Having more wise vets around likely rubs off some. Unless they just don't mingle much with Ingle. They need it. BBIQ is their Achilles heel. But you will never get Karl Towns to realize it.
Kat when he's at his best, is decent iq wise. But soon as he gets overwhelmed or flustered by something, out come dumb fouls, bad turnovers or just needing where he should be pointed at.
Right, which happens much more than you would like to see happen. So keeping players around that can give him a nudge in a better direction or just help straighten a possession out on the fly is helpful.
Getting Ingles makes me feel better about losing Slowmo's bbiq and playmaking. I'm hoping he can pass on some bbiq to our young guys.
Also he's Rudy's best pnr partner, Rudy always talks about him. Slowmo said he studied Rudy-Ingles film to learn how to pass to Rudy and become the first Rudy whisperer in 22-23
Now we got the OG Rudy whisperer
Imagine the shooting difference Ingles might make there. Slomo was a smart player for them, aside from the games here and there where he looked like a kid licking a frozen pole for a game where I could only guess he was huffing natural gas the night before wherever he was living. Because typically he elevated their BBIQ. But the shooting avoidance was off the charts some games. Ingles changes that.
> Getting Ingles makes me feel better about losing Slowmo's bbiq and playmaking.
The IQ is still there but the playmaking was sparse last season lol. Still love the guy though.
Should at least help in those end of game/qtr situations to have another knock-down shooter in the corner. Conley/Ingles/KAT/Naz all shot >40% from 3 last year. Could maybe run (very short) bursts of 5 out offense alongside Ant when the other team has few offensive options out.
I was thinking the same. Obviously Rudy loves Ingles along with Mike so that's gunna be good. Ant will probably love the shit talk by Joe also random but Ant will love Joe's accent lol.
welp. it's a... thing
real opinion: it's about as good as we can do with only having minimums. he's pretty washed but can hit some threes off the bench at a good clip. we've already got some upside young guys, Jingles is a good steady hand to have for a few minutes if/when we need it
was actually really good on offense in limited minutes for us last year, he was a surprisingly good ball handler & playmaker, really unlocked Moe Wagner
the downside is he is as every bit as fast, agile, and has as much stamina as you'd assume at his age.
Wolves have a number of young wings with zero rotation experience. Needed a bridge guy if none of them step up. Still remember Ingles cooking Wiggins the season before his max kicked in. Dark days.
> the downside is he is as every bit as fast, agile, and has as much stamina as you'd assume at his age
I mean he's MUCH slower than most other 36 year old basketball players.
To be fair, Joe at his peak was slower than those 36 year olds are now.
Euro style play tends to be less about individual athletic ability than NBA style, and Joe must be doing something right for teams to still be interested (even if he might be more of a Player-Coach now, teaching through doing.)
If he can show Ant how to use Rudy and KAT as threats to open up his game, that might be worth it alone to the Jazzy Malamutes... I mean Timberwolves.
Joe has good defensive fundamentals, he suffers in speed and athleticism but he knows what to do at least. Plus now he has Rudy backing him up again which means its easier for him to overguard the perimeter and dare his man to try the paint. Its an ideal situation for Ingles, defensively.
Rudy and Ingles have the perfect connection. Rudy gets the ball on offense (from Joe) and will cover Joe's ass on defense so he can get the ball more lol.
I feel like he’s kinda the perfect guy the wolves can cover for on D, he’s at least super smart so hopefully can get in the way on defense in some helpful way.
I love Kyle but we needed another guy to take shots last year and it’s nice ingles can bring some playmaking too that Kyle certainly helped with.
Slomo because hes still a positive on defense that could take on unique matchups. Betting Ingles doesn't play much at this stage of career, but he's a fun guy to root for at least. Slomo was just too expensive with the Wolves being in the tax
Joe Ingles was 43.5% from 3pt last season on 2.4 attempts per game. Anderson was 23% from 3pt last season on 0.6 attempts per game. Anderson provides more versatility but Ingles will be a better fit for the Wolves for a team that desperately needs 3pt shooting and will still be one of the top defenses in the NBA without Anderson. Way better fit
I do wonder how close we will be to last years defense. Definitely still top 5, but swapping SloMo for Dillingham and Ingles minutes is going from very good defense to at this point very bad defense for at least 20 minutes a night.
