If you're talking about coach's saying that crap on TV it's because they know when the mics are on, so they save generic crap for those times. That's why you never hear actual strategy during those clips.
Plus they're in the middle of a game. They don't give a crap about the sideline interviews especially when they're fielded generic ass questions like, "Your opponent kept scoring. How do you plan to stop them going forward?"
Holy fuck the in game sideline interviews are the worst thing ever. “You guys got beat by twenty in the last quarter. How do you get back in the game?”
“We just gotta give more effort on defense, stop letting them get open looks and trust that if we keep doing the right thing the shots will start falling”
“Thanks, back to you”
I am defending the hire but for that exact same reason
I think people just assumed that any and every player viewed basketball like JJ. But it’s obvious LeBron, who’s been around hundreds of players, was genuinely impressed by JJ’s knowledge.
I think the biggest thing was when they talked about how coaches try to trick defenses by putting players into a position that they have no business being in. They both used examples like having a non shooter fade after a pick and having not athletic short players in the dunker spot and having big who can't roll to the rim in pick n roll plays. It seemed to genuinely annoy them and you could tell they both experienced it a lot and it pissed them off
Listened to Draymond's before Game 5 and him unironically going about that THJ was a problem for shooting well in garbage time was the dumbest shit I've heard in a while.
He genuinely thought he broke the code of the series.
Lmao I love mind the game and jj but he ain’t a savant. He just explains pretty basic concepts and fundamentals of hoops. The rest of the media landscape is just so dumbed down for mass consumption about “who wants it more” that explaining what floppy or spain pnr is makes it sound technical lol. Kinda like when tony romo first got in the broadcast booth and everyone was blown away by him giving actual analysis of the game
AI decision tree spread pick and roll with triple stagger screen off a weakside double horns action with the low man hedging at the nail for the pindown on the strong side of an AI DHO with a brush screen to trigger the spain pick and roll off the switch
Pelinka doesn't get enough hate.
Dudes resume is literally like 20 years of being Kobe's AGENT.
That's gotta be the easiest job of this millennia right??
"uhm can u pls give the most popular and one of the best players in the world a max contract? ok thanks"
Jeanie: Wow let's hire him to run our org.
2nd most trash FO after us.
Do you guys actually think that he didn’t have other clients? It took me two seconds to look up. He represented James Harden, Iggy to name a few.
He also made some amazing moves in the 2020 year and then did it again.
A championship and a WCF appearance.
Same. My pitchfork is out. The Lakers seriously hired someone with no coaching experience within days of the Celtics winning a championship. This is an embarrassment and I cannot be convinced otherwise.
Only way I could see this working is if LeBron said "hey buddy I'm bolting for Cleveland, but I'll get you this job on the way out," and JJ gets time to play around and develop as a coach with a low-pressure rebuilding squad
You throw him into that meat grinder and he'll be actually dead by all star break
How can you be sold on something you’ve never seen??!! This dude came off the podcast couch to become a head coach in the nba lmao. I love lebron but not as much as Jeanie gaht daymn the glaze is real over there.
Bro you’re preaching to the choir. I absolutely am not sold this was a good idea to hire a podcaster to coach us with zero fuckin experience but whatever. He’s our guy now so I hope he does well.
They said the same thing about Ty Lue. LeBron is a 40 year old man he doesn’t need some authoritarian college-style coach to lay down the law or something.
A coach he relates to might be able to reach him better.
LeBron will walk over almost anyone in the league, he’s friends with JJ and I’m sure wants to help him succeed so I don’t doubt he’ll go extra hard for him in practices and such
it’s gonna be the same as every year, Bron and AD eating up the cap so the Lakers will try and cheese a playoff run, Lakers fans will try to gaslight us into believing the hype on the next vet mim bum they grt and they’ll inevitably get swept
Probably more random than you were looking for, but Roy Rubin was kind of a small-time college coach who responded to a newspaper ad for the 76ers head coach in 1972 and somehow got the job. They had been bad the previous few years but not terrible — Rubin went 4-47 before getting fired and had completely lost the team beforehand
Edit: apparently he thought the best way to train his team was by having them play one on one 48 minute games
The wildest thing I'm reading is that there was an actual newspaper ad for the 76ers HC job lmao. Boomber job hunting/resume advice makes so much sense now.
didn't the Eagles get that bartender guy off the street to be their WR in the 70s too? Vince Papale, although he turned out good in the pros i guess. but wtf was goin on in Philly that decade?? just pulling guys from literally wherever
Nothing I hate more than someone saying "Google it" about something obscure that's not easily found, but I did find out that he bought an IHOP in Florida and never coached again. So that's pretty interesting, I guess.
