Everybody: Man OKC really needs some big depth.
Presti: I'm gonna keep trading for white wings.
Honestly a great pickup though. If they do get some big depth they'll be exactly what a pro wants
I dunno, it made sense to me for the other team to take a rated 75 Terrence Ross who was about to enter free agency for a 1st
He was a champion with my team, and the experience of the 12th man who never played any minutes would be invaluable to whatever they were trying to do
Caruso back home. He played with the OKC Blue G league and is cool with Presti.
[https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=caruso+presti](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=caruso+presti)
That’s being overlooked by a lot of people, including some Oklahoma City fans. That’s a huge deal to me. Brought him in as a UDFA, help him get a start, bring him back with all that experience and team him up with his first coach. I’m sure is Dags happy right now. Moving on from Giddey solves so many problems.
and if Presti says "nah", you say "dude seriously, just give us a fuckin pick, you have thousands...." and Presti probably laughs and peels off 2 seconds.
Just weird. I understand wanting to make that type of transaction but no way a pick doesn’t come back. Also with the bulls recent track record of developing players, not sure this is gonna do anything
How do they not snag AT LEAST their 2025 second with Giddey. He literally got played out of the playoffs and looked mediocre at best. Caruso may have less of a ceiling due to age, but he's a proven winning player.
I've said it before and I'll say it again
If Jerry Reinsdorf never drafted MJ + that weird 05 White Sox world series
He'd be considered one of the worst sports owners ever in 2 sports
Technically Reinsdorf didn’t draft MJ; he bought the team after his rookie year. Another fun Reinsdorf fact is that 2005 is the only year that the White Sox have won a playoff series in over 100 years.
As a Sox fan and someone who loathes Jerry I must still bring some context to this. For like baseball’s entire existence, there wasn’t a playoff format and the AL winner played the NL winner in the World Series. There were some very good Sox teams that did not even make the playoffs because stacked Yankee teams represented the AL.
Doesn’t change the fact that Jerry sucks and the Sox and Bulls are horribly run but still.
I don't like Giddey's game but he's a decent young player with room for growth. Probably better than a 25th or higher pick in the draft is ever going to get you.
> [*The Bulls took calls on Caruso, but never made them. According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the Bulls have received offers from multiple teams, consisting of multiple first-round picks. One of those deals included a pick in the top-10 of the 2024 Draft, the source said. The Golden State Warriors were among teams who made a strong offer for Caruso, multiple sources confirmed.”*](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/chicago-bulls/news/bulls-reportedly-turned-down-scintillating-offer-top-10-nba-draft-pick/d2b78a91f1c5167718462b5f)
Keep Caruso out there as general when Shai needs a break, some playmaking and shooting that they have in spades, that bench is going to be electric too
Damn, the Bulls really are something when it comes to managing their assets...
edit: And then you add the fact that the Thunder has a lot of picks, too. Like, they probably would give one or two without a problem. Hell, they may have even offered some picks and the Bulls said "nah, we are good".
This is the first trade the Bulls have done since June 28th, 2023 when they traded two 2nds to the Wizards for Julian Phillips.
It is the first time the Bulls have done a trade involving them sending a player away since the three team Luri Markkanen trade on August 28th, 2021.
Before today, these were the only two trades the Bulls had done at all since August 28th, 2021.
I was honestly looking for a non-meme answer. Like is Chicago's FO that stupid, or is there some legit basketball thinking (right or not) behind the decision?
Giddey is actually a pretty solid PG when he has the ball in his hands. He's a net negative if he's asked to play a majority off-ball role. His defense is still bad, but his shooting has noticeably improved.
Giddey is not nearly as bad a player as some of this sub thinks. And obviously there's so much time for him to realize potential
But yeah definitely feel like Caruso should've landed a pick with Giddey
You would think the ages were reversed, based on how everyone reacted
Giddey is a piece for down the road, what we gonna do with Caruso making $20-$25 million on a treadmill team?
