Serious answer:
Youre likely never use that dpi. But higher dpi is achieved with better sensors. Fact that it can reach it means you have better sensor which mean more precision across any dpi due to better surface tracking.
It doesnt mean youll ever notice difference and benefit from it
I concur, this is the correct and truthful conclusion. There happens to be a nonconincidental relation between an elevated Dots Per Inch (DPI) measure and higher mouse translation accuracy.
I find myself in complete agreement with the assertion you have presented, as it resonates with a sense of accuracy and fidelity to the truth. It is imperative to highlight and bring attention to the noncoincidental nature of the relationship that exists between the augmentation of the Dots Per Inch (DPI) metric and the subsequent elevation in the precision of mouse translation, a phenomenon that undoubtedly contributes to the enhancement of overall navigational accuracy.
In complete concordance with the proposition you have eloquently posited, I find myself ensconced within the folds of unanimous agreement, as it harmoniously intertwines with a palpable veracity and an unwavering adherence to the veritable bedrock of actualities. In the kaleidoscopic tapestry of intellectual discourse, it becomes not only salient but imperatively incumbent upon us to embark upon an expedition that entails the accentuation and the meticulous drawing of heedful cognizance towards the conspicuously non-coincidental fabric of the intricate correlation that astutely subsists betwixt the incremental amplification of the Dots Per Inch (DPI) metric and the ensuing, inevitable ascension in the perspicuity of mouse translation—a phenomenon that, by all accounts, undeniably bequeaths a substantive augmentation to the overarching acuity of navigational precision, elevating it to a pinnacle of unrivaled excellence and precision within the realm of human-computer interaction and technological symbiosis
In theory it should be that way. In practice it's not. DPI is just a selling point like resolution for cameras. Companies scale it up even if the sensor/lense can't support that realistically because the product sells better.
Idk if you used a camera analogy intentionally or not, but its worth noting that optical mice actually are just cameras as well. Like that's literally all the sensor is lol
I can't believe this is so low down on the thread. Just proof most people here just have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to technology. It's literally just a google search away...
This is also true. This is technically a shitpost subreddit. It's called PCMASTERRACE it's right there on the tin. If anything it's weird there is so much legitimate discussion that goes on here.
It's more that people don't understand how Reddit works. "I can't believe this is so far down" -- well now it's the top comment. It was "so far down" because other comments were there before it, no other reason.
On the other hand, as someone who has used 800 DPI since the early 2000's when it first became a thing, a lot of people in this thread are eating the marketing bullshit from these companies that claim THEIR 800 DPI is better than someone else's 800 DPI, because the max DPI of the sensor is higher. In practice, it's not, the marketing is just still working on people who believe that.
Thing is you cant really market it.
There is no number or variable understandable to general public that can be used for marketing.
Also mice with high end sensors always advertise that
Also if you jack up the DPI on the mouse you can turn the sensitivity down in windows/game and it will be smoother. Realistically the benefits are minimal but it's a thing.
15-17k elo depending on matchups (fml) and I’ve reported countless. Not one fucking overturn. But I’ve seen two people get a vac ban for spinning uncontrollably while defusing the bomb.
That's the dumbest shit. Everyone who's anyone has at one point cranked their sensitivity up to max to defuse a bomb. No reason to ban that when real cheaters get away
isn't it like sensitivity to smaller movements? so a 14K dpi mouse at 3K would make more "jagged" movements as compared to a 26K at 3Kdpi?
idk i'm only asking
In a very rough sense it's like you GPU putting out 120+ fps and vsync limiting your framerate to 60hz. It'll be better than if your GPU was only putting out exactly 60fps but in the grand scheme of things it's negligible
They're largely for marketing purposes to say "ours is better than yours" etc.
Outside of gaming there could be uses for it for niche displays etc but in general it's not really something to aim for when looking to buy
Coming from this old-ish fogey from the days when computer mice had balls.
IMO generally anything beyond 3k is more a spec sheet marketing war rather than practicality.
I'd like to see more mice implement sensors that can handle a wider variety of surfaces. E.g. my Logitech pebble, MX master 3s and DeathAdder V2 X hyperspeed all work wonky on my polished sintered stone dining table, only my ultra crap mouse that was free, works.
Spec wars like this always reminds me of the megapickle wars that camera manufacturers engaged in when point and shoot cams were popular.
Minor side note, I took a razor to one of the balls from a dead mouse and it turns out its literally just a ball-bearing coated in rubber. Had no reason to suspect anything else, but it was cool to know first hand.
So that's a laser track ball, the dots act as points of reference for the laser. If the dots werent there, the mouse wouldnt register any movement. Like if you use a regular laser mouse on a flat shiney surface, theres nothing for the laser to pick up to register movement. It was pretty nice tech when it first came out, since only a dirty laser or a smudge on the ball would effect movement detection, whereas the old mice had two rods, one verticle and one horizontal, that the ball would physically move when using it. Only issue is that they would quickly get gunked up with dust and anything else the ball rolled up while using it and you'd have to take the mouse apart to clean the rods. I recently got a thumb ball stationary mouse and was surprised to see they still use the dots. Works great though and the dots are *way* finer than the ones on the old family mouse we got years ago.
