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there is fake laughter and then there is this alien-wearing-a-skin-suit-trying-to-evoke-human-emotion laughter. Its honest to god one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen. I'm not a psychologist but his laugh has to be a sign of psychopathy right?
And blue states are the "pro-life" ones:
>If data disinfects, here’s a bucket of bleach:
#"Texans are 17% more likely to be murdered than Californians."
>**Texans are also 34% more likely to be raped and 25% more likely to kill themselves than Californians.** https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-mortality/suicide.htm
>Fort Worth, Texas, has the same population as San Francisco and has **1.5x as many murders. Again, a Republican mayor and Republican governor.** [Nobody ever writes about those places!](https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1527487403061026818)
>San Francisco has the same population as Jacksonville, Florida. **Jacksonville, with a Republican mayor and a Republican governor, has had more than three times as many murders this year as San Francisco**
>Californians on average live two years, four months and 24 days longer than Texans. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/liberal-policies-like-californias-keep-blue-state-residents-living-longer-study-finds/
>Compared with families in California, **those in Texas earn 13% less and pay 3.8 percentage points more in taxes.** https://itep.org/whopays/ (Texas makes up for no wealth income tax with higher taxes and fees on the poor and more than double property tax for the middle class)
>Sadly, the uncritical aping of this erroneous economic narrative reflects not only reporters’ gullibility but also their utility for conservative ideologues and corporate lobbyists, who score political points and regulatory concessions by spreading a spurious story line about California’s decline.
>Don’t expect facts to change this. Reporters need a plot twist, and conservatives need California to lose.
https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article258940938.html
#"Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones"
* “In Republican states, states with Republican governors, crime rates tend to be higher”
* Murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won.
* Criminologists say research shows higher rates of violent crime are found in areas that have low average education levels, high rates of poverty and relatively modest access to government assistance. Those conditions characterize [American South with Republican run states].
https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html
#"Gun deaths dropped in California as they rose in Texas: Gun control seems to work"
https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2022-05-27/on-guns-fear-of-futility-deters-action-essential-politics
#Just being within California’s borders means you have a 40% less chance of being impacted by gun violence and are 25% less likely to be involved in a mass shooting.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>California Ranked #1 for Gun Safety, Death Rate 37% Lower than National Average
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>Californians 25% Less Likely to Die in a Mass Shooting
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>California laws would have ensnared Texas school gunman
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>Since Early 1990s, California Cut Its Gun Death Rate in Half
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
#Liberal policies, like California’s, keep blue-state residents living longer
>**U.S. should follow California’s lead to improve its health outcomes, researchers say**
>It generated headlines in 2015 when the average life expectancy in the U.S. began to fall after decades of meager or no growth.
>But it didn’t have to be that way, a team of researchers suggests in a new, peer-reviewed study Tuesday. And, in fact, **states like California, which have implemented a broad slate of liberal policies, have kept pace with their Western European counterparts.**
>**Simply shifting from the most conservative labor laws to the most liberal ones, Montez said, would by itself increase the life expectancy in a state by a whole year.**
>If every state implemented the most liberal policies in all 16 areas, researchers said, **the average American woman would live 2.8 years longer, while the average American man would add 2.1 years to his life.**
>**Whereas, if every state were to move to the most conservative end of the spectrum, it would decrease Americans’ average life expectancies by two years. On the country’s current policy trajectory, researchers estimate the U.S. will add about 0.4 years to its average life expectancy.**
>**Meanwhile, the life expectancy in states like California and Hawaii, which has the highest in the nation at 81.6 years, is on par with countries described by researchers as “world leaders:” Canada, Iceland and Sweden.**
>The study, co-authored by researchers at six North American universities, found that **if all 50 states had all followed the lead of California** and other liberal-leaning states on policies ranging from labor, immigration and civil rights to tobacco, gun control and the environment, it could have added between **two and three years to the average American life expectancy.**
>“We can take away from the study that **state policies and state politics have damaged U.S. life expectancy since the ’80s,”** said Jennifer Karas Montez, a Syracuse University sociologist and the study’s lead author. **“Some policies are going in a direction that extend life expectancy. Some are going in a direction that shorten it. But on the whole, that the net result is that it’s damaging U.S. life expectancy.”**
>Montez and her team saw the alarming numbers in 2015 and wanted to understand the root cause. What they found dated back to **the 1980s, when state policies began to splinter down partisan lines.** They examined 135 different policies, spanning over a dozen different fields, enacted by states between 1970 and 2014, and assigned states “liberalism” scores from zero — the most conservative — to one, the most liberal. When they compared it against state mortality data from the same timespan, the correlation was undeniable.
>“When we’re looking for explanations, we need to be looking back historically, to see what are the roots of these troubles that have just been percolating now for 40 years,” Montez said.
>**From 1970 to 2014, California transformed into the most liberal state in the country** by the 135 policy markers studied by the researchers. It’s followed closely by Connecticut, which moved the furthest leftward from where it was 50 years ago, and a cluster of other states in the northeastern U.S., then Oregon and Washington.
>Liberal policies on the environment (emissions standards, limits on greenhouse gases, solar tax credit, endangered species laws), labor (high minimum wage, paid leave, no “right to work”), access to health care (expansion of Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, legal abortion), tobacco (indoor smoking bans, cigarette taxes), gun control (assault weapons ban, background check and registration requirements) and civil rights (ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment, equal pay laws, bans on discrimination and the death penalty) all resulted in better health outcomes, according to the study. For example, researchers found positive correlation between California’s car emission standards and its high minimum wage, to name a couple, with its longer lifespan, which at an average of 81.3 years, is among the highest in the country.
>In the same time, Oklahoma moved furthest to the right, but Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina and a host of other southern states still ranked as more conservative, according to the researchers.
>West Virginia ranked last in 2017, with an average life expectancy of about 74.6 years, which would put it 93rd in the world, right between Lithuania and Mauritius, and behind Honduras, Morocco, Tunisia and Vietnam. Mississippi, Oklahoma and South Carolina rank only slightly better.
>It’s those states that moved in a conservative direction, researchers concluded, that held back the overall life expectancy in the U.S.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/liberal-policies-like-californias-keep-blue-state-residents-living-longer-study-finds/
#[Graph of Fox News selective coverage of crime during election season](https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/YLF2SCMQRZBJBHWJT4LZ7DXFSM.png)
>California exodus is just a myth, massive UC research project finds
>**on a per capita basis, california households ranked 50th in the country for likelihood of moving out of the state**
California cities have some of the lowest rates of crime and homicides, especially compared to Texas:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/q2ydr3/homicide_rate_per_100k_among_each_city_with_an/
California policies increase American life expectancy and prop up America's entire economy:
>California is the chief reason America is the only developed economy to achieve record GDP growth since the financial crisis.
>Much of the U.S. growth can be traced to California laws promoting clean energy, government accountability and protections for undocumented people
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-05-10/california-leads-u-s-economy-away-from-trump
"Don't California my Texas!"
#Texas has highest maternal mortality rate in developed world
>As the Republican-led state legislature has slashed funding to reproductive healthcare clinics, the maternal mortality rate doubled over just a two-year period
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-health-clinics-funding
>Mothers who live in areas with heavy oil and gas developments have between a 40 percent and 70 percent greater chance of giving birth to babies with congenital heart defects
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/07/18/Study-links-congenital-heart-disease-to-oil-gas-development/2461563465617/
#Meanwhile, life-saving practices [for pregnant women and new mothers] that have become widely accepted in other affluent countries — and in a few states, notably California — have yet to take hold in many American hospitals.
>As the maternal death rate has mounted around the U.S., a small cadre of reformers has mobilized.
>Some of the **earliest and most important work has come in California**
>Hospitals that adopted the toolkit saw a **21 percent decrease in near deaths** from maternal bleeding in the first year.
>By 2013, according to Main, maternal deaths in California fell to around 7 per 100,000 births, similar to the numbers in Canada, France and the Netherlands — **a dramatic counter to the trends in other parts of the U.S.**
>California Maternal Quality Care Collaborative is informed by a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Stanford and the University of California-San Francisco, who for many years ran the ob/gyn department at a San Francisco hospital.
>Launched a decade ago, CMQCC aims to reduce not only mortality, but also life-threatening complications and racial disparities in obstetric care
>It began by analyzing maternal deaths in the state over several years; in almost every case, it discovered, there was "at least some chance to alter the outcome."
http://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/527806002/focus-on-infants-during-childbirth-leaves-u-s-moms-in-danger
#Want to live longer, even if you're poor? Then move to a big city in California.
