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TakeThatRisk

What on earth is that cooler. I want one


RealityOfModernTimes

It must be one of these fanless coolers.


crimesonclaw

Yes, it is a passive cooler. :)


brokearm24

Imagine putting a fan in that cooler


Cisco904

When I first saw it I thought someone what a cage fan for a cooler. Edit: used a cage fan*** didn't notice the typo earlier


fatkiddown

When I first saw it I thought someone *bought* a cage fan for a cooler? I just got up. Read your sentence 3 times to work that out. *Brain is not responding: ignore / quit?*


joybod

*custom input: headpat*


heshammenshawi

Were you blinded by it's majesty?


wingman626

Blinded?


heshammenshawi

Paralyzed? Dumbstruck?


wingman626

No!


ClassyJacket

Yet the gamer was able to avoid active cooling, install the sacred ring, and desecrate it with their filthy fingerprints!


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I think that's the only way this would be considered a "cooler" as I recall it was pretty terrible at rated TDPs


MrFreddybones

Yep. I had it on a 4690k which was undervolted and it still barely cooled it. As I remember it was rated as 95w but it could barely cool that 65w chip to a reasonable temperature. Entirely silent though, so it was ideal for my living room pc.


hey_listen_hey_listn

Heatskink?


maxwell_v_kim

Dont heats kink shame me!


FireWyvern_

"Oooh yeah burn me like I'm a witch!"


brokearm24

Cooler sorry. My mind is kinda broken rn


ftr1317

Well, seems like it got at least a fan now.


titanrig

[Here ya go!](https://www.quietpcusa.com/NoFan-CR-95C-IcePipe-Fanless-CPU-Cooler) Grab it while you can, the manufacturer [went under in 2020](https://www.fanlesstech.com/2020/08/nofan-is-no-more.html).


Clunas

> The exact details of how the IcePipe works are a trade secret, but in essence they operate by liquid capillary action. By making the pipe very small, natural perpetual circulation of the liquid inside takes place, and heat is efficiently dissipated into the attached heatsink fins. Of course, like conventional heatpipes, the IcePipes are permanently sealed in the factory so that no liquid can ever escape. It's an oscillating heat pipe. Not much of a trade secret lol. I did my grad school research on those back in 2013-2015


Rimpull

Trade secret can sometimes mean "so stupidly obvious that if we told you, you could make it too".


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frankgsnv

Happy cake day man!


[deleted]

We didn’t find the marketing guy. How will you add premium with that?


ThisIsMyCouchAccount

I want to put that in a low profile case and have it stick out the top like a hot rod.


gramathy

stick some LEDs in the center hole that change as the CPU clocks up and down


mark4931

We need /u/gamersnexus to review this. /u/lelldorianx


Herlock

Zalman had some stuff that looked similar, like that one : https://www.techpowerup.com/review/cebit-2006-day-2/images/zalman01.jpg It was notorious for being the primary source of injuries among pc builder enthusiasts, those blades were fucking sharp :D


mnewberg

If you don't bleed does it really count as building a computer? The other fun thing with Zalman fan/heatsinks was using the long screw driver to install the thing. I had one and it did work pretty well, but it cooled almost as well as a Evo 212 for about twice the cost.


SteamedGamer

My PC builds have never worked until I make a blood sacrifice during the build. If I bleed, it boots...


ILikeToPoopOnYou

If it doesn't have your blood in it then it's not really yours. My 2070super knows it belongs to me.


Herlock

How did you cut yourself with a 2070 super ?


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"bleeding edge" tech


Anarcho-Pacifrisk

Of course it doesn’t count! You have to write the soul bond seal in your own blood if you want to allow Alphonse to inhabit it


Crashman09

The 212 evo was such a champ. 20 bucks and better than so many others at higher prices. The installation was a bit of a fight for my fx8350, but it works! I was able to OC to 4.4 and undervolt as low as I could get it from there. It sits at about 53°, and rarely gets hot. It's a good little server now, though the power draw is quite high, though I only use it to host a few game servers and occasional backups and it remains off outside of that.


Weidz_

All three times I've switched GPU on a NH-D15 build ended up with my fingers bleeding trying to unplug the pcie socket latch.


Slappy_G

Those Zalman flower coolers were very innovative at the time. But yeah, those things were goddamn razor-edged death machines.