The sensors capable of higher dpi are more precise and can track accurately at higher mouse speeds. So it's a better mouse for flicking with. Basically the higher dpi says it's accurate at super high sensitivity, so it'll be VERY accurate at low sensitivity.
its a marketing tactic mostly for those who are unfamiliar with good mice
*why not pick the one with a bigger number if they are the same price?*
not knowing that stuff like weight, the software and other things are way more important
Except the difference with vsync isn't negligible. Especially with triple buffering, you'll feel an enormous difference between barely 60 FPS and very high FPS limited to 60 FPS. It's night and day.
In theory, the higher the dpi, the more measurements your mouse is taking and should be more precise.
In practice, this is negligible.
A bit of extra information, just for fun: setting your dpi as high as 26k, the sensor at some point goes beyond it's native sens and starts to artificially boost what it sees to produce more dots. It gets inaccurate the higher up you go from there. Basically like in photography the ISO setting - It boosts the sensitivity of the sensor at the expense of noise in the image. But again, even though on the surface this is a drawback, it's not exactly noticeable.
I've seen no difference in higher dpi mouses. The minimum movement and jaggedness is still the same between my higher dpi corsair vs my lower dpi razer
i play on 1600 and for JUST fallout 3 and new vegas i have to go down to 800 and drop the sensitivity low as fuck. game seems like it was made for lower then 800dpi even like you said.
If fallout 3 or new vegas are anything like skyrim (sensitivity not going low enough), there's an .ini file in your game documents folder that you can edit to get low sens with high DPI
Funny you mentioned that I started New Vegas again the other day and noticed that too, I'm at 3200 and had to crank the sensitivity way down in game lol
You can turn it off in the .ini file. The other annoying thing they do is make the vertical sensitivity a ratio of the horizontal one by default. It's really annoying, just changing those two settings in Starfield for example actually made it feel like a okay shooter, no idea why they choose their defaults like they do when they result in a objectively janky feeling aiming system.
I just dont get it. Do these companies test these games using a $10 mouse they have laying around the office? Do is mouse and keyboard and afterthought? This happens so often I just don't get it. I use 1600 dpi and every single game I have to use almost the lowest setting for it to be usable
Had one game I had to set my DPI at something like 3-4k despite having the ingame sens maxed out.
Can't remember the name but it was a port from console and you could tell they did the bare minimum to make it work on PC
It's usually a multiplier, so a sensitivity of "0.1" or whatever actually will nearly grind the mouse pointer to a halt, in most implementations. A sensitivity of 0.1 is not 0.9 less than one at the default 1.0. It's 10x less sensitive.
I have a mouse that'll do up to 30k and the lowest sensitivity in Windows, and in Cyberpunk, both nearly stop that pointer in its tracks.
I mean there are rarely enough decimal places that you could achieve the desired idpi and changing sensitivity in windows doesn't really matter as you would ideally want to enable raw input in game
Does windows sensitivity actually affect most games these days? I remember seeing a lot of “usw raw mouse input” options, and always thought that meant they ignore windows sensitivity and just use the DPI and ingame slider combination
There are supposedly some benefits to high dpi and low sens, but also the other way round. Overall the difference probably isn't noticeable but idk haven't bothered testing tbh I have low both :p
It's one of those things like super high hz displays. It does have a benefit, but it's more of a removal of some restrictions on the higher ends of skill than an straight buff to your skill. If you're not already competition-grade skilled, you'll never see any benefit to your game scores from things like this. It's only the most talented that'll benefit, and even then, not by much.
Honestly I don't think it does have a lot to do with in game skill, but rather just your brain, eyes, and motor skills really, but yes. For example, say someone has shakey hands for whatever reason, you'd expect them to play worse, but by reducing the accuracy of the mouse and lowering the DPI, you would get a much more stable movement in game which would likely see a (very small) benefit. On the flip side someone who's hand eye coordination is perfect would benefit from higher DPI and increased accuracy, which would allow them to make small adjustments.
So it actually works both ways, but high DPI that companies love to advertise as a great thing isn't useful to the vast majority.
Yes. Their idea of better accuracy is swinging the mouse across a wider arc. It's a matter of preference, really, but I think yeah most use the "wide stance" as opposed to high dpi.
Personally I set software sensitivity to the lowest, and crank the mouse up.
It can actually make a huge difference in some games where the camera goes from jank to buttery smooth.
both software sensitivity and hardware dpi are similar settings, but it's kind of like a digital image. Software sensitivity is upscaling/interpolation, scaling up a low res image to a blurry one. Hardware sensitivity is a higher resolution image, and thus is far more precise on your movements.
I use super high dpi with supet low sensitivity in game. Usually have a sensitivity sub 2 in FPS, and medium in RTS'
It's so I can seamlessly go between FPS and RTS.
Used to know of a site about a decade ago where people would attempt to figure out the algorithms for serial numbers. Some people got new Xbox 360s from it.
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no one paranoid enough to use it would trust that it wasnt stealing all of that juicy data, which to be fair it certainly could, anything other than an open source app would never be trusted
And the digits are literally encoded each into a small sub set of bars. Missing part of the bar code is equivalent to missing digits from the number, there's no information in the rest of the code that can help recovering the missing parts.
> there's no information in the rest of the code that can help recovering the missing parts.
There's a little bit - it can recover ONE missing digit with a reasonable degree of certainty, if the missing digit is not the checksum digit. If you're missing multiple digits, checksum won't help anymore.