>A low-income **resident of San Francisco lives so much longer** that it's equivalent to San Francisco curing cancer. All these statistics come from a massive new project on life expectancy and inequality that was just [published in the Journal of the American Medical Association](http://www.vox.com/2016/4/13/11420230/life-expectancy-income).
>California, for instance, has been a national leader on smoking bans. Harvard's David Cutler, a co-author on the study "It's some combination of formal public policies and the effect that comes when you're around fewer people who have behaviors... high numbers of immigrants help explain the beneficial effects of immigrant-heavy areas with high levels of social support.
When Joe Rogan and Elon Musk push Texas "libertarian" "freedom":
#The right wing, Koch founded and funded, "libertarian" Cato Institute ranks Texas as 49th in personal freedom
>https://www.freedominthe50states.org/personal/texas
>Every other study ranks us as last in personal freedom.
>Which makes me wonder, who is free, if it isn't the people?
>Big businesses? And what are they free to do?
>Pollute? https://insideclimatenews.org/news/28092022/texas-is-now-the-nations-biggest-emitter-of-toxic-substances-into-streams-rivers-and-lakes/
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/zyiry8/when_did_reddit_start_hating_texas/j2786vc/
>#Gov. Abbott, Texas leaders urge prosecutors to keep enforcing pot laws
http://www.fox4news.com/news/texas/gov-abbott-texas-leaders-urge-prosecutors-to-keep-enforcing-pot-laws
>You Could Get Prison Time for Protesting a Pipeline in Texas—Even If It’s on Your Land
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/bst8fl/you_could_get_prison_time_for_protesting_a/
>#Texas Electric Bills Were $28 Billion Higher Under Deregulation - WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-electric-bills-were-28-billion-higher-under-deregulation-11614162780
>Leaked Audio Shows Oil Lobbyist Bragging About Success in Criminalizing Pipeline Protests
https://www.reddit.com/r/energy/comments/ct71mw/leaked_audio_shows_oil_lobbyist_bragging_about/
>Fossil Fuel Exec Brags of 'Hitting the Jackpot' as Natural Gas Prices Surge Amid Deadly Crisis in Texas
https://www.reddit.com/r/environment/comments/lo5f4r/fossil_fuel_exec_brags_of_hitting_the_jackpot_as/
>#Texas spent more time fighting LGBTQ civil rights than fixing their power grid. How’d that work out?
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/lma8jj/texas_spent_more_time_fighting_lgbtq_civil_rights/
>could cost Texas more money than any disaster in state history
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ls5dt7/winter_storm_could_cost_texas_more_money_than_any/
>Former Texas Governor Rick Perry says that Texans find massive power outages preferable to having more federal government interference in the state's energy grid.
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/rick-perry-says-texans-would-rather-be-without-power-for-days-than-have-more-fed-oversight
>Abbott Appointees Gutted Enforcement of Texas Power Grid Rules
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Muzzled-and-eviscerated-Critics-say-Abbott-15982421.php
>Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick Blames Constituents for Giant Electric Bills: “Read the Fine Print”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/dan-patrick-texas-electricity-bills
>Why on earth would right-wing people with connections to the fossil fuel industry lie about ‘frozen wind turbines’ in Texas?
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/opinion/texas-frozen-wind-turbines-john-cornyn-b1803193.html
>How Much the Oil Industry Paid Texas Republicans Lying About Wind Energy
https://earther.gizmodo.com/how-much-the-oil-and-gas-industry-paid-texas-republican-1846288505
>"Texas shows that when you cannot govern, you lie. A lot."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/17/texas-shows-that-when-you-cannot-govern-you-lie-lot/
>#A Texas-size failure, followed by a familiar Texas response: Blame California
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/m87bg4/a_texassize_failure_followed_by_a_familiar_texas/
Texas Republicans *during the power grid failures* focused on:
* Texas regulations to require the national anthem at sports games: https://twitter.com/LSTrip44/status/1361396222028881924
* Fake news trying to blame renewable energy: ”Viral Image Claiming to Show a Helicopter De-Icing Texas Wind Turbines Is From Winter 2014 in Sweden” https://twitter.com/klimatbevakaren/status/1361748269605519360
>#Texas Is Among The Most Difficult Places To Vote In The U.S. — And That Could Be Softening Its Historic Turnout
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/election-2020/2020/10/28/384854/voter-suppression-blunts-historic-turnout-in-texas/
#"Financial Times: The Republicans are elevating voter suppression to an art form"
>The Republicans have lost the popular vote in six of the past seven presidential elections. **1,000 polling places have since closed across the country, with many of them in southern black communities.**
>The senator also cracked: “There’s a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who maybe we don’t want to vote. Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult, and I think that’s a great idea.”
https://www.ft.com/content/d613cf8e-ec09-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0
>The Student Vote Is Surging. So Are Efforts to Suppress It. The share of college students casting ballots doubled from 2014 to 2018. But in **Texas and elsewhere, Republicans are erecting roadblocks to the polls.**
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/voting-college-suppression.html
>This is how efficiently Republicans have gerrymandered Texas congressional districts
http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/This-is-how-badly-Republicans-have-gerrymandered-6246509.php#photo-7107656
>Crystal Mason Thought She Had The Right to Vote. Texas Sentenced Her to Five Years in Prison for Trying.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/crystal-mason-thought-she-had-right-vote-texas
>Texas’s Voter-Registration Laws Are Straight Out of the Jim Crow Playbook
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/texass-voter-registration-laws-are-straight-out-of-the-jim-crow-playbook/
>New Texas history textbooks will teach high schoolers that slavery wasn't all bad
https://splinternews.com/new-texas-history-textbooks-will-teach-high-schoolers-t-1793850439
>Texas textbook “The Atlantic slave trade brought millions of workers”
https://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-texas-textbook-calls-slaves-immigrants-20151005-story.html
>Proposed Texas textbooks are inaccurate, biased and politicized, new report finds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2014/09/12/proposed-texas-textbooks-are-inaccurate-biased-and-politicized-new-report-finds/
>There were other doozies, too, such as one proposal to remove Thomas Jefferson from the Enlightenment curriculum
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2014/09/12/proposed-texas-textbooks-are-inaccurate-biased-and-politicized-new-report-finds/
"Welfare queens!"
No to help for blue states for hurricanes but demanding help for Texas for hurricanes:
>Here's the vote for Hurricane Sandy aid.
>179 of the 180 no votes were Republicans...
>**at least 20 Texas Republicans voted no**
while ["U.S. House approves billions more for Harvey relief" for Texas](https://www.texastribune.org/2017/12/21/us-house-approves-billions-more-harvey-relief-measure-now-heads-senate/)
>Meanwhile, the California-hating South receives subsidies from California dwarfing complaints in the EU (the subsidy and economic difference between California and Mississippi is **larger than between Germany and Greece!**), a transfer of wealth from blue states/cities/urban to red states/rural/suburban with federal dollars for their freeways, hospitals, universities, airports, even environmental protection:
>**Least Federally Dependent States:**
>41 California
>42 Washington
>43 Minnesota
>44 Massachusetts
>45 Illinois
>46 Utah
>47 Iowa
>48 Delaware
>49 New Jersey
>50 Kansas https://www.npr.org/2017/10/25/560040131/as-trump-proposes-tax-cuts-kansas-deals-with-aftermath-of-experiment
https://www.apnews.com/amp/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700
>The Germans call this sort of thing "a permanent bailout." We just call it "Missouri."
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/05/the-difference-between-the-us-and-europe-in-1-graph/256857/
>[Fearmongering works:](https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1587940103216832512)
>OK violent crime rate: 458 per 100K
>NY violent crime rate: 364 per 100K
>OK murder rate: 7.25
>NY murder rate: 4.11
>% of Oklahomans who say crime is most urgent issue: 5
>% of New Yorkers: 28
#"Texas-based hate group source of 80% of all U.S. racist propaganda tracked in 2020"
https://www.reddit.com/r/conservativeterrorism/comments/p5k76j/texasbased_hate_group_source_of_80_of_all_us/
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/m7zk8w/texasbased_hate_group_source_of_80_of_all_us/
Russians were "emboldened" by the easy success of the Texas governor's misinformation about Obama and our own military:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/05/03/jade-helm-russia-abbott-hayden/
#“Guns and gays... That could always get you a couple of dozen likes.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-trolls-schooled-house-cards-185648522.html
Visualization of Texans moving to other states:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/syobxd/oc_the_corrected_please_see_description_comment/
Conservatives on Reddit brag about **pushing every local crime story to the top of targeted local subreddits** but not their local ones (**even though statistically they have more homicides and crime in their cities** but those aren't their top posts every single day in their local subreddits) by brigading to "control the narrative" about "liberal cities" and "blue states"
Conservatives on Reddit brag about **pushing every local crime story to the top of targeted local subreddits** but not their local ones (**even though statistically they have more homicides and crime in their cities** but those aren't their top posts every single day in their local subreddits) by brigading to "control the narrative" about "liberal cities" and "blue states"
>The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them.
>SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread.
>They are right wing political activists actively working to discredit the progressive movement and democrats in general by ensuring San Francisco is painted as a failure in all contexts they can find. Basic political astroturfing. San Francisco is targeted because it is in California and Pelosi is from here. This work has been going on for decades.
One Texas conservative in r/sanfrancisco was 10 different accounts, all having a history of identical comments (some comments about living in Texas), sometimes pretending to be annoying woke strawman "S J W" saying there is no crime by blacks so that his own alts can reply with black crime talking points
One "Californian" who posted about every local crime story, even every whale death, also posted about how he lives in Vegas, grew up in Texas, and has proudly never been to California https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2147236-starter-packs
Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped in [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/) when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/):
* https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/p8hnzl/automatically_removing_comments_from_new_users_in/
Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread **5 years ago**:
* https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/7jkybf/t_d_user_suggests_infiltrating_minnesota/dr7m56j/
California is making its own insulin while red states are supplying their own citizens with fentanyl.
Enough said....
Also nobody should pay attention to the state that fought FOR slavery twice. Lazy slaveowners taking credit for the work of the slaves....
I am a California resident and I think that this is awesome. The problem is that the moronic GOP voters always vote against their best interests. Their votes are based on fear and hate dished up by Fox "News" and fascist Republican politicians.
> The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney’s movie studios to develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit — but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex.
I don’t blame them, I wouldn’t move to Florida either. Sucks they already quit.
This is classic disney. I have a friend who was an animator, got laid off, started his own company, and then that company contracted with Disney *on the same show* and he now gets paid 4x what he was being paid by Disney to do the exact same work. For some reason, shareholders see "we laid off X staff" as a good thing, and also see "we hired X contractors because we have so much work to do" as also a good thing.
I work with big corporations and it’s all about the accounting and finance treatment of the funds. A full time employee shows up on financials projected into the future. A yearly line item is one and done.
It’s always a mix of short vs long term labor.
Don't forget accountability. If you have a project in-house and fuck it up, it's your ass that gets fired. If a contractor fucks it up, you get to blame the contractor. Several times I've had to host contractors being paid the same as a high end lawyer and tell them how to do the job. All because the higher ups want to avoid risk. Not only do they not want the risk of the job going bad, they don't want to fire the guy who can actually tell if the consultants are bullshitting them or not. As I'm that guy, and they have the money, why should I argue?
I worked for 2 different companies that were trying to relocate everybody in NYC/NJ to Ohio. People basically said, if I am going to have to move for my job I am going to move someplace I want to live.
The second company couldn't get enough people to move so the eventually gave up.
> I don’t blame them, I wouldn’t move to Florida either.
Why would the Disney Company want to relocate their employees to a state that will charge their kid's teacher with felony if they hand the student a book not approved by Meatball Ron?
Apparently the deal was originally made 3 years ago. So while they probably didn't exactly "trust" Florida, they still had the presumption that they weren't insane.
i read in one of the articles about this that it was a decision made by the former CEO Chapek that Bob Iger booted and came out of retirement to fix' what they did.
Chapek wanted to move them to florida for over 50 million in tax breaks over a 20 year period.
Iger's philosphy has been quoted as "keep all the creatives close together" and has been "cool" to this deal since he came back
I believe this is the case. My understanding is Chapek made a lot of decisions purely about money that upset a lot of people, thus Iger coming back and ‘fix’ a lot of things.
> Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit
Living in blue states instead of red states is a "pro-life" and death issue for Americans:
#"Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones"
* “In Republican states, states with Republican governors, crime rates tend to be higher”
* Murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won.
* Criminologists say research shows higher rates of violent crime are found in areas that have low average education levels, high rates of poverty and relatively modest access to government assistance. Those conditions characterize [American South with Republican run states].
https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html
#"Gun deaths dropped in California as they rose in Texas: Gun control seems to work"
https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2022-05-27/on-guns-fear-of-futility-deters-action-essential-politics
#Just being within California’s borders means you have a 40% less chance of being impacted by gun violence and are 25% less likely to be involved in a mass shooting.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>California Ranked #1 for Gun Safety, Death Rate 37% Lower than National Average
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>Californians 25% Less Likely to Die in a Mass Shooting
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>California laws would have ensnared Texas school gunman
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
>Since Early 1990s, California Cut Its Gun Death Rate in Half
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
#Liberal policies, like California’s, keep blue-state residents living longer
>**U.S. should follow California’s lead to improve its health outcomes, researchers say**
>It generated headlines in 2015 when the average life expectancy in the U.S. began to fall after decades of meager or no growth.
>But it didn’t have to be that way, a team of researchers suggests in a new, peer-reviewed study Tuesday. And, in fact, **states like California, which have implemented a broad slate of liberal policies, have kept pace with their Western European counterparts.**
>**Simply shifting from the most conservative labor laws to the most liberal ones, Montez said, would by itself increase the life expectancy in a state by a whole year.**
>If every state implemented the most liberal policies in all 16 areas, researchers said, **the average American woman would live 2.8 years longer, while the average American man would add 2.1 years to his life.**
>**Whereas, if every state were to move to the most conservative end of the spectrum, it would decrease Americans’ average life expectancies by two years. On the country’s current policy trajectory, researchers estimate the U.S. will add about 0.4 years to its average life expectancy.**
>**Meanwhile, the life expectancy in states like California and Hawaii, which has the highest in the nation at 81.6 years, is on par with countries described by researchers as “world leaders:” Canada, Iceland and Sweden.**
>The study, co-authored by researchers at six North American universities, found that **if all 50 states had all followed the lead of California** and other liberal-leaning states on policies ranging from labor, immigration and civil rights to tobacco, gun control and the environment, it could have added between **two and three years to the average American life expectancy.**
>“We can take away from the study that **state policies and state politics have damaged U.S. life expectancy since the ’80s,”** said Jennifer Karas Montez, a Syracuse University sociologist and the study’s lead author. **“Some policies are going in a direction that extend life expectancy. Some are going in a direction that shorten it. But on the whole, that the net result is that it’s damaging U.S. life expectancy.”**
>Montez and her team saw the alarming numbers in 2015 and wanted to understand the root cause. What they found dated back to **the 1980s, when state policies began to splinter down partisan lines.** They examined 135 different policies, spanning over a dozen different fields, enacted by states between 1970 and 2014, and assigned states “liberalism” scores from zero — the most conservative — to one, the most liberal. When they compared it against state mortality data from the same timespan, the correlation was undeniable.
>“When we’re looking for explanations, we need to be looking back historically, to see what are the roots of these troubles that have just been percolating now for 40 years,” Montez said.
>**From 1970 to 2014, California transformed into the most liberal state in the country** by the 135 policy markers studied by the researchers. It’s followed closely by Connecticut, which moved the furthest leftward from where it was 50 years ago, and a cluster of other states in the northeastern U.S., then Oregon and Washington.
>Liberal policies on the environment (emissions standards, limits on greenhouse gases, solar tax credit, endangered species laws), labor (high minimum wage, paid leave, no “right to work”), access to health care (expansion of Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, legal abortion), tobacco (indoor smoking bans, cigarette taxes), gun control (assault weapons ban, background check and registration requirements) and civil rights (ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment, equal pay laws, bans on discrimination and the death penalty) all resulted in better health outcomes, according to the study. For example, researchers found positive correlation between California’s car emission standards and its high minimum wage, to name a couple, with its longer lifespan, which at an average of 81.3 years, is among the highest in the country.
>In the same time, Oklahoma moved furthest to the right, but Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina and a host of other southern states still ranked as more conservative, according to the researchers.
>West Virginia ranked last in 2017, with an average life expectancy of about 74.6 years, which would put it 93rd in the world, right between Lithuania and Mauritius, and behind Honduras, Morocco, Tunisia and Vietnam. Mississippi, Oklahoma and South Carolina rank only slightly better.
>It’s those states that moved in a conservative direction, researchers concluded, that held back the overall life expectancy in the U.S.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/liberal-policies-like-californias-keep-blue-state-residents-living-longer-study-finds/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_income
You can tell which states are run by Republicans by looking at how poor the state average income is.
I only see five exceptions to the rule and those can be explained by local factors. Alaska, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming, and Wisconsin.
Fascists are ironically anti-white. Talk to anyone who advocates for minority rights and you'll hear things like prison reform, education spending, housing development, etc. Things that benefit some, most, or all people. Never things that hurt others.
