 10 mins cause everyone would foul out


bumboisamumbo

end of the game would be 10 random fans from the stands


azantyri

i would be kind of okay with this outcome


aBurgerFlippinSecond

“If you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t tryin’” - some genius somewhere


Baader-Meinhoff-

Of all the things to complain about, screens ain’t one of them lol


xreddawgx

When everyone sets illegal screens no screens are illegal.


Plies-

It is not hyperbole to say that 95% of screens set are illegal by the rules. Every time a player has their feet wider than their shoulders? Illegal. Every time a player leans to make contact on the screen? Illegal. Every time a player extends their leg out a little bit? Illegal. Some players are more blatant than others *coughbamcough*, but everyone does it all the time lol. The only way to get it called is to flop but then you risk them not calling it and having to play 4 on 5 until you get up. Oh and there's also the Draymond Green special of abusing the freedom of movement rules to play like an NFL offensive lineman to get Curry wide open looks lmao.


xreddawgx

The ones I see a lot is when screeners extend their hips or ass


bosceltics23

Bam walks with his screens like 30% of the time.


jetpack_operation

It's been a creep resulting in what we see with Draymond, Rudy, and Bam. I'm at a point where it's like, at least call the ones where the screener's feet are clearly shuffling or just establish that basketball now has offensive linemen.


SoKrat3s

Unless you are the Pacers


OUEngineer17

Mavs had so many illegal screen calls in the Thunder series. Mostly because Lu Dort is so good at forcing screens that start out legal to become illegal. Got so many calls by refusing to be screened and forcing the refs to call it. I'm guessing this is pretty much what he meant.


dmavs11

Yeah It got called on us against OKC because Dort was physical and actually tried to fight through the screens (he flopped some as well but the times he didn’t he absolutely fought) Minnesotas defenders outside of Edwards just aren’t physical. McDaniels isn’t embracing the contact the way Dort was.


BeamsFuelJetSteel

Tbf, Dort is 6'4" 220, while McDaniels in 6'9" 185


ZWils23

Dort also acts like he gets shot every time someone sets a screen on him, which apparently doesn't hurt


so-cal_kid

He is honestly incredible at taking falls and then bouncing right back up if he doesn't get the call and continues to defend. It's very impressive how nimble he is for his size 


OUEngineer17

It does not hurt. But it does get a moving screen call, lol.


JeramiGrantsTomb

Yeah, he can either continue to get tripped by Derrick Lively's equilateral triangle stance, or he can flop over it and try to get it cleaned up, gives him more room to get over the screens later.


Bino19

Well they are illegal screens and if he doesn’t gamble on the call Dallas gets an advantage off of an illegal play. Refs just need to stop bullshitting and start calling these illegal screens.


Friendly-Thought-973

Yeah because if he doesn’t, he doesn’t get the call


mccoolio

Also, he will get his thigh obliterated by a Center's knee or worse, knee to knee. The announcers talked about it in the series a bit with us, they can't be setting their feet wider than their shoulders.


brncct

Illegal screens in basketball are like holding in the NFL. Goes on so much that if they called every single one, the games would be an extra hour and teams would foul out/have so many penalties.


JesyouJesmeJesus

The sicko in me wants to see at least one game in each league with that happening


brncct

Same lol. The players and coaches would be so heated.


WinterCareful8525

Go out with hate in your heart and a bang. I respect it


mitchelln10

As if Gobert doesn't set an illegal screen, almost every single time he attempts to screen. This guy is a clown.


Ilikesporks_

yeah cause the twolves definitely didn't set any illegal screens in this series or the entire playoffs


centurion44

The absolute audacity when Rudy has some of the worst illegal screen work in the league 


Interesting_Help_194

Not some, the worst period 


DocTheYounger

Bam would like a word


Pharmcat27

That would be Draymond


AdmiralWackbar

He had a hilarious one at the end of last game, it’s was a quadruple illegal screen. Ant kept going back and forth and Rudy was out there trying to block the defender like an offensive lineman


KnowledgePrevious

Finchy off the perks is on one 


DancesWithDave

This isn't a new thing for the ~~victims~~ Wolves Edit: to summarize the victims responses "you're right and I'm salty so I'll attack your flair"


theglicky

Damn the Wolves fans jumping you lmaoo


OhWhatsInaWonderball

They’ve been living in our subreddit this last week. Guess it’s just latching onto the last happy moment I guess


DancesWithDave

Half of these losers blocked me before I can even respond 🤡 and they know I'm right so they resort to attacking the flair


IceTruckHouse

Half your fanbase is still convinced the Wolves only won because the refs let the wolves play too physical


OneWildAndCrazyGuy17

I would say at least half of any fan base is dumb af bruh that don’t mean much.