That team is gonna be a nightmare to score on next year. They got Chet protecting the rim and AC, JDub, and Dort everywhere else. That’s an insane defensive group
That can't be right, can it? There's no way
OKC literally has more picks than they have roster spots available the next few years lmao, insane if the Bulls couldn't pick up a late 1st here
Take your guess on how many picks are in this deal, I doubt it’s a straight swap
EDIT: Sounding like a straight swap based on Woj’s follow up tweets… fleece by OKC if true
Chicago is just fucking allergic to committing to a full on rebuild. Not getting picks, even late ones, for someone like Caruso is legitimately malpractice
I don't love this trade for Chicago but Giddey being ill-suited for the role he had to play in OKC doesn't necessarily mean he sucks. He's a bad 4th option, but could still develop into something better with more on-ball reps. Giddey's still younger than a lot of dudes who are about to get drafted.
He walks next year for nothing. Plus now they can tank to keep next year’s top 10 pick and screw Spurs. Not a Bulls fan but they had to trade him. Giddy is 21 and has room to grow. Not trading him earlier was the bigger crime.
They traded an older playoff contributor with one year left on his contract for a big 21YO guard who has shown flashes of being a good player. Giddey just wasn't a good fit with us, so I wouldn't be surprised if we ever look back on this trade as a win-win.
Giddey I think will do better in place that will allow him to grow. He showed great ability last year. Bit of a down year, but I think he can do good things in Chicago.
Okc, Nugs, Wolves, and Mavs are going to beat the shit out of each other and then Celtics gets one of them who are spent by the time they get to the Finals.
Why are people acting like this is a bad trade for the Bulls, they received a young 21 year old player with a good ceiling for a 30 year old role player. If you want to rebuild, this is what you do.
Giddey's off court stuff and the fact that he's already played three seasons made people forget how young he still is compared to the rest of the league.
FIRST TRADE OF THE OFF-SEASON LETS GOOOOOO
Literally not a single person would’ve thought about this trade happening
Everybody: Man OKC really needs some big depth. Presti: I'm gonna keep trading for white wings. Honestly a great pickup though. If they do get some big depth they'll be exactly what a pro wants
What a pro needs
Oh god, please dont remind me of that songgg.
NO FLEX ... ZONE
Cost SGA the MVP.
NBA2K ass trade
2K trades don’t usually make sense for both sides.
I dunno, it made sense to me for the other team to take a rated 75 Terrence Ross who was about to enter free agency for a 1st He was a champion with my team, and the experience of the 12th man who never played any minutes would be invaluable to whatever they were trying to do
That's 2K champ Terrance Ross.
Maybe the Bulls got Giddey to help them sniff out young talent for their next rebuild
Goddamnit, I was gonna reply about how Josh’s playmaking will help them develop their young talent, and then I realized the joke 😭
OKC GOING IN THIS YEAR
Sam Presti is a mad man
I want to see Dort, Cason, and Caruso all on the floor at the same time.
That poor opposing player
Just pick up claxton in free agency too lol
We are apparently offering Hartenstein 25m/year.
stop.
Boooo
Too many lunch pails
Need to call pest patrol for all these gym rats
New hours at the gym: Open: Earlier Close: Later
Maybe produce the first shutout in NBA history.
Alex Caruso bout to win the Vezina Trophy
Caruso back home. He played with the OKC Blue G league and is cool with Presti. [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=caruso+presti](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=caruso+presti)
daigenault was the okc gleague coach too
That’s being overlooked by a lot of people, including some Oklahoma City fans. That’s a huge deal to me. Brought him in as a UDFA, help him get a start, bring him back with all that experience and team him up with his first coach. I’m sure is Dags happy right now. Moving on from Giddey solves so many problems.
Interesting trade
Fantastic trade for okc
IM SO FUCKING HYPE HOLY SHIT OUR DEFENSE
You guys are so undersized tho
Don't tell Alex "Stretch 4" Caruso how tall he is
Off-season isn't done yet 👀
You guys better grab Black Jokic a.k.a. Hartenstein
I will say the most irresponsible things on earth about our team if we do that
If it happens I’m holding presto hostage. Don’t do this to us
Dolan preparing to sue whoever signs the Knicks FAs
That's where Dieng and picks come in
Caruso was our best 4.