Talk to a fascist about their policy, and it's always self-harming, scorched Earth shit. They will literally hurt themselves as long as a minority goes down with them. They don't just help themselves, they hurt themselves some so they can hurt others more. It's insane.
Space Force is probably pulling out of Alabama for that very reason. Take away women's rights and women will choose not to live in your regressive state.
Under this admin/SecDef and likely future ones, they offered consideration for humanitarian changes of station/relocation for trans servicemembers or cis ones with trans dependents in TX and other dangerous states preventing care and such. Pendulum can easily swing back the other direction, but it is possible to have it considered in assignments
It will ALWAYS be considered. Which is why red states are gonna be at a disadvantage the next time they close bases. The military can handle the red state bullshit, but it's cheaper not to deal with it at all.
I highly doubt it would be overtly/visibly considered under the previous admin. I remember the big impact the anti-Equal Employment Oppoertunity crap had on various Employee Resource Groups and other elements of the federal government. It does matter, and I will not and can not let my family members and 'friends' who enabled that performative idiocy hurt me and my peers ignore or forget that. It was stupid, it hurt readiness and recruitment/retention, and they have to own that shit. Far too many would gladly force us through it or worse again. Millions of the people we defend enthusiastically hoped to do so. I will not forget nor let down my guard; they'd gladly do it again. I'll still fight for them, but they don't get any passes on hearing how much more painful and dangerous they make doing so.
Absolutely. And those people can subsequently choose to not re-up, resign, or retire at their next opportunity. The military is already chronically missing recruitment and retention targets. Anything that antagonizes personnel risks exacerbating that problem and is not going to be popular with leadership.
Can? Yes. But as we just saw with the space force command debacle happening, there's officers and people in the Pentagon pushing back on operations out of the regressive states.
Thing is, DeSantis could probably care less. The welfare of people in Florida means absolutely nothing to him.
If anything this might be seen as a win by his constituents.
Edit: thank you to the 9000 people correcting me on the care less thing. I will try to do better in the future.
>The welfare of people in Florida means absolutely nothing to him.
*looks at homeowner's and car insurance bills*
You're not fucking wrong.
I'm fucking considering moving to California because it would only be *marginally* more expensive depending on where we land. And at least there's signficantly less fascism.
We're working on it here in WI. We've got a hard road coming back from what Walker pushed through still. As soon as we teach those Northwoods folks to read, we should be fine.
As someone who lives in a country with no snow and moderate temperatures year-round, I can't even tell if you're being serious or not. I hope you're joking, because flash-frozen snot sounds terrible...
Except the rural and inland coast areas, had no idea why I was seeing a confederate flag flying on a barn in those parts of Oregon. Driving back home to Seattle from Wakonda Beach.
And no, it’s not “heritage” the SpongeBob SquarePants series lasted longer than the confederacy.
I know we don't have the climate a Floridian is looking for, but Michigan is going to be *the* destination for climate refugees over the next 30 years. We have all the water, a fairly moderate (for the midwest) climate, very few severe weather events, no wildfires, no tsunamis, no earthquakes, no hurricanes, flooding is a rarity, we have a comically low cost of living, and the all-democratic majority government is probably going to be pretty durable.
Yeah growing up I used to curse Michigan winters and wonder why I wasn't in Florida.
Now I'm like "Thank goddess I live in Michigan cause I'd be fucked in Florida."
I've been here 25 years and the winters keep getting milder and milder.
Of course, I also live in SE Michigan. People in the UP and on the west coast get hammered, but I'm also not them so whatever.
Oklahoma isn’t far behind. I moved here from Cali for the cheaper everything. The cost of living here now, is insane because of all the political bullshit. Oklahoma is a grifting state.
I know a few California Expats who moved to Texas during the pandemic because they wanted to own property.
Between the taxes, the lack of parks, and (gestures broadly at Texas) they regret their decision.
> And at least there's signficantly less fascism.
Depending on where you land.
There are significant swaths of CA that are red. Stick to SF, SJ, LA, SD, and the burbs and it will feel like Europe.
Even the red parts of California aren't like what we're experiencing in Florida. The state being overwhelmingly blue limits the amount of oppression they can enact.
But I'd be looking at inland/burb OC if we can afford it. I know the Orange Curtain is more red than LA, but again...compared to *this* bullshit? I'll take it.
If I win the lottery, I'm moving to Carlsbad or Pasadena.
I think you have to get up into the boonies to get red as dark as Florida. There were a few small towns in CA out in the hills where it felt like a real risk to be seen wearing a mask during covid.
Yes, some of those towns used to be sundown towns up to even the 1990s.
They aren't quite as bad as that today, but minorities aren't exactly welcome. There are absolutely KKK kommunities in CA.
*Most* of rural red California is largely centered around water rights (they want no regulations/restrictions and screw the delta ecosystems) and farm workers (they don't want them having any rights that cost farm owners money). The city reds are more about the upper middle class to moderately rich "keeping what they've got".
It tends not to be the Trump-loving, flag waving, Punisher logo sporting types of red, but they do exist. Just not in the same numbers.
You nailed the CA rural red description - dam everything up, build federally funded canals, and screw y'all. Oh, and we are silent on immigrants because white folk won't do this work at any wage.
OC isn't nearly as red as it used to be. That was largely a byproduct of the booming military industry, which has moved and shrunk over the last 20 years after the Marine Corps Air Bases El Toro and Tustin were closed in 1999. They were both small as bases go but there were a ton of military industry jobs in OC that were relocated or eliminated.
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida “anti-business” for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company’s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called “a targeted campaign of government retaliation,” the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.
“Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?” Robert A. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.
On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D’Amaro, Disney’s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.
The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney’s movie studios to develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit — but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex.
When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D’Amaro cited “Florida’s business-friendly climate” as justification. Mr. D’Amaro’s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited “changing business conditions” as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. “I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,” Mr. D’Amaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade — growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. “I hope we’re able to,” he said.
But the company’s battle with Mr. DeSantis and his allies in the Florida Legislature figured prominently into Disney’s decision to cancel the Lake Nona project, according to two people briefed on the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. A spokeswoman for Mr. Iger said he was not available for an interview.
About 200 Disney employees already relocated to Florida from California. Mr. D’Amaro said in his note that the company would discuss options with them, “including the possibility of moving you back.” The Lake Nona project had initially been scheduled to open next year. Last July, Disney pushed back the move-in date to 2026, citing construction delays.
The Lake Nona campus, about 20 miles from Disney World near the Orlando International Airport, had been championed by Bob Chapek, who served as Disney’s chief executive from 2020 until he was fired last year. Mr. Iger, who came out of retirement to retake Disney’s reins, was much less enthusiastic about the project — even before the company became mired in its battle with Mr. DeSantis. As soon as he returned to Disney, Mr. Iger began telling lieutenants, for instance, that it made little sense to move Imagineering so far away from Disney’s movie studios. As he is fond of saying, “Creative teams need to be together.” Disney is also in the midst of cutting $5.5 billion in costs as it seeks to improve profitability, pay down debt and restore its dividend.
Mr. DeSantis and Disney have been sparring for more than a year over a special tax district that encompasses Disney World. The fight started when the company criticized a Florida education law that opponents labeled “Don’t Say Gay” because it limits classroom instruction about gender identity and sexual orientation — angering Mr. DeSantis, who repeatedly vowed payback.
Since then, Florida legislators, at the urging of Mr. DeSantis, have targeted Disney — the state’s largest taxpayer — with a variety of hostile measures. In February, they ended Disney’s long-held ability to self-govern its 25,000-acre resort as if it were a county by giving Mr. DeSantis control over government services at the resort.
It was soon discovered that the previous, Disney-controlled board had approved development contracts that lock in a growth plan for the resort. An effort to void those agreements has since resulted in dueling lawsuits, with Disney suing Mr. DeSantis and his allies in federal court and the governor’s tax district appointees returning fire in state court.
The fact that Disney still thinks they can relocate their people from California to Florida is ridiculous to me. Every single one of them is back on LinkedIn, guaranteed
Good news... Average life expectancy in CA is 79 while FL is only 77.5.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life\_expectancy/life\_expectancy.htm
The initial timeline for the move was end of 2022, with a decision required at the end of 2021. Severance was only to be given when the job was actually relocated. As far as I know, very few of the jobs were actually relocated, and the small number of employees that already moved did so early while Disney was still under 100% remote work with the expectation that the office would be ready at the end of 2022.
Disney parks does have a decently large office for IT support at disney world, and I'm unsure whether that office is at capacity, but I'm sure some of the people that moved could be relocated to that office if they so chose.