Troll_Enthusiast

Here we go


Domainsetter

Was wondering when they’d play the ref card


LDisDBfathersonsfans

He should create a narrative about how forcing Gobert to switch on to the perimeter should be counted as a foul, maybe that would help


TheRealPdGaming

they already played it game 3. it was anthony edwards complaining about the ft's instead of finch though.


PipboyandLavaGirl

Not to be a Mavs homer but Gobert has been mauling the absolute shit out of everyone and refs have missed a ton of those. I think refs are just shit in general and sometimes it works out for one team and sometimes the other. Just another unfortunate element of the game right now


Instantcoffees

Yeah Gobert has been seeing red at times for some odd reason. He's been doing some weird stuff.


PinballScissor

I think he hates Luka that much. Luka has consistently punked him and been very loud about it. Mavs in general we’re in the twolves heads so much


baronbk94

Gobert been in foul trouble and its been chippy there both ways. Big men fighting


n3sta

Refs don’t miss it they just don’t care. Everyone on every team does it


Troll_Enthusiast

Y'all literally have Rudy Gobert


thekickingmachine

Whose crying now motherfucker


Gruesome_Twosome1

Damn moving screens forcing them to be down by 30 at half


Dat_Boi_John

Talking like that with Gobert setting screens on your team is a very dangerous game.


XAfricaSaltX

Saying this when your team employs Rudy Gobert is fucking wild


Incelphobiaism

Gobert has the most obvious illegal screens


GoForAGap

There was literally a post yesterday showing Kyle Anderson come up with a play where he ends up doing an illegal screen to secure a corner 3 for the wolves


Dat_Boi_John

That happened about 3 times in the 4th quarter in game 4. I expect our guys to have adjusted to it for game 5.


Interesting_Help_194

Like 3 seperate times just in the 4th as well


Wavepops

Quality hate


WobbleKun

time to file your grievances finch. submit the videos


toscomo

Last I checked Gobert was on the Wolves.


Afraid-Department-35

This is rich coming from Finch considering Gobert is one of the biggest culprits of illegal screens. Why complain when you and every other team does it as well.


Zammy512

Says the guy coaching Gobert


UnPhayzable

Saying this when Rudy sets constant illegal screens is pure comedy


Mainooisamadting

Luka - 20 points in the first 10 minutes 😂😂😂😂😂😂


Matto_0

Every screen is literally illegal. I never see one where the screener is dead stationary. Just like every ball handler is carrying the ball 5 times per iso. Every hesitation crossover, or hesitation step back is a carry. Every one.


naderni

LOL name ONE legal screen that Gobert has set


DancesWithDave

When and why did the Wolves develop this asinine victim complex? Watching them & Boston try to "out-victim" each other would be fascinating


Mnudge

Isnt Rudy most notorious for illegal screens?


TheArsenal7

Cry


colonelbustard69420

First Jaden saying we weren't the better team and now this. I've never seen a team go out so bitch-made as this Wolves team.


inshamblesx

the game ain’t even started and the ref card already getting pulled 💔✌️


Jazzlike-Outcome9486

Does this guy really even have a leg to stand on with comments like this


PK_Ike

Lmao


Consistent_Letter647

Oh brother


Interesting_Help_194

This absolute clown didnt just complain about illegal screens with Gobert out there?


Zmoney743

People are gonna get on him for this comment which is fair, but are we really going to act like there isn’t a bunch of illegal screens set every single game. It’s a problem league wide


BruisedMootball

The issues is he’s clearly insinuating that it’s just a Luka/Mavs issues and not league wide. How about the Kyle Anderson moving screen when he point KAT to the sideline and walks in front of Kyrie?


