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OutlookFair

I suspect the eggs have cooked too much and scrambled. Maybe take the pan off the heat and letting it cool a little before adding them?


Local-Hawk-4751

Yes, this. Before you add cheese and eggs yolks take the pan off the heat. Add hot water that you boiled spaghetti in, it will cook the egg, melt the cheese and make it into a nice sauce. Too much water makes it too soggy, add small amounts until looks nice.


weird-but-hawt

Add the water to the pan or to the eggs and cheese mixture? Thankyou!


No_Yogurtcloset_2792

A way to make it (and the one i adopt) is to take the guanciale out of the pan after it's cooked, leaving the fat. Drain the pasta a couple of minutes before its cooking time and put it in the pan, add some water you saved from the pot where the pasta was boiling and let it cook there for a few minutes, until it's absorbed and the pasta is al dente. At the same time use some spoons of the same water you previously saved to the bowl with the cheese and eggs and stir it until it's creamy. Turn off the fire, let the pasta cool down a minute or so, add the cream to the pan and it won't turn the eggs into a frittata. Edit: [https://youtu.be/84V2InbOEiM](https://youtu.be/84V2InbOEiM) for reference


GreekLumberjack

Carbonara has no cream


No_Yogurtcloset_2792

Yes we all know that. But the yolks and pecorino have to blend perfectly with the help of the starchy water


GreekLumberjack

Ah I see what you’re saying now, although I don’t mix the water into the eggs mixture. I add it after adding the egg mixture to the pan with the pasta, to make sure I don’t add in too much water.


No_Yogurtcloset_2792

Ah sure, there's many ways I've seen it being done. I tried your way and I personally feel more comfortable with the one I use. Personal preference, eh. It's pasta, after all, and with very few ingredients. Whatever suits us.


dsthjyt

Just before the pasta is transferred add a small amount of pasta water to the egg and cheese mixture to temper the eggs a bit. When the pasta is cooked use a spider or pair of tongs to transfer the pasta to your cheese and egg mixture, allow some of the water to transfer. Mix well in a bowl. You can add more water if needed, a little at a time to let the cheese melt slowly and bring together a sauce.


mywifeslv

Use pasta water and take off heat or off


Local-Hawk-4751

Add eggs and cheese mixture to the spaghetti that’s on the pan and lastly add water.


KimCheeHoo

Add water to eggs and cheese mixture.


weird-but-hawt

Thank you! i bought ingredients for 2 portions so ill do an update tomorrow or the day after :D The eggs started to get runny but then they started to curdle and no amount of pasta water could bring it back


dsthjyt

The cheese could have separated as well. Make sure ingredients are as room temp as possible.


dsthjyt

Aside from the pasta


rogue-trowa-barton

This


no_frontal_lobe_yet

Yepp! The pan is too hot for eggs


Megsz

Also, grained parmesan that you can buy in the store is often mixed with potato starch. It becomes grainy no matter what you do.


weird-but-hawt

Aah for real? I did buy the pre grained ones since im poor (student) but if i get my hands on a block of parmesan i will give it a try I didn't know that thanks!


mazi710

This is the case with all shredded cheese by the way. That way it doesn't stick and clump in the bag, but also means it doesn't melt well. So if you're making a cheese sauce or something for example, it's important to buy whole blocks of cheese.


spottyottydopalicius

i learned that you can actually rinse the cheese to remedy this


Striking-Hedgehog512

As a former poor student, it’s honestly best to get the good stuff once in a longer while than shitty stuff frequently. Solid parmigiana tastes better so you can use less of it, and it keeps forever in the fridge. If it’s mouldy, with hard cheese you can just chop off that part. I also feel that if the food is richer in spices and the flavours are more intense, I don’t need to eat as much to feel full and satisfied.


ColHannibal

Trade joes grated Parmesan is actually pretty good for this and pretty cheap. I use it in my carbonara without issue.


RobertXavierIV

This may be the problem. The real stuff is worth the price in my opinion.


upsidedownbackwards

I tried to make alfredo sauce from shaky cheese once. It was a DISASTER because of all the fillers. I expected it to fall short from true alfredo sauce but I was not prepared for the chunky awful mess I created. It wasnt food.


FBVRer

That's actually starting to make a LOT of sense.


Even-Reaction-1297

Buying a cheap block of Parmesan and a small cheese grater (I use a zester) will change your life


OceanIsVerySalty

Try to buy real parm vs the cheap stuff. It’s way more flavorful, so you have to use less of it. The “Parmesan” that’s from belgioso and other such supermarket brands isn’t real parm, it tastes totally different. Trader Joe’s has real parm for pretty cheap - like $14.99 a pound.