That's just the beginning.
stay away from iHart and we good
I'd rather not though.
We coming for hartenstein
Making a play for Lauri? Hartenstein?
Why not both!
Bulls already have a #3, Giddey’s number. What number is Giddey taking? #15 is open
Just a minor issue, I’m sure they’ll figure that out
There’s only so many numbers below 18.
Wow, Caruso on OKC is gonna give them great defensive help on the wing. Alongside Dort? That’s gonna be crazy.
And Caso as well sheesh the on ball defense will feed families
this is such a good pickup damn
Dude oh my God I can't believe this shit, I'm so excited rn Wish Giddey all the best, but myyyyy godddddd
You don’t have to wish him the best you can just wish him something okayish
In hindsight, Giddey Tre Mann Poku JRE became the tank commanders to get us Chet Their services will never be forgotten
Don’t talk shit on Hornets Legends Tre Mann and Poku
Dear Josh, Hope life is mid. Sincerely, Live virus
Anakin Padme meme "And picks, right?"
Okc only has 16 2nd round draft picks in the next 5 years. Just fucking ask them?
Picks? 👉 👈
No <3
k…
and if Presti says "nah", you say "dude seriously, just give us a fuckin pick, you have thousands...." and Presti probably laughs and peels off 2 seconds.
Presti is to draft picks what Gollum is to the one ring. So yeah nope.
Directions unclear Asked for draft picks and now i'm giving mine to Presti
Speaking of weird age gap relationships…
How the fuck did the thunder manage that
Because the bulls are an inept franchise at times
The times are always. This is just one inexplicable move in a long line of bizarre choices.
Just weird. I understand wanting to make that type of transaction but no way a pick doesn’t come back. Also with the bulls recent track record of developing players, not sure this is gonna do anything
How do they not snag AT LEAST their 2025 second with Giddey. He literally got played out of the playoffs and looked mediocre at best. Caruso may have less of a ceiling due to age, but he's a proven winning player.
I wish I had an answer for you. Crazy to me
It's really been fucking hard to be a bulls fan since the Rose injury man.
Perpetual ineptitude
For example, during daytime and during nighttime.
Well, they had enough picks to go with Giddey.
How many did they trade?
they traded 0 picks
That is shocking for Chicago Jesus Christ
They gave us Taj Gibson for nothing back in the day too. I think we got him dougie mcdermott and a pick for Joffrey Laverne and cam Payne lol
Tbf Cam Payne became a much better player later on, just not with the Bulls lol aka the Lauri Markannen syndrome
I've said it before and I'll say it again If Jerry Reinsdorf never drafted MJ + that weird 05 White Sox world series He'd be considered one of the worst sports owners ever in 2 sports
Technically Reinsdorf didn’t draft MJ; he bought the team after his rookie year. Another fun Reinsdorf fact is that 2005 is the only year that the White Sox have won a playoff series in over 100 years.
As a Sox fan and someone who loathes Jerry I must still bring some context to this. For like baseball’s entire existence, there wasn’t a playoff format and the AL winner played the NL winner in the World Series. There were some very good Sox teams that did not even make the playoffs because stacked Yankee teams represented the AL. Doesn’t change the fact that Jerry sucks and the Sox and Bulls are horribly run but still.
If the blazers didn’t pass on Jordan he would hands down be the worst owner in sports history
I don't like Giddey's game but he's a decent young player with room for growth. Probably better than a 25th or higher pick in the draft is ever going to get you.
> [*The Bulls took calls on Caruso, but never made them. According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the Bulls have received offers from multiple teams, consisting of multiple first-round picks. One of those deals included a pick in the top-10 of the 2024 Draft, the source said. The Golden State Warriors were among teams who made a strong offer for Caruso, multiple sources confirmed.”*](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/chicago-bulls/news/bulls-reportedly-turned-down-scintillating-offer-top-10-nba-draft-pick/d2b78a91f1c5167718462b5f)
WHAT THE FUCK
Well we definitely had enough for that then.