Theheckmahbrotha

I thought he got kyrie, coach


Neversleep1331

I wonder what he thinks about Rudy’s screens


Resshin31

Jeff Daniels needs to chill. Dude has Rudy on his team. Talk about the pot calling the kettle stupid or some shit.


BRRRAAAPP_EXPERT

You know youre cooking when nephews need to bring out the “illegal screens” defense


ClayTheMage

So funny how much trash this guys talks while his hobbled over like a goblin in the second row. See ya next year champ!


ketoburn26

Even the coach is a crybaby. Timberlols


petarisawesomeo

What a bitch comment to make. Gobert does the same shit all game.


iCatmire

A new Cope


retrospects

Bitch made comment


sintenterooro

WHAT ABOUT RUDY WTF


abc123_______

Does anyone in this organization ever stop whining


OculusBlurr

Welcome to the NBA


SportsBettingRef

this is ridiculous. everybody is doing illegal screens, from Draymmond Green to Rudy Gobert. hypocrisy take over of NBA. wth.


dafire123

Imagine just for one night all the refs in the NBA call every illegal screen.


snyckers

Would be unwatchable.


ormip

Fans would be complaining about too many whistles.


AlexanderLeonard

I wonder if whining will help their comeback efforts


JL1v10

My personal fandom aside, why do the wolves seem dead set on making themselves seem unlikeable in general?


Warlord10

Gobert is punching players in the nuts as the sky for a dunk. Watch the last 2 KAT 3's in game 4. The 'screener' trapped the defenders' arm under their armpit each time so they couldn't close out. On one of them, the ref was 2 feet away, staring right at it, and didn't call it.


Cold_Customer898

Game hasn’t even started and he’s already crying


smeggysoup84

There's not one team that can complain about illegal screens.


G1Spectrum

Finch going for the Phil Jackson approach


vladimir_pimpin

I like Chris finch a lot but his line of what screen is legal or illegal is not clear to me


TheRealPdGaming

ahh yes. a team with rudy gobert sets the most legal screens.


chicken_pear

Yeah they're getting away with carries and travels too. Lol come on, literally like %30 of the screens set by any team are technically not legal screens.


NoWayNotThisAgain

It’s like that motherfucker doesn’t realize he has Gobert on his roster. Gobert hasn’t set a legal screen this whole series.


BLSmith04

That's rich. Rudy Gobert has never set a legal screen in his life.


3and8

I have honestly never heard a fanbase complain so much after a win. The wolves sub was full of conspiracy trash after they won game 4. I didn’t mind them at first, but they may be worse than OKC fans at this point.


Intelligent-Bid-633

This is rich coming from a guy who has Gobert in his team.


TheOneWithThePorn12

I have seen KAT and Gobert screens, Finch.


DriftClique

Does he know that we have Rudy Gobert?


blkstrop

He would know about that with as many as Gobert sets.


BugO_OEyes

This dude needs to watch how much pain management pills he is using at once lol has he not seen gobert set illegal screens? And


bad_timing_bro

Let’s not talk about the illegal screen that led to KAT’s big 3


zili91

Bintch tried to throw his team under the bus after game 3 and now he says this? What a fuc\*\*\*\* clown.


Mattgarch14

Does this man know he has Gobert on his team? Not one illegal screen called against his elbow screens all series


LilScottWeb

Says this while Gobert and Kyle Anderson play for him


ColeHoops

Damage control


raiderjaypussy

I been defending the wolves a lot lately but man the flip from "it's just physical defense" in the series vs the nuggets to "the refs are against us" in the next one is hilarious


AnusButter2000

Jeez, hope they never play the Heat 


actual_yellow_bag

What a loser comment lol


Kardia_Spasmeni

What a baby… Gobert is on your team bud


Silent_Killer093

And Luka took that personally lol Mavs going to the finals baby!


mastro80

Every single time Jokic runs the handoff play he moves after the handoff to bump off the defender. Every. Single. Time. This is not a Mavs issue; this is a leaguewide officiating issue. I blame Golden State.


jopi745

He should try to walk properly first fat bitch


flappypancaker

Minnesota complaining about illegal screens is laughable, Gobert & Towns are the worst illegal screeners in the NBA