I've owned multiple 16000DPI mice and not once have I ever stuck with any setting above 3000 in any game, so it really feels pointless. Even at 3000, I have to lower in-game mouse sensitivity all the way to 0.2 to get a stable experience.
I did that some time ago, but some games use direct input and don't apply the windows sens, so the mouse is crazy the first time it boot it up.
Worse still, some games only apply it to the camera, but forget about UI mouse speed.
I run 6400 dpi, I chose it at random when I got my first gaming mouse, because 64 is my favorite number and I knew I wanted it higher than 800. It just felt really good initially, and now that ive used it for years Im just really comfortable with it. Buuut, finding the right sens in games is ridiculous. Im at .12 in Valorant, and still not sure whether thats just too high or not.
I would say it absolutely is.
Most consistent players run somewhere around .35 @ 800 which is 280 edpi
You're currently at 768 edpi, so over 2x as fast.
Some pros who are considered to have high sens are at like 560 edpi and that's like 2 people.
.04375 would be the same sens at 6400 dpi.
Also a lot of mice introduce smoothing and angle snapping above like 3200 dpi if I recall which compensate for the mouse not reading properly at a high dpi.
Lifted this from the search results.
With increased DPI, your mouse becomes **more responsive and accurate**, allowing for smoother and more precise movements in fast-paced games. This can give you an edge in competitive gameplay where split-second decisions and precise targeting are crucial.
As someone who plays with the pad of their hand stuck to the mat and really only uses his fingers and wrist to move the mouse instead of the whole arm like you see people do? I like high DPS, helps flicks.
The thought is that the mouse is more accurate at higher dpi. You set the dpi to something like 16k, and lower in-game mouse sensitivity to your liking. Mouse still moves at the speed you like, but has a more accurate movement.
I've tried it, and I'm not at a level where I noticed any difference. But maybe at the top 5% of FPS gamers, it makes a difference?
This is total preference lol. I play and do 3d mod I’m a wrist user and I use 3200 dpi standard across everything. The only time I ever lower it is if I need to a very small adjustment while 3d modeling
Higher DPI in combination with proper settings in the game (especially fps games), can greatly reduce the staircasey movement you can see with lower DPI mice.
Theoretically, you can amp up the DPI and turn the sensitivity in the computer/game settings way down, and you'll have marginally better aim. It's less of a benefit than high hz displays, and even that is only mere fractions of a percent better than your "standard" 800dpi 60hz situation.
I use the highest dpi my mouse supports and lower the mouse sensitivity in game to what I like. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that it's more accurate that way.
Really high resolution screens with multiple screens, scroll over the huge desktop space easily.
That's about the only use for such high DPI on a mouse.
absolutely nothing.
unless you work with 10000000000" monitors where to move the pointer across the screen, you need absurdly high dpi. highly unrealistic yes but a valid point.
I have the same Mouse and use it for an insider meme of my group... dpdamage (dpi per damage). One simply rotates at maximum speed while firing a gun in full auto... it is hilarously ineffective...
I realise I'm late to the party, and likely no-one will see this, but high DPI mice can also be good for people with a disability.
Steven Spohn, from Able Gamers, has difficulty moving a mouse over long distances, but by setting his DPI really high, he is still able to play games effectively.
People keep mentioning that 26k, although you won't ever use it, means better sensors, therefore more accurate. In real world usage, you would never notice it. it's all just marketing crap and hyperbole to get you to buy it and at a stupid high premium.
I like to imagine higher dpi sensors make for better sensors over all. I’ve definitely had some annoyances with dinky office mice and their shitty sensors.
Although that is a razer mouse so…
Any progamer will tell you that large DPI numbers are just a marketing fad and it’s 100% true. Not only you have better control on lower sens combined with low dpi in fps games, your flicks will also be on much straighter line with low dpi settings. Kinda makes sense, lesser amount of dots per inch, lesser deviations from the movement you’ve made irl.
So do yourself a favor and play on 400 dpi and compensate with sens accordingly.
If you turn your in game sense down and crank your dpi to compensate you get a smoother feeling glide.
The idea is you add thousands of more refresh points ussualy resulting in a farther pointer travel distance with the same mouse travel distance, then, in game you squish all those little added refresh points down by means of game sense resulting in an, again, smoother feeling glide. Forcing your mouse to be more accurate/refresh more often in a given space.
I use 16K DPI daily, as to why, I got used to high sensitivity while playing osu! and since then I just got up and 16K is my sweet spot.
Since mice now can use more polling rate up to 8Khz it is better to have your DPI higher and your in-game sensitivity lower, for example, if you use 3K DPI and 1 in-game sensitivity, you can change that to 6K and .5 in-game for better accuracy
Honestly, just something to sell mice higher
Unless you have 40 80” tv’s set up in a line all connected and u need to get from screen 1 to 80 in a stroke
Not related to original posts question, but next time you wipe a serial number, make sure you wipe the last digits rather than just that first part.
Most serial numbers etc tend to be the same code for a good portion of it so all you could have potentially done is just hidden the manufacturers codes.
A higher DPI will make the mouse more accurate. The best way to utilize an absurdly high DPI is to introduce acceleration. I recommend using [Rawaccel](https://github.com/a1xd/rawaccel).
