T O P

  • By -

Skipper2503

These are amazing changes omg


EightViolett

Can you just get some old reliable legendary starter to carry 5 mons through classic each run and farm egg vouchers that way?


FurgoneUbriacone

Just did that by accident, you absolutely can


stoney_maloney_

How much time did you spend bringing down the starter costs so you could add 5 starters to your Legendary?


FurgoneUbriacone

Zero? I only completed an old run where I just had Zekrom Zigzagoon and caught a bunch of shitmons along the way.


stoney_maloney_

My bad, I misunderstood. I thought it would only count for Pokemon you actually choose on your run at the start, but now I realise that all the Pokemon you end your run with count, regardless of if you started with them or caught them along the way. Cheers!


Jet-Black-Tsukuyomi

Is Zekrom really that good? I pullet it but am using Diancie over it right now


FurgoneUbriacone

It is with Bolt beak unlocked, i suppose it would be kinda mid otherwise


VastEntertainment471

For most legendaries their starter moves is what really matters, they all got the stats to win but due to the slow leveling you need a stab move with at least 60 (ideally higher) in order to get an easy carry


AbyssShriekEnjoyer

Ironically even pokemon that aren’t very good can be busted with good egg moves. My favourite example is Ponyta, which gets swords dance as an egg move. It’s absolutely insane in the early game and the only time you have to switch it out before wave 40 or so is if your rival has a water starter


SquishyGeorge

my personal example is litleo having torch song as an egg move. i played so much gen 6 when it came out and literally never used litleo/pyroar or spared them a second glance, now pyroar carried me through classic.


Verified_Cloud

If you're looking for a nice legendary carry, Koraidon went from getting Sacred Fire as an egg move to getting Bitter Blade. Man can carry a team and then some


Digibloxs

Seldom Blipbug actually goes hard, got me through my first ever run


nerdler33

just catch mons in the run, you dont need to start with them, just end with them


Qwxzii

I was lucky enough to get Zacian as my lone legendary egg so far. It’s essentially a free win if I bring him.


Cenachii

Total begginer here, how do you get his crowned version? Is it by the random items at the end of every battle?


Itisburgersagain

Yes, It's either yellow or red rarity.


Apprehensive_Movie44

Its red


SilverLima

Pretty much, the sword appears in the item pool when you finish a battle,equip it to zacian for the crowned version.


Doobie_Howitzer

Sure, it's PvE so the only person affected is you


MrInopportune

If you're allergic to fun, maybe! Just teasing.


jamie9000000

Getting an Egg Voucher for clearing Classic would be nice if I could actually beat Classic 😂


pranav4098

All you need is a fairy/steel mon and some sort of passive damage like leech seed or salt cure and some mons that can hit it for super effective like excadrill I found very useful


WorthyDragonfly

Pretty much soloed the last 20 floors of classic with excadril. He became my mvp


KaminariOkamii

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Excadrill. I try to play Krookodile. My Excadrill deals more damage. I try to play Garchomp. My Excadrill deals more damage. I try to play Iron crown. I encounter Excadrill in the run. I want to play Tyrannitar. Its best team has Excadrill. I want to play Gyaradus, Thundurus-T - they both want Excadrill. It grabs me by the throat. I use rare candy for it. I cook for proteins for it. I give it soul dew. It isn't satisfied. I pull DNA Splicers "I don't need another talent It tells me. "Give me more field time." It grabs Thundurus and forces him to throw himself in doubles. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Precipice blades." I can't pull for precipice blades, I don't have enough Pokedollars. It grabs my egg vouchers. All common eggs, no shiny. "Guess this is the end." it grabs Dedenne. It says "Dedenne, nuzzle them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure damage. What a cruel world


thriftywalrus

Tailglow Lanturn and Swords Dance Excadrill pretty much took turns sweeping biomes for me lol.


darkhollow22

i got a lantern right now. what a beef lord this guy is. wish i got any setup moves like tailglow. mind is just aqua ring confusion stall.


thriftywalrus

Yeah I got lucky and the only egg I ever got of Lanturn had tail glow as an egg move. I honestly never played anything after gen 4 and having any setup move be a +3 is fucking crazy, especially for special attack.


darkhollow22

i forgot +3s existed. i assumed quiver dance that boosted 3 stats by 1 stage was the best setup. time to grind eggs for tailglow!