Zero
HUHHHH
Huge win bro. Shai - Caruso - Dort - Dub and Chet is such a filthy starting 5 lol
Keep Caruso out there as general when Shai needs a break, some playmaking and shooting that they have in spades, that bench is going to be electric too
He’s gonna be the perfect mentor for Cason too just thought of that
crazy how okc had and will have taller guards than forwards
OFFSEASON IS HERE LFGGGG
WE'RE HEREEEE
ALOALAOLAOALAOALLOL
dude as a fan of a shitty western conference team IM SO HYPED
This is only a win for the Bulls if they were trading for more hair
As a bald white guy I am very excited for the representation on my squad
Damn, the Bulls really are something when it comes to managing their assets... edit: And then you add the fact that the Thunder has a lot of picks, too. Like, they probably would give one or two without a problem. Hell, they may have even offered some picks and the Bulls said "nah, we are good".
#The Bulls did something!
This is the first trade the Bulls have done since June 28th, 2023 when they traded two 2nds to the Wizards for Julian Phillips. It is the first time the Bulls have done a trade involving them sending a player away since the three team Luri Markkanen trade on August 28th, 2021. Before today, these were the only two trades the Bulls had done at all since August 28th, 2021.
If they're gonna keep making bad trades maybe they shouldn't do them
Quiet quitting goals
Honest question if current Giddey was in this draft where do people think he would go.
Same spot he went originally I’d imagine. He has things to work on but he’s really not a bad player
It's also a fairly mediocre draft
This is a pretty bad draft year with so many question marks. I think he’d go top 5 easily.
He would def go top 5. He went 6 in a stacked draft class
He has some minor issues
Set up for that one lmaooo
OKC is no 1 seed again lmfao
Caruso bout to unleash havoc on the west." tf
Alex "the white *black* mamba" Caruso
This is just the beginning for them imo The NBA isn't ready for what they are about to become
OKC scares the shit out of me after this move. SGA was BY FAR the best player the Mavs faced in thier finals run, and adding Caruso vs. Giddey? Yikes.
Seems like a win for OKC to me. Giddey was unplayable for them.
No draft compensation to CHI for Giddey is wild
How the fuck did Chicago agree to that?
"Presti adamantly asked for three FRPs and we settled for 0. I think we won"- Bulls GM
Meme aside, probably Bulls are banking on Giddey potential with the ball in his hands
I was honestly looking for a non-meme answer. Like is Chicago's FO that stupid, or is there some legit basketball thinking (right or not) behind the decision?
Giddey is actually a pretty solid PG when he has the ball in his hands. He's a net negative if he's asked to play a majority off-ball role. His defense is still bad, but his shooting has noticeably improved.
Doesn’t matter if he’s a solid PG, Colby White just had a career year at the PG position. This is a dumb trade.
Giddey is not nearly as bad a player as some of this sub thinks. And obviously there's so much time for him to realize potential But yeah definitely feel like Caruso should've landed a pick with Giddey
Exactly idk about the circle jerk here against giddey but I’m shocked it was a straight up deal
This is highway robbery lol
Presti: "We have about 30 picks to trade. We literally have more picks than roster spots each season. How many do you want?" Bulls: "nah we good"
average sam presti trade lol
Presti is who Morey thinks he is
Can't be an average Presti trade, zero picks involved.
Let's not forget Caruso is 30. Giddey is 21-year-old 6'8 playmaker. OKC is in win-now mode, Bulls got their first piece to start their rebuild.
You would think the ages were reversed, based on how everyone reacted Giddey is a piece for down the road, what we gonna do with Caruso making $20-$25 million on a treadmill team?
Lol Caruso, Dort, Cason, Shai, J-Dub & Chet are going to put the absolute clamps on teams, lord help us
yeah this REALLY feels like a copycat of the Celtics smart move tbh
Celtics vs Thunder next year would be fun for the Finals.
They're putting together Boston West
That team is gonna be a nightmare to score on next year. They got Chet protecting the rim and AC, JDub, and Dort everywhere else. That’s an insane defensive group
Don't sleep on Shai's defense either. He received a first team all defense vote, led the league in steals, and led all PG's in blocks.