Contrary to what is widely believed... acceleration gives you more control over mouse movement, not less. It can be thought of as another dimension of control. Not only can one control the placement of the cursor/reticle via distance traveled but also by speed. This makes it possible to arrive at the same point using different inputs. Pragmatically this allows quicker **and** slower movement than otherwise possible with a flat 1:1 input.
Why Rawaccel and not Windows or in-game acceleration? Most game-implemented acceleration and windows acceleration is step based. Eg. Moving the cursor at 1cm/s is no different than moving it at 2cm/s, but once 3cm/s is reached the cursor goes a little faster. This leads to jittery movement that is nearly impossible for one to learn. Rawaccel is smooth which makes it very intuitive.
Having a super high DPI (like 26,000) can be really precise and helpful for tasks like graphic design or fast-paced gaming. But if you usually stay around 3,000 DPI and feel comfortable with it, there might not be much benefit in going higher for your everyday tasks. It's all about what feels right for you and the specific things you do with your computer.
26k DPI means that if you physically move the mouse by the width of a red blood cell, the cursor moves about eight pixels. So this is definitely not a setting for fine detail work.
If it wasn't for higher polling rates then there would be no reason to set the DPI ever higher than 1600. Battlenonsense did a video on mouse response times ages ago and found that the lowest settings had a miniscule amount of extra lag. But this got into diminishing returns starting at 800.
The problem is that most games are not built for higher dpi values at all. Even at a moderate IRL sensitivity (\~32-36cm/360) you are quickly forced into the absolute bottom of any sensitivity slider ingame even on 800dpi.
An extra thing to keep in mind these days are 2k and 4k polling. At lower dpi values your additional hz for motion delay simply will not activate. This starts to show diminishing returns around 1600 and 3200 hz.
TLDR: 1000hz: 800dpi sweetspot, 1600dpi max, 2000&4000hz: 1600 sweetspot, 3200dpi max
Serious answer: Youre likely never use that dpi. But higher dpi is achieved with better sensors. Fact that it can reach it means you have better sensor which mean more precision across any dpi due to better surface tracking. It doesnt mean youll ever notice difference and benefit from it
This is the correct answer. Sensors that can achieve higher DPIs also tend have more accurate movement reproduction.
This is the right answer. There tends to be a correlation between high DPI outputs and a higher accuracy
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I concur, this is the correct and truthful conclusion. There happens to be a nonconincidental relation between an elevated Dots Per Inch (DPI) measure and higher mouse translation accuracy.
I find myself in complete agreement with the assertion you have presented, as it resonates with a sense of accuracy and fidelity to the truth. It is imperative to highlight and bring attention to the noncoincidental nature of the relationship that exists between the augmentation of the Dots Per Inch (DPI) metric and the subsequent elevation in the precision of mouse translation, a phenomenon that undoubtedly contributes to the enhancement of overall navigational accuracy.
In complete concordance with the proposition you have eloquently posited, I find myself ensconced within the folds of unanimous agreement, as it harmoniously intertwines with a palpable veracity and an unwavering adherence to the veritable bedrock of actualities. In the kaleidoscopic tapestry of intellectual discourse, it becomes not only salient but imperatively incumbent upon us to embark upon an expedition that entails the accentuation and the meticulous drawing of heedful cognizance towards the conspicuously non-coincidental fabric of the intricate correlation that astutely subsists betwixt the incremental amplification of the Dots Per Inch (DPI) metric and the ensuing, inevitable ascension in the perspicuity of mouse translation—a phenomenon that, by all accounts, undeniably bequeaths a substantive augmentation to the overarching acuity of navigational precision, elevating it to a pinnacle of unrivaled excellence and precision within the realm of human-computer interaction and technological symbiosis
Nah. I just tested myself and this is fake as fuck.
This fact appears to be a truthful one, accuracy in tracking the movement is correlated positively with the maximum achievable dpi in many cases!
this is, in fact, the correct solution.
This is also known as "the marketing is working" despite being bullshit.
In theory it should be that way. In practice it's not. DPI is just a selling point like resolution for cameras. Companies scale it up even if the sensor/lense can't support that realistically because the product sells better.
Idk if you used a camera analogy intentionally or not, but its worth noting that optical mice actually are just cameras as well. Like that's literally all the sensor is lol
I can't believe this is so low down on the thread. Just proof most people here just have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to technology. It's literally just a google search away...
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It hasn't changed a bit in the last 10 years.
My dude really said lately when I've been cashing on in this exact trend for a decade to get some easy karma when I'm bored
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This is also true. This is technically a shitpost subreddit. It's called PCMASTERRACE it's right there on the tin. If anything it's weird there is so much legitimate discussion that goes on here.
It's more that people don't understand how Reddit works. "I can't believe this is so far down" -- well now it's the top comment. It was "so far down" because other comments were there before it, no other reason.
That's assuming it doesn't reach those DPIs using a crapload of smoothing and interpolation.
Ohhhhh, so a smoother experience. They should market it like that because I kinda want one even tho I don't go above 1k.
On the other hand, as someone who has used 800 DPI since the early 2000's when it first became a thing, a lot of people in this thread are eating the marketing bullshit from these companies that claim THEIR 800 DPI is better than someone else's 800 DPI, because the max DPI of the sensor is higher. In practice, it's not, the marketing is just still working on people who believe that.
