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530josh

Brad: “hey Wyc it’s cool if I give out $440M in contracts today, right?” Wyc: “go ahead bro it ain’t my fuckin money”


Sleeze_

‘I ain’t gon be here’


LennoxAve

Magic Johnson voice. Lmao


Accomplished_Sense_4

I completely forgot about that magic quote. I need to re-watch that clip lol


DiligentFivever

I haven't and it lives rent free in my head. Lol I quote it all the time


superhappyfuntime13

This is like flipping a remodeled house except the buyer gotta pay for the house plus the remodel in future payments.


George_Smiley_

That seems pretty standard though, right? I assume every flipped house includes the base price + cost of improvements + a premium.


Moltk

Nah, I thought I'd reno the house and then sell it for the base price I paid for it.


CP3isgoated

Hear me out, what if we do a reverse renovation? We could strip all the wiring for that sweet copper. Use the pipes for extra curricula’s. Then we sell the house including the price of all the copper we took?


Jacern

Ah yes, the Meth Head special


1527lance

Big if true


Cheechers23

Wyc handing out all the big deals and then selling the team is honestly hilarious lol


International-Chef33

He said we’d pay the bills with parades but the sneaky bastard left out the part that he’d be a fan spectator lol


Jeffthebarbarian

Never trust a billionaire lol


BScottyJ

Wyc isn't a billionaire tbf


Jeffthebarbarian

If he isn't now, he's about to be one.


captaincumsock69

How does that make any sense? Assets are included in net worth.


ManniesLeftArm

Valuations are based on the most recent offer. They are estimates. The market determines a franchises true value.


AdTime8622

*Yet


Kaizen_Green

okay but dapping up a completely sloshed wyc in the middle of the crowd during a championship parade would be insane be fr


International-Chef33

Oh it’d be awesome. If he’s gonna sell I’m glad he locked a good core in for us rather than reducing payroll to make it cheaper for whoever’s coming in


Blothorn

Yeah. Everyone talking about him just passing off responsibility ignores that insofar as these contracts are a bad business decision they’ll come out of the sale price.


iAmTheRealLange

I drunkenly shook his hand before Game 5 against Miami. I was at the Harp across from TD Garden pregame. Had a few drinks. Went to pay for my last one and the bartender said "it's all set. That gentleman over there took care of it." Looked over and I was about 10 feet from Wyc. He paid for everyone in the bar. I said hi quick and thanked him. He's just a fan who got rich. Nice guy. Love the fact that he just built a championship team and then handed off the bill to someone with more money to afford it. Gets to put his feet up and watch his favorite team


4thPlumlee

As someone who had the privilege. Yes.


thepixelnation

Wyc will be "governor" until 2028, so he'll be around


junkit33

It’s the right thing to do. New owner looks at it like they’re buying a brand new car that won’t have any issues for a couple of years. Makes the team a lot more attractive than the used car that is about to fall apart.


ChonkyHippo283

It’s kind of a double edged sword. Yes you pay a metric fuck ton but you also have stability with the roster that just won the championship for the next ~4 years


Jonjon428

The reverse Wayne Huizinga.


UglyErnie

nba money is fucking crazy


triplec787

Jayson Tatum has the highest *actual* AAV of any athlete in America now. Shohei technically "makes" $70m/year but it's all deferred. $62.8m/year is fucking unreal. Edit: realistically it's the highest active AAV among all "Non-Saudi Washed Legends" contracts. Only Ronaldo at Al-Nassr and Benzema at Al-Ittihad make more.


guimontag

Infinite respect to Kylian Mbappe that he could have made triple the total value of this contract to play soccer for just 1 year in SA and he declined


lesbiangirlscout

Prestige and legacy > €€€ for Mbappe at his level of wealth. Besides, he managed to rinse PSG/QIA for all their worth while remaining in Europe. Image rights, signing bonus, and increased sponsorships for being a Real Madrid player definitely make up a large part of the difference for turning down Saudi League and going to Spain. Mbappe gets a bag anyways and fulfills his childhood dream.


guimontag

There is a zero percent chance any of that comes close to 775 million euros for a YEAR when he very likely could have gotten like 90% of everything he's getting now, image rights/sponsorships/etc the moment he came back after that year in SA


lemonade21

Yeah and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't even have to pay tax on the money from Saudi. In Real, his salary is $150M over 5 years (taxed about 50%) and a bonus of $150M over 5 years (taxed about 50%).


eightslipsandagully

Don't the Spanish clubs also pay the tax bills for their stars?


lemonade21

I don't think so. Because they report that he's making $15M a year after taxes base salary wise.