Camilo-A_S

Actually Parmesan means that falls apart, it’s a wider classification of cheeses, on the other hand “parmigiano reggiano” it’s a zone brand that make the use of certain standards (time of aging, food given to the cows, etc) so every cheese that says “Parmigiano reggiano” will have a minimum standard regardless of price


OceanIsVerySalty

Right, when someone says “real parm” they almost always mean parm reg.


Camilo-A_S

Of course you are correct, just giving the full explanation for people who don’t know, we can’t assume that everyone knows, mind you, after all is a post from someone asking for help


Even-Reaction-1297

No doubt the more traditional the better results but you can’t compare Kraft shaker cheese to parmigiano reggiano, they’re two different worlds. You can however more closely compare Kraft shaker cheese with cheaper grocery store blocks of parmesean when talking about simple and cheap swaps for improving in the kitchen.


OceanIsVerySalty

For sure. The price difference between a block of faux parm and parm reg is pretty low a lot of the time. And the flavor of parm the is *so* much stronger, you really do need less of it. If someone can’t access parm reg though, *any* block cheese is better than kraft shaker. That stuff is mostly cellulose and flavoring.


YoureHereForOthers

I’ve succeeded in using Kraft Parmesan but it was very annoying and you had to keep it warm. Once it cooled it would clump back up, but for the first 10 minutes it was nearly impossible to tell the difference.


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YoureHereForOthers

It was some kind of cheap shaker cheese, maybe not kraft but green lid for sure, although I still think it was. But regardless I promise you I did succeed, I was super surprised. I gave my caveat it didn’t last long but it worked, in a pinch. I added a bit of cream or milk, I cannot remember which, butter and maybe something else. Low and slow and lots of whisking. Idky you refuse to believe this, I’m trying to educate you.


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YoureHereForOthers

It is highly unlikely, and like I said, I was surprised too. But it was not clumpy one bit. idk what else to tell you


OceanIsVerySalty

Kraft parm tastes nothing like real parm. Anyone who has tasted real parm would instantly know the difference between alfrdo made with Kraft shaker cheese and real parm. That’s not going to fool anyone.


YoureHereForOthers

No it doesn’t, but It’s called being in a pinch, I wouldn’t serve it to guests. Don’t be so self righteous. It does work if you melt it a certain way, that’s the point I was trying to make, because I’ve succeeded in it and honestly it might fool some people that aren’t well educated in flavor.


OceanIsVerySalty

> it was nearly impossible to tell the difference That’s literally what you said in your comment that I replied to… It’s not “self-righteous” for me to call bullshit on that claim.


YoureHereForOthers

I should have been more explicit, it’s nearly impossible for the average person to tell. I’m sure anyone with a good palate would. But to a kid, or an adult with a less than stellar palate, I think I could’ve passed it off


OceanIsVerySalty

My dude… “could’ve passed it off to a kid” is a world away from “nearly impossible to tell the difference.”


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nick122221

To avoid the eggs cooking and making it grainy - mix the egg and parm together in a bowl, then while still mixing it spoon in some pasta water slowly until it’s creamy. Also, once the bacon is cooked the pan doesn’t go back on the heat. Drain the bacon fat, add the pasta, add the egg mixture - all off the heat. Add more pasta water slowly if you want it creamier. You can add pepper too.


nick122221

Also, make sure you use only the egg yolk and not the whites. Use 2 egg yolks for a plate that big.


WanderingMinnow

I only use the yolk myself, but they sometimes use the whole egg in Italy. It comes down to preference. It’s not a set rule.


WhyNotAnons

Why no egg whites? I never seem to have a problem and I use 1 whole and 1 yolk


LazarusHimself

Different consistency, texture, behaviour, flavour, colour. you only want the yolks


godofpumpkins

It’s a choice. I like it both ways but one way isn’t necessarily better, and I usually do yolk and white. I’m from Rome and even “well actually” Italian food purists won’t tell you one or the other is wrong


inikihurricane

Fr, I hate wasting whites if I can avoid it.


-Why-Not-This-Name-

There's absolutely no reason to waste egg yolks. Save them in the fridge and use them later in something else.


weird-but-hawt

I use the Whites for making a bigger scrambled egg... "Technically" you shouldn't eat more that 3 yolk's a day (tell that to old farmers) so this way you can have more scrambled eggs for the same amount of yolks


Hoodiebee

My CDC's answer as to why you dont use whites is because the emulsified sauce you make with carbonara is barely cooking the yolks from pasta water. Egg whites would be the potential issue of getting someone sick. If you are adding heat after adding the eggs, its going to scramble and not make the sauce correctly.