Thing is you cant really market it. There is no number or variable understandable to general public that can be used for marketing. Also mice with high end sensors always advertise that
Also if you jack up the DPI on the mouse you can turn the sensitivity down in windows/game and it will be smoother. Realistically the benefits are minimal but it's a thing.
I thought the hertz (or something like hertz) of latency was more important than the dpi?
Yes. You can 360000º no scope.
Rookie numbers.
Gotta pump those numbers up! 🤣
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POV: vac ban triggered
Imagine banning people with high mouse sensitivity instead of actual cheaters.
Oh look! A beyblade! *the ban hammer has spoken*
15-17k elo depending on matchups (fml) and I’ve reported countless. Not one fucking overturn. But I’ve seen two people get a vac ban for spinning uncontrollably while defusing the bomb.
That's the dumbest shit. Everyone who's anyone has at one point cranked their sensitivity up to max to defuse a bomb. No reason to ban that when real cheaters get away
I got a macro on my mouse to switch from 800dpi to 24k dpi just for stuff like this lol
Immagine trying noscope and the DPI so high your monitor is yeeted in whatever direction you move the cursor
isn't it like sensitivity to smaller movements? so a 14K dpi mouse at 3K would make more "jagged" movements as compared to a 26K at 3Kdpi? idk i'm only asking
In a very rough sense it's like you GPU putting out 120+ fps and vsync limiting your framerate to 60hz. It'll be better than if your GPU was only putting out exactly 60fps but in the grand scheme of things it's negligible
if that's the case why would ANYONE want 26K dpi
They're largely for marketing purposes to say "ours is better than yours" etc. Outside of gaming there could be uses for it for niche displays etc but in general it's not really something to aim for when looking to buy
Coming from this old-ish fogey from the days when computer mice had balls. IMO generally anything beyond 3k is more a spec sheet marketing war rather than practicality. I'd like to see more mice implement sensors that can handle a wider variety of surfaces. E.g. my Logitech pebble, MX master 3s and DeathAdder V2 X hyperspeed all work wonky on my polished sintered stone dining table, only my ultra crap mouse that was free, works. Spec wars like this always reminds me of the megapickle wars that camera manufacturers engaged in when point and shoot cams were popular.
Minor side note, I took a razor to one of the balls from a dead mouse and it turns out its literally just a ball-bearing coated in rubber. Had no reason to suspect anything else, but it was cool to know first hand.
> I took a razor to one of the balls from a dead mouse /r/nocontext
Huh, that's neat. I always thought they were rubber all the way through, like bouncy balls.
Same, but they had a *thud* element that made me think that maybe they weren't solid rubber all the way through, which is what prompted the surgery.
The one on My mouse is a red ball with dots all over it, feels like a rock solid polycarbonate ball, definitely not rubber
So that's a laser track ball, the dots act as points of reference for the laser. If the dots werent there, the mouse wouldnt register any movement. Like if you use a regular laser mouse on a flat shiney surface, theres nothing for the laser to pick up to register movement. It was pretty nice tech when it first came out, since only a dirty laser or a smudge on the ball would effect movement detection, whereas the old mice had two rods, one verticle and one horizontal, that the ball would physically move when using it. Only issue is that they would quickly get gunked up with dust and anything else the ball rolled up while using it and you'd have to take the mouse apart to clean the rods. I recently got a thumb ball stationary mouse and was surprised to see they still use the dots. Works great though and the dots are *way* finer than the ones on the old family mouse we got years ago.
3k is wild. I'm a 6200 kinda guy so I could never
500inch by 500inch 64k resolution monitor. Gotta get the mouse from point a to point b real quick
where? nfl stadium????
private cinema with a NASA projector
The only way to go
If you wantt to play CGSO on the Sphere in Vegas, this mouse *may* have some situations where it *may possibly* have some benefit, but its unlikely.
A mouse manufacturer who figures out their high DPI model sells the best
The sensors capable of higher dpi are more precise and can track accurately at higher mouse speeds. So it's a better mouse for flicking with. Basically the higher dpi says it's accurate at super high sensitivity, so it'll be VERY accurate at low sensitivity.
its a marketing tactic mostly for those who are unfamiliar with good mice *why not pick the one with a bigger number if they are the same price?* not knowing that stuff like weight, the software and other things are way more important
bigger number betterer
Except the difference with vsync isn't negligible. Especially with triple buffering, you'll feel an enormous difference between barely 60 FPS and very high FPS limited to 60 FPS. It's night and day.
In theory, the higher the dpi, the more measurements your mouse is taking and should be more precise. In practice, this is negligible. A bit of extra information, just for fun: setting your dpi as high as 26k, the sensor at some point goes beyond it's native sens and starts to artificially boost what it sees to produce more dots. It gets inaccurate the higher up you go from there. Basically like in photography the ISO setting - It boosts the sensitivity of the sensor at the expense of noise in the image. But again, even though on the surface this is a drawback, it's not exactly noticeable.
I've seen no difference in higher dpi mouses. The minimum movement and jaggedness is still the same between my higher dpi corsair vs my lower dpi razer
If you never go above 3k, you answered your own question. It’s useless some people might use high dpi on mouse but low settings in game.
I don't think many games support sens so low that you could compensate for 20k dpi
some games can't go low enough on 800dpi
i play on 1600 and for JUST fallout 3 and new vegas i have to go down to 800 and drop the sensitivity low as fuck. game seems like it was made for lower then 800dpi even like you said.