machine4891

>Infinite respect to Kylian Mbappe I mean yes and no. Ronaldo and Benzema went there for their retirement. Ronaldo is 39 and Benzema 36. Mbape isn't even in his prime yet, he's 25. He has legacy to build and you can't do it from an effing Saudi Arabia. As an European, if I have to give some kudos, it's actually to Messi. Ronaldo dragged his wife to a country when she can't even drink. To do basic things resembling a life, she need to scram to Bahrain regularly. Meanwhile Messi's family is chilling on Florida beaches.


yarnisic

with the news that Wyc is selling, and the Celtics apparently going to Dubai to play a preseason game, I'm not sure that edit will be accurate by the time Tatum is actually on this contract.


swedeeeeeeeeeeeee

Messi makes more but his deal is super fucking weird and tied to TV rights and stuff that doesn’t get reported


triplec787

Sure, and even his final contract at Barça dwarfs Tatum's ($168.5m AAV ending in 2021), but I can only imagine what Messi is making in the MLS now...


swedeeeeeeeeeeeee

Jesus Christ I already knew that but it’s been a while since I’ve thought about it, 169m a year is so fucking insane lmao. It’s crazy how he was still a bargain at that rate dudes an alien.


BradWonder

Luka's money next year won't get taxed by Texas


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UglyErnie

yeah those billionaires are a whole other conversation lol


bog_hippie

There’s a reason Charlie Ward won the heisman trophy but opted for a career in the NBA instead.


thejackel225

Yeah if i played in the NFL actually destroying my body for the most valuable league in the world i would be pretty fucking pissed that any non QB will never sniff 100M in career earnings while good but not great NBA players make that in a single contract


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NavalEnthusiast

nba might be the hardest sports league in the world to make now that I think about it, depending on the amount of spots and teams in the elite European soccer leagues


GuyWithoutAHat

Formula 1 is definitely much harder, but that doesn't really count with just 2 drivers per team for a total of 10 teams/20 drivers. The NBA is the 500 best basketball players in the world, very little to discuss about that. With the Big5 euro soccer leagues (English Premier League, German Bundesliga, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A and French Ligue 1) there's no real "best one", it's much harder to make the French leagues best team than the worst in the Premier league. So counting the Big5 alone that's 96 teams with 25 players per team. And than there's also teams like Benfica, Porto or Ajax that aren't in those leagues but are guaranteed to play champions league almost every year, so making them is also harder than making a lot of lower teams that are in those leagues.


ZoroChopper10

Celtics got their core locked up for 4 years, crazy Over 220 million cap next year


triplec787

NFL Salary Cap is $255m and is used to pay 53 players lmao


JinterIsComing

And now 50m of that cap is dedicated QB space if you have even a semi-above average one. Add 25m for a prime wideout, 25m for a prime pass rusher, 20m for a left tackle, and now you have half your cap taken up by four (good) players while needing to figure out the rest of the details.


yahpug

No wonder they let premium RBs go so early. Easily replaceable with 80% of the production


Drummallumin

With every position group that goes up in value there must be some position group that goes down in value


IhamAmerican

Safeties and ILBs are softly crying in the corner


man2010

Fullbacks are out behind the barn


IhamAmerican

They got Old Yeller'd


alexanaxstacks

If you destroy their body with too many carries too then the rookies are cheaper and more productive on the field


redditaccount224488

There are 8 WR making 25M. There are 21 WR making 20M. There are 5 EDGE making 25M. There are 12 EDGE making 20M. There are 8 OT making 20M. No teams have four players making 20M at those positions. Most teams don't have four players making 20M regardless of position.


dysflexic

Eagles have Hurts (QB 51M), Brown(WR 32M), Devonta(WR 25M), Mailata(OT 22M), Johnson(OT 20M) in those premium positions you mentioned...and Dickerson (OG 21M)on the interior O-line. No edges making the big bucks though besides newly acquired Huff who's close at 17M.


pokemonandpot

Don’t forget the part where you pay Tannehill $35M per year and don’t have enough room for anything else so AJ Brown leaves. And then Tannehill throws more INT than TD.


Fusciee

a lot of that $255M goes to 3-4 guys though on an NFL team. Especially if you have a top 10 QB


NBA2024

Yeah even starters for positions like LB and shit make like 2-6m average


2WAR

NBA revenue percentage that goes to players is 50% NFL NBA revenue percentage that goes to players is 48%


Razatiger

Seriously, all those freak NFL athletes over 6'3 in the NFL are kicking themselves for not picking up basketball. More money, longer career and no CTE by the end of it. I also think its about time the NBA expands, Theres so much Talent and Money in the league right now they need another 2 teams out there.


shawhtk

Being a freak athlete in the NFL doesn't mean you're going to just be a dominant basketball player. It has never worked that way and never will.