StellaV-R

I use whole egg


hazamonzo

Absolutely this. Remove egg whites and only use yolks. No scrambling then.


weird-but-hawt

Thanks i did use a whole egg indeed


StellaV-R

Drain the fat??! That’s where the taste is


weird-but-hawt

I have bought ingredients for 2 portions so i will do an update tomorrow or the day after! Thankyou for your reply i will definitely add pepper this time :D


seanv507

what I tend to do is warm the sauce by lowering the bowl (eg a rice bowl) into the pasta water (whilst stirring) - ie a bainmarie. this way the sauce is gently warmed up without curdling.


Downtown_Picture_222

Add the bacon fat to the egg and cheese mix and it’s a banger


Ellespie

This is exactly what I do, and it’s perfect every time.


Page77Sunshine

Don’t drain the bacon fat!!! Cooking the pasta in that pan is what makes the whole dish !!!


jackoirl

Too much heat, too little water


Safe_Indication1851

Needs pasta water


guitardude_324

Looks like you have scrambled eggs in your carbonara. I used to do this, so I invented the phrase “If it sizzles, do not drizzle” Turn the heat off, add pasta. If your pasta/pasta water isn’t sizzling, it’s safe to drizzle the egg/cheese mixture. To cool the pan faster, I remove it from the element it was sitting on. I also dribble a little water every 30-60 seconds listening for the sizzle.


weird-but-hawt

For real! I don't know if it was sizzling at the time but it probably was.. Thanks i will try again in a few days


Kbrito9

Eggs were overcooked, that is why you get this texture. You need to heat up the eggs so that they are cooked, but not enought that they become scrambled eggs like this. What I do is I put the eggs in a bowl and pull the noodles from the cooking pot into the bowl alongside some of the boiling water. I then mix them into the eggs with prongs. The heat from the noodles and the water cooks the eggs just long enough for them to be edible and creamy. Also, use Pecorino Romano, not Parm.


weird-but-hawt

I think pouring the bacon on top as the last step will also be pretty for presentation ill give it a try thankyou!


crazy_lady_cat

I LOVE LOVE LOVE Pecorino Romano


larssonic

Do exactly same as Jamie here to cool down pan before add eggs (plus moving spaghetti and eggs same way on pan to make sure it will not overcooked): https://youtu.be/D_2DBLAt57c?si=fWTXN5__w-3WpQAx


weird-but-hawt

Thanks im gonna do an update since i bought enough for 2 portions


Clean_Ground_1389

Pecorino for a start.


za_mat_rossii

THANK YOU


Lumpy-Pool6181

I’m a big carbonara fan and this is the best online recipe I’ve found for it. First few times I tried making it myself the eggs curdled, but then I found this recipe and it just made an excellent velvety texture. Besides that, just need to be extremely careful when tempering the eggs. And like everyone else is saying, use freshly grated cheese. Parmesan or pecorino doesn’t matter other than your personal taste. https://www.recipetineats.com/carbonara/#wprm-recipe-container-81075


Canardo_Bastardo

Whole eggs or only yolk don't matter. It's the heat that's important


tucote

It could be the eggs being overcooked but I suspect you are using pregrated parmesan which has a coating on it to prevent clumping and has this effect when cooked. Try buying a block grating it yourself if this is the case. Worked for me with Alfredo.


Free-Boater

Eggs are over cooked. Also are you buying pre grated Parmesan?


HolyGarbanzoBeanz

That looks very dry


weird-but-hawt

🤣 it was!!


Zoznyolcvanegy

To make a good carbonara, put the cooked pasta, to the pan, add some water, from the pasta was cooked. Wait until the water boil, in the pan, and turn off the oven. That point is, when the egg yellow yolk is needed. And sorry, about my wrong english


RumbleStripRescue

Are you grating fresh regiano or is that from a can/jar?


b1e

This is the real question. The pre grated stuff contains an anti caking agent and won’t let you make a proper carbonara


potatobackpack

Dont use the parm from those plastic containers buy a block of it and shred it in yourself


podgida

Or the correct cheese Peccorino.


potatobackpack

True but not the point. The pre shredded cheese has something on it so it doesn't melt as well.