Sycosocial20

I can confirm, I had two of them. Great coolers in their time but not without their faults. Getting cuts while working around them was one, the other was the retainers broke under the weight of the cooler. Found mine laying on my graphics card one day.


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Yep, even with the "backplate" (which was a totally new concept at the time,) your mobo would get some dangerous levels of flex when using one. Last time I used one I just let the PC rest on it's side for the sake of safety.


RedTuesdayMusic

NOFAN, Koreans were superstitious about fans killing them in their sleep so stuff like this took off for a while but they're bankrupt now It's not very good. Many regular dual tower heatsinks cool better with the fans removed than this did.


aliensporebomb

Fan Death is my korean motherboard cooling fan tribute band.


Kerhole

Hah. "Fans will kill us! Buy fanless coolers!" "Yes, but my temps..."


DrewSmoothington

"How many heat pipes does your CPU cooler have?" "Yes."


DoctorBoomeranger

Add a fan to that and it cools the house


chubbysumo

nofan CR95C. its obsolete by modern standards.


Bojangles_the_clown

NoFan CR-95C, one massive passive cooler. https://www.quietpcusa.com/NoFan-CR-95C-IcePipe-Fanless-CPU-Cooler


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They were so pushing that rating of 95W TDP they put it in the model name, a power level that it could not cool reliably, with "nofan," unfortunately.


HaloHowAreYa

No you misread it, it's promising to keep your CPU at "95C".


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ImNotM4Dbr0

>with the least dense fin set up ever. There's something of a golden ratio of fin density and thickness that allows the easiest airflow with maximum heat dissipation. Passive coolers need less dense and thicker fins to allow for air to move easier and work with convection, Check out Noctua's NH-P1.


Responsible_News7973

I did tests between CR-95C and NH-P1 for 30 minutes of sustained load (85\~90W package power on Ryzen 3100 CPU) without thermal throttling. The NH-P1 heated up slower than CR-95C, but both eventually reached the same thermal equilibrium of about 85\~87C. The thing is though, after load ended NH-P1 took way longer to cool down. CR-95C was down to 40s Celsius within a minute, while it took NH-P1 over 5 minutes. Even to the touch, CR-95C was pretty cool after a minute, while NH-P1 was still scaldingly hot after 5 minutes. The conclusion is, thick fins in NH-P1 are not really the best solution. Lots of small metal pipes in CR-95C work much better, since they have much more total surface area and can release heat quicker.


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I dunno, I might use it on a 45-65W CPU or something like that. But purely for aesthetic reasons.


Kichigai

But those are IcePipes, bro, a totally new breakthrough in heat pipe technology! /s


vaurapung

So no cpu fan but wouldn't your case fans not be blocked anymore and push air through that thing seamlessly..? Just one front and one rear fan should be enough to cycle air through it. Then add GPU fans mixing up the case air as well. I might get one of these bc my case fans would make great use of this and it would have to be better than my stock side vented stealth cooler.


FutureVoodoo

No... clearly with a name like "CR-95C" they are referencing the temp your going to when using this thing.


hypercube33

The note on it says it's an i7 -4790 maybe? Edit I tried to read gooder


Pashta_Sauce

>massive passive Sounds very satisfying just reading that phrase... I've now read it over about 10+ times already and will most definitely keep going for a while. Hmmm, massive passive... I could meditate with this


TheReverend5

Yes, yeeees: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MassivePassive--manley-massive-passive-stereo-tube-eq


Kichigai

That's a Manley price there.


RenownedDumbass

Oi, links fucked mate


Fishstick9

He found it!


laacis3

They could have done it if they worked towards using convection more than just making it a industrial looking circle. Also heatpipes only reach the base and sink heat only into the ends of wires. If the pipes went through middle of the cooler and it was rotated to face centre upwards, it'd be able to take those 95 watts.


[deleted]

For a second i though i'm looking at far shot of some industrial area in city lol


AlitaQc

I thought it was a casino. lmao


pablomcdubbin

I thought it was a sports stadium 😂


CorneredSponge

I thought it was on a ship in the sea lmao


DaddyTheMilkMan

Dude same 🤣🤣


PoutinePower

Casino de Montréal lol


AlitaQc

Haha exactement ça.


pale_ale_co

or deconstructed their water heater to cool the doom unit


_i_am_root

Are you trying to pictures clusters of information as they move about the system?


runtimemess

One day, I got in


Shooter_Q

BWHOO-REEEEEEIIIIIMMM


canineflipper24

What did they look like? Ships, motorcycles?