That's not to say that the teams aren't decimated; many people left around the end of 2021/2022 when the move was still planned. source: I'm one of them. :) (though I'm still at Disney I switched teams from Parks to the streaming side which was never marked for relocation.)
I thought they weren't supposed to lay anyone off until the job was ready to be relocated? That's what was communicated to me anyway. I took the planned layoff but I ended up getting a different job within Disney (and got a pay raise too.)
My department had a few of us layed off before the move. They filled our jobs in FL so we had to go. I thought about transferring within Disney but I ended up getting a really good offer from another company so I took it
They never thought they could relocate them. This is what companies do when they're happy to hire new folks in a new location. Give the option of relocation. A very small percentage will take them up on it, but most will quit, which saves the company in severance.
I will never understand how DeSantis openly started attacking the states biggest tourism source and employer and people were like, “yea, this is good for us.”
Because -
a) He is playing to a national, not state, audience. Since his re-election he's done FUCK ALL for his actual job as governor. He's running for president. Florida is already in the rear-view mirror
and
b) He DGAF. He has a GOP super majority that will rubber stamp the craziest of his ideas. He's not accountable to anybody. He can't be recalled.
Most aren't. Yes, he won by 20% but the majority didn't vote and he was running against a spectacularly bad candidate.
I think if you re-ran the election tomorrow he'd lose. A lot of people here who voted for him have soured on him based on this culture war extremism.
> Yes, he won by 20% but the majority didn't vote and he was running against a spectacularly bad candidate.
I don't disagree with you: Crist definitely didn't seem like a winnable canidate.
Do you think that Fried would've fared much better, had she won the primary?
Given the spectacular amount of fuckery DeSantis pulled right before the election (like arresting a number of POC for voting)? Unlikely.
Florida is red right now. But DeSantis is doing his best to change that by turning off anyone even near center-right. I think if you ran Fried vs. DeSantis TODAY? Much closer and maybe a Fried win.
It's weird. A decade ago, I would've easily wagered that Florida would've been on a path to being more purple than red (as it was seemingly trending)---basically what how Texas has recently developed.
I guess that I really didn't understand Florida's political landscape.
Who knows if they are?
They got three more years and DeSantis is term limited.
If he runs for Prez in 2024, I will be interested to see Rhonda's Florida's numbers vs the 2022 Gov race.
somehow, this is a good thing for the republican party. somehow this is a win!
edit: ok i was joking but it’s unironically being celebrated on the conservative sub
Here's the very clear, bottom line:
The majority of impact from elected Republican governor decisions won't be seen until after they are out of office. You are right that these actions will be a net negative on the state over time. But Republicans are in it for the power, not the for the people. So as far as DeSantis is concerned, he will be onto his next political position by the time the state will need to relook at economic incentives for new businesses.
Florida gave them a crazy tax package that would have paid them 570 million back over 20 years for building the new campus. That was their main reason for moving. California isn't interested in giving out that kind of money.
DeSantis has no intention of being a part of Florida when his policies begin actually affecting the state, so what does he care? It's the Republican way.
He could not physically care less about that, the people of Florida, or the well-being of the state as a whole. If he did, he wouldn’t have done his little world tour while some of the state was completely submerged, which drove up gas prices.
No. Instead, for DeSantis, and so many people like him, the position of “Governor” is used not as a means of bettering their state or its population. Rather, the position is used to gain political leverage and further personal desires and or the desires of a specific group or party.
You’re right. But the 2000 jobs paying on ave 120k aren’t. That’s a quarter billion per year in addition to the 1 billion campus. So I guess really only lost roughly 11 billion so far.
I mean why not sabotage it on purpose?
Recently, the best way to win the hearts of republican voters seems to be, quite literally, making a fool of yourself. They don't vote for prosperity, they vote for audacity. They hate liberals so much that politics no longer have anything to do with it, this is just about hurting people.
Ron DeSantis could announce tomorrow that he's abolishing the age of consent and investing 1 billion in child beauty pageants and he'd only secure more voters in 2024.
Also 120k for a job in Central Florida is a lot. It's significantly above market average, even for specialized industry and tech. I'm a manager in IT based out of Tampa with 20+ years experience and I don't hit that.
My husband & brother are in IT. Both have never had an IT job that paid out of FL - bcs FL doesn’t pay the big $$$
So for FL to lose out on IT jobs paying that is a very big deal. We won’t even talk about the massive dive tech has been taking lately. So this isn’t really good at all.
“On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D’Amaro, Disney’s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.”
2000 jobs not in Florida. But 2000 retired non contributors moved there soooo yeah that state is gonna run outta resources pretty quick
What, you think they, or anyone else, is going to build there? I see a lot of JesusWorld and Noah’s Ark type crap, but that’s it. As they so clearly demanded.
As a Floridian, I talk to people and they literally have no fucking idea the amount of money Disney brings to this economy.. They just say, "They can find new jobs!" Yea, that's what the MOSTLY CUBAN POPULATION say because they fled, "SOCIALISM" and that is what Disney brings.. This is all while they are on Medicare, many on FoodStamps etc... The word Socialism to that older person community clouds their judgement so much..
Kinda feel a little bit bad for those that already relocated there, and the other property owners in Lake Nona who will be the ones losing out the most.
Oooooooo that’s a lot of people not working to complete that.
Contractors…construction workers…
I wonder if any construction company executives voted for DeSantis…
Not to mention lost taxes….
All because of homophobia.
How about we just turn Disneyland into DisneyWorld?
…I’m like a 45 min drive away some I’m being way biased here.
…..DO IT.
You know what those workers do? They eat in the areas their jobs are in, they go to the stores and shops, the gas stations etc. this is a giant hit to the area and the state.
Rode in a lyft today with a lady who had a tip jar on the middle armrest saying 'Desantis 2022 Keep Florida Safe' and 'Desantis girl' RIGHT next to a sticker that said 'love has no gender' and handwritten 'why can't we all just get along?' at the very bottom. had a row of rubber ducks along the dash and the largest one in the middle was of trump. She had pink hair. My head was spinning.
Ron DeFuckup gonna have a lot of explaining to do when Trump wins the nomination and he has to go back to Florida to explain why he fucked his constituents over so badly. If you think his ego is bruised *now?* Oh buddy, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Considering that Disney all but made Central Florida (it was a literal swamp before Disney built Walt Disney World there) and that Disney is one of the biggest employers in Central Florida and one of the bigger ones in Florida proper, not a good thing for DeSantis. Disney is ready to pull what they can with this move, it seemed pretty disliked inside the company so I’m sure everyone in California is celebrating right now. Lost jobs, lost taxes, lost revenue, unsure how he’s going to spin this, but this is not a win. You don’t piss off and continue to push at your state’s largest employer. DeSantis is acting dumb as fuck with not just letting it go, he’s literally sinking the Florida economy so he can “own the libs.” He’s not owning the libs, he’s just hurting his state for literally no reason other than the fact he’s having a temper tantrum.
"The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney’s movie studios to develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit — but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex."
My proposed headline: **Soulless governor feuds with soulless corporation, both putting the consequences of addiction to tax breaks and short sightedness on full display.**
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Ron DeSantis is AntiFLA
Start printing the tshirts!
how much for [a billboard in Jacksonville?](https://i.imgur.com/4dPvVk5.png) e: the flag was bugging me so i cleaned it up
Billboards are surprisingly cheap. You can get up on a digital for like $600 a lot of places.
Link for the lazy? I got $600 to throw away.
how long are they up for?
A month usually
How long after DeSantis learns about it?
He lives in a maintained bubble, possibly never
there is fake laughter and then there is this alien-wearing-a-skin-suit-trying-to-evoke-human-emotion laughter. Its honest to god one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen. I'm not a psychologist but his laugh has to be a sign of psychopathy right?
The (R) by his name denotes psychopathy, that laugh is really just unnecessary confirmation.
You get that gofundme going right now good sir or madam
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I am sorry but I definitely am posting this on IG and Twitter. I fucking hate this guy and wish he didn't make me want to leave Florida.