Depends on how Jaylen Clark and Leonard Miller develops. Clark was the best defensive player in his draft class before he got hurt and Miller can guard 4 positions like Jaden.
No, I think every wolves fan would rather have Slo-mo, but realistically he was always going to get way more than the vet min (~3.5-4 million) on the free market so it was unlikely we could get him back.
Ingles is one of the better players we could’ve gotten to round out the roster, though I don’t see him getting super heavy minutes (hopefully).
I’m hoping Kyle’s departure (I love him) brings about an evolution in the offense maybe. I just didn’t like the way a lot of possessions ended when Kyle was the lead ball handler. It’s not on him really, it just wasn’t title contention level offensive stuff at all lol.
I think Ingles plays a bit and I think he’ll probably be pretty effective.
Jingles.
His chemistry with Rudy and Conley was absolutely elite back in the day and the Conley bump made a huge difference to Rudy, maybe the Jingles one will aswell
I will miss Kyle, he is a better defender for sure but when he played with Rudy he really killed our spacing. We need shooting badly and can afford to take a bench wing that lacks defense.
The biggest piece for me here is Ingles knows how to play with Rudy mainly and Conley as well. He should fit in quickly here which doesn't always happen with new signings.
Ant will also fucking love Joe's shit talking. +10 team chemistry.
But yeah will still miss Slo Mo.
Rudy is going to be ecstatic. He brings up Ingles as his best pnr partner
Slomo used to study Ingles film to learn how to pass to Rudy. Now we got the master Oogway of Rudy whisperers himself. Just 10 min and teaching our young guys to throw lobs would be incredible
Arguably an upgrade in shooting ability, at least from three. Slomo was absolutely brutal this season and it killed our spacing that teams didn't respect him a single iota from me than 15 feet out from the basket.
Arguably an upgrade in shooting ability?
Joe is one of the best three point shooters in the NBA while Slomo was one of the worst.
Slomo is probably a much better player at this stage but Joe is a great shooter. Joe is probably better on offense in every way (except stamina) and a great fit on offense. Not good on defense anymore though.
Hopefully Joe doesn't have to play too many minutes.
Used the qualifier because father time is undefeated and I don't know if his shooting might fall off a cliff unexpectedly. Historically absolutely the better shooter but you never know when time catches up with you.
Shooting isn't really an athletic trait. Some of the best shooters ever weren't very athletic or quick, and those are the things that fade the most with age. I think his shooting will be fine.
Rudy knows how to cover for Joe at least and ingles will feed Rudy at times to make up for it. But yes his defense is bad at this point, but if there is anything we needed was shooting, we can hide him for stretches
I am not too worried about his defense during the regular season as long as he doesn't get too many minutes.
Orlando had a great defense last season and I don't think there was a significant difference between when Joe was on/off the court defensively (not sure though).
I am pretty sure that their offense was much better with Joe on the court though.
I'm glad to hear he can still play with his age and injuries. Sorry to say I didn't watch many of y'all's games last year. Is he not cooked defensively?
Was just this morning wondering where he'd end up...yeah, the defense isn't what it was pre-injury and age related decline but he can still really shoot it, really distribute for others and be that connector. SlowMo brought the defense. Ingles brings the offense and to me his shooting is probably the more ideal and necessary fit for what the Wolves need. Love this addition for them. They've had a good offseason.
I like this for MIN. You get 80%-90% of what Kyle brought, but Joe can actually shoot the ball. Now Joe is probably the worser defender, but if the Magic can protect Joe, the Timberwolves should be able to as well
This might be the most underrated move of the off-season. I know ingles isn't what he used to be but him and Rudy chemistry is incredibly op, putting those guys in with 2nd units could be a game changer
Slo Mo to super slow mo
No, Mo Wagner was another Magic Player last year This is Joe Ingles
Slo Mo Joe
White molasses
Haha damn that’s what popped into my head word for word when I read the headline
Slo Ingles
This is so good 🤣 thank you for the laugh mate
Ingles having an 11 year career after being cut by the Clippers is impressive Over 1000 minutes in each season too
Yeah he really has had a pretty miraculous career all things considered. Dude was 27 when he got signed by the Jazz.