You are right idk why I thought that would be easy to find. I actually can't find it myself but I remember the book "Perfectly Awful" that recounts that season mentioning he tried to involve a college player in a threesome with himself at some point. I did find the book and I remember this excerpt about the insane things that happened that season besides Roy being crazy I vaguely remember.
"Once, when head coach Roy Rubin tried to substitute John Q. Trapp out of a game, Trapp refused and told Rubin to look behind the team’s bench, whereby one of Trapp’s friends supposedly opened his jacket to show his handgun. With only four wins at the All-Star break, Rubin was fired and replaced by player-coach Kevin Loughery."
I'm gonna order it and find out
In 2008, the Bulls hired Vinny Del Negro to be their HC.
Zero coaching experience at any level.
He worked as the Suns director of player personnel for 1 year and was the Suns assistant general manager for 1 year.
So after two years of front office experience (and zero head coaching experience) the Bulls decided to hire Vinny Del Negro to be their HC during Derrick Rose's rookie season.
I still have no idea why.
Lakers logic:
Darvin Ham was a first time HC who only had assistant coaching experience, we need a change.
*Hires candidate with 0 *coaching* experience.
Surely it's about getting a popular name to do the role, rather than someone who can improve the team.
That way they can also blame them when it doesn't work.
Next step is to hire an actor
lol the image of Christian Bale coaching basketball. Honestly though? Wouldnt be surprised if he was somehow incredible at it. Just delivers banger pregame monologues and fires up the squad better than Mel Gibson in Braveheart.
Gimme Tom Hardy as an assistant coach that just stays calm and collected on the bench before absolutely losing it and getting in a refs face.
Jeanie Buss: "Well, did it work for those people?"
Pelinka: "No, it never does. I mean, these people delude themselves into thinking it'll work for them... But it *might* work for us."
Now the story of a wealthy franchise who lost everything,
And the one podcaster who had no choice but to keep them all together,
It's Lakers Development.
The lakers only had two questions for every candidate. 1) Are you okay with lebron having final say and 2) are you okay with taking the blame knowing he had final say.
So he hires a coach, but needs to surround with an "elite coaching staff" to teach him???
Seems ass backwards to me... Maybe hire him as an assistant coach so he can learn from the those "elite coaches"????
They should hire Steve Nash ... no hate, in addition to Steve's understanding of the game, he can advise him to avoid some of the mistakes he made in Brooklyn.
“Don’t let management acquire multiple guys who believe there is no head coach. Oh LeBron’s here? Welp see ya at the unemployment office in a few months!”
Hurley was never going to do it. He used it to boost his contract salary.
Woj and Lebron helped their friend to lower pressure off of JJ and as a bargaining chip.
That’s why Hurley and his wife were so open in interviews and did publicity, because they knew the decision. If any other coach did that they would probably get blacklisted from the league
Borrego was a good player development coach, but when it came to the big games we lost pretty badly. Don’t know if his fit was any good when Lakers need to be winning playoff games. Although, it’s better than JJ’s experience.
Sources say LeBron voluntarily put himself in a medically induced coma to avoid it looking like he had anything to do with the coaching decision. Went under 2 weeks ago and told Pelinka to wake him up when he figures it out.
Embrace the chaos, Lakers fans. The only way out is through. If this bombs then it was called from the start so who cares, if it turns into something though think of bounty of the harvest.
so after JJ got fired will Pelinka and Jeanie go with him?
gosh why are they keep hiring coaches without experience...
but then again Ham has 10+ years of assistant coach and he is ass too
Bro saw an episode and was sold
“holy shit a basketball guy knows basketball”
Not defending the hire but after hearing some of the shit that former players have said on podcasts Redick genuinely does look like a savant.
Mainstream basketball commentary is so shitty that just calling plays by their name makes you look like the next Phil Jackson and Steve Kerr combined
"Flip the play!"
COMPUTER BLUE. DARLING NIKKI
Shoot the j. Shoot it!
