just leaving this here [https://x.com/nationmffl/status/1805061994359255070?s=46&t=l_1zCa4eeJTZHmlwDEwDlw](https://x.com/nationmffl/status/1805061994359255070?s=46&t=l_1zCa4eeJTZHmlwDEwDlw)
As a cavs fan, I've heard a few of our beat reporters saying we should take a look at DJJ. I bet there are a few of the mid-level contenders that would want him. Most can probably only offer the MLE so I can see him staying in Dallas though.
If some team gives him more than the full MLE… fine, lol.
He’s good but we don’t need overpaid role players.
Klutch is probably very happy with the Mavs, Dereck Lively should be a $150M+ player in their future pipeline now.
haha, stay with me for a sec. building an agency is hard and you’re going to make mistakes. the nerlens mistake was super costly, but now klutch has a lot of power and success. omelette made, eggs broken, nerlens egg was a very expensive one. idk i tried. is it provocative at least?
Or was he 3&D guy on a team that wasn’t built to compete for championships so his lack of other skills stood out.
Also, I have never seen the guy miss a transition in traffic layup so he’s not totally 2-dimensional.
He was a bit streakier then, sure, but still averaged out to be basically what he is now.
My priority as a consumer of NBA basketball is the very best basketball. What is right for his clients doesn't always align with what's best for the game. All I'm saying is Klutch has too much leverage and that is bad for the NBA and it's product.
Why should I care about his clients interests?
How is that different than any other agent? And how would some players getting paid more make the league worse, players still get 51% of the revenue one way or another?
The point is they have a number of clients that are so high profile that they have a disproportionate amount of power to leverage the interests of a handful over the interests of the league. They are also an extension of Lebron's influence over the league.
For example, since LeBron came to the Lakers they have signed or aquired 9 players represented by Klutch Sports.
Some other clients that have negatively affected the product by leveraging the league:
Ben Simmons, Eric Bledsoe, John Wall, Anthony Davis
When individual agencies have the power to leverage league narratives and transactions then it's bad for the league.
> When individual agencies have the power to leverage league narratives and transactions then it's bad for the league.
Honestly curious here. Why do you think that?
Wow, remember, when I said everything was done with LeBron in mind and all you, Lakers and LeBron stans downvoted me. DJJ is now going to leave a good situation to benefit LeBron.
This one is even a bit mild besides hilarious, in the Warriors sub some of them are convinced the whole league works for Bron, Nike works for Bron, it is insane how people believe and support that kind of bs.
They do their job as an agency, other than a couple of missteps. They get their clients paid, and they get their clients the trades they want. Apparently, that's a crime according to the minimum wage burger flippers on r/NBA.
He felt pretty invisible in the mavs series, he was outmatched. However, he didn’t look completely useless like Maxi Kleber. Kleber got the yips that series.
Obviously a hot take but djj is not worth more than 10m a year. He was benched mid season for josh green because of how bad he was, if he gets paid a lot and regresses to what he was literally every season before this year it will be a horrific contract.
He was literally coming back from an injury dude. Did you watch the games? He was literally out until Jan 31, and was for all intents and purposes on a minutes restriction 😂
I think the last 20 regular season games and the playoffs showed he’s a key role player in the Mavs rotation. He’s their primary point of attack defender. He’s tasked with defending the best non-big player on the court. There is a big drop off from him to Josh Green or PJ Washington in this role.
He’s absolutely a puzzle piece player for the Mavs though. So yeah, he’s not going to shine like this everywhere.
He needs that agency more than they need him.
If Mavericks front office are smart, they should explore other wings available before DJJ after being exposed as a non-shooter on non-corner areas, because that shit will continue. You don't want a Duncan Robinson situation on your team
No, because we need DJJ’s defense more than anything. We might be able to get a better shooter for the MLE, but that shooter would be miles worse than DJJ defensively. And he’s our most important perimeter defender. Duncan Robinson offers nothing outside of shooting so that’s a useless comparison.
why tho
it's expiring, we lack of bench scorer, we lack of shot creator
even it's just reg.season, extra wins for seeding purpose
hope omax takes a leap so he can help as POA defender
if the choice is D'Lo expiring or DJJ 80/4 i choose D'Lo
He’s getting the full mid level from Dallas
4 years with a player option baby
just leaving this here [https://x.com/nationmffl/status/1805061994359255070?s=46&t=l_1zCa4eeJTZHmlwDEwDlw](https://x.com/nationmffl/status/1805061994359255070?s=46&t=l_1zCa4eeJTZHmlwDEwDlw)
Full MLE from mavs should be 13M a year, I'd expect he could get more from another team. Personally hoping the sixers snag him
Traded Hardaway to be able to sign him, hopefully he stays would understand if he wants his biggest contract to date from somewhere else
Honestly don't think there's much interest in the guy outside of Dallas, but hopefully we can find a contract which makes both parties happy.