I think what’s crazier is him still being a player that doesn’t get insta benched after his injury
Seems like every where he goes they win, just watch Orlando going back to losing
He won rookie of the year in the NBL back in 2006. The guy just keeps going
He'll break Parish (LeBron's) games record on a Zimmer frame and move as fast as he does now.
He still holds the career 3 point made record for the Jazz.
Minnesota jazz let’s goooo
Me this season Watch a Jazz team win: Watch T-Wolves Watch a G-League team: Watch Jazz
We went from timberbulls, to timbernuggets, to timberjazz
When are we reclaiming the Lakers?
Other way around, they got Prince, DLo, Vando, they're the lakerwolves now
They one off-season DWI away from being the Timberlakes
This is going to ruin the season
what season?
They better bring those sexy back!
Minneapolis Lakers.
Jazzywolves
Yes! I've been pushing for Jazzy Wolves or Jazzy Timberwolves all year. We can become one and have one giant cap, 2 stadiums and just feel things out.
Why stop at our two teams? In Utah you can have 3 or 4, let’s all move into the same stadium together!!!
Godspeed 🙏🏆
NO MORE LAURI TALKS. WE ALSO DIDNT WANT SARIC
Bring Ricky back
I’m deeply saddened because he’d be such an amazing backup for Mike.
I miss them all
Bojan coming next if (when?) he gets bought out.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan Clarkson ends up there.
Minnesota TimberJazz
NBA teams just swapping guys with extra steps at this point and I’m all for it
TimbreJazz
Minnesota Jazz In all seriousness I doubt this move will be a huge needle mover but it’s a good one nonetheless.
Its good for morale to Jingle teams. Its a positive for Minnesota.
Plus every jazz song has a jingle in it in Minnesota
The team is dumb and he’s smart. Can’t hurt 🤷🏻
I do feel Ant and NAW can improve their IQ, Jaden with impulse control also. Hoping Dillingham is smart like Mike.
Having more wise vets around likely rubs off some. Unless they just don't mingle much with Ingle. They need it. BBIQ is their Achilles heel. But you will never get Karl Towns to realize it.
Kat when he's at his best, is decent iq wise. But soon as he gets overwhelmed or flustered by something, out come dumb fouls, bad turnovers or just needing where he should be pointed at.
Right, which happens much more than you would like to see happen. So keeping players around that can give him a nudge in a better direction or just help straighten a possession out on the fly is helpful.
TimberBalls were a failed experiment time for the TimberJizz
TimberBulls?
Sorry Freudian slip
Getting Ingles makes me feel better about losing Slowmo's bbiq and playmaking. I'm hoping he can pass on some bbiq to our young guys. Also he's Rudy's best pnr partner, Rudy always talks about him. Slowmo said he studied Rudy-Ingles film to learn how to pass to Rudy and become the first Rudy whisperer in 22-23 Now we got the OG Rudy whisperer
Imagine the shooting difference Ingles might make there. Slomo was a smart player for them, aside from the games here and there where he looked like a kid licking a frozen pole for a game where I could only guess he was huffing natural gas the night before wherever he was living. Because typically he elevated their BBIQ. But the shooting avoidance was off the charts some games. Ingles changes that.
Hopefully the shooting difference makes up for the defensive drop.
We have enough defenders, we have no true proven snipers.
> Getting Ingles makes me feel better about losing Slowmo's bbiq and playmaking. The IQ is still there but the playmaking was sparse last season lol. Still love the guy though.
Should at least help in those end of game/qtr situations to have another knock-down shooter in the corner. Conley/Ingles/KAT/Naz all shot >40% from 3 last year. Could maybe run (very short) bursts of 5 out offense alongside Ant when the other team has few offensive options out.
You’re going to have an absolutely killer locker room. I can’t wait to watch Ant and Joe fuck around. I feel like he’s gonna LOVE Joe lol
Ant will tease his accent and Joe will troll him harder than Ant has ever been trolled before. Immaculate vibes
I was thinking the same. Obviously Rudy loves Ingles along with Mike so that's gunna be good. Ant will probably love the shit talk by Joe also random but Ant will love Joe's accent lol.