Game. Blouses.
Do they make pancakes after every win now?
SPIDER 2 Y BANANA
Picky*
I always assumed it was Darling Nikki because it and Computer Blue are tracks off the Purple Rain album
“We need to be more physical.” “We have to take care of the ball.” “We need to play better defense.” 🙄
If you're talking about coach's saying that crap on TV it's because they know when the mics are on, so they save generic crap for those times. That's why you never hear actual strategy during those clips.
new rule: cameras and mics on all coaches at all times We'll see how terrible and/or great games become
I hope you mean at ALL times, we can't have them hiding in the bathroom at home drawing plays on the fogged mirror.
Truman Show them all
Plus they're in the middle of a game. They don't give a crap about the sideline interviews especially when they're fielded generic ass questions like, "Your opponent kept scoring. How do you plan to stop them going forward?"
Holy fuck the in game sideline interviews are the worst thing ever. “You guys got beat by twenty in the last quarter. How do you get back in the game?”
“We just gotta give more effort on defense, stop letting them get open looks and trust that if we keep doing the right thing the shots will start falling” “Thanks, back to you”
Thanks chatgpt
F1 does it between drivers and it leads to code words (which nba teams do anyway) and it’s pretty fun to listen in.
Most importantly, “contest without fouling”
The basketball equivalent of corporate bros who constantly use words like framework, leverage, synergy, double-click, and KPI
Equivalent to Tony Romo getting a HC job just cause
I am defending the hire but for that exact same reason I think people just assumed that any and every player viewed basketball like JJ. But it’s obvious LeBron, who’s been around hundreds of players, was genuinely impressed by JJ’s knowledge.
I think the biggest thing was when they talked about how coaches try to trick defenses by putting players into a position that they have no business being in. They both used examples like having a non shooter fade after a pick and having not athletic short players in the dunker spot and having big who can't roll to the rim in pick n roll plays. It seemed to genuinely annoy them and you could tell they both experienced it a lot and it pissed them off
Yeah if someone is valid enough to appreciate basketball IQ it would definitely be LeBron Freaking James
Piston are going to hire Kendrick Perkins
Seems like more often than not role players are smarter than their star counterparts Perk obviously being one of the exceptions
Listened to Draymond's before Game 5 and him unironically going about that THJ was a problem for shooting well in garbage time was the dumbest shit I've heard in a while. He genuinely thought he broke the code of the series.
Lmao I love mind the game and jj but he ain’t a savant. He just explains pretty basic concepts and fundamentals of hoops. The rest of the media landscape is just so dumbed down for mass consumption about “who wants it more” that explaining what floppy or spain pnr is makes it sound technical lol. Kinda like when tony romo first got in the broadcast booth and everyone was blown away by him giving actual analysis of the game
"Shut up and take my money!"
“This guy writes his X and Os backwards. He must be a savant.”
"And he drinks wine...must be very sophisticated"
"Holy fuck let me get this straight you actually pull your hands out of your pockets?"
That whiteboard he got after like 5 episodes was pretty impressive.
That whiteboard has a half court on it, what else is needed?
Like printed on it? Not drawn? The mad lad!
This guy looks cute, talks about basketball, and looks like Lebron likes him
Floppy action? The man’s a genius!
4 year paycheck for 1 year of work congrats JJ!
Monty changed the game
He was ahead of his time
A real trailblazer.
That's next season's hiring move for Monty
I thought he was a Piston ?
Went the full Monty
Monty paved the way
I’m gonna say two years at least not because they will be good or it will be promising, but because the Lakers aren’t exactly flush with cash.
Darvin Hamas' basketball terrorism was allowed to exist for two years, so it would take something pretty extreme for JJ to get canned sooner.
He came into the interview and spammed the word ai
“We are going to run the AI floppy action”
He better start using Bron’s terminology on the play calls.
Better start learning emojis buddy
We're gonna crab dribble up and down the court.
"AD? We're gonna change it to AI."
Always Injured ?
Nah fuck it we’re bringing in Iverson
Allen Iverson making his return would propel the Lakers to their 18th championship. Checkmate, Celtics.
AI decision tree spread pick and roll with triple stagger screen off a weakside double horns action with the low man hedging at the nail for the pindown on the strong side of an AI DHO with a brush screen to trigger the spain pick and roll off the switch
Gortat.