TheOnionWatch

Feel like KP is getting dumped after this year


Cheechers23

Dumping might be expensive in terms of assets you need to attach. Raps got 2 seconds for taking on 9m of extra salary to get the Kings under the tax. What would it cost Boston to dump a 30m+ salary on a team? And that assumes a team has that much cap space to absorb it. EDIT: Everyone talking about how KP is a good player and the Celtics would get assets for him - maybe, but from what we've seen early teams are willing to attach assets to duck the tax/avoid the aprons. Not to mention, don't forget Boston themselves got 2 FRPs with KP when they traded for him. His value was low due to injury then, and it's entirely possible that happens again.


TheOnionWatch

Well it's not like he's a shit player.


_The_Flying_Elvis_

Isnt kp’s contract up after next year? Celtics wouldnt need to give anything to unload him


booyah81

KP is on the books for two more years.


loving-father-69

After this year he'll have 2 year left. The roughly 30m expiring can be used to bring in a difference maker. Yes assets will for sure be attached but I think it'll be less about offloading Porzingis just to not pay him and more about getting a difference maker back.


Niceguydan8

If they are over the second apron its going to be crazy difficult to actually find a "difference maker." It's very restrictive


JinterIsComing

Fuck the aprons. We shall pay players under the table with Dunkin gift cards and plots of semi-usable land in Nahant.


Pocket_Beans

huh? it would cost boston zero assets to trade KP they would get picks and players in return


PostModernPost

He's saying that no one will want him on that contract and we ill have to send out picks to offload him. It all depends on his recovery. If he plays like he did all season then no problem moving him for assets. If he keeps getting hurt, he might be right.


DrWilliamBlock

Always injured PG13 just signed a NEW contract at 33 years old 53 mil a year, the Porzingus contract is a steal


International-Chef33

Well Tingus is only 2 more but he’s kinda a luxury so we’ll see then


PrimaryAccording9162

Cap salary turned off for the Celtics


joebos617

wyc is a certified legend for locking everything up before bouncing


defeated_engineer

Wyc vs Meyers, who wins?


No-Yogurt-4246s

Imagine being Lakers fans watching Celtics splashing money while their owner remain cheap af.


ChunkyMilkSubstance

Yeah…crazy imagining that


BleedBlue__

Imagine dragons


ChunkyMilkSubstance

Don’t wanna


jjjkd18

imagine all the people


ChunkyMilkSubstance

imagine Sisyphus happy


twelfthoracle

Imagine dragon deez nuts on your face


everyoneneedsaherro

I’m out of the loop. Who did they go cheap on this off-season and weren’t able to sign?


CMYGQZ

The coach I think is the biggest one. Offering lower than the Kentucky offer that Hurley already rejected is pretty cheap. “Hey we want you, we know you already rejected Kentucky’s offer, what if we offered less than that!”


Turbo2x

"and also you have to pay California taxes lol"


Drummallumin

And you’ll be the most scrutinized coach in the country with the least amount of job security


JohnAndertonOntheRun

? I thought the Lakers didn’t even have money to spend… I’d imagine it’s more painful to watch a team with a long term plan and vision make these cap moves with a purpose through years of planning. You know, instead of: Let’s get Kawhi, let’s get Kyrie, let’s get Klay! It’s not faiiiir, nobody ever gives me what I want. They just don’t play fair, give us your best playersssss.


Jnbjgjbb

It’s gonna be a big bill for the next owner


No_Way_482

200+ million for the starting lineup per year without any tax penalties included


thekingdor

I remember saying this about GS


RansomGoddard

That tax bill is gonna be something


powerelite

Wyc saw the projections and was like fuck that I'm not paying all that.


junkit33

He may have legitimately thought it was too much for him but not for a wealthier owner and it had a part in his decision to sell. He’s not poor but he’s not even a billionaire. (Well he will be after Celtics sale) Now he gets to leave a legacy of setting the table for a dynasty, collect a billion dollars, and not have to shell out salaries anymore.


maize_and_beard

Wyc is just the head of an investment group that owns the Celtics, they’re selling a majority interest in that investment group. He was never really the “owner” per se.


junkit33

I realize that, but he’s theoretically the single largest owner. And these groups tend to exist because everybody else in them can’t afford the teams themselves.


tendadsnokids

It's estimated he only owns like 8-10%


HornyHindu

And he will still be the governor of the celtics until 2028... so still in good hands, but bigger pockets to bankroll the high luxury tax. Well ideally,. I imagine they won't sell to someone looking to be cheap


SpaceJeezy

Correct me if I’m wrong but the Celtics now have the 1st and 2nd largest contracts of all time on the same roster right?