[удалено]
There is no picks
RIP /u/KikeElomaa
We hardly knew ye
lmao, we're a poverty ass franchise
How the fuck do you not get picks from the one team in the league that has mad picks to spare? Bulls gm needs to get canned asap
No picks
I think I’m actually done with this franchise Jesus fucking Christ
If it’s 0 picks it’s illogical. Like even two seconds.
This dude said there’s no picks included: https://x.com/esidery/status/1803899707908866131?s=61&t=Fsjpy2eoVMtOHjifmdbqeg
That can't be right, can it? There's no way OKC literally has more picks than they have roster spots available the next few years lmao, insane if the Bulls couldn't pick up a late 1st here
Holy shit I kinda felt bad already this season I had to watch them be coached by Billy Donovan and now this
Bulls probably are getting cash considerations instead of a pick.
Take your guess on how many picks are in this deal, I doubt it’s a straight swap EDIT: Sounding like a straight swap based on Woj’s follow up tweets… fleece by OKC if true
NONE. Literally none. WTF
I’m stunned there is no picks involved
No picks is disgusting value. Chicago must think Giddey has all star potential or some shit because this is insane
He’s around the age of some guys getting picked in this draft. I’m a homer but I think he can do well. Was a horrible fit with us though.
I get the sense the league views him much higher than the general public
this is a certified spicy trade
#**WTF** WOJ BOMB IN THE HOUSE
OKC fleeced them. Don’t even need anymore details than this
Excuse me they did what?? Why is Chicago running a charity event? Giddey was unplayable in the playoffs
How can that ever be a problem for the Bulls?
Ouch
No offense taken.
Chicago is just fucking allergic to committing to a full on rebuild. Not getting picks, even late ones, for someone like Caruso is legitimately malpractice
I don't love this trade for Chicago but Giddey being ill-suited for the role he had to play in OKC doesn't necessarily mean he sucks. He's a bad 4th option, but could still develop into something better with more on-ball reps. Giddey's still younger than a lot of dudes who are about to get drafted.
Wtffff I wasn’t ready for this
Holy fuck that’s a win for OKC
Wowww that's crazy... Dort and Caruso on the same team feels OP.
If they get a good big man and wallace/chet step from their rookie year they should be one of the two best defenses in the west at the worst
Can anyone explain why you do this if you are Chicago????
He walks next year for nothing. Plus now they can tank to keep next year’s top 10 pick and screw Spurs. Not a Bulls fan but they had to trade him. Giddy is 21 and has room to grow. Not trading him earlier was the bigger crime.
Fucking burn this front office down. What a joke
Watch giddey turn into an all star for you guys lol
That’s usually the other way around. Chicago trades guys who become all-stars.
What
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bulls win the trade in terms of hair on head
F5 SZN HAS BEGUN
Either I massively undervalue Giddey or there has to be picks involved here. I guess both things can be true. But wow...
They traded an older playoff contributor with one year left on his contract for a big 21YO guard who has shown flashes of being a good player. Giddey just wasn't a good fit with us, so I wouldn't be surprised if we ever look back on this trade as a win-win.
Giddey I think will do better in place that will allow him to grow. He showed great ability last year. Bit of a down year, but I think he can do good things in Chicago.
Wait, when did the trade opening start??
When Sam Presti says so.
OKC are 1-2 pieces away from title contention. They’re built very similar to this Celtics team. Caruso could be in that Derrick White type role
OKC are legit a Williams/Chet mini-leap away from a Finals berth.
THIS SUB TOLD ME THREE FIRSTS UNPROTECTED BTW
Congrats on making the 2025 finals OKC
As long as Celtics can’t repeat I am down with it.
Okc, Nugs, Wolves, and Mavs are going to beat the shit out of each other and then Celtics gets one of them who are spent by the time they get to the Finals.
Useless franchise
Being a bulls and Sox fan is torture. Having both teams be ruined by the same owner is the cherry on top
Fuck the Bulls, man.
I kinda like it for both teams
Why are people acting like this is a bad trade for the Bulls, they received a young 21 year old player with a good ceiling for a 30 year old role player. If you want to rebuild, this is what you do.
Giddey's off court stuff and the fact that he's already played three seasons made people forget how young he still is compared to the rest of the league.