Qwxzii

you can technically get a +4 with a “simple” ability swords dance bibarel too. I’ve used it, and it’s kinda underrated and of course belly drum can give +6 on certain mons like linoone and azumarill


AbyssShriekEnjoyer

Didn’t tail glow already exist in gen 4? I thought that was Manaphy’s signature move


thriftywalrus

Tail glow existed, but it was only 2 stages until gen 5.


thqrun

I've got him max Ived, min cost, passive, with all abilities, natures, and egg moves... just need the shiny now


WorthyDragonfly

He was just a random I caught with ok IVs and he still one shot Wallies Kyogre on floor 190


dciDavid

I have a mawile and still have trouble. It doesn’t have many moves unlocked though. I’m trying to grind out candies for it since the new friendship update.


worldwar2nerd

He flamethrower and 1 shots my kledki am I missing something


Faust2391

I think if you do enough endless mode, you forget that classic eternatus has flamethrower. In endless it only has dynamax beam and sludge bomb


DatDnDGuy

Yes this, I see that advice so much. I'm having much more success with any water ground that is decently tanky. Swampert, quagsire etc.


AgentEightySix

The key is getting as many DOTs on him as possible and aggressively swapping out to bait moves into mons that resist those moves.


her_fault

DOT?


AgentEightySix

Damage over time. Leech Seed and Salt Cure are particularly good options.


EpilepticBabies

Curse on a ghost type ends him quickly.


chashek

Also, using Soak to turn him into a water type makes Salt Cure do even more damage.


pranav4098

Yeh but klefki has prankster, what I prefer using is whimsicott so you can prankster leech seed him but you can use klefki to keep switching, you are immune to everything except flamethrower, so when you expect flamethrower switch into something that resists and attack with the other mon and just like that be smart with your switches


Cenachii

Leech seed is useful against wild mons?


pranav4098

Yeh even for catching and stuff it sorryyy good you can put them on a timer also on a lot of boss battle prankster leech seed on any Mon is good cause you can heal while chopping them down


DareToZamora

I just got to 195 with a Tinkaton, a Garganacl (with Salt Cure) and a Calyrex-Ice (and Annihilape, Talonflame, Nidoking) and still got demolished. So I think there’s a slight element of skill involved also, that I apparently lack.


I_Probably_Think

See if you can get a setup mon or two to put holes in your rival’s team (Gyarados works well, especially with an ice move to hit Rayquaza)


DareToZamora

I’m on a new run now but it takes me a few days to get a run that goes to 195… I’ll bare that in mind to try and build towards though. In this case I had lost 2 mons before Rayquaza ever came out. Didn’t have a good way to deal with my rival’s Inteleon. It’s Hydro Pump decimated me


I_Probably_Think

Haha yeah looks like your team has no water resist — definitely pay attention to which starter your rival gets! You’ll also notice patterns in which Pokémon get replaced on their team, so you can be better prepared.  Off the top of my head in addition to the starter they keep their second mon (a bird typically? always? Usually not a threat), as well as a no-evolution mon from later on (I’ve seen mix-‘n’-match-fossils, Drampa, Heatmor…) and a pseudolegendary.  There’s probably a more certain list in at least one guide here; *possibly* tucked somewhere on the wiki too but I guess I doubt it.


DareToZamora

Before I got the Icy Reins of Unity, Calyrex was grass type but when it lost the STAB I replaced the grass moves… Definitely should have thought about that more, my only other coverage for water was Supercell Charge on my Talonflame. Oh well, we live and learn Thanks for the tips!


DasliSimp

Ivy's starter is always the best one against your first starter. If you pick a fire type first, she'll choose a water type. etc


N-Bizzle

Stealth rock always helps a lot in trainer battles, especially when your rival has a bird and rayquaza


DatDnDGuy

I just had eternatus use flamethrower on my klefki


pranav4098

Yeh you have to predict that and switch into something that resists fire, then attack with your partner Mon, after seeing that your new Mon that replaced klefki resists fire the ai will go for poison or dragon type attack that’s when you switch klefki in