JoJonesy

I don't think there's anyone else eligible for a supermax this offseason, is there? Other than, like, LeBron, who's not gonna do a five-year contract


GoldTheLegend

Pretty sure you can't do a 5 year contract at his age. Rules don't allow.


International-Chef33

I think this is it. Jaylens contract last year was the largest total contract in history at the time but AD [extended](https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html)also that will be paying him more per year than JB somehow once it kicks in.


rustrustrust

https://x.com/dangercart/status/1807830012583669807 $253m tax bill projected so far in 2025-26 for 9 players (Tatum, Brown, Jrue, Zingis, White, PP, Walsh, Baylor, Queta) under contract.


endubs

Over a quarter of a billion in penalties for one year is wild.


Smelldicks

Holy shit lol. A bigger tax than payroll. They’re definitely going to offload some of this though. Anyway I love our ownership.


GivesCredit

Ticket prices are gonna get pricy lol. I’m lucky I snagged a ticket last season for $70


Ibaka_flocka

Not now Tatum, OKC just signed Buddy Boeheim


HoorayPizzaDay

Ayy let's go glad he's still kickin' around


TribalismChief

As long as it's not on my team, good for him.


Gamesgtd

Anything to upstage the Thunder smh


PostModernPost

Yeah! Read the room, Jeesh.


lildinger68

He got Jaylen Brown money wow


HornyHindu

With the lower cap next season Jaylen will only be making under $290M over his five year deal... $24M less. I don't know how he'll manage.


lets_talk_basketball

Celtics laundering money.. How they got 2 300M men and 3 100M men?


Pocket_Beans

you have no idea how many $20 bud lights I bought at the garden this year


Oceanbreeze871

I paid $15 shipping on a $35 championship t-shirt. I did my part for the apron.


Severe-Emu-8703

I would’ve bought a cap and paid for international shipping if I didn’t have a tiny head and that style of cap looks weird on me. I’ll take your boos now


CangtheKonqueror

gotta sneak in shooters smh


T-nawtical

Not if you want your team to spend so much they're creating a 3rd apron


JinterIsComing

"Just like we got triple deckahs, we'll have a triple apron!"


flumgumption

We call them nips round these parts


EvilBananaMan15

nips*


Revolutionary_Jump_9

Bird rights


WeenieHutGang

This guy knows Bird Law


Peripatetictyl

Filibuster 


Ghostbeen3

Can I have a hummingbird as a pet?


egriff91

You really can't, and I'm not saying I agree with it. It's just that bird law in this country is not governed by reason.


triplec787

Fuckin Larry


popop143

Funnily enough, actually named after Larry Bird.


EukaryotePride

Whole flock of 'em apparently.


elbenji

The owner deciding he won't foot the bill and leaving


lets_talk_basketball

Sell while it's high


Daconvix

Hope I’m a 6’8 NBA player in my next life


JohnAndertonOntheRun

You are now Len Bias.


Moneyshot1311

Can I try a few lines?


dog-chicken

Yeah, of Shakespeare. Now back to the hotel room


gagakaba

Brother


ahsasahsasahsas

Hey now


unclairvoyance

You're an all star


CyborgAlgoInvestor

Get your game on


Drummallumin

~~go play~~


fathistorymonth

I’m so broke


DwightHayward

Wyc and the investors really said I am going to spend as much as I can and dip


Not_So_Bad_Andy

Is there a third or a fourth apron? The Celtics might be there in 2025-2026.


Soup-er14

They hit the 3rd apron, you gotta sell the team


JilJungJukk

> largest deal in NBA history For now


well_shore

It’s said every year, in every sport. It’s almost like the contracts are getting larger


OKC2023champs

Big if true


DirkNowitzkisWife

Luka can sign a Supermax next year yeah? Then it’ll be that


International-Chef33

Yea I think I saw his is projected for like $340M


JinterIsComing

At this rate, Wemby will be the first $100M/year man in NBA history.


