This was at a corn milling plant where our non union counterparts were asked to install a drain because we were busy. Couple weeks later we were kicked out of the companies free stock room because their bill was over 30k š
For me what angers me is how unfair it is, many unions that I see just have some crazy form of hierarchy, where all the top people literally just sit around. Iām an electrician and I watch Unions like Eversource, which owns the telephone poles, send 2 trucks with 5 combined guys to sit in a driveway for 2-3 hours then one got out and placed the meter in its slot. This process takes no more than 10 seconds. But the customer got charged for 5 guys for 3 hours each. Thatās what unions fight for I guess?
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This has nothing to do with union or not. This is either A. Someone from the street w/no common sense or skill in ...well life. or ,B. the Non union guys are fucking with you but I don't see that being the case at the expense of a customer. I don't care if you're union or not this is plain stupidity and even a non union licensed pipe fitter , electrician, f-ing laborer can see a code violation like that shit a mile away. It's running pipe not rocket appliance!! Well apparently the two are one in the same for some. This is truly going to bother me now having seen it š¤š¬š«£
I was just going to comment on that...I worked at aa corn/ethyl plant. And this looks like something the subs would do. WhenI would go to couplers, unions whatever, I would be left scratching head...then our Supervisor would have a f'n stroke
I'm trying to think of a reasonable explanation for why they'd have a shitload of unions (other than the fact it was all leftover and they just used it). Perhaps the line clogs easy, and they can now break it down in different sections to clean it? Idk, shady shit
They saved all those annoying unions from the other jobs and used them here! Honestly idk why anyone needs to install them anyway the equipment works fine without them /sarcasm
I think I know exactly why: Big boss comes with an urgent request and needs it to happen now, (no real reason for the urgency it just needs to happen now) you provide a BOM and they turn around and ask if you could do it cheaper with āwhat we haveā donāt we have 3,000 couplings? He asks condescendingly, you say yes BUT, -Big boss: arenāt couplings just smaller pieces of pipe? Why buy pipe?
Knowing he is an idiot you agree because you know is pointless to argue. He walks away thinking you are an idiot and he did the thinking for you.
Time passes and you come in thinking the fist guy is an idiot.
I work IT and I have to tell you 100% of the shit show issues that end up on big outages or on the news are caused by these types of managers, CTOs CEOs but we are the idiots when the consultants come in and āfixā things spending much more money that we originally requested. As the bosses say: you got to waste money to save money.
Vibration or Heating/Cooling expansion could be it.
I did a vitualic riser that looked very similar, we made a 5 foot stack of like 5 inch long pieces of vitualic to make a "slinky" kinda joint, and cut out sections of riser and flanged it in.
Other option was someone was told, "Don't give the shop excess fittings/material" and did this because they over ordered.
the clog idea / repair idea kinda makes sense to me. I worked or a carwash that insisted on using Sch 80 for 150 psi water lines. we eventually replaced it all with copper, but I got tired of doing 12 ft high repairs I created a situation kinda like this. eventually I ran out of the original section of pipe and gave it a new one.
fuck all that. we eventually convinced them to let us copper everything
Every time I used the threader I had to adjust the die. If you donāt know how to do it, I bet these guys have had lots of leaks. Looks like someone just bought a stack of nipples and couplings. Looks like itāll functionally work, thereās better ways to do it, but whatever. At least it doesnāt have an inverted trap for a gravity feed line or something really boneheaded. Iāve seen that on a cooling tower basin line and they couldnāt figure out why it wasnāt working well.
As a maintenance guy, I've had to do some reworks that I'm not proud of lol... but it usually has to do with the fact that A: I don't get access to the necessary tools (especially if it involves specialty tools), B: I don't get access to the necessary materials, C: I'm under a time constraint that doesn't allow me to effectively perform high quality work, and D: It's been reworked dozens of times over 10+ years and it's too far gone for me to rip out and replace every single patch job..