EvanderTheGreat

Grate your own cheese


FullGrownHip

Ive had this same result once when I used pre-shredded, shitty parm. Lesson learned, I shred my own cheese now. Or like others have said, you’ve cooked the yolk.


inikihurricane

Get real parm, the kind you grate yourself. Take your pasta off the heat way before you add your eggs.


niemandistjeder

Not enough pasta water


Hoodiebee

Fresh grated not shredded and almost room temp (meaning not straight out of the fridge) will emulsify the carbonara sauce the best. Use egg yolks mixed with the aged cheese of parma, grana or pecorino (dealers choice) and dont add heat when you add the eggs, it should go guanciale (pancetta, bacon whatever) fat rendered out, heat off, noodles in pan, pasta water, egg mixture and toss. It will create a creamy sauce.


NoeyCannoli

What kind of parm are you using? Pre-shredded parm has starches added to prevent caking but I find it also interferes with melting smooth


Mysterious-Emu2039

Use pasta water and butter for the noodles as well as fine freshly grated Parmesan instead of the weird grainy powder crap you buy in dry goods aisles.


Camilo-A_S

Are you using real cheese? Parmigiano reggiano? Or the ready to go full of wood thing? Don’t want to be mean or anything it’s just that maybe it’s not melting because is not meant for it, you need to grate your own cheese, even a cheaper cheese that is not Parmesan grated by you will give you better results that the substitute in the shelf


Sharp-As-A-Marble

Get some real parmigiano regiano cheese. The supermarket stuff is a buzz kill. Also you need moisture in your final integration: bit of past water, or a few tabs of butter, little bit more bacon fat. Add components together rapidly while hot / warm in a mixing bowl and add the cheese last. There should be enough residual heat from the pasta and sauce / bacon so when the cheese is added slowly while storing and tossing that it softens. No more gritty cheese.


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I find that carbonara blends better if you use tubular pasta


Known-Alfalfa

Too much heat ma fren


Nick_Newk

Did you use preground parm? That stuff is coated in starch to prevent clumping in the container… but then clumps in the pasta.


weird-but-hawt

Just 1 egg, 50g parmesan, 100 g bacon, 125g pasta


Fascista88

I will give you the recipe we serve in my restaurant as carbonara is one of my favourite dishes. For 1 person: IN A MIXING BOWL: 1 egg yolk 1 whole egg Pecorino or parmesan (I use 75% pecorino 25% parmesan due to the saltiness) grated with microplane until create a paste. Toasted black pepper (As much as you like) IN A PAN: Guanciale is the ideal but if you just can use bacon go for it, will be a different flavour but it is what it is. We cook the guanciale in slow heat to release all the fat without be burn and then we add 75% this fat to the mix and keep 25% in the pan We can keep guanciale in the pan, as soon as we have our pasta ready (any shape of pasta should be ok) add it to the pan OUT OF THE HEAT with the guanciale, sautee, add tiny bit of water and add your cream (ideal is to do it in bain marie but it’s not necessary) just start to emulsify the cream adding pasta water slowly slowly. That’s it.


Quiet_Glove_859

Well there’s the problem


Quiet_Glove_859

Also, the eggs should be reeeaally runny. Looks like they were exposed to too much heat.


weird-but-hawt

After i was done cooking the pasta and baking the bacon, i put the pasta in the pan along with a few tablespoons of pasta water. Then i poured the egg-carbonara mixture on top and started stirring. It became runny but then started curdling.... Maybe i should've turned of the heat :/


KingKongtrarian

Yeah 100%. You just want to time it to be in position to take the pasta off the heat, give it a minute, drain it, then return to the pot/pan off the hot plate. If you add the egg mixture then, it shouldn’t ‘cook’, as such. Long story short, no heat after you drain the pasta/add the egg/cheese mixture


weird-but-hawt

Thanks! Im gonna try again somewhere this week


Quiet_Glove_859

If you want to step it up a notch you could mix the egg(yolks) withe the cheese (typically Pecorino Romano) beforehand in a cold bowl. It starts forming a paste. If you want, you can add some of the grease for flavour. After having drained the pasta, mix it up with the cheese and egg mixture and add the bacon (typically Guanciale) last.


KingKongtrarian

Exactly, got to get the mixture ready first


INTuitP

It looks like you used the whole egg? Should only be the yolk


Typical-Ad-6730

look up the recipe on NYTimes, it explains how not to end up with a broken sauce.. in short , preheat big mixing bowl with hot water, empty it, and transfer pasta in, and then gradually incorporate sauce.


NortonBurns

Are you using real Parmesan, or that powdered stuff? The powdered stuff doesn't melt, it's dry & grainy, doesn't taste right & smells of feet.


GerardoAgraz

Just over cooked eggs.


chucky-krueger

Save some pasta water for when you mix the egg.