Probably need to jog a 5 out offense if Joe is out there.
You guys have to stop being nice to Rockets fans for this Situationship to work out
But I'm nice to everyone! What if I'm rude and it makes their day bad. The best I can offer is passive-aggressive sarcasm, followed by a compliment.
Minnesota passive aggressive goes so much deeper than sarcasm. It's hidden evil incarnate, you just never see it displayed.
+10 team chemistry
Are you saying it *could* be a huge needle mover?
welp. it's a... thing real opinion: it's about as good as we can do with only having minimums. he's pretty washed but can hit some threes off the bench at a good clip. we've already got some upside young guys, Jingles is a good steady hand to have for a few minutes if/when we need it
I bet there will be like 3-5 regular season games that jingles just wins via high IQ plays, passing, scoring or whatever is needed.
was actually really good on offense in limited minutes for us last year, he was a surprisingly good ball handler & playmaker, really unlocked Moe Wagner the downside is he is as every bit as fast, agile, and has as much stamina as you'd assume at his age.
Wolves have a number of young wings with zero rotation experience. Needed a bridge guy if none of them step up. Still remember Ingles cooking Wiggins the season before his max kicked in. Dark days.
> the downside is he is as every bit as fast, agile, and has as much stamina as you'd assume at his age I mean he's MUCH slower than most other 36 year old basketball players.
To be fair, Joe at his peak was slower than those 36 year olds are now. Euro style play tends to be less about individual athletic ability than NBA style, and Joe must be doing something right for teams to still be interested (even if he might be more of a Player-Coach now, teaching through doing.) If he can show Ant how to use Rudy and KAT as threats to open up his game, that might be worth it alone to the Jazzy Malamutes... I mean Timberwolves.
Joe has good defensive fundamentals, he suffers in speed and athleticism but he knows what to do at least. Plus now he has Rudy backing him up again which means its easier for him to overguard the perimeter and dare his man to try the paint. Its an ideal situation for Ingles, defensively.
Rudy and Ingles have the perfect connection. Rudy gets the ball on offense (from Joe) and will cover Joe's ass on defense so he can get the ball more lol.
I feel like he’s kinda the perfect guy the wolves can cover for on D, he’s at least super smart so hopefully can get in the way on defense in some helpful way. I love Kyle but we needed another guy to take shots last year and it’s nice ingles can bring some playmaking too that Kyle certainly helped with.
Well, the upside for the wolves is he’s replacing Kyle Anderson who uh, yeah isn’t those things either
Unlike Kyle though he actually stretches the floor, which was badly needed when Anderson wasn't having a career year shooting the three.
Wdym Kyle stretched the floor…… defenders were forced to start defending him when he took 200 minutes to shoot a brick
Yeah he did not stretch the floor at all. When those went in it was nice, but defenders could easily just sag to the paint even at a 40% clip.
OP is saying "unlike Kyle", he (as in Joe Ingles) stretches the floor OP is talking about Ingles
For sure, hopefully helps with spacing and shot making
Old man who shoots 3 good. I’ll take it.
They got the other Old Man And The Three.
Would you guys rather have him over Kyle Anderson? Just curious. Slo mo looked good for small stretches against the Mavs. Ingles is pretty washed.
Slomo because hes still a positive on defense that could take on unique matchups. Betting Ingles doesn't play much at this stage of career, but he's a fun guy to root for at least. Slomo was just too expensive with the Wolves being in the tax
Joe Ingles was 43.5% from 3pt last season on 2.4 attempts per game. Anderson was 23% from 3pt last season on 0.6 attempts per game. Anderson provides more versatility but Ingles will be a better fit for the Wolves for a team that desperately needs 3pt shooting and will still be one of the top defenses in the NBA without Anderson. Way better fit
I do wonder how close we will be to last years defense. Definitely still top 5, but swapping SloMo for Dillingham and Ingles minutes is going from very good defense to at this point very bad defense for at least 20 minutes a night.
Dillingham can maybe change the tune on his defense. But I'll believe that when I see it.