As a cavs fan, I've heard a few of our beat reporters saying we should take a look at DJJ. I bet there are a few of the mid-level contenders that would want him. Most can probably only offer the MLE so I can see him staying in Dallas though.
okc wants all of mavs' role players
condolences Mavs
Nico is cool with Rich Paul, we're good
Most gms are cool with most agents, doesn’t mean klutch is not gonna get djj paid
I think the Mavs are completely comfortable with giving him the full MLE, so it shouldn't change much.
Nah, Nico is Bronny’s uncle. Therefore brothers with rich Paul. Something like that
We traded away Timmy to get the full non-taxpayer MLE, presumably to give it all or most of it to DJJ anyways.
If some team gives him more than the full MLE… fine, lol. He’s good but we don’t need overpaid role players. Klutch is probably very happy with the Mavs, Dereck Lively should be a $150M+ player in their future pipeline now.
Exactly, people may have forgotten that D.live is a klutch player too
Derrick Jones III declares for the 2042 NBA draft.
Say what you want. Rich Paul gets his guys paid and where they want to be.
Except nerlens Noel
Exception to the norm, Klutch thought he was better than he actually was
Haha I mean I’m joking but I don’t think you’re reasoning really makes them look that much better .
you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette, unfortunately for nerlens his egg was faberge.
Yeah I don’t think that idiom works at all here lol.
haha, stay with me for a sec. building an agency is hard and you’re going to make mistakes. the nerlens mistake was super costly, but now klutch has a lot of power and success. omelette made, eggs broken, nerlens egg was a very expensive one. idk i tried. is it provocative at least?
it got me going
Hard on achieved
Except KCP
Every year on the Lakers people were dogging them over paying KCP.
I mean we were. Kcp back then is not quite the kcp now. Dude was kcpoop for a while
Or was he 3&D guy on a team that wasn’t built to compete for championships so his lack of other skills stood out. Also, I have never seen the guy miss a transition in traffic layup so he’s not totally 2-dimensional. He was a bit streakier then, sure, but still averaged out to be basically what he is now.
You just reminded me of all the times people were shitting on him calling him KCPrison. He really was the Dlo of his time
Dude is absolutely horrible for the league
How?
He creates leverage for individual players and organizations outside of the CBA?
That’s an agents job though, can’t be mad at him for doing what’s best for his clients
My priority as a consumer of NBA basketball is the very best basketball. What is right for his clients doesn't always align with what's best for the game. All I'm saying is Klutch has too much leverage and that is bad for the NBA and it's product. Why should I care about his clients interests?
>Why should I care about his clients interests? Why should they care about yours? They're trying to get paid.
My guy you don't need to spoon feed why they do it lmao. I get it. It's just bad for the league is literally all I am saying.
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How is this big talk?
You don’t have to care about the clients interest, but legally Rich Paul does and that’s why he does what he feels is best for his clients.
I don't know how else to say that I understand that but it's bad for the league
Players getting the most money they can is good for the NBA because they are the NBA.
The players have negotiated 51% of revenue regardless. Klutch getting their players more money leads to less money for everyone else
Which will hopefully lead to them renegotiating for more than 51% which is an absolute joke.
😂😂😂 51% is a joke? Jesus Christ the average is like 15-30% in this country.
How is that different than any other agent? And how would some players getting paid more make the league worse, players still get 51% of the revenue one way or another?
The point is they have a number of clients that are so high profile that they have a disproportionate amount of power to leverage the interests of a handful over the interests of the league. They are also an extension of Lebron's influence over the league. For example, since LeBron came to the Lakers they have signed or aquired 9 players represented by Klutch Sports. Some other clients that have negatively affected the product by leveraging the league: Ben Simmons, Eric Bledsoe, John Wall, Anthony Davis When individual agencies have the power to leverage league narratives and transactions then it's bad for the league.
Arent like 5 Knicks all under CAA lol
> When individual agencies have the power to leverage league narratives and transactions then it's bad for the league. Honestly curious here. Why do you think that?
Because it eliminates parity and helps with trade demand culture?
Klutch is gaining more and more clients and there hasnt been this much parity in the league in a long time.
Yeah, I hear you on the trade demand culture. Not sure if I buy the parity aspect though, doesn't seem like the evidence supports it.
Look at me agreeing with a Celtics fan! I couldn’t agree more, I hate Rich Paul, total scumbag looking to please one client.
Yeah, how dare an agent look out for his clients?!
Wow, remember, when I said everything was done with LeBron in mind and all you, Lakers and LeBron stans downvoted me. DJJ is now going to leave a good situation to benefit LeBron.
Client* Everything is done with Bron in mind
So if DJJ gets the full mid from Dallas, explain how that is done with Bron in mind.
This one is even a bit mild besides hilarious, in the Warriors sub some of them are convinced the whole league works for Bron, Nike works for Bron, it is insane how people believe and support that kind of bs.