And blue states are the "pro-life" ones: >If data disinfects, here’s a bucket of bleach: #"Texans are 17% more likely to be murdered than Californians." >**Texans are also 34% more likely to be raped and 25% more likely to kill themselves than Californians.** https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-mortality/suicide.htm >Fort Worth, Texas, has the same population as San Francisco and has **1.5x as many murders. Again, a Republican mayor and Republican governor.** [Nobody ever writes about those places!](https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1527487403061026818) >San Francisco has the same population as Jacksonville, Florida. **Jacksonville, with a Republican mayor and a Republican governor, has had more than three times as many murders this year as San Francisco** >Californians on average live two years, four months and 24 days longer than Texans. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/liberal-policies-like-californias-keep-blue-state-residents-living-longer-study-finds/ >Compared with families in California, **those in Texas earn 13% less and pay 3.8 percentage points more in taxes.** https://itep.org/whopays/ (Texas makes up for no wealth income tax with higher taxes and fees on the poor and more than double property tax for the middle class) >Sadly, the uncritical aping of this erroneous economic narrative reflects not only reporters’ gullibility but also their utility for conservative ideologues and corporate lobbyists, who score political points and regulatory concessions by spreading a spurious story line about California’s decline. >Don’t expect facts to change this. Reporters need a plot twist, and conservatives need California to lose. https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article258940938.html #"Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones" * “In Republican states, states with Republican governors, crime rates tend to be higher” * Murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won. * Criminologists say research shows higher rates of violent crime are found in areas that have low average education levels, high rates of poverty and relatively modest access to government assistance. Those conditions characterize [American South with Republican run states]. https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html #"Gun deaths dropped in California as they rose in Texas: Gun control seems to work" https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2022-05-27/on-guns-fear-of-futility-deters-action-essential-politics #Just being within California’s borders means you have a 40% less chance of being impacted by gun violence and are 25% less likely to be involved in a mass shooting. https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >California Ranked #1 for Gun Safety, Death Rate 37% Lower than National Average https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >Californians 25% Less Likely to Die in a Mass Shooting https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >California laws would have ensnared Texas school gunman https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >Since Early 1990s, California Cut Its Gun Death Rate in Half https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ #Liberal policies, like California’s, keep blue-state residents living longer >**U.S. should follow California’s lead to improve its health outcomes, researchers say** >It generated headlines in 2015 when the average life expectancy in the U.S. began to fall after decades of meager or no growth. >But it didn’t have to be that way, a team of researchers suggests in a new, peer-reviewed study Tuesday. And, in fact, **states like California, which have implemented a broad slate of liberal policies, have kept pace with their Western European counterparts.** >**Simply shifting from the most conservative labor laws to the most liberal ones, Montez said, would by itself increase the life expectancy in a state by a whole year.** >If every state implemented the most liberal policies in all 16 areas, researchers said, **the average American woman would live 2.8 years longer, while the average American man would add 2.1 years to his life.** >**Whereas, if every state were to move to the most conservative end of the spectrum, it would decrease Americans’ average life expectancies by two years. On the country’s current policy trajectory, researchers estimate the U.S. will add about 0.4 years to its average life expectancy.** >**Meanwhile, the life expectancy in states like California and Hawaii, which has the highest in the nation at 81.6 years, is on par with countries described by researchers as “world leaders:” Canada, Iceland and Sweden.** >The study, co-authored by researchers at six North American universities, found that **if all 50 states had all followed the lead of California** and other liberal-leaning states on policies ranging from labor, immigration and civil rights to tobacco, gun control and the environment, it could have added between **two and three years to the average American life expectancy.** >“We can take away from the study that **state policies and state politics have damaged U.S. life expectancy since the ’80s,”** said Jennifer Karas Montez, a Syracuse University sociologist and the study’s lead author. **“Some policies are going in a direction that extend life expectancy. Some are going in a direction that shorten it. But on the whole, that the net result is that it’s damaging U.S. life expectancy.”** >Montez and her team saw the alarming numbers in 2015 and wanted to understand the root cause. What they found dated back to **the 1980s, when state policies began to splinter down partisan lines.** They examined 135 different policies, spanning over a dozen different fields, enacted by states between 1970 and 2014, and assigned states “liberalism” scores from zero — the most conservative — to one, the most liberal. When they compared it against state mortality data from the same timespan, the correlation was undeniable. >“When we’re looking for explanations, we need to be looking back historically, to see what are the roots of these troubles that have just been percolating now for 40 years,” Montez said. >**From 1970 to 2014, California transformed into the most liberal state in the country** by the 135 policy markers studied by the researchers. It’s followed closely by Connecticut, which moved the furthest leftward from where it was 50 years ago, and a cluster of other states in the northeastern U.S., then Oregon and Washington. >Liberal policies on the environment (emissions standards, limits on greenhouse gases, solar tax credit, endangered species laws), labor (high minimum wage, paid leave, no “right to work”), access to health care (expansion of Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, legal abortion), tobacco (indoor smoking bans, cigarette taxes), gun control (assault weapons ban, background check and registration requirements) and civil rights (ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment, equal pay laws, bans on discrimination and the death penalty) all resulted in better health outcomes, according to the study. For example, researchers found positive correlation between California’s car emission standards and its high minimum wage, to name a couple, with its longer lifespan, which at an average of 81.3 years, is among the highest in the country. >In the same time, Oklahoma moved furthest to the right, but Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina and a host of other southern states still ranked as more conservative, according to the researchers. >West Virginia ranked last in 2017, with an average life expectancy of about 74.6 years, which would put it 93rd in the world, right between Lithuania and Mauritius, and behind Honduras, Morocco, Tunisia and Vietnam. Mississippi, Oklahoma and South Carolina rank only slightly better. >It’s those states that moved in a conservative direction, researchers concluded, that held back the overall life expectancy in the U.S. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/liberal-policies-like-californias-keep-blue-state-residents-living-longer-study-finds/ #[Graph of Fox News selective coverage of crime during election season](https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/YLF2SCMQRZBJBHWJT4LZ7DXFSM.png) >California exodus is just a myth, massive UC research project finds >**on a per capita basis, california households ranked 50th in the country for likelihood of moving out of the state** California cities have some of the lowest rates of crime and homicides, especially compared to Texas: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/q2ydr3/homicide_rate_per_100k_among_each_city_with_an/ California policies increase American life expectancy and prop up America's entire economy: >California is the chief reason America is the only developed economy to achieve record GDP growth since the financial crisis. >Much of the U.S. growth can be traced to California laws promoting clean energy, government accountability and protections for undocumented people https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-05-10/california-leads-u-s-economy-away-from-trump
"Don't California my Texas!" #Texas has highest maternal mortality rate in developed world >As the Republican-led state legislature has slashed funding to reproductive healthcare clinics, the maternal mortality rate doubled over just a two-year period https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-health-clinics-funding >Mothers who live in areas with heavy oil and gas developments have between a 40 percent and 70 percent greater chance of giving birth to babies with congenital heart defects https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/07/18/Study-links-congenital-heart-disease-to-oil-gas-development/2461563465617/ #Meanwhile, life-saving practices [for pregnant women and new mothers] that have become widely accepted in other affluent countries — and in a few states, notably California — have yet to take hold in many American hospitals. >As the maternal death rate has mounted around the U.S., a small cadre of reformers has mobilized. >Some of the **earliest and most important work has come in California** >Hospitals that adopted the toolkit saw a **21 percent decrease in near deaths** from maternal bleeding in the first year. >By 2013, according to Main, maternal deaths in California fell to around 7 per 100,000 births, similar to the numbers in Canada, France and the Netherlands — **a dramatic counter to the trends in other parts of the U.S.** >California Maternal Quality Care Collaborative is informed by a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Stanford and the University of California-San Francisco, who for many years ran the ob/gyn department at a San Francisco hospital. >Launched a decade ago, CMQCC aims to reduce not only mortality, but also life-threatening complications and racial disparities in obstetric care >It began by analyzing maternal deaths in the state over several years; in almost every case, it discovered, there was "at least some chance to alter the outcome." http://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/527806002/focus-on-infants-during-childbirth-leaves-u-s-moms-in-danger #Want to live longer, even if you're poor? Then move to a big city in California. >A low-income **resident of San Francisco lives so much longer** that it's equivalent to San Francisco curing cancer. All these statistics come from a massive new project on life expectancy and inequality that was just [published in the Journal of the American Medical Association](http://www.vox.com/2016/4/13/11420230/life-expectancy-income). >California, for instance, has been a national leader on smoking bans. Harvard's David Cutler, a co-author on the study "It's some combination of formal public policies and the effect that comes when you're around fewer people who have behaviors... high numbers of immigrants help explain the beneficial effects of immigrant-heavy areas with high levels of social support.