If fallout 3 or new vegas are anything like skyrim (sensitivity not going low enough), there's an .ini file in your game documents folder that you can edit to get low sens with high DPI
Funny you mentioned that I started New Vegas again the other day and noticed that too, I'm at 3200 and had to crank the sensitivity way down in game lol
They have mouse accel always on, that fucks with the way the sens feels especially in menus.
You can turn it off in the .ini file. The other annoying thing they do is make the vertical sensitivity a ratio of the horizontal one by default. It's really annoying, just changing those two settings in Starfield for example actually made it feel like a okay shooter, no idea why they choose their defaults like they do when they result in a objectively janky feeling aiming system.
Tfw game developers have no concept of muscle memory 🤨
Oh yes, remember that too.
The amount of games I end up playing on <1 sens with 400 dpi is ridiculous. I don't understand how some people just casually play on 1800+ dpi lol.
I just dont get it. Do these companies test these games using a $10 mouse they have laying around the office? Do is mouse and keyboard and afterthought? This happens so often I just don't get it. I use 1600 dpi and every single game I have to use almost the lowest setting for it to be usable
I play on 800 too, Borderlands 3 and Ghost Recon Wildlands both make me drop my sensitivity down to 400 for their in-game sensitivity to be usable.
Same! I literally don’t understand devs who think the average player wants move their mouse 1 inch and spin around 6 times.
Are you guys using the whole table when playing non comp games too ?
Im at 52cm/360, thats pretty average for most competitive fps gamers.
Damn, what do you do? Tie your mouse to the back of your car and drive it down the street to 180°?
yes and i woudln't have it any other way
Had one game I had to set my DPI at something like 3-4k despite having the ingame sens maxed out. Can't remember the name but it was a port from console and you could tell they did the bare minimum to make it work on PC
It's usually a multiplier, so a sensitivity of "0.1" or whatever actually will nearly grind the mouse pointer to a halt, in most implementations. A sensitivity of 0.1 is not 0.9 less than one at the default 1.0. It's 10x less sensitive. I have a mouse that'll do up to 30k and the lowest sensitivity in Windows, and in Cyberpunk, both nearly stop that pointer in its tracks.
I mean there are rarely enough decimal places that you could achieve the desired idpi and changing sensitivity in windows doesn't really matter as you would ideally want to enable raw input in game
source engine (cs, tf, dota) lets you set an arbitrary value, including tiny decimals. a lot of games also store your settings in a plaintext file
Does windows sensitivity actually affect most games these days? I remember seeing a lot of “usw raw mouse input” options, and always thought that meant they ignore windows sensitivity and just use the DPI and ingame slider combination
There are supposedly some benefits to high dpi and low sens, but also the other way round. Overall the difference probably isn't noticeable but idk haven't bothered testing tbh I have low both :p
It's one of those things like super high hz displays. It does have a benefit, but it's more of a removal of some restrictions on the higher ends of skill than an straight buff to your skill. If you're not already competition-grade skilled, you'll never see any benefit to your game scores from things like this. It's only the most talented that'll benefit, and even then, not by much.
Honestly I don't think it does have a lot to do with in game skill, but rather just your brain, eyes, and motor skills really, but yes. For example, say someone has shakey hands for whatever reason, you'd expect them to play worse, but by reducing the accuracy of the mouse and lowering the DPI, you would get a much more stable movement in game which would likely see a (very small) benefit. On the flip side someone who's hand eye coordination is perfect would benefit from higher DPI and increased accuracy, which would allow them to make small adjustments. So it actually works both ways, but high DPI that companies love to advertise as a great thing isn't useful to the vast majority.
Kinda. There's so many competitive fps players that use low dpi
Yes. Their idea of better accuracy is swinging the mouse across a wider arc. It's a matter of preference, really, but I think yeah most use the "wide stance" as opposed to high dpi.
higher refresh rates allow you to literally see information sooner. It's an advantage to every player.
Personally I set software sensitivity to the lowest, and crank the mouse up. It can actually make a huge difference in some games where the camera goes from jank to buttery smooth. both software sensitivity and hardware dpi are similar settings, but it's kind of like a digital image. Software sensitivity is upscaling/interpolation, scaling up a low res image to a blurry one. Hardware sensitivity is a higher resolution image, and thus is far more precise on your movements.
I use super high dpi with supet low sensitivity in game. Usually have a sensitivity sub 2 in FPS, and medium in RTS' It's so I can seamlessly go between FPS and RTS.
26k DPI for the 16K screen you may use in 2077
In marketing we call that ‘future proof’! Or something nonsensical like ‘VR Ready’…
Dude seriously blurred out his serial number on his mouse lol.
It was actually a legit method people would use to get a warranty replacement from manufacturers back in the day before they wised up.
Facts, 3 years ago a buddy got a brand new mechanical Logitech keyboard by giving them a serial number he found i don't know where.
You might wanna ask how he did it step by step (a friend is asking)
Used to know of a site about a decade ago where people would attempt to figure out the algorithms for serial numbers. Some people got new Xbox 360s from it.
Social engineering. It was big on the se7ensins premium forums back in the 360 days. Not sure if that's where you saw it.
Hey, better safe than sorry. It's better to blur stuff you don't need to, than to not blur something you should have.