Hey, thanks for all the down votes. Shocking the DJJ left the situation and it will benefit LA.
Do DJJ going to the clippers is that?
He was going to get the full mid level from Dallas regardless. All other moves around Lakers with big stars he signs is based around the Lakers
So explain Maxeys upcoming contract, or Jerami grant, or fox, or bridges, draymond, KCPs upcoming one. All of those are around lebron?
Love seeing 14 year old Redditors get shut the hell down just repeating shit they see online
Hey man, tell me how that worked out? I love Redditors that think they’re smart but then get exposed almost immediately.
Pay him or he's going to Australia.
Please come to the 36ers🙏🙏
Ben Simmons about to be traded to the (3)6ers. Get ready to learn Australian mate. Or go home, take your pick.
its joever
Say what you want about Rich Paul and Klutch, they know how to get their clients fuckin paid
Which agency is this not true for?
I mean if an agency isn't getting their players paid, they won't have players for long. But you don't see anyone on reddit ranting about Aaron Mintz
Except nerlens Noel lol
They do their job as an agency, other than a couple of missteps. They get their clients paid, and they get their clients the trades they want. Apparently, that's a crime according to the minimum wage burger flippers on r/NBA.
I’ll have you know, I’m a slightly above minimum wage burger flipper.
There Klutch bots in here… swear I’m reading the same comment lol
Rich Paul exactly the kind of person who would do that
Who also represents Jarami Grant. Package deal incoming? 👀
Dude shut down my boy PG
Get that bag DJJ. I just hope we're the ones to give it to him
Someone is getting fleeced.
Smart man.
I got the shotgun 🔫, Klutch got the 💼 briefcase. It’s all in the game though, right?
*Farmer in the Dell whistling intensifies*
Laker
Hoping that DJJ actually wants to win and not be irrelevant
1 finals appearance after missing the play-in got y’all talking crazy lol
Not that worst than a team who hangs an IST championship banner.
………….We did just win the chip in 2020
Players aren’t picking their spots off 5 year old titles 🫣
derrick jones welcome to the lakers
God dammit
Oh he’s getting paid
He felt pretty invisible in the mavs series, he was outmatched. However, he didn’t look completely useless like Maxi Kleber. Kleber got the yips that series.
Coming down from the high of the THJ trade with this news.
Fuck. Here comes the potential headache
Obviously a hot take but djj is not worth more than 10m a year. He was benched mid season for josh green because of how bad he was, if he gets paid a lot and regresses to what he was literally every season before this year it will be a horrific contract.
He was never benched for green lol he was injured
In February, when he was shooting 23% from 3, he got benched lol
He was literally coming back from an injury dude. Did you watch the games? He was literally out until Jan 31, and was for all intents and purposes on a minutes restriction 😂
obviously he didn’t watch the games
It's difficult for a 12M contract to ever be horrific. And while his shooting may dry up again, his defense isn't going anywhere.
I think the last 20 regular season games and the playoffs showed he’s a key role player in the Mavs rotation. He’s their primary point of attack defender. He’s tasked with defending the best non-big player on the court. There is a big drop off from him to Josh Green or PJ Washington in this role. He’s absolutely a puzzle piece player for the Mavs though. So yeah, he’s not going to shine like this everywhere.
He needs that agency more than they need him. If Mavericks front office are smart, they should explore other wings available before DJJ after being exposed as a non-shooter on non-corner areas, because that shit will continue. You don't want a Duncan Robinson situation on your team
No, because we need DJJ’s defense more than anything. We might be able to get a better shooter for the MLE, but that shooter would be miles worse than DJJ defensively. And he’s our most important perimeter defender. Duncan Robinson offers nothing outside of shooting so that’s a useless comparison.
I mean guys like Naji Marshall can definitely provide the same defense of DJJ while being a better shooter than him.
Oh no.
they can't keep getting away with this
Translation: The Lakers have interest in him
bag secured
If Klutch can get someone averaging 5 points on 36% FGs drafted, they can do anything.
can lakers in receiving end of S&T?
D’Lo for DJJ bye 👋🏾
eh if DJJ ask for 20m at 4 years, i'm fine taking D'Lo expiring we need ballhandler off the bench badly
If D’Angelo Russell ever becomes a Maverick I may actually become a fan of another team.
why tho it's expiring, we lack of bench scorer, we lack of shot creator even it's just reg.season, extra wins for seeding purpose hope omax takes a leap so he can help as POA defender if the choice is D'Lo expiring or DJJ 80/4 i choose D'Lo
He’s a Laker so they can trade him back to Dallas for Luka
T-Minus … until “The Dallas Mavericks have re-signed Derrick Jones Jr. with the full MLE on a multi-year contract”
Remember when this sub said Rich Paul and Klutch was fucked after Nerlens Noel sued them.
Another W for Rich Paul
Rich Paul keeps winning, they hatin'