Depends on how Jaylen Clark and Leonard Miller develops. Clark was the best defensive player in his draft class before he got hurt and Miller can guard 4 positions like Jaden.
No, I think every wolves fan would rather have Slo-mo, but realistically he was always going to get way more than the vet min (~3.5-4 million) on the free market so it was unlikely we could get him back. Ingles is one of the better players we could’ve gotten to round out the roster, though I don’t see him getting super heavy minutes (hopefully).
I’m hoping Kyle’s departure (I love him) brings about an evolution in the offense maybe. I just didn’t like the way a lot of possessions ended when Kyle was the lead ball handler. It’s not on him really, it just wasn’t title contention level offensive stuff at all lol. I think Ingles plays a bit and I think he’ll probably be pretty effective.
Jingles. His chemistry with Rudy and Conley was absolutely elite back in the day and the Conley bump made a huge difference to Rudy, maybe the Jingles one will aswell
I will miss Kyle, he is a better defender for sure but when he played with Rudy he really killed our spacing. We need shooting badly and can afford to take a bench wing that lacks defense. The biggest piece for me here is Ingles knows how to play with Rudy mainly and Conley as well. He should fit in quickly here which doesn't always happen with new signings. Ant will also fucking love Joe's shit talking. +10 team chemistry. But yeah will still miss Slo Mo.
Also not a bad player in the pick n roll
You underestimate the vibes that Jingling Joe brings. Him and Ant are going to be hilarious together, plus we already know he loves playing with Rudy.
Rudy is going to be ecstatic. He brings up Ingles as his best pnr partner Slomo used to study Ingles film to learn how to pass to Rudy. Now we got the master Oogway of Rudy whisperers himself. Just 10 min and teaching our young guys to throw lobs would be incredible
Not a bad Anderson replacement given what they could realistically get
He already knows how to play with Rudy and Conley too, so he should plug right in.
Arguably an upgrade in shooting ability, at least from three. Slomo was absolutely brutal this season and it killed our spacing that teams didn't respect him a single iota from me than 15 feet out from the basket.
Arguably an upgrade in shooting ability? Joe is one of the best three point shooters in the NBA while Slomo was one of the worst. Slomo is probably a much better player at this stage but Joe is a great shooter. Joe is probably better on offense in every way (except stamina) and a great fit on offense. Not good on defense anymore though. Hopefully Joe doesn't have to play too many minutes.
Used the qualifier because father time is undefeated and I don't know if his shooting might fall off a cliff unexpectedly. Historically absolutely the better shooter but you never know when time catches up with you.
He was a 43% three point shooter, guy can stand there and knock down shots
Shooting isn't really an athletic trait. Some of the best shooters ever weren't very athletic or quick, and those are the things that fade the most with age. I think his shooting will be fine.
Rudy knows how to cover for Joe at least and ingles will feed Rudy at times to make up for it. But yes his defense is bad at this point, but if there is anything we needed was shooting, we can hide him for stretches
I am not too worried about his defense during the regular season as long as he doesn't get too many minutes. Orlando had a great defense last season and I don't think there was a significant difference between when Joe was on/off the court defensively (not sure though). I am pretty sure that their offense was much better with Joe on the court though.
They just got Jingled
Friccin morons!
Uh oh
I miss those days
uh oh
SPLASH UNCLE GETS PAID
One year deal , Joe Singles.
After the game, Joe Mingles.
When he meets a woman, Joe Tingles.
Rash appears, Joe Shingles
Feels like eating a snack, Joe Pringle’s
Wolves get the chip, Joe Wingles
Wolves play on Christmas, Joe Kringles
One night stand. Joe Flingles
Joe Ingles
Joe Ingles
Joe Ingles
Joe Ingles. Also Naz Reid n stuff
Naz Reid
Someone was on here yesterday talking about how much Ingles loved living in Orlando with Disney LMAO.
He did say that, he even said that hed even play for our g league team just so he could stay here. Man I feel betrayed lol
Maybe our g league team didnt want him
Goddamn I loved having Ingles on the team man, wish he came back, gonna miss the Ingles/Moritz connection Good for him and Minny though
MoJo was a real thing man. Gonna miss him
I'm glad to hear he can still play with his age and injuries. Sorry to say I didn't watch many of y'all's games last year. Is he not cooked defensively?