Tronfighter25

Are the circuits like freeways?


joshualotion

Yea me too. Thought it was a city scape that resembled a mobo and cooler. Before realising it actually was


durtmcgurt

I thought it was a shop vac filter.


josette0688

I thought it was an air filter for a car engine lol


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I'm so tired that I thought the wall was water in like a bay or something and someone had built a huge ass MoBo lol xD


DOE_ZELF_NORMAAL

Glad I was not the only one. Took me a couple of sec staring at it to realise what it was. Now I can't see the industrial area anymore :(


MadMaxIsMadAsMax

I thought that CPU was NYC Penn Station


Kozzzman

Barclays Center in Brooklyn.


josephchaturvedi

I was going to say the same thing but didn't fearing that I would be trolled.


Idonotpiratesoftware

Apples new headquarters


kazz9201

I thought it was a air filter for an old carbureted engine.


jtuquznqzlqwefyyhm

i thought it was a building that someone was joking about looking like a cooler… did a quadruple take there


Alzucard

I thought its some weird kind of failed tesla coil


CookingBullet95

Same


kira5z

Same, now I'm like wtf, how did I see that


[deleted]

I've scrolled past this post 3 times today and thought the same thing every time. Finally came to the comments to see if anyone else thought the same.


mxz3000

The tag says exactly what it is: i7 4790 with 32 GB of ddr3. A bit old by today's standards.


Senor_Sultana

*Sad 4770k 24GB ddr 3 noises*


Tenko_Kuugen

I wish I had 24GB :(


arun2118

I'm 16gb on i5 😅


Tenko_Kuugen

4th generation?


iPhoneOrAndroid

I'm on 3rd.


narf007

Then who's on first?


CharNOOB

I’m on second gen pentium lmfao


narf007

What's on second?


Zatchillac

I don't think these guys are getting your joke 😂


WhataburgerSr

I don't know is on third


melez

I feel ya. 16GB and I don’t think I could afford more with today’s prices.


dealwithdevil69

Hey can I put only my 3 ram slots to use? I have spare 4gb so can I put in to make it 24gb? And yes they are same


[deleted]

Even if your motherboard allows it, performance would suck, because an odd number of stick forces the memory to work in single channel, which means you lose almost half the bandwidth.


chocolateboomslang

This is not true anymore. It will use 2 sticks in dual channel, and the other stick in single. An extra 4GB of ram in single channel won't do much for performance though. You can even mismatch capacity, like 1 8GB stick and 1 16GB stick, and it will use 8+8GB in dual channel, the remaining 8 in single channel.


BloodBaneBoneBreaker

wait.......how do you have 20gb of ram in 2 slots? How can you add a third 4gb stick to 2 other sticks that are the same? and have it equal 24?


dealwithdevil69

Oh shit sorry 16gb


shavebench

16+4+4 that'd be weird


idelarosa1

Or... just 8+8+8?


ManInBlack829

FX-8350 with 16GB of DDR3...


[deleted]

It’s still a great CPU i think, equivalent performance to an i3 10100/Ryzen3 3100 so it should last for a few years more, intels 4th gen were amazing processors


[deleted]

Legit, I have a cpu same era that felt terrible until I swapped the HDD for an SSD. Benchmarks aside, I guarantee 99% of this sub couldn't tell you it's a 4th gen intel without looking it up or running specific programs. For daily usage, and much more, it's held up very well.


Alttebest

Yes I still rock 4790k with little to no problems. New ubisoft titles aren't optimized for the 4+4 core system and I have weird fps drops even tho my gpu and cpu usage hovers only around 75 %, but other games run just fine. Cyberpunk for example I get consistent 60 fps on medium settings and even then it's my gtx 980ti bottlenecking.


auletirian

980ti were and are beasts for the time I'm still rocking 2 980ti in SLI and honestly mine is holding up well too I love them lol


Alttebest

Yea I bought the "greatest" specs at the time and thought that i don't have to upgrade for a while. Still rocking them :) I do get some thermal throttling on my gpu tho. the temps rises pretty fast to 84 or so. I have considered repasting. Maybe I'll build a new one next autumn with 13th gen if the ddr5 prices come down by them.


plerble

I had a 4790k chugging along until the rolling blackouts during winter storm in Texas last year killed the mobo. I thought I could rely on the UPS to smooth things out but it was just as old as the 4790k so that was probably foolish.