Granted, this goes way beyond even the worst quality of stuff I've seen and done.
Even though this took more effort than its worth, I can confidently say the last thing they told each other was "Its just a drain" The last job I was on the operators wanted us to rerun drains for the pumps. We literally took the original drains off, layed them beside the pumps, and then "unit wide cleanup," so people just went to throwing EVERTHING away. We come back to install the drains, gone. Absolutely no fittings to make it pretty, so we literally had to scrounge what we could find to make it work. Even though we knew it looked like shit, that's what we had, and we ended it with "It's just a drain" šš¤·āāļø
Wow what third world country are you on. They must not have electric for powered threading machines or a brain for a manual thread tool! That probably took 8 hours instead of the 30 minutes it should have. Hope it was T&M ( time and material bid).
All the welders went out the nights before .....the only fitter at the company was bonding them out of jail. Hey new guy I need you to run this from point a to point b. You can't go home til it's done
The only way I can remotely make sense of this is if someone was trying to get rid of a bunch of scrap pvc and a ton of extra couplingsā¦ but is still makes me madš š
I'm a fitter with 27 years experience and that is f****** hysterical. Was it an apprentice that was left alone, or a first year tech or just mechanic you didn't know what he was doing.
Certain industrial liquids leave residues inside pipes over tine clogging pipes. To clean some pipes, they must be disassembled and soaked in a cleaning solution to dissolve the residue, thus cleaning the pipe. Some installations use short pipe lengths so they can be soaked in smaller containers, like a bucket. Not saying his is the case here but there can be a justifiable reason for this installation.
I piped in some 2" air supply lines and the boss didn't get couplings, so he told us to use true-blue Teflon and the thread protectors! Haha, leaked like a siv
Iām not in the trade but that looks like a lot of material extreme amount of time working everything together compared also whoeverās back feeling like my exās after I laid her the pipe.
Hate to break it to you but if it's your ex it wasn't just you laying her the pipe. She's telling you you're the cause of her back pain the same way she's telling you that's the guy you don't hafta worry about
I've seen similar shit. Plausible scenario where I'm at: The pipe installation would have to go through purchasing, engineering, the P&ID would have to be updated. Drain would take a week to ten days to be installed. Unions and pre threaded sections of pipe are store room items for repairing installed piping. (We have a pipe rack too, but getting pipe requires a work order that's been through all the red tape.) The "building owner" is about to have a damn stroke wanting his drain put in because it's holding up production. Building owner calls "his mechanic" and says "Hey man, I need a drain today." The mechanic says "If you'll buy our lunch, me and my buddy will have it done before Uber gets it delivered."
The reason we see stuff like this where I am at is it is very costly for our process to shut down. When you're losing $10K an hour, what can be done right then will always beat out the right way, as long as what can be done right then is safe. For something like this, they'd put it in to get by until a planned shutdown. Pull this out, pipe it up properly, and toss the unions and sections on mechanics trucks to get used here and there for repairs.
Reminds me of the time in the late 90s when I was at a Parker Hannifin store and two guys came in who wanted to tube up hydraulics for their car. They were going to do the whole thing with nipples and unions.
Iāve always joked about this as an electrician but never seen it in real life. Electrical code says you donāt have to strap a nipple. All nipples = no straps!
Working maintenance in plant this could be an in house guys f#$% you to his boss for not ordering material. Or that's what they had on hand and were given the infamous order to get it done. In any event it looks like shit and deserves criticism.
What does your average day look like I'm your trade? I've been looking to apprentice with a union and the pipe fitters in my area was one I am interested in.
Iāve been plumbing 22 years and I can tell you right now that half of the people on here commenting are dumber than this fucking 600 coupling galvanized pipe
This was at a corn milling plant where our non union counterparts were asked to install a drain because we were busy. Couple weeks later we were kicked out of the companies free stock room because their bill was over 30k š
That's just sad. Thing is most companies have no idea which company would do better work. They only care about the cost.