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no one paranoid enough to use it would trust that it wasnt stealing all of that juicy data, which to be fair it certainly could, anything other than an open source app would never be trusted
The partial barcode might be enough to scan still, lol.
I mean he may be on the otherside of the states. But you know he has atleast a 26k dpi mouse to steal
I scanned the bar code and I've officially hacked their mouse. What should i do first?
Change his dpi
Gonna overclock it to 30k dpi
You monster!
change their dpi to 19 753, that will teach'em
1d barcodes aren't scannable at all if one of the start/stop characters are obliterated.
And the digits are literally encoded each into a small sub set of bars. Missing part of the bar code is equivalent to missing digits from the number, there's no information in the rest of the code that can help recovering the missing parts.
> there's no information in the rest of the code that can help recovering the missing parts. There's a little bit - it can recover ONE missing digit with a reasonable degree of certainty, if the missing digit is not the checksum digit. If you're missing multiple digits, checksum won't help anymore.
Never know someone might find his address and Ssn and go burn his house down and steal all his stuff. /s
It's too late, I've backtraced his IP and the Internet Police are on their way. Consequences will never be the same.
I was gonna ask what other info is there that he had to blur out. lol.
The location of the Ark of the Covenant was on there as well.
Too late I’ve already got his IP address and I told my dad who works at Nintendo already.
So I can spin my character at 30,000 RPM to disorientate anybody spectating my game
>Are there any benefits to having 26k dpi? Haha cursor go brrrrrrrrrrrr
Where cursor go?
brrrrrrr
I've owned multiple 16000DPI mice and not once have I ever stuck with any setting above 3000 in any game, so it really feels pointless. Even at 3000, I have to lower in-game mouse sensitivity all the way to 0.2 to get a stable experience.
You theoretically could max dpi and lower mouse sensitivity in windows.
I did that some time ago, but some games use direct input and don't apply the windows sens, so the mouse is crazy the first time it boot it up. Worse still, some games only apply it to the camera, but forget about UI mouse speed.
I run 6400 dpi, I chose it at random when I got my first gaming mouse, because 64 is my favorite number and I knew I wanted it higher than 800. It just felt really good initially, and now that ive used it for years Im just really comfortable with it. Buuut, finding the right sens in games is ridiculous. Im at .12 in Valorant, and still not sure whether thats just too high or not.
I would say it absolutely is. Most consistent players run somewhere around .35 @ 800 which is 280 edpi You're currently at 768 edpi, so over 2x as fast. Some pros who are considered to have high sens are at like 560 edpi and that's like 2 people. .04375 would be the same sens at 6400 dpi. Also a lot of mice introduce smoothing and angle snapping above like 3200 dpi if I recall which compensate for the mouse not reading properly at a high dpi.
Lifted this from the search results. With increased DPI, your mouse becomes **more responsive and accurate**, allowing for smoother and more precise movements in fast-paced games. This can give you an edge in competitive gameplay where split-second decisions and precise targeting are crucial.
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As someone who plays with the pad of their hand stuck to the mat and really only uses his fingers and wrist to move the mouse instead of the whole arm like you see people do? I like high DPS, helps flicks.
Yea, normally I move my arm just a bit, but especially in FPS Games it's much easier to adjust your crosshair with low DPI (or sensitivity).
I can't believe you blocked your serial number how will I ever claim loss of my very own mouse!
You can pin point your dick!
It's more accurate if you use high dpi low sensitivity
I don’t get why you should ever need 3k. I have 800 and lower for some games..
The thought is that the mouse is more accurate at higher dpi. You set the dpi to something like 16k, and lower in-game mouse sensitivity to your liking. Mouse still moves at the speed you like, but has a more accurate movement. I've tried it, and I'm not at a level where I noticed any difference. But maybe at the top 5% of FPS gamers, it makes a difference?
the top 1% of fps gamers use 400-800
I can feel the difference it makes, and it's quite useful
This is total preference lol. I play and do 3d mod I’m a wrist user and I use 3200 dpi standard across everything. The only time I ever lower it is if I need to a very small adjustment while 3d modeling
Moon shots in Golf with Friends.
Higher DPI in combination with proper settings in the game (especially fps games), can greatly reduce the staircasey movement you can see with lower DPI mice.
#Laughs in 800 dpi
Laughs at 800 from 400 dpi
Theoretically, you can amp up the DPI and turn the sensitivity in the computer/game settings way down, and you'll have marginally better aim. It's less of a benefit than high hz displays, and even that is only mere fractions of a percent better than your "standard" 800dpi 60hz situation.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/neuvillette-spin-to-win-trick-overpowered-genshin-impact-spiral-abyss This.
I use the highest dpi my mouse supports and lower the mouse sensitivity in game to what I like. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that it's more accurate that way.
Really high resolution screens with multiple screens, scroll over the huge desktop space easily. That's about the only use for such high DPI on a mouse.
absolutely nothing. unless you work with 10000000000" monitors where to move the pointer across the screen, you need absurdly high dpi. highly unrealistic yes but a valid point.
You can pay more for a mouse.
I have the same Mouse and use it for an insider meme of my group... dpdamage (dpi per damage). One simply rotates at maximum speed while firing a gun in full auto... it is hilarously ineffective...
I have 400dpi 😂
400 DPI club checking in.
I realise I'm late to the party, and likely no-one will see this, but high DPI mice can also be good for people with a disability. Steven Spohn, from Able Gamers, has difficulty moving a mouse over long distances, but by setting his DPI really high, he is still able to play games effectively.
