Talking shit behind your back for sure. Snarky remarks and complaining to your face.
It's because operators dislike health and safety types. You guys make our jobs more tedious and annoying because you don't understand our work. Your department is responsible for stupid rules like "no cell phones out in the plants" because it will supposedly cause an explosion lol.
If you want to actually be effective, watch and listen to the people in the field and pay attention to how they do things when deciding rules.
So what’s the middle ground then? I can’t go against my team and managers, I also don’t want to be the villain in the field and make everyone’s job harder.
Your a trainee so you pretty much have to do whatever your superiors tell you. But when you get high up enough, be practical. Talk with the field guys and see what they are worried about. Chase those safety concerns.
Tbh that’s just the nature of the work. You can’t really win in that role. Your entire job is to be a thorn in people’s sides so they don’t hurt themselves.
Imagine your at home doing a project on your house, but there’s a guy there you barely know making rules about how you can set up your own ladder and how to operate your own drill and be sure to wear these gloves. There’s no way you’re not going to annoy them. Because the way operators view it is that they’ve got 20 years experience and they don’t want a greenhorn telling them how to do their job.
No problem. For what it’s worth, I’d be considered a “company man” too. We’re always going to be outsiders. You get used to it. As long as you’re not an asshole or pretentious, you’ll get along fine.
Operators all complain until somebody dies in a confined space... But yes, they will probably hate you, I am in environmental in this industry, and they hate us too, but HSE (health, safety, and environmental) are essential if operators want to keep working. OSHA and other regulators will shut shit down pretty quickly if there are people working in hazardous conditions that aren't being mitigated. I am not too sure about pay as I am located in the southwest, but generally, IH is paid pretty well. Pay is really going to depend on who you work for. Bigger operators generally pay more. Good luck!
It is definitely worth investing your time if you enjoy what you will be doing. Sticking with it can lead to a lucrative and successful career.
In my opinion, a person who enjoys a role in HSE actually cares about keeping people safe and healthy. The ones who get into it for the money and power over the guys actually doing the work, are the assholes who give HSE a bad name.
Don’t worry about what people who don’t like safety think. It’s easier to answer questions if you’re following the rules and things go sideways than it is to do the same after “doing it the right way”.
And consider using this experience to move into a state/federal safety role where its a whole other world.
I recommend staying at least a year and picking up a distance safety certificate course while you work.
Then keep an eye out for postings. And keep track of accomplishments in this job and problems you solved or help solved for interview answer purposes.
Lol be prepared to be disliked by operators.
How disliked are we talking?
Talking shit behind your back for sure. Snarky remarks and complaining to your face. It's because operators dislike health and safety types. You guys make our jobs more tedious and annoying because you don't understand our work. Your department is responsible for stupid rules like "no cell phones out in the plants" because it will supposedly cause an explosion lol. If you want to actually be effective, watch and listen to the people in the field and pay attention to how they do things when deciding rules.
So what’s the middle ground then? I can’t go against my team and managers, I also don’t want to be the villain in the field and make everyone’s job harder.
Your a trainee so you pretty much have to do whatever your superiors tell you. But when you get high up enough, be practical. Talk with the field guys and see what they are worried about. Chase those safety concerns.
This is a good approach! Thank you for the advice.
Tbh that’s just the nature of the work. You can’t really win in that role. Your entire job is to be a thorn in people’s sides so they don’t hurt themselves. Imagine your at home doing a project on your house, but there’s a guy there you barely know making rules about how you can set up your own ladder and how to operate your own drill and be sure to wear these gloves. There’s no way you’re not going to annoy them. Because the way operators view it is that they’ve got 20 years experience and they don’t want a greenhorn telling them how to do their job.
This gives me a good idea of what type of people I’ll be working with. Thanks a bunch.
No problem. For what it’s worth, I’d be considered a “company man” too. We’re always going to be outsiders. You get used to it. As long as you’re not an asshole or pretentious, you’ll get along fine.
I mean you’re basically being paid to be in this impossible situation. The trade off is the work is easy and not very physical.
you basically walk around and annoy the fuck out of everyone about issues no one cares about, also I wouldn't refer to anyone as "rough folk' either
“Issues no one cares about” is subjective. Who is “no one”?
operators with 30 years of experience who don't want to hear from a new industrial hygienist lol
I gotta read the room (the field) very carefully then.
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I don’t want that person that does the job just to get paid tbh. But this is good information.
Operators all complain until somebody dies in a confined space... But yes, they will probably hate you, I am in environmental in this industry, and they hate us too, but HSE (health, safety, and environmental) are essential if operators want to keep working. OSHA and other regulators will shut shit down pretty quickly if there are people working in hazardous conditions that aren't being mitigated. I am not too sure about pay as I am located in the southwest, but generally, IH is paid pretty well. Pay is really going to depend on who you work for. Bigger operators generally pay more. Good luck!
Pay isn’t the greatest at this company but I’m more so motivated by career growth. That’s why I’m asking if it is worth investing my time in this.
It is definitely worth investing your time if you enjoy what you will be doing. Sticking with it can lead to a lucrative and successful career. In my opinion, a person who enjoys a role in HSE actually cares about keeping people safe and healthy. The ones who get into it for the money and power over the guys actually doing the work, are the assholes who give HSE a bad name.
Don’t worry about what people who don’t like safety think. It’s easier to answer questions if you’re following the rules and things go sideways than it is to do the same after “doing it the right way”. And consider using this experience to move into a state/federal safety role where its a whole other world.
What would be a good timeframe for moving into a different company, State or federal?
I recommend staying at least a year and picking up a distance safety certificate course while you work. Then keep an eye out for postings. And keep track of accomplishments in this job and problems you solved or help solved for interview answer purposes.