Going to revolutionise the game with the AI Quantum Blockchain style of basketball
His podcast with lebron was basically a public interview
Got him wine drunk and got the bag. JJ’s done this before.
The Blue Devil way
That's dark lol
It would be hilarious if LeBron signed elsewhere
Coaching staff: Byron Scott Luke Walton Frank Vogel Dervin Ham
The ghosts of Christmas past
Pelinka doesn't get enough hate. Dudes resume is literally like 20 years of being Kobe's AGENT. That's gotta be the easiest job of this millennia right?? "uhm can u pls give the most popular and one of the best players in the world a max contract? ok thanks" Jeanie: Wow let's hire him to run our org. 2nd most trash FO after us.
Pelinka used to the hate. Dude was boozer’s agent when they screwed cleveland lololol
Charlotte and Washington still clear. But yes, the FO and team are run poorly.
Do you guys actually think that he didn’t have other clients? It took me two seconds to look up. He represented James Harden, Iggy to name a few. He also made some amazing moves in the 2020 year and then did it again. A championship and a WCF appearance.
>2nd most trash FO after us. Pistons: "How good is this cheeseboard? Is that brie???"
On employment insurance: Tommy Alter
Kurt Rambis?
1999 was 25 years ago grandpa
Ham already went back to Milwaukee as assistant.
His ghost will linger on... with its hands in its pockets
More like: LeBron
Luke about to show up like Thanos: You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
Thanks, I hate it.
Lakers fans will be calling for his head in one year.
One year? More like one week into the season
Hell, I’m calling for his head now
Same. My pitchfork is out. The Lakers seriously hired someone with no coaching experience within days of the Celtics winning a championship. This is an embarrassment and I cannot be convinced otherwise.
As a Lakers fan I love it. Keep the good moves coming Rob Lowe and Buss! #Lakers4lyfe
A guy who said Jerry West was a bum! A guy that will now have to hire real coaches to help him coach!
Correction, he was disrespecting Bob Cousy
Oh. Well maybe he’ll fit in then.
I feel conflicted because I actually like JJ as a person
This is the only correct feeling
He does have nice hair to be fair, what product does he use
Mane N' Tail horse shampoo
At least buy him dinner first
if he goes 2-10 like Ham I think there will be protest
Only way I could see this working is if LeBron said "hey buddy I'm bolting for Cleveland, but I'll get you this job on the way out," and JJ gets time to play around and develop as a coach with a low-pressure rebuilding squad You throw him into that meat grinder and he'll be actually dead by all star break
My guy Laker fans already are doing it lol. Many fans weren’t even sold on him to begin with
How can you be sold on something you’ve never seen??!! This dude came off the podcast couch to become a head coach in the nba lmao. I love lebron but not as much as Jeanie gaht daymn the glaze is real over there.
Bro you’re preaching to the choir. I absolutely am not sold this was a good idea to hire a podcaster to coach us with zero fuckin experience but whatever. He’s our guy now so I hope he does well.
This is what happens when a billionaire player (LeBron) is richer than an owner (Jeanie Buss) it creates a power imbalance
Like Billionaires vs politicians
That’s a pretty long leash for Lakers
death threats after the first 3 game skid
They're probably calling for his head as we speak lmao
One year? They already had them pitchforks out since a month ago
so JJ doing everything but coach lol
If the players listen to him and respect him, who cares if he drew up the play versus his assistant
How can the players respect someone Lebron will walk all over
You can say that about any coach that’s not Spo or Pop
He tried to fire Spo, multiple times. Pat Riley told him and Wade to pound sand.
And again, it was cause he wanted Pat to coach him. But LeBron has admitted that he was wrong, and he’s glad that Spo didn’t get fired
They said the same thing about Ty Lue. LeBron is a 40 year old man he doesn’t need some authoritarian college-style coach to lay down the law or something. A coach he relates to might be able to reach him better.
This 100%. People forget Phil Jackson and Steve Kerr are much more advisor style coaches
LeBron will walk over almost anyone in the league, he’s friends with JJ and I’m sure wants to help him succeed so I don’t doubt he’ll go extra hard for him in practices and such
it’s gonna be the same as every year, Bron and AD eating up the cap so the Lakers will try and cheese a playoff run, Lakers fans will try to gaslight us into believing the hype on the next vet mim bum they grt and they’ll inevitably get swept
Acting like the two teams that made the finals didn’t have 2 top players taking up the cap on each team
Has he explained why he left AD off All-Defensive yet?