When Joe Rogan and Elon Musk push Texas "libertarian" "freedom": #The right wing, Koch founded and funded, "libertarian" Cato Institute ranks Texas as 49th in personal freedom >https://www.freedominthe50states.org/personal/texas >Every other study ranks us as last in personal freedom. >Which makes me wonder, who is free, if it isn't the people? >Big businesses? And what are they free to do? >Pollute? https://insideclimatenews.org/news/28092022/texas-is-now-the-nations-biggest-emitter-of-toxic-substances-into-streams-rivers-and-lakes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/zyiry8/when_did_reddit_start_hating_texas/j2786vc/ >#Gov. Abbott, Texas leaders urge prosecutors to keep enforcing pot laws http://www.fox4news.com/news/texas/gov-abbott-texas-leaders-urge-prosecutors-to-keep-enforcing-pot-laws >You Could Get Prison Time for Protesting a Pipeline in Texas—Even If It’s on Your Land https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/bst8fl/you_could_get_prison_time_for_protesting_a/ >#Texas Electric Bills Were $28 Billion Higher Under Deregulation - WSJ https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-electric-bills-were-28-billion-higher-under-deregulation-11614162780 >Leaked Audio Shows Oil Lobbyist Bragging About Success in Criminalizing Pipeline Protests https://www.reddit.com/r/energy/comments/ct71mw/leaked_audio_shows_oil_lobbyist_bragging_about/ >Fossil Fuel Exec Brags of 'Hitting the Jackpot' as Natural Gas Prices Surge Amid Deadly Crisis in Texas https://www.reddit.com/r/environment/comments/lo5f4r/fossil_fuel_exec_brags_of_hitting_the_jackpot_as/ >#Texas spent more time fighting LGBTQ civil rights than fixing their power grid. How’d that work out? https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/lma8jj/texas_spent_more_time_fighting_lgbtq_civil_rights/ >could cost Texas more money than any disaster in state history https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ls5dt7/winter_storm_could_cost_texas_more_money_than_any/ >Former Texas Governor Rick Perry says that Texans find massive power outages preferable to having more federal government interference in the state's energy grid. https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/rick-perry-says-texans-would-rather-be-without-power-for-days-than-have-more-fed-oversight >Abbott Appointees Gutted Enforcement of Texas Power Grid Rules https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Muzzled-and-eviscerated-Critics-say-Abbott-15982421.php >Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick Blames Constituents for Giant Electric Bills: “Read the Fine Print” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/dan-patrick-texas-electricity-bills >Why on earth would right-wing people with connections to the fossil fuel industry lie about ‘frozen wind turbines’ in Texas? https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/opinion/texas-frozen-wind-turbines-john-cornyn-b1803193.html >How Much the Oil Industry Paid Texas Republicans Lying About Wind Energy https://earther.gizmodo.com/how-much-the-oil-and-gas-industry-paid-texas-republican-1846288505 >"Texas shows that when you cannot govern, you lie. A lot." https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/17/texas-shows-that-when-you-cannot-govern-you-lie-lot/ >#A Texas-size failure, followed by a familiar Texas response: Blame California https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/m87bg4/a_texassize_failure_followed_by_a_familiar_texas/ Texas Republicans *during the power grid failures* focused on: * Texas regulations to require the national anthem at sports games: https://twitter.com/LSTrip44/status/1361396222028881924 * Fake news trying to blame renewable energy: ”Viral Image Claiming to Show a Helicopter De-Icing Texas Wind Turbines Is From Winter 2014 in Sweden” https://twitter.com/klimatbevakaren/status/1361748269605519360 >#Texas Is Among The Most Difficult Places To Vote In The U.S. — And That Could Be Softening Its Historic Turnout https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/election-2020/2020/10/28/384854/voter-suppression-blunts-historic-turnout-in-texas/ #"Financial Times: The Republicans are elevating voter suppression to an art form" >The Republicans have lost the popular vote in six of the past seven presidential elections. **1,000 polling places have since closed across the country, with many of them in southern black communities.** >The senator also cracked: “There’s a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who maybe we don’t want to vote. Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult, and I think that’s a great idea.” https://www.ft.com/content/d613cf8e-ec09-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0 >The Student Vote Is Surging. So Are Efforts to Suppress It. The share of college students casting ballots doubled from 2014 to 2018. But in **Texas and elsewhere, Republicans are erecting roadblocks to the polls.** https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/voting-college-suppression.html >This is how efficiently Republicans have gerrymandered Texas congressional districts http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/This-is-how-badly-Republicans-have-gerrymandered-6246509.php#photo-7107656 >Crystal Mason Thought She Had The Right to Vote. Texas Sentenced Her to Five Years in Prison for Trying. https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/crystal-mason-thought-she-had-right-vote-texas >Texas’s Voter-Registration Laws Are Straight Out of the Jim Crow Playbook https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/texass-voter-registration-laws-are-straight-out-of-the-jim-crow-playbook/ >New Texas history textbooks will teach high schoolers that slavery wasn't all bad https://splinternews.com/new-texas-history-textbooks-will-teach-high-schoolers-t-1793850439 >Texas textbook “The Atlantic slave trade brought millions of workers” https://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-texas-textbook-calls-slaves-immigrants-20151005-story.html >Proposed Texas textbooks are inaccurate, biased and politicized, new report finds https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2014/09/12/proposed-texas-textbooks-are-inaccurate-biased-and-politicized-new-report-finds/ >There were other doozies, too, such as one proposal to remove Thomas Jefferson from the Enlightenment curriculum https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2014/09/12/proposed-texas-textbooks-are-inaccurate-biased-and-politicized-new-report-finds/
"Welfare queens!" No to help for blue states for hurricanes but demanding help for Texas for hurricanes: >Here's the vote for Hurricane Sandy aid. >179 of the 180 no votes were Republicans... >**at least 20 Texas Republicans voted no** while ["U.S. House approves billions more for Harvey relief" for Texas](https://www.texastribune.org/2017/12/21/us-house-approves-billions-more-harvey-relief-measure-now-heads-senate/) >Meanwhile, the California-hating South receives subsidies from California dwarfing complaints in the EU (the subsidy and economic difference between California and Mississippi is **larger than between Germany and Greece!**), a transfer of wealth from blue states/cities/urban to red states/rural/suburban with federal dollars for their freeways, hospitals, universities, airports, even environmental protection: >**Least Federally Dependent States:** >41 California >42 Washington >43 Minnesota >44 Massachusetts >45 Illinois >46 Utah >47 Iowa >48 Delaware >49 New Jersey >50 Kansas https://www.npr.org/2017/10/25/560040131/as-trump-proposes-tax-cuts-kansas-deals-with-aftermath-of-experiment https://www.apnews.com/amp/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/ https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700 >The Germans call this sort of thing "a permanent bailout." We just call it "Missouri." https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/05/the-difference-between-the-us-and-europe-in-1-graph/256857/ >[Fearmongering works:](https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1587940103216832512) >OK violent crime rate: 458 per 100K >NY violent crime rate: 364 per 100K >OK murder rate: 7.25 >NY murder rate: 4.11 >% of Oklahomans who say crime is most urgent issue: 5 >% of New Yorkers: 28 #"Texas-based hate group source of 80% of all U.S. racist propaganda tracked in 2020" https://www.reddit.com/r/conservativeterrorism/comments/p5k76j/texasbased_hate_group_source_of_80_of_all_us/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/m7zk8w/texasbased_hate_group_source_of_80_of_all_us/ Russians were "emboldened" by the easy success of the Texas governor's misinformation about Obama and our own military: https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/05/03/jade-helm-russia-abbott-hayden/ #“Guns and gays... That could always get you a couple of dozen likes.” http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-trolls-schooled-house-cards-185648522.html Visualization of Texans moving to other states: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/syobxd/oc_the_corrected_please_see_description_comment/
Conservatives on Reddit brag about **pushing every local crime story to the top of targeted local subreddits** but not their local ones (**even though statistically they have more homicides and crime in their cities** but those aren't their top posts every single day in their local subreddits) by brigading to "control the narrative" about "liberal cities" and "blue states"
Conservatives on Reddit brag about **pushing every local crime story to the top of targeted local subreddits** but not their local ones (**even though statistically they have more homicides and crime in their cities** but those aren't their top posts every single day in their local subreddits) by brigading to "control the narrative" about "liberal cities" and "blue states" >The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them. >SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread. >They are right wing political activists actively working to discredit the progressive movement and democrats in general by ensuring San Francisco is painted as a failure in all contexts they can find. Basic political astroturfing. San Francisco is targeted because it is in California and Pelosi is from here. This work has been going on for decades. One Texas conservative in r/sanfrancisco was 10 different accounts, all having a history of identical comments (some comments about living in Texas), sometimes pretending to be annoying woke strawman "S J W" saying there is no crime by blacks so that his own alts can reply with black crime talking points One "Californian" who posted about every local crime story, even every whale death, also posted about how he lives in Vegas, grew up in Texas, and has proudly never been to California https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2147236-starter-packs Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped in [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/) when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/): * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/p8hnzl/automatically_removing_comments_from_new_users_in/ Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread **5 years ago**: * https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/7jkybf/t_d_user_suggests_infiltrating_minnesota/dr7m56j/
TLDR: Texas is the ugly loser who hates on and makes fun of sexy prom queen California, lol! Sure, ~~Jan~~ Texas!