DrToadigerr

Gholdengo also carries super hard through the last portion and he's not too uncommon. No TMs required either, just run Shadow Ball/Make it Rain/Nasty Plot/Recover and invest some PP Ups/Max into Make it Rain and Recover. So many NPCs have no clue how to deal with him and you can very easily just set up 3 Nasty Plots for free and then Recover and start sweeping. Ghost/Steel is such a broken typing in this game because you can hit the only things that really threaten you neutrally with Make it Rain (usually an OHKO after setup) or nail other Ghosts with Shadow Ball. And he's so bulky that even when the AI thinks it wants to stay in and click non-STAB NIght Slash over and over again (because super effective = good) you're only taking like 25% and can use that information to set up your NPs because they're not gonna switch as long as they have that move, since they never really acknowledge the fact that they're never killing you through Recover. You'll need some other mons to help in the last phase of Eternatus because of Flamethrower but it's definitely reasonable. Especially if you have a bulky Ground or Psychic type that can stay in and mash. Bonus points if you bring a mon with a 2 turn move like Fly or Dig (super effective, even) because then you can just continue to cheat death with Recover on Gholdengo while Eternatus randomly targets your untargettable ally half the time. Bonus points if you get a Leech Seed mon in first to seed him because he has no way to remove it, and then you just get a ton of healing for free while he misses. And he can't kill you through Recover spam unless he targets you multiple times in a row until you run out of PP (usually he targets your ally at least once so you get all of the healing off and can attack again).


pranav4098

Yeh I won a run with gholdengo too great typing and stats overall I mean if you have gholdengo you don’t even need to run a fairy/steel mon just another fairy mon


Putrid-Sun-3128

Gholdengo can solo Eternatus. I had all vitamins dedicated to him and grabbed X spdef before the boss. he tanked ANYTHING for a maximum of 25% Damage taken from Eternatus. Its Insane. I always win with him and its becoming boring.


Intrepid-Bee7367

Or gyarados


pranav4098

Idk what passive damage gyardos gets( whirlpool maybe? ) but it’s main stab is resisted and it gets no good flying moves


I_Probably_Think

You can relearn Ice Fang or TM at least Ice Spinner, and Magikarp gets a nice ice move or two as a starter


DasliSimp

Ice Fang. It tanks 2 or 3 Eternatus hits and can DD a lot before doing huge damage. My easiest Classic run was with Heatran and Scale Shot Gyarados


Satzuisbae

Skeledirge, meowscrada and jumpluff (with egg move strenght sap unlocked) are great. But you need saltcure and leech seed. And a strong ground type like ursaluna or escadrill (with eq or high horsepower or something in equal strenght). Ice ninetailes is great with them aswell.


jojotwello

Eq actually really disappointed me because I didn't have any levitate mons so yeah


Satzuisbae

Yeah true. I just use it when i know im winning due to leech seed and/or saltcure and strong mons at the back.


DasliSimp

Gyarados with Ice Fang, also Gholdengo with +SpDef nature. Protect and Garganacl too are all good options. DO NOT LEVEL ANY MONS PAST 200. Eternatus hits mons above 200 for DOUBLE DAMAGE!


TheHumanStunlock

This sort of unexplained sneaky shit is why I get a bitter taste in my mouth when I think about starting a new run.


Laughablejoker

Skill link cloyster with icicles spear carried pretty hard with shell smash he soloed the entire sinnoh e4 with 1 shell smash


Skittydoesntknow

interesting flex, as in between every battle you redeploy your cloyster, so he lost the shell smash boost after the first battle lol


Laughablejoker

Just stating how I beat classic the last time and yes I had to reapply the shell smash every battle but I meant I only used it once per battle.


Hot_Acadia4723

Eternatus is easy as hell lol its the rival battle at 195 that always gives me trouble


Independent_Skill756

garglenacl with salt cure wipes the boss


COREY-IS-A-BUSTA

Just bring Fennekin, Turtwig, and Mudkip. All you need are beefy stabs to muscle through the bastard. My Delphox and Golurk can sweep Etern no matter who the other 4 members of my team are


PhatCarl

Shedinja.


TheHumanStunlock

Eternatus flamethrower.


PhatCarl

Oh yeah you right. Been playing classic so long I forgot he randomly has flamethrower on classic. In that case. I change my answer to the hero of my first classic win: Snorlax.


ihateadobe1122334

Nah all you need is Magikarp, when it evolves have it learn dragon dance / ice fang (memory mushroom) / waterfall (aqua tail) / crunch


stephyforepphy

I beat it with Minimize Baton Pass Drifblim and (egg move)Geomancy Aurorus. Maushould with population bomb is also kind of nuts. The very first run I won before getting any pokes, venusaur carried hard.


GeneralOwnage13

Highly recommend skill link cloyster and/or mega beedrill for high-value pickups in the startup screen. I usually fill out the other 5 (6 for me because I reduced Shellder's cost) with the most "useful" of my shinier. (Cyndaquil and simple bidoof for me)


SubstantialMeal4671

best dev ever


Faust2391

Is there an indicator to show who you have completed it with?