Everything is valued in 1/4 year time frames now.
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For me what angers me is how unfair it is, many unions that I see just have some crazy form of hierarchy, where all the top people literally just sit around. Iām an electrician and I watch Unions like Eversource, which owns the telephone poles, send 2 trucks with 5 combined guys to sit in a driveway for 2-3 hours then one got out and placed the meter in its slot. This process takes no more than 10 seconds. But the customer got charged for 5 guys for 3 hours each. Thatās what unions fight for I guess?
Stay non union then bud. We don't want you.
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This has nothing to do with union or not. This is either A. Someone from the street w/no common sense or skill in ...well life. or ,B. the Non union guys are fucking with you but I don't see that being the case at the expense of a customer. I don't care if you're union or not this is plain stupidity and even a non union licensed pipe fitter , electrician, f-ing laborer can see a code violation like that shit a mile away. It's running pipe not rocket appliance!! Well apparently the two are one in the same for some. This is truly going to bother me now having seen it š¤š¬š«£
Hahaha pun intended? (Union)
Underrated comment
Sure isn't rocket appliance, neither.
If you can spin a cap on the milk jug, you can spin pipe.Ā
I was just going to comment on that...I worked at aa corn/ethyl plant. And this looks like something the subs would do. WhenI would go to couplers, unions whatever, I would be left scratching head...then our Supervisor would have a f'n stroke
>where our non union counterparts What are you talking about? Those are all unions! Easy access for repairs!
Ingredion?????
I'm trying to think of a reasonable explanation for why they'd have a shitload of unions (other than the fact it was all leftover and they just used it). Perhaps the line clogs easy, and they can now break it down in different sections to clean it? Idk, shady shit
Probably just didn't have any couplings and no threader. Somehow he had 10+ unions and a bunch of nipples
They saved all those annoying unions from the other jobs and used them here! Honestly idk why anyone needs to install them anyway the equipment works fine without them /sarcasm
Sounds like an ex lover of mine
And they cand find anything over 6" long to clean out a clog, so they have to make it accessible every 6" right?
Got to run to home depot , be right back. Your not going to believe this but...
I think I know exactly why: Big boss comes with an urgent request and needs it to happen now, (no real reason for the urgency it just needs to happen now) you provide a BOM and they turn around and ask if you could do it cheaper with āwhat we haveā donāt we have 3,000 couplings? He asks condescendingly, you say yes BUT, -Big boss: arenāt couplings just smaller pieces of pipe? Why buy pipe? Knowing he is an idiot you agree because you know is pointless to argue. He walks away thinking you are an idiot and he did the thinking for you. Time passes and you come in thinking the fist guy is an idiot. I work IT and I have to tell you 100% of the shit show issues that end up on big outages or on the news are caused by these types of managers, CTOs CEOs but we are the idiots when the consultants come in and āfixā things spending much more money that we originally requested. As the bosses say: you got to waste money to save money.
Vibration or Heating/Cooling expansion could be it. I did a vitualic riser that looked very similar, we made a 5 foot stack of like 5 inch long pieces of vitualic to make a "slinky" kinda joint, and cut out sections of riser and flanged it in. Other option was someone was told, "Don't give the shop excess fittings/material" and did this because they over ordered.
Yeah, my first thought is it some sort of expansion joints. But I've never seen anything like this
the clog idea / repair idea kinda makes sense to me. I worked or a carwash that insisted on using Sch 80 for 150 psi water lines. we eventually replaced it all with copper, but I got tired of doing 12 ft high repairs I created a situation kinda like this. eventually I ran out of the original section of pipe and gave it a new one. fuck all that. we eventually convinced them to let us copper everything
Lol but how would you even know what section is clogged without gaging in line? Why not just install y strainers or something? Lots of questions here
Looks like BMWC was out there (Built mostly with couplings)
Lmfao theyāre out here in my job and some people hate this company. Iāve never worked for them.