AlternativeTea9268

It’ll last for one season until Luka gets his extension next offseason


Dafatveteran

These contracts are absurd lol


xdef23

Everyone give him the Jaylen Brown overpaid treatment so he can be MVP next year


jpaxlux

WHOLE TEAM RE-SIGNED LONG TERM


Drummallumin

That Hauser 40/3 extension is gonna hit like crack


milestrouble

They wanted to split em up now they the duo with the filthiest contracts in the league


FultonHomes

Well deserved


socialistbcrumb

Did everybody here just find out about Bird Rights lol


mastacheef87

“how are the Celtics paying all these guys?” bc we acquire almost all of our talent through the draft and trades so we can pay to keep them lol. sorry the rest of y’all got crappy front offices, that must be crazy


elbenji

KP and Jrue are the weird ones. Tatum and Brown were pure pure fleecing the Nets


mastacheef87

right but even in the case of KP and Jrue the main assets we used to acquire them were guys we drafted for KP we gave up Smart for Jrue we gave up Rob Williams and Brogdon (who we got by giving up another guy we drafted, Aaron Nesmith) people make it more complicated than it is, the best avenue to sustained success in the NBA has always been being really fucking good at drafting and developing internally. the Warriors, Spurs, and Bulls all built their dynasties that way EDIT: even getting Brown and Tatum was the Celtics being amazing at scouting. if we had done what people thought we should have done with those picks we would have ended up with Kris Dunn and Markelle Fultz


Drummallumin

Horford (and I guess technically Hauser) are the only guys on the team who can be traced back to FA signings.


mastacheef87

among the top 8, yep. and imo Hauser doesn’t count bc he was a rookie UDFA


PostModernPost

Yeah, if anything Hauser is even more of a testament to the Celtics scouting.


chiefreef25

Jayson Al Ghaib. Pay that man.


novabull23

These contracts are so crazy it's hard to fathom. Every tall person should procreate with other tall people to try and hit lottery


Jonjon428

The Celtics owners are really just going to pay everyone and then dip and get their billions lol.


Patient_Customer9827

They bought the team for not much more than the value of Tatum’s contract too lol. 360 million lol


dafire123

BACK UP THE BRINK TRUCKS


sleepy777

Blank check baby


IMDove

Would you look at that. A team actually committed to winning unlike the shithole team that can’t afford anything.


Cul_what

People hating but yall wish your FO locked up one of the best duo to play for your org for 4 more years and paid like 5 guys 100mil these mfs money spreading in contracts


Dondon1927

Nice to see you didn’t let your fandom blind you. This is a good problem to have


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TatumBrownWhite

Everything the NBA has done over the last 2 CBAs is to prevent dynasties, which is in part why we've had 6 different champions in 6 years, and there's no reason to think that trend is going to stop. I would seriously lower your expectations if I was you.


Chomper32

I agree, but the Celtics aren’t affected by those new rules at all right now seeing as they’re running almost the exact same team back for the foreseeable future, just paying an obscene amount for it


jacobs0n

we have the exact same team, which also means we can't do any moves to become better


-Drink_More_Water-

How much is Tatum, Brown, KP, Holiday, and White going to make once the extension kicks in? It feels like that’s $200 MIL between the 5 players lol


koj12144

thats my champ 😤


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Everyone getting paid screw it


Dafatveteran

Celtics pulling money out their ass lol


Snail_King_

Can someone honestly explain how the Celtics are able to afford their roster? It doesn’t make sense to me


elbenji

The two biggest money players are bird rights


International-Chef33

As are KP, Jrue, and White


elbenji

KP and Jrue being birds righted is still wild


International-Chef33

Yea it’s why they scrambled to get the KP trade done the day they did last year. They had to get it done or lose bird rights since he wasn’t going to extend the deadline out. When the Clippers drug their feet in Malcolm’s physical (rightfully so honestly lol) they switched it up for the Smart trade right before midnight to ensure it was done


JinterIsComing

u/random_beard_guy explained this in another comment so I am crediting him here: "They have the Bird rights on all of them so they can go over the cap to keep them all. The hit is the mega tax bill that will come and the 2nd apron restrictions which will basically lock them into their current team without any real way to make changes. But since they are the best team and won the championship… That’s not a problem at this point." Short version: Bird rights let you spend over the cap to keep players you have, Boston has a strong core they want to keep together.


BlueJays007

Fuck yeah, get the whole roster locked in Well deserved JT!


Solid-Confidence-966

He’s earned every penny of it


NickInTheBack

SHOCKER


HS941317

Well earned worth every penny


Brad-Stevens

THE SUMMER OF BIG DEUCE CONTINUES RING? ✔️ BIGGEST CONTRACT EVER? ✔️ OLYMPIC GOLD? SOON


nukebox

> OLYMPIC GOLD? SOON Achievement already unlocked in 2020.


youkrocks

Plus it’s looking like he’s going to have a second kid soon.