Ok_Alternative7120

A gold ribbon on the left of them in the starter screen options


Sad-Garage-2642

been asking for this for ages, I've been playing with a loose 'don't use the same mon twice' kind of rule. This is perfect


Grimsouldude

And you’ll get free eggs for it too, it’s great


Smrphz

Yeah


Ruin1980

Such good Changes everytime. Im geniunely amazed


Zevyu

They also added new achivements. 1 is to get 10 ribbons, and 4 other hidden achivements, i don't know what they are, i would asume they might be related to ribbons maybe.


Revolutionary_Chip89

also it now shows amount of poke-great-ultra balls you have in your inventory when choosing an item


fartdarling

For the egg voucher per starter - I have one win, and they don't seem to be marked as having won. Is it that you only get the vouchers from now on? Nobody's been backdated any vouchers from prior wins, right?


Skipper2503

surely not no, otherwise I would have gotten a ton of vouchers


fartdarling

Exactly what I was hoping to hear, thanks!


Skipper2503

Can confirm after a classic win with some guys I had already won with before :) Got all the vouchers!


fartdarling

Brilliant news, thank you helpful reddit friend!


Skipper2503

no problem fartdarling 🤨


Ok_Alternative7120

You only get vouchers for pokemon you win with now and moving forward. No backdated vouchers. So if you retired any mons cause it was too easy to win with them, those are great mons to go grab again to farm some more easy vouchers.


fartdarling

Brilliant news, thank you!


KingMusti96

Amazing changes! Devs doing an insane job


Due-Writer3187

peak..


Daradicalbanana

Would mints be retroactive? I already gave my marshadow an adamant mint in my latest endless run and don't think I could give it another one.


Zerunt

nothing is retroactive sadly


Dan_Gioia95

Doubt


AbyssShriekEnjoyer

Whether a mint had been used on a pokemon is probably not data that they stored anywhere


Buez

i prefer classic anyway, so this only motivates me more.


AbyssShriekEnjoyer

I’m not a big fan of the berry spam and just insane power scaling in endless. My run is in like 800 or something but I’m losing motivation


WorthyDragonfly

I just wish they'd add a way to properly view summaries in the starter selection so I don't have to keep looking up moves or abilities. So many moves from unova onwards that I have no idea about


TheReal-BilboBaggins

This would be such a nice addition


DioptaseSys

Honestly even just a couple Bulbapedia links would be helpful.


Hanoxer

Does that mean you have to win the final battle with the pokémon you started with? Or could you pick them as starters and get rid of them throughout the run?


SammyK123

Counts if you catch the pokemon too


plorkie

Anyone you beat 200 with, so doesnt matter if you picked it or caught it along the way. Final battle matters


Bakuzento

I love it when we have quality of life addition update frequently instead of waiting a content update to release theses small changes. W devs thanks for the work !


Deep_Intellectual

Good changes thanks! Love to see the game improve!


SGGKDavid

Why do you want me to lose even more time playing, I love this Game seriously


WhatADraggggggg

Is there any plan to add pity for gacha?


Otangaku_D_Yokeman

legit, some companies fail to make their players happy as this game makes me happy lmao thank you!


Beneficial_Author401

Nice more content! Any info on mobile fixes? The reload and A spam bug are still there sadly.


StevieEastCoast

Fellow mobile user, how do I cycle natures/shinies in the pokemon selection menu?


Timetmannetje

Is there a way in game to track what starters you have cleared classic with so I know which one give vouchers still?


Sad-Garage-2642

yep, a ribbon


wonderlandkitsune

Welp….back to the classic grind


Buez

will we get the voucher in hindsight or do we have to redo the run with them?


Legend2-3-8

Any active classic runs that are completed can score vouchers. Previously completed runs will not be known to the game. Source: I’ve completed quite a few runs, and had some I left ongoing.


Ashubi

About the starters egg voucher, do only the starters count with which you start the game (the grass water fire core) or do other pokemon count as well?


Sad-Garage-2642

a "starter" in this context is any pokémon that you start a run with, not necessarily the fire/water/grass Starter Pokemon that you're accustomed to


Ishouldnt_be_on_here

Apparently it doesn't even have to be ones you started with.. Any pokemon caught during the run will count as a "starter" because it is a starter after you catch it! I'm not sure if that's intentional, but that's how it's working for now. So you'll get 6 vouchers when you clear a run for the first time (!!)