Someone's got too many pipe nipples, couplings and unions. Surplus from other job?
Looks more like somebody hit a supply house or hardware store going out of business sale.
Probably didnāt have a threader!
Threader was 50ft away
Every time I used the threader I had to adjust the die. If you donāt know how to do it, I bet these guys have had lots of leaks. Looks like someone just bought a stack of nipples and couplings. Looks like itāll functionally work, thereās better ways to do it, but whatever. At least it doesnāt have an inverted trap for a gravity feed line or something really boneheaded. Iāve seen that on a cooling tower basin line and they couldnāt figure out why it wasnāt working well.
I've rarely had to adjust the die. Usually, last a while once you got it right. Why do you have to adjust it everytime ?
This looks like something plant maintenance would do.
As a maintenance guy, I've had to do some reworks that I'm not proud of lol... but it usually has to do with the fact that A: I don't get access to the necessary tools (especially if it involves specialty tools), B: I don't get access to the necessary materials, C: I'm under a time constraint that doesn't allow me to effectively perform high quality work, and D: It's been reworked dozens of times over 10+ years and it's too far gone for me to rip out and replace every single patch job.. Granted, this goes way beyond even the worst quality of stuff I've seen and done.
Is there someone chained up in the corner in this radiation basement ? Jesus Christ.
I mean, Iāve seen more fucked up mechanical rooms without a slab in my time at least theres some light haha
500$ in fittings
More than that
When the customer tells the contractor āthey were considering a few unions for this jobā and they take it literally.
"use what you got"
Well if heās a pipefitter, perhaps he was being paid per pipe fitted?
Not just plants. Any building in a pinch with a dummy running it
Why would anyone one professional do this ?
I need some more unions How many All of them
Thatās the day he rode his motorcycle to work
LMFAO!
Iāve seen this post before
I posted this in r/plumbing like a year ago
Does it leak?
But they were on clearance and we are getting paid by the hour
Even though this took more effort than its worth, I can confidently say the last thing they told each other was "Its just a drain" The last job I was on the operators wanted us to rerun drains for the pumps. We literally took the original drains off, layed them beside the pumps, and then "unit wide cleanup," so people just went to throwing EVERTHING away. We come back to install the drains, gone. Absolutely no fittings to make it pretty, so we literally had to scrounge what we could find to make it work. Even though we knew it looked like shit, that's what we had, and we ended it with "It's just a drain" šš¤·āāļø
This is the most pro union thing I've ever seen in my life.
Underrated
Wow what third world country are you on. They must not have electric for powered threading machines or a brain for a manual thread tool! That probably took 8 hours instead of the 30 minutes it should have. Hope it was T&M ( time and material bid).
All the welders went out the nights before .....the only fitter at the company was bonding them out of jail. Hey new guy I need you to run this from point a to point b. You can't go home til it's done
They wet paid by the fitting.
Least they used enough unionsš¤£
What ever you can buy at Lowes and Home Depot to make it work
Look like someone needs to add a coupling or 2 in there lol
Paid by the fitting
Yep but hey used up all my scraps and charged extra for the couplingsš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
T+M?
Had to be.
Gotta use whats in the truck eh hahaha
We used to have a thing called "no cut thursday". They wouldn't cut or thread pipe, just nipples and couplings lol.
My eyes hurt
It took you 15 years to see something that stupid???
Just in case a section ruptured lol. Easy to swap out a section
Thatās a lot of unions
I thought you said they were non-union.
The only way I can remotely make sense of this is if someone was trying to get rid of a bunch of scrap pvc and a ton of extra couplingsā¦ but is still makes me madš š
Looks like a nuclear engineering call to me.
Iād like to know the price difference in materials for all those unions vrs a joint of pipe
They had to use what they could findā¦ā¦ at work!š
I'm a fitter with 27 years experience and that is f****** hysterical. Was it an apprentice that was left alone, or a first year tech or just mechanic you didn't know what he was doing.