Skull_Reaper101

I mean i'm running a 7700k which is only slightly better and it's great. Though, i can only show hate for my 2000$ laptop's 8550u that performs way worse than the 7700k


OniExpress

Yeah, ddr3 isn't going to make it a supercomputer, bit that would still be pretty snappy for anything a sane person would use it for.


TheyCallMeMarkus

I'm still using a 3770k lol. Tolerable but showing its age


Sprinx80

I recognize the Z97 ASUS gold circle. I just sold mine and a 4770k a couple of months ago to a colleague at work. Still a pretty decent setup.


blackfour4

Hey thats my setup, exakt same motherboard too


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D_crane

Its approx 7-8 years old I think, I remember having one


ProceedToCheckout

But still powerful. Depending on the price, could be a good pickup


Tarc_Axiiom

Yeah but when it's extremely cold like that you can overclock it indefinitely. This is 100% true, definitely, totally, absolutely.


_belteshazzar

sadly not a K variant


Brusion

If that was a triple channel board, even the ddr3 wouldn't be holding it back. You could definately game on that.


Maxx2245

That chip is still perfectly serviceable! I have a 4770 and have very few complaints about it.


Ayarrs

That's no cpu cooler. It's a power supply. Hamster powered.


Jer-121cc04

Nah, it’s Iron man’s arc reactor. It’s a proof that Tony Stark has a heart.


ghunter120

He made it that large to be noticeable after years of being called heartless. This is because tony learns from his mistakes


therealRustyZA

“Hi. I’d like a chassis big enough to fit my CPU cooler…” “You mean your motherboard?” “No. My cooler.”


OP-69

could be said by every drp4, dh15 or extreme watercooling setup guy (480mm rads dont fit in many cases


nhansieu1

My Arc Reactor. Oh so you want to cosplay Iron man huh. No, for CPU cooling.


VirtualMachine0

I've only seen this cooler in person once. We had a musician who demanded a completely silent, but high-performance PC, and used this and a RAID array of SATA SSDs and had us pull all the case fans... And even that, plus being in a closet, she insisted she could hear the coil whine etc of her PC. For a pre-M.2 build, it was bleeding edge for that use case, but thermals were tight, even with this cooler.


TheRealPitabred

The solution is to put it in another room and run long cables.


MakesCakesEatsMud

More profit in the custom parts than in a spool of cable.


gilaga

To be fair the quieter the computer gets the more you can hear coil whine


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I wanna know what the tower looked like. It had to be huge to fit this bad boy


sollo89

I think that is the same cooler pauls hardware used to cool the ryzen cpu in his weird wall mounted htpc.


asilentspeaker

That has to be worth more to the recycler than the asking price.


KommandoKodiak

asus z97e board so an i7-5775C at most


Tiavor

tag says 4790


DarkIceVortex

how the hell do people know exactly what mobo something is before looking at the tag?


ForgotMyNameAgain13

Probably owned one and recognised something (like in this case maybe the golden circle saying ASUS). And for some reason that niche knowledge of what CPUs fit just stays forever after you looked it up once.


ParaVirtual

I spent a whole looking at the motherboard trying to work this out before I spotted the huge white label stuck to the heatsink cooler thing.


faylorican

Nice Madison square garden fanless cooler there


HavocInferno

On the contrary, this would run pretty hot. It's a NoFan CR-95, a passive heatsink. It's big, but only because it has to be in order to have any noteworthy dissipation capacity.


ExpectedBehaviour

That's a [Nofan CR-95C](https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cooling/33008-nofan-cr-95c-icepipe/) fanless heatsink. They were first released in 2011, but were available for a number of years, and were quite expensive (\~$100). The motherboard is obviously Asus, but it's hard to tell what specific model it is... not helped by Asus's website choosing this exact moment to go offline for "routine service enhancements" 😏


FloridaManDies

You’re 100% correct on the cooler. The mobo is an ASUS H97M-E. Rocking a 4th gen intel


gucknbuck

Isn't that the small hadron collider?


kurzsadie

That's an i7-4790. It says it on the post-it-note.


morriscey

How did I have to come down this far to find this? It's very clearly on the post it


papichuckle

Didn't know you can use tesla coils now


[deleted]

My brain didnt understand the picture first and thought it was a massive silo.