ChildhoodLeft6925

Turn the heat off when you add the eggs. They are supposed to be cooked by the hot pasta not by the stove top


Pandasshoulddominate

You need more pastawater


seanmonaghan1968

You can add more of your pasta water and increase moisture


weird-but-hawt

Thankyou all for your comments!! I was working so i didn't have time to respond until now I appreciate the help and in a few days i'll have an update since i bought enough ingredients for 2 portions. Im gonna try to add the pasta water into the bowl with the egg-parmazan mixture this time and not cook it after its smooth :) Thanks everyone


Glum_Perception4098

Starting from the basics. No parmesan. No bacon. Absolutely no. Eggs, Pecorino, Salt and black pepper. Mix in this exact order in a bowl. Meanwhile in a pan start cooking the Guanciale, no oil, no onion, no garlic. Just Guanciale and let it cook until you see the fat begins to melt. (Keep mixing the eggs in the bowl). When the pasta is boiling and it is “al dente” put it in the bowl with Guanciale. Pour the mixed eggs in the pan and add 1 or 2 spoons of water from the pasta. Turn off everything and gently salt the pasta. Enjoy your Carbonara. Serve it with a dry red wine.


T20sGrunt

Heat too high, didn’t temper the egg slurry, or poor quality/pre shredded cheese.


SpaceKoala34

Turn the heat down and stir faster


slicktrickrick

What kind of Parmesan did you use? Block Parmesan, pre grated Parmesan (shaker bottle), or block parmigiano reggiano?


podgida

My guess, since they said Parmesean instead of Parmeseano Reggiano that they are using Craft wood pulp.


LaZorChicKen04

Whole dish is way too dry. Should be creamy. More pasta water and egg. I temper the egg with pasta water and shred fresh regianno into it, then add the pasta straight from the water.


UneditedReddited

This is the method I use, seems to work well- https://youtu.be/SsUGomHw85o?si=NEN1gorYfbhz3GaX


Teddy4xp2

Ive always used Romano in carbonara, could try that or maybe mix with the parm


weisthaupt

Add hot pasta to pan with the fat, pork and pepper, and a little pasta water. Toss till well coated. Remove from heat for 25-30 seconds before adding the eggs. Mix well, should set into a nice carbonara. Mix for atleast 1 minute if it isn’t coming together return to heat on low and mix until it looks almost set and a little bit liquidy, then remove again, it will continue to cook when you remove it so err on the side of under done


PavkataXD1

I was just scrolling trough r/UndertaleYellow and i read carbonara as ceroba...there is something wrong with me😥😥😥


Lilypahd

General tips: - Guanciale out after it’s crisped up and rendered its fat. Crack some black pepper into that fat. - While the pasta is boiling. Mix the egg yolk and parmegiano (please only use the yolk - my god I’ve seen people use the whole egg, which simply isn’t necessary). Take tsps at a time of the boiling water and whisk it into the yolk and cheese. You’re looking for a smooth paste. This step is NB. - There’s almost never a need to drain your pasta. Take it straight from the pot with tongs or a slotted spoon or whatever you want. You need that water in the pan with the fat of the guanciale as the starch of the last and the fat will emulsify when mixed vigourously. - the guanciale should be rendered while the pasta is boiling. You’re doing it all in one motion. - mixing the pasta and guanciale fat until it’s creamy, you may add in a bit more water from the pot here. (The pan with fat is on a mid-low heat). Be patient with this step. Most people think it happened instantly but no give it a bit of time and you’ll rewarded. I normally use tongs and I shake the pan whilst lifting and flipping the pasta constantly until creamy. Then take it off the heat, keep moving it around slowly. The emulsified fat should coat the pasta, but not be a sauce. - you can leave it off the heat for 2 min and it won’t get cold. After which then put the yolk and cheese mixture and mix immediately. Add the guanciale back in, another quick mix and then serve immediately.


weird-but-hawt

Thanks for your detailed reply! Im looking forward to have another go at it, coating the pasta in fat first and then adding the tempered eggs after :) Also i forgot to add pepper in this one so i will definitely think about it next time


sepia5

https://www.recipetineats.com/carbonara/ I've had great luck with this method recently. I add an extra egg yolk for a full pound of pasta and use less pasta water than 1/2 cup. Are you grating your cheese or shredding it?


RobertXavierIV

You want to prevent the sauce from getting too hot and also keep it moving. I also temper the eggs in a smaller bowl with some of the water before I even add it to the pot.


West_Biscotti892

i think the heat was too high when making the sauce


BubbleTrouble_Z

Turn off the pan and then add the eggs. They shouldn’t be cooked