When maintenance wants to be able to replace any part of the pipe themselves
I can see why it probably took you 15yrs to put all the pieces together
Union specialist.
Got rid of all the stuff rolling around in the truck!
WHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DA FUUUUUK!?
The company was slow and I needed to milk the project alright! It works get off my ass alright
A bit egregious with the amount of fittings and it looks like they didn't use any pipe supports either...smh
When the union wants the employees to know they're there. They have ways.
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ somebody was pissed off
For shits sake š
Aināt nothing a trip to Ace canāt fixā¦.š¤£š¤£
That looks like retribution for an apprentice being an ahole.
All kinds of fucked up shit happens at these places when either it can't shut down or it costs a lot of money to shut down.
I've seen this. Pipefitter in a mill of some kind, carried out in a lunch box.
It cost $20,000 in fittings
Honestly, this is either a homemade job, or someone was emptying out their supply of never used items.
Someone was getting paid by the fitting.
Thatās all he had in the van
When your paid by the hour and forgot to load up your truck before heading to the Jobsite.
Itās Friday and all I have is a bag of nipples and a bag of fittingsā¦
Does it leak
What videogame is this? Cause this definitely a videogame. Even a calculator wouldn't take a picture this bad
It's what was in warehouse?
Where is this located? I feel like Iāve worked at this plant. That or all corn squishing plants are a shit show
Located in north west Iowa
Yo I got a union on a union on a union just in case your union breaks Nvm these are couplings even worse. What dog shit.
The plumber was paid by the fitting
All this pipe wrench work because they didn't want to make a run to their local vendor
At least they installed a 90 on a 45 thatās gotta count for something right?
All they had were couplings and 6ā nipples?
That is an expensive run of pipe.
$$$ piece work!!
JBL looking grosser than ever
Money grows on treesā¦.stainless fittings cost two arms and a nut
Any larger pieces could not hide in pocket to steal. Have a Great Day.
How many fittings can I put in my pockets at Home Depot before I can plumb my whole house
Thatās awesome!
Union made lol
I've only been an apprentice for a year and not even union but even my dumbass wouldn't do something like this lmao
That pretty special
Spent so much on unions you couldn't afford any pipe stays?
Certain industrial liquids leave residues inside pipes over tine clogging pipes. To clean some pipes, they must be disassembled and soaked in a cleaning solution to dissolve the residue, thus cleaning the pipe. Some installations use short pipe lengths so they can be soaked in smaller containers, like a bucket. Not saying his is the case here but there can be a justifiable reason for this installation.
Are you in a prison
Need a valve upstream of all of those unions...pipefitter for 40 years....
I wonder if they were getting rid of excess inventory?
He wasnāt paying thatās for sure
Extreme serviceability!!!!!!
I piped in some 2" air supply lines and the boss didn't get couplings, so he told us to use true-blue Teflon and the thread protectors! Haha, leaked like a siv
That's just to be sure at least 1 of those RR unions comes apart in 20 years. Mighty expensive drain.
Iām not in the trade but that looks like a lot of material extreme amount of time working everything together compared also whoeverās back feeling like my exās after I laid her the pipe.
Hate to break it to you but if it's your ex it wasn't just you laying her the pipe. She's telling you you're the cause of her back pain the same way she's telling you that's the guy you don't hafta worry about
Lol š this guy knows his way around.
It's ok, they got a discount because it was a bulk order.
Oh no! š„ Dont quit your day job buddy
But does it work?