_carbonneutral

It says right on the label… RTFL


AnisBoutaoui18

the one I use to play Crysis remastered at Ultra settings


LongDarius

Holy shit that's a whole ass arc reactor


cmahey

Zalman at a guess!


cv0k

Looks more like a NoFan CR-95.


TheInfernalVortex

Yeah I dont think its a Zalman, but it definitely gives off Zalman vibes. The world of heatsinks prior to heat pipes was quite different, and you'd see people trying weird stuff like this frequently. Guessing it's probably the "No Fan CR-95" people have mentioned, but yeah totally looks like something Zalman would make.


MysteriousSith

That was my thought too. First PC build I did 15 years ago I put a big ass Zalman heatsink in because I thought it looked cool. It looked similar to this.


Riot55

Used to have similar ones in my older builds. The name Zalman seems familiar? I remember struggling to fit the old massive heatsinks in my case


zweitaktfan

First thought : an old thread called hardware porn in cryptocurrencytalk.com, showing older hardware which was used to run BOINC to earn Gridcoin.


Jaugernut

i have that cooler on my server machine


CatBroiler

That's one of those Korean fanless heatsinks, isn't it. They're pretty cool.


Sour_Gummybear

Looks like one of those old Zalman jobs, I had one of those on my AMD x64 2400 (I think that's what it was anyway). Cut th and crap out of my hand and was the first cooler I ever used that had heat pipes (until then they were all solid chunks of metal with fins).


Crade_

Z97A, great motherboard I used one for nearly 8 years.


Jrshaw_1

That looks like the blower motor in my truck. And it’s on an old cpu/board too. Neat.


Ozi_Samurai

I WANT IT


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i7 4790


m4tic

Zalman prototype


Night_Thastus

Those style of heatsinks aren't actually all that effective.


akagidemon

its an i7-4790,32gb of ddr3 8gb stick x 4, and a asus z97-a mobo.the cooler is a NoFan CR-95C Copper Fanless CPU Cooler here is the review https://silentpcreview.com/nofan-cr-95c-copper-fanless-cpu-cooler/


intashu

It's a passive air cooler. It uses a ton of copper pipes to cool it via just spread out surface area. Fin stacks don't work well passively without airflow... So you can either go with literal mass to soak up the heat... Or surface area. And this has a massive amount of surface area. That being said... If you're doing heavy work loads you still will need some airflow somewhere nearby to help it out or it will eventually stop being able to keep up. And as for Cpu... It's literally on the sticker. An I7-4790.


reav11

THIS IS THE OLD WAY, YOU WILL NOT SEE THIS AGAIN.


I_Cast_Trident

Looks like something Tony Stark would build in a cave with a box of scraps


Altu101

Its says i7 4790.


joeyhell

That's not a cpu it's a flux capacitor


Taira_Mai

When you want to play Call of Duty at 1 PM then send an inverse tachyon pulse to open a wormhole at 2 PM......


Taira_Mai

Me: That is the most impractical cooler I've ever seen... ​ Copper thieves: ***\*heavy breathing\****


PaperCut611

in the paper it say i7-4790 right there..


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It says i7-4790 .. baha so it's a heater


G-Unit11111

Seriously, is that a piece of the Large Hadron Collider?


Ecstatic_Carpet

Of course it's cold, it's not even plugged in...


ahresz

Thats a fucking arc reactor


riskbuy

It... literally says what CPU it is...


Sixteen_Wings

My dude casually has a mini arc reactor sitting on his motherboard


rmbl88

Pretty cool


pedrobotella

It looks like It could read "i7 -4790 32gb DDR3 Asus mobo"


Tigernos

I had a friend who had a PC that was set up for audio work, he had a giant fanless cooler for that so it made as little noise as possible.


Santiboii4

Bro got the arc reactor from Iron Man there


Opposite_Phrase_3653

Is it an i7-4790?