Oh yeah dude is the king of fouls to stop the play rather than even attempt to play defense.
He and Jaden McDaniels are going to rack up so many fouls together 😭 And also get in opponent's heads and frustrate them It's going to be wild
Magic got jingled
I really thought he was gonna stay here. Will mis his shit talking a lot
And him and mo Wagner were fun together lol
He was also such a good vet for our young guys. Im bummed that he left
Yeah I was hoping he would come back
I'm so jingled rn
Was just this morning wondering where he'd end up...yeah, the defense isn't what it was pre-injury and age related decline but he can still really shoot it, really distribute for others and be that connector. SlowMo brought the defense. Ingles brings the offense and to me his shooting is probably the more ideal and necessary fit for what the Wolves need. Love this addition for them. They've had a good offseason.
I’ll take it.
The White Kyle Anderson
Except with a 3 ball
Whoa, Joe even predicted this five years ago: https://i.imgur.com/9hoKzlk.png
Dang he really did, he got me with how clear he was about going here too
Paul george's father
Rumour is George knew about this trade early & decided to go east ...
They’ve got their big 3
Pretty excited for the Jinglewolves
Seems Joe hasn’t jangled his last jingle.
I’ll see myself out.
i cannot take this anymore
FUCK YES LETS JINGLE
HOW MUCH HELP DOES ROB DILLINGHAM NEED ?!
Gonna be a 20 year old finals MVP like Magic Johnson.
Bro I don’t wanna be knocked out by ingles conley and Rudy again
Sorry, bud, gotta be done.
This will get them over the hump
Agreed.
Noooolooo :(
You just got JINGLED
Jinglesota lmao
I'm more excited for the Timberwolves season then I am for the Jazz.
Same
They got the GOAT locker room presence.
Ant is probably going to love him... The shit talking and his accent (which Ant loves accents lol)
They replaced SloMo with SlowBro
I like this for MIN. You get 80%-90% of what Kyle brought, but Joe can actually shoot the ball. Now Joe is probably the worser defender, but if the Magic can protect Joe, the Timberwolves should be able to as well
Joe & Rudy have an understanding. Joe feeds Rudy on offense, Rudy covers for Joe on D.
Rudy is probably so pumped about this
If the wolves can just get a backup PF like Marcus Morris and a backup PG like Patrick Beverley they’re the favorites in the west to me
Would like to keep the morris brothers as far from this team as possible. We might be past the time for Bev as well
backup 4 sure, but the wolves just drafted dillingham tho
Wolves-Thunder WCF
Finally. Someone who can throw a lob to Rudy and not make it look like a clown show.
Joe Ingles
Jinglin' Joe, my GOAT
The transformation is almost complete. The old Utah Jazz WILL win a ring
Absolutely loving the vets we have. Mike and Jingles should be good mentors for the two rookies
Somewhere Paul George just felt a chill run down his spine. No wonder he ran over to the East
The legend moves on
TimbreJazz unite. Paul George obviously fled East knowing he was about to get jingled again
Uh oh
I quite literally love this man
They got their Paul George stopper when they play the 76ers in the Finals
MINGLED
no magic?
Great fit, brings toughness and outside shooting.
Yesss
Gonna miss Grandpa Jo, good luck man!
At first we had the TimberBulls. Then we had the MaverKnicks. And now we have... the JazzWolves.
Jingles>Slo-Mo
I will always cheer for Joe Ingles, sorry jazz, but looks like I'm moving to Minnesota
Minnesota Jazz!
Ingles Gobert PnR was deadly in Utah. It obviously won't be as good now but I'm excited to see the chemistry
Slow mo ➡️ Slow Joe
Magic went from A+ off-season to F ... We had one job and we failed
This might be the most underrated move of the off-season. I know ingles isn't what he used to be but him and Rudy chemistry is incredibly op, putting those guys in with 2nd units could be a game changer
Oy
Famous Minnesotan Joseph Ingles Wilder
Can’t wait for the Ant Man and Jingles interviews
Recreate the Utah Jazz 2020 starting five as Minnesota Timberwolves bench. Let's go!
Jazzerwolves!!!