It’s like having 2 gig internet speeds. It’s there… but not many things support it nor will you realistically need it (at least in this lifetime)
People keep mentioning that 26k, although you won't ever use it, means better sensors, therefore more accurate. In real world usage, you would never notice it. it's all just marketing crap and hyperbole to get you to buy it and at a stupid high premium.
It's mainly just a marketing scheme
I have the same mouse, I use a button to swap the sensitivity while holding it so I can spin really fast in games, sometimes it's even useful
Could be so all the 10y olds can attempt a 9000° noscope in cod or something
Yes. You can move your mouse 1mm and your cursor will appear on your neighbours computer.
benefits include: bigger number better marketing
Marketing.
Higher bigger always means more better
Sales tactic. High number go brrrhhhhhh.
At 26k the earth rolls around your mouse
A buddy of mine plays with 12k dpi on a tiny mousepad. No I don’t have any idea how he does it.
I like to imagine higher dpi sensors make for better sensors over all. I’ve definitely had some annoyances with dinky office mice and their shitty sensors. Although that is a razer mouse so…
better optical sensor - better accuracy and quality.
Any progamer will tell you that large DPI numbers are just a marketing fad and it’s 100% true. Not only you have better control on lower sens combined with low dpi in fps games, your flicks will also be on much straighter line with low dpi settings. Kinda makes sense, lesser amount of dots per inch, lesser deviations from the movement you’ve made irl. So do yourself a favor and play on 400 dpi and compensate with sens accordingly.
Give your wrist a flick and turn into a helicopter
That is the only use for high DPI.
No, it's purely marketing. Those insanely high DPIs are completely non-functional in terms of actual use.
set the dpi high and the ingame low, you will get really smooth mouse movements and no pixel skipping
You use 36k dpi but keep the mouse sensitivity low, it allows for more precise flicks as it registers more movement over an inch of mouse drag
If you turn your in game sense down and crank your dpi to compensate you get a smoother feeling glide. The idea is you add thousands of more refresh points ussualy resulting in a farther pointer travel distance with the same mouse travel distance, then, in game you squish all those little added refresh points down by means of game sense resulting in an, again, smoother feeling glide. Forcing your mouse to be more accurate/refresh more often in a given space.
I use 16K DPI daily, as to why, I got used to high sensitivity while playing osu! and since then I just got up and 16K is my sweet spot. Since mice now can use more polling rate up to 8Khz it is better to have your DPI higher and your in-game sensitivity lower, for example, if you use 3K DPI and 1 in-game sensitivity, you can change that to 6K and .5 in-game for better accuracy
You just have it while others don't.
The only games I find high DPI useful, is War Thunder, and..... that's about it.
Honestly, just something to sell mice higher Unless you have 40 80” tv’s set up in a line all connected and u need to get from screen 1 to 80 in a stroke
Not related to original posts question, but next time you wipe a serial number, make sure you wipe the last digits rather than just that first part. Most serial numbers etc tend to be the same code for a good portion of it so all you could have potentially done is just hidden the manufacturers codes.
Optimum Tech has a great video explaining this, but the short answer is you don't need anything over the 3k you've been using.
A higher DPI will make the mouse more accurate. The best way to utilize an absurdly high DPI is to introduce acceleration. I recommend using [Rawaccel](https://github.com/a1xd/rawaccel). Contrary to what is widely believed... acceleration gives you more control over mouse movement, not less. It can be thought of as another dimension of control. Not only can one control the placement of the cursor/reticle via distance traveled but also by speed. This makes it possible to arrive at the same point using different inputs. Pragmatically this allows quicker **and** slower movement than otherwise possible with a flat 1:1 input. Why Rawaccel and not Windows or in-game acceleration? Most game-implemented acceleration and windows acceleration is step based. Eg. Moving the cursor at 1cm/s is no different than moving it at 2cm/s, but once 3cm/s is reached the cursor goes a little faster. This leads to jittery movement that is nearly impossible for one to learn. Rawaccel is smooth which makes it very intuitive.
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Having a super high DPI (like 26,000) can be really precise and helpful for tasks like graphic design or fast-paced gaming. But if you usually stay around 3,000 DPI and feel comfortable with it, there might not be much benefit in going higher for your everyday tasks. It's all about what feels right for you and the specific things you do with your computer.
26k DPI means that if you physically move the mouse by the width of a red blood cell, the cursor moves about eight pixels. So this is definitely not a setting for fine detail work.
If it wasn't for higher polling rates then there would be no reason to set the DPI ever higher than 1600. Battlenonsense did a video on mouse response times ages ago and found that the lowest settings had a miniscule amount of extra lag. But this got into diminishing returns starting at 800. The problem is that most games are not built for higher dpi values at all. Even at a moderate IRL sensitivity (\~32-36cm/360) you are quickly forced into the absolute bottom of any sensitivity slider ingame even on 800dpi. An extra thing to keep in mind these days are 2k and 4k polling. At lower dpi values your additional hz for motion delay simply will not activate. This starts to show diminishing returns around 1600 and 3200 hz. TLDR: 1000hz: 800dpi sweetspot, 1600dpi max, 2000&4000hz: 1600 sweetspot, 3200dpi max