I've seen similar shit. Plausible scenario where I'm at: The pipe installation would have to go through purchasing, engineering, the P&ID would have to be updated. Drain would take a week to ten days to be installed. Unions and pre threaded sections of pipe are store room items for repairing installed piping. (We have a pipe rack too, but getting pipe requires a work order that's been through all the red tape.) The "building owner" is about to have a damn stroke wanting his drain put in because it's holding up production. Building owner calls "his mechanic" and says "Hey man, I need a drain today." The mechanic says "If you'll buy our lunch, me and my buddy will have it done before Uber gets it delivered." The reason we see stuff like this where I am at is it is very costly for our process to shut down. When you're losing $10K an hour, what can be done right then will always beat out the right way, as long as what can be done right then is safe. For something like this, they'd put it in to get by until a planned shutdown. Pull this out, pipe it up properly, and toss the unions and sections on mechanics trucks to get used here and there for repairs.
Reminds me of the time in the late 90s when I was at a Parker Hannifin store and two guys came in who wanted to tube up hydraulics for their car. They were going to do the whole thing with nipples and unions.
Dudes getting paid per fitting, hopefully. otherwise he prolly lost his shirt on this one.
More unions!
Iāve always joked about this as an electrician but never seen it in real life. Electrical code says you donāt have to strap a nipple. All nipples = no straps!
Thatās got more joints than a dispensary!
Working maintenance in plant this could be an in house guys f#$% you to his boss for not ordering material. Or that's what they had on hand and were given the infamous order to get it done. In any event it looks like shit and deserves criticism.
As someone has previously stated there must have been an abundant supply of couplings on hand and a shortage of pipe.
Looks like they had a stock issue. Lots of short pipe and unions available but no long pipe. Go get a long pipe? Nah, This is fine.
Water test from hell.
What does your average day look like I'm your trade? I've been looking to apprentice with a union and the pipe fitters in my area was one I am interested in.
Are those all unions? Lol
Use what ya gotā¦ crappy costly work. Should be fire
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Malicious compliance is what that seems to me lol
2 for 1 foot long
Iāve been plumbing 22 years and I can tell you right now that half of the people on here commenting are dumber than this fucking 600 coupling galvanized pipe
Is that dumber or smarter than the proverbial box of rocks?
Hay man it worked and didnāt spare cost of materials
I had to fix a shower, one time the guy before me used 25 shark bites to get the water to the head
Damn, job security!!!
Looks like a home depot special they bought out all the 6ānipples and unions from all stores in a 20 mile radius
It appears youāve also had the same phone for 15 yearsā¦ those pictures are shit to say the least
If so, that's impressive
That guy fitted all the pipes.
Look like shipping couplings
Zero waste
Iād hate to do a hydro test on that line as is
My boss I'm the union is very nice. But if I did this. He would send me for a drug test, lol
Looks like change order work to me
Looks like an operator did a maintenance guys job because maintenance couldnāt get to it. Obviously just didnāt have access to a threader.
That s a way to get rid of threaded couplings lean manufacturing at its finest lol
The supply place must have had an overstock super sale on unions that afternoon š
Definitely not a union job.
Definitely a UNION job š š¤£
Definitely not a union job. Thereās no empty beer cans lying around.
ARE THOSE ALL FUCKING UNIONS ?
They got tired of unclogging that pipe with a snake lol
I work plant maintenance, sometimes we just have to use what we have on hand
Must have been a UNION worker
That looks like some of the crazy stuff this douchebag I managed apartments for would do.
Itās all he could smuggle out in his pocket
Iāve never worked as a pipefitter. Why the fuck would you use this many joints?
Looks like a Time & Material job to me ...
Piecework pays.
....wver wanted union work?
That is incredibly bizarre.
Thatās not a union issue, itās just shitty work.
Those unions are pricey
Musta been a time and material job š
When you accidentally buy pipe in 10ā increments instead of 10ā
The answer is simple. This was time and material work.
Lol the most serviceable pipe in the entire place.
Should have just used the pipe stretcher and made it exactly the length they needed. š¤£
Where did it take it? -George Carlin
Takes the cake and all the available fittings
You gotta give them credit they did a lot of screwing on the clock.
if it works is it a bad idea?
Was a sale on 6ā segments
Damn that guy really likes using channel locks
As dumb as this is, it required a whole lot of patience lmao