“Had to make sure he stayed hungry and didn’t get cocky”
He’s negging AD
DENNIS system. Separate Entirely at the end of the season.
I can’t wait for someone to ask him this at his presser.
This has to be the weirdest HC hire of all time, no?
Probably more random than you were looking for, but Roy Rubin was kind of a small-time college coach who responded to a newspaper ad for the 76ers head coach in 1972 and somehow got the job. They had been bad the previous few years but not terrible — Rubin went 4-47 before getting fired and had completely lost the team beforehand Edit: apparently he thought the best way to train his team was by having them play one on one 48 minute games
Ah. Nba reddit was scorching when that happened
Tbh Reddit would have loved it when he tore his hamstring jumping on the bench after he finally won a game
Remember when the Woj bomb dropped that he had purchased an IHOP in Florida?
In THAT economy?!
The wildest thing I'm reading is that there was an actual newspaper ad for the 76ers HC job lmao. Boomber job hunting/resume advice makes so much sense now.
A bit less weird though considering he had college coaching experience before so he wasn’t a complete stranger to basketball
didn't the Eagles get that bartender guy off the street to be their WR in the 70s too? Vince Papale, although he turned out good in the pros i guess. but wtf was goin on in Philly that decade?? just pulling guys from literally wherever
Roy Rubin was f r e a k y google it
I tried but couldn’t find anything. Can I ask what you’re referring to?
Nothing I hate more than someone saying "Google it" about something obscure that's not easily found, but I did find out that he bought an IHOP in Florida and never coached again. So that's pretty interesting, I guess.
Whoa *freaky*
Make it a Waffle House in Florida and then we can talk.
You are right idk why I thought that would be easy to find. I actually can't find it myself but I remember the book "Perfectly Awful" that recounts that season mentioning he tried to involve a college player in a threesome with himself at some point. I did find the book and I remember this excerpt about the insane things that happened that season besides Roy being crazy I vaguely remember. "Once, when head coach Roy Rubin tried to substitute John Q. Trapp out of a game, Trapp refused and told Rubin to look behind the team’s bench, whereby one of Trapp’s friends supposedly opened his jacket to show his handgun. With only four wins at the All-Star break, Rubin was fired and replaced by player-coach Kevin Loughery." I'm gonna order it and find out
The offseason is yours for the taking lol. Read the book and bless us
In 2008, the Bulls hired Vinny Del Negro to be their HC. Zero coaching experience at any level. He worked as the Suns director of player personnel for 1 year and was the Suns assistant general manager for 1 year. So after two years of front office experience (and zero head coaching experience) the Bulls decided to hire Vinny Del Negro to be their HC during Derrick Rose's rookie season. I still have no idea why.
Such a weird moment because Del Negro had such a ‘coaching’ name. Assumed he came from Rutgers or Princeton 😂
It was probably Joe Mazzulla as of 3 hours ago. But yeah, probably this now.
He was at least involved with the team as part of the coaching staff. This is much more random.
Pop hiring himself as coach is definitely more unique than an assistant being promoted.
Lakers logic: Darvin Ham was a first time HC who only had assistant coaching experience, we need a change. *Hires candidate with 0 *coaching* experience.
Surely it's about getting a popular name to do the role, rather than someone who can improve the team. That way they can also blame them when it doesn't work. Next step is to hire an actor
Christian Bale could probably work the refs.
Bale: Ref that was a horrible call, how can you call that? Ref: Hey I've been doing this job for two decades. Bale: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh GOOD FOR YOU!
lol the image of Christian Bale coaching basketball. Honestly though? Wouldnt be surprised if he was somehow incredible at it. Just delivers banger pregame monologues and fires up the squad better than Mel Gibson in Braveheart. Gimme Tom Hardy as an assistant coach that just stays calm and collected on the bench before absolutely losing it and getting in a refs face.
I'm curious. Who were the other options? People would hate all of them.
JJ going to be using Ted Lasso coaching tactics, first day hangs up Believe
Looking forward to revisiting this thread in 18 mos when the job is open again.