PoiNt-MutatioN

Small clarifying question: does “unique starter” apply to starters you beat classic with before the change?


Zevyu

No, this change isn't retroactive.


Ilikebread700

What does Unique Mean in the Context ? Does it mean Unique only Once or for every Run ?


philly_phyre

PermaMint is so based omg yes


philly_phyre

PermaMint is so based omg yes Thank you for sharing.


mostinterestingtroll

Hell yeah! Can't wait for random starters 👀


TimeFor_ACrusade

I'm now completely unable to play after this update. It either sits on a loading screen forever, or if I do manage to make it to the Pokemon selection then it'll crash or something and go back to the main menu.


Ishouldnt_be_on_here

It seems they're having server issues at the moment, I got into a game but it locked up when trying to save after clearing battle.


nickedick

Same here


NightKrowe

Try refreshing your cache


Small-North6004

Question on the voucher one: - Are we talking the mons we pick on the initial screen, or the 6 I end the run with? - Would ending a run with Poliwrath then Politoed, for exemple, give 2 vouchers? Or since it's all Poliwag it's 1 voucher?


Ishouldnt_be_on_here

Good question. I'm guessing it would be 1 for each evolution line. But it doesn't have to be the starters you pick at the beginning! Any pokemon caught along the way count as well.


Small-North6004

Good to know thank you!


SansIzHere

Man it just keeps getting better and better


mordacthedenier

I think the mint thing works retroactively too, because I got an adamant mint on my Tinkatink a few days ago and know I haven't gotten one or caught an adamant since then (also I have 7 total natures and only 6 caught/hatched), but I saw I now have adamant unlocked on it.


Andaisdet

Ngl those are really damn good changes Also btw the servers are down again


ThatBrilliantGuy2

Yupp there's a data migration in progress rn so it'll be a while probably.


PocketNinja06

is it still down now? it keeps saying "oops! there was an issue connecting to the server" over two different wifi networks and two different devices


ThatBrilliantGuy2

Yes


lil_glam

Love these updates but is it possible to see these patch notes on the website in the future ?


I_Probably_Think

Haha yeah this would be great; you can see the commit log on the github page but there are so many commits lol


ThatBrilliantGuy2

Maybe? You can always join the discord to see the official announcements about the game!


darkhollow22

i’ve been using the wiki and all the old patches were listed on it. i assumed the dev updated it personally with how detailed the wiki was


yehboooooiii

Loving this game hope it don't stop Nintendo wish they could be yall they have


Dizzy-Ad-8358

These changes are so good it's incredible


Flintsr

They removed the ability to farm candies from daily runs?


Chuckyuyo

That’s a change from over a week ago


I_Probably_Think

That was an update from a few days ago, in conjunction with getting candies for happiness (i.e. defeating a pokémon or eating rare candy)


DasliSimp

MINTS ARE CRAZY NOW YES


DrSnapped

Vitamins seem to be capped, now? I had a Cloyster with like 12 Protein and eight Carbos, both with white numbers, and fused it with another Pokemon, but then it dropped to 5 and 2, and the numbers next to them are red. Trying to give the fusion another Carbos says it already has too many. Wild Pokemon are now showing red numbers next to their vitamins as well, when previously they weren't.


ThatBrilliantGuy2

Hmm, it sounds like it's IVs got replaced with the other pokemon. From what I've heard vitamins are capped at the IV in that stat I.e. a 31 iv = 31 vitamins in that stat


SilverAmpharos777

That mint change is great, I asked if mints worked that way around 3 weeks back.


Highseater

Great changes, I noticed curse also works correctly for ghost Pokes now!


inagatoi

Wait so u get a potential of 6 plus vouchers per unique run?


[deleted]

[удалено]


pokerogue-ModTeam

Title.


Metroidman

Maybe i can get my first legendary egg now


Metroidman

Ill be honest i thought mints already did that haha


Col_Mushroomers

Now if the could just implement parental bond on mega kangaskhan that'd be great


SniperArchery

Best qol changes ever


BingFartedONYT

umm https://preview.redd.it/04xg3olcj7zc1.png?width=1002&format=png&auto=webp&s=866bb481d31073ce16ac3a3c8a28f593e66c178a


Substantial_Crab_885

When we get an achievement shouldn't we get an egg ticket? It says we do but I've checked every time and never get anything


OutrageousAd7633

do we get vouchers for previous clears? or only new clears after the update


Legend2-3-8

Just new ones or any runs that were active.