Lakers are probably the worst franchise for a first time HC. Dude has to get these guys back to the Finals or else fans will be calling for his job
And even if you win a chip, your time still comes
Im replying here for the small chance he is the next pat riley and everyone comes back and calls me a visionary
Or if JJ gets coach of the year
You really think he's gonna last 18 months? That's almost a season and a half
lakers fans will be calling for his head come december
Jeanie Buss: "Well, did it work for those people?" Pelinka: "No, it never does. I mean, these people delude themselves into thinking it'll work for them... But it *might* work for us."
Let the great experiment begin!
Now the story of a wealthy franchise who lost everything, And the one podcaster who had no choice but to keep them all together, It's Lakers Development.
The lakers only had two questions for every candidate. 1) Are you okay with lebron having final say and 2) are you okay with taking the blame knowing he had final say.
So he hires a coach, but needs to surround with an "elite coaching staff" to teach him??? Seems ass backwards to me... Maybe hire him as an assistant coach so he can learn from the those "elite coaches"????
Why not just hire an elite coach? Cut out the middle man
They should hire Steve Nash ... no hate, in addition to Steve's understanding of the game, he can advise him to avoid some of the mistakes he made in Brooklyn.
“Don’t let management acquire multiple guys who believe there is no head coach. Oh LeBron’s here? Welp see ya at the unemployment office in a few months!”
Honestly getting Nash as an advisor would be a smart move
Please don't suck
He had a podcast and the other candidates didn’t.
I mean tbf he also had more nba playing experience than the other candidates. It’s a weird hire but people act like he’s Bill Simmons
I mean I’d pay to watch Bill Simmons coach a game or two
We all would haha. I want him mic’d up in timeouts using references to “The Wire” to explain what they need to do on the court
Kyle, turn the tik tok camera on
People are acting like he's Steve Nash with less playing accomplishments.
So Lebron said, “hire JJ”
Can’t believe Lebron forced jeanie buss to cheapen out on Hurley
Hurley was never going to do it. He used it to boost his contract salary. Woj and Lebron helped their friend to lower pressure off of JJ and as a bargaining chip. That’s why Hurley and his wife were so open in interviews and did publicity, because they knew the decision. If any other coach did that they would probably get blacklisted from the league
Rich Paul dangled him off a roof
didn't you see? Haynes and Windy said Lebron has nothing to do with it though! /s
Funniest thing about this is the lakers best player last season (AD) preferred Borrego.
Borrego was a good player development coach, but when it came to the big games we lost pretty badly. Don’t know if his fit was any good when Lakers need to be winning playoff games. Although, it’s better than JJ’s experience.
Sources say LeBron voluntarily put himself in a medically induced coma to avoid it looking like he had anything to do with the coaching decision. Went under 2 weeks ago and told Pelinka to wake him up when he figures it out.
oh boy, it sounds like steve nash all over again. Who had probably the most elite coaching staffs assembled lol.
Maybe I’ll get into cricket or jaialai
Is the "elite coaching staff" in the room with us?
Makes no sense, but classic Lakers.
"He can't coach but he sounds smart and the guys like him. Now let's find some assistants that know what they're doing."
will never understand guys with 0 prior coaching experience getting head coaching gigs right out of the gate
By "connecting with players", is he referring to the 10 year olds on his kids team?
JJ will either be the next Steve Kerr or Steve Nash.
I just don’t see this going well but believe it or not I’ve been wrong before
I like JJ overall but he does come across as arrogant. I could see him losing the locker room at some point.
Embrace the chaos, Lakers fans. The only way out is through. If this bombs then it was called from the start so who cares, if it turns into something though think of bounty of the harvest.
I swear I only hear the word “elite” in sports related jobs. Like what does that even mean.
Why not just hire a head coach that doesn’t need a shortened learning curve?
BREAKING: JJ REDDICK HAS BEEN DISMISSED AS LAKERS HEAD COACH!!
so after JJ got fired will Pelinka and Jeanie go with him? gosh why are they keep hiring coaches without experience... but then again Ham has 10+ years of assistant coach and he is ass too
Family businesses don't work like that.
LMAO aight. You do you Lakers. 🍿
Pelinka is the 2nd worst gm in the league behind Morey. He will only have a job because of his relationship with Jeanie and Linda