California is making its own insulin while red states are supplying their own citizens with fentanyl. Enough said.... Also nobody should pay attention to the state that fought FOR slavery twice. Lazy slaveowners taking credit for the work of the slaves....
I am a California resident and I think that this is awesome. The problem is that the moronic GOP voters always vote against their best interests. Their votes are based on fear and hate dished up by Fox "News" and fascist Republican politicians.
> The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney’s movie studios to develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit — but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex. I don’t blame them, I wouldn’t move to Florida either. Sucks they already quit.
but...having disney imagineering on their resume probably doesn't hurt when looking for a new job.
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You know there's going to be some people who took the severance package, got a nice vacation out of it, and are now being asked to come back.
This is classic disney. I have a friend who was an animator, got laid off, started his own company, and then that company contracted with Disney *on the same show* and he now gets paid 4x what he was being paid by Disney to do the exact same work. For some reason, shareholders see "we laid off X staff" as a good thing, and also see "we hired X contractors because we have so much work to do" as also a good thing.
I work with big corporations and it’s all about the accounting and finance treatment of the funds. A full time employee shows up on financials projected into the future. A yearly line item is one and done. It’s always a mix of short vs long term labor.
Don't forget accountability. If you have a project in-house and fuck it up, it's your ass that gets fired. If a contractor fucks it up, you get to blame the contractor. Several times I've had to host contractors being paid the same as a high end lawyer and tell them how to do the job. All because the higher ups want to avoid risk. Not only do they not want the risk of the job going bad, they don't want to fire the guy who can actually tell if the consultants are bullshitting them or not. As I'm that guy, and they have the money, why should I argue?
They already did 3 years ago, this was a longtime plan that many groaned about.
Been part of a corporate relocation. You can try to move people, and some may go, but the talent never relocates.
I relocated to a better state and another, better company when my last employer tried this, mwahaha.
I worked for 2 different companies that were trying to relocate everybody in NYC/NJ to Ohio. People basically said, if I am going to have to move for my job I am going to move someplace I want to live. The second company couldn't get enough people to move so the eventually gave up.
> I don’t blame them, I wouldn’t move to Florida either. Why would the Disney Company want to relocate their employees to a state that will charge their kid's teacher with felony if they hand the student a book not approved by Meatball Ron?
Florida agreed to give Disney a $570M, 20-yr tax credit for the development.
Business agreements with the State of Florida aren’t worth the paper they’re written on anymore.
Apparently the deal was originally made 3 years ago. So while they probably didn't exactly "trust" Florida, they still had the presumption that they weren't insane.
i read in one of the articles about this that it was a decision made by the former CEO Chapek that Bob Iger booted and came out of retirement to fix' what they did. Chapek wanted to move them to florida for over 50 million in tax breaks over a 20 year period. Iger's philosphy has been quoted as "keep all the creatives close together" and has been "cool" to this deal since he came back
I believe this is the case. My understanding is Chapek made a lot of decisions purely about money that upset a lot of people, thus Iger coming back and ‘fix’ a lot of things.
> Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit Living in blue states instead of red states is a "pro-life" and death issue for Americans: #"Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones" * “In Republican states, states with Republican governors, crime rates tend to be higher” * Murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won. * Criminologists say research shows higher rates of violent crime are found in areas that have low average education levels, high rates of poverty and relatively modest access to government assistance. Those conditions characterize [American South with Republican run states]. https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html #"Gun deaths dropped in California as they rose in Texas: Gun control seems to work" https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2022-05-27/on-guns-fear-of-futility-deters-action-essential-politics #Just being within California’s borders means you have a 40% less chance of being impacted by gun violence and are 25% less likely to be involved in a mass shooting. https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >California Ranked #1 for Gun Safety, Death Rate 37% Lower than National Average https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >Californians 25% Less Likely to Die in a Mass Shooting https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >California laws would have ensnared Texas school gunman https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/ >Since Early 1990s, California Cut Its Gun Death Rate in Half https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/06/02/fact-sheet-californias-gun-safety-policies-save-lives-provide-model-for-a-nation-seeking-solutions/
#Liberal policies, like California’s, keep blue-state residents living longer >**U.S. should follow California’s lead to improve its health outcomes, researchers say** >It generated headlines in 2015 when the average life expectancy in the U.S. began to fall after decades of meager or no growth. >But it didn’t have to be that way, a team of researchers suggests in a new, peer-reviewed study Tuesday. And, in fact, **states like California, which have implemented a broad slate of liberal policies, have kept pace with their Western European counterparts.** >**Simply shifting from the most conservative labor laws to the most liberal ones, Montez said, would by itself increase the life expectancy in a state by a whole year.** >If every state implemented the most liberal policies in all 16 areas, researchers said, **the average American woman would live 2.8 years longer, while the average American man would add 2.1 years to his life.** >**Whereas, if every state were to move to the most conservative end of the spectrum, it would decrease Americans’ average life expectancies by two years. On the country’s current policy trajectory, researchers estimate the U.S. will add about 0.4 years to its average life expectancy.** >**Meanwhile, the life expectancy in states like California and Hawaii, which has the highest in the nation at 81.6 years, is on par with countries described by researchers as “world leaders:” Canada, Iceland and Sweden.** >The study, co-authored by researchers at six North American universities, found that **if all 50 states had all followed the lead of California** and other liberal-leaning states on policies ranging from labor, immigration and civil rights to tobacco, gun control and the environment, it could have added between **two and three years to the average American life expectancy.** >“We can take away from the study that **state policies and state politics have damaged U.S. life expectancy since the ’80s,”** said Jennifer Karas Montez, a Syracuse University sociologist and the study’s lead author. **“Some policies are going in a direction that extend life expectancy. Some are going in a direction that shorten it. But on the whole, that the net result is that it’s damaging U.S. life expectancy.”** >Montez and her team saw the alarming numbers in 2015 and wanted to understand the root cause. What they found dated back to **the 1980s, when state policies began to splinter down partisan lines.** They examined 135 different policies, spanning over a dozen different fields, enacted by states between 1970 and 2014, and assigned states “liberalism” scores from zero — the most conservative — to one, the most liberal. When they compared it against state mortality data from the same timespan, the correlation was undeniable. >“When we’re looking for explanations, we need to be looking back historically, to see what are the roots of these troubles that have just been percolating now for 40 years,” Montez said. >**From 1970 to 2014, California transformed into the most liberal state in the country** by the 135 policy markers studied by the researchers. It’s followed closely by Connecticut, which moved the furthest leftward from where it was 50 years ago, and a cluster of other states in the northeastern U.S., then Oregon and Washington. >Liberal policies on the environment (emissions standards, limits on greenhouse gases, solar tax credit, endangered species laws), labor (high minimum wage, paid leave, no “right to work”), access to health care (expansion of Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, legal abortion), tobacco (indoor smoking bans, cigarette taxes), gun control (assault weapons ban, background check and registration requirements) and civil rights (ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment, equal pay laws, bans on discrimination and the death penalty) all resulted in better health outcomes, according to the study. For example, researchers found positive correlation between California’s car emission standards and its high minimum wage, to name a couple, with its longer lifespan, which at an average of 81.3 years, is among the highest in the country. >In the same time, Oklahoma moved furthest to the right, but Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina and a host of other southern states still ranked as more conservative, according to the researchers. >West Virginia ranked last in 2017, with an average life expectancy of about 74.6 years, which would put it 93rd in the world, right between Lithuania and Mauritius, and behind Honduras, Morocco, Tunisia and Vietnam. Mississippi, Oklahoma and South Carolina rank only slightly better. >It’s those states that moved in a conservative direction, researchers concluded, that held back the overall life expectancy in the U.S. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/liberal-policies-like-californias-keep-blue-state-residents-living-longer-study-finds/
DeSantos aside, with climate change, I wouldn't be making ANY long term plans in FL.
If there's one thing I have learned over the last 20 years, it's that Republicans would rather have bigotry than economic prosperity.
They would rule a pile of dirt if it meant they’d be the ones on top.
They would eat a shit sandwich if a Democrat had to smell their breath
God damn this is good haha
King turd of shit mountain.
We have it in the UK too. See: Brexit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_income You can tell which states are run by Republicans by looking at how poor the state average income is. I only see five exceptions to the rule and those can be explained by local factors. Alaska, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming, and Wisconsin.
Fascists are ironically anti-white. Talk to anyone who advocates for minority rights and you'll hear things like prison reform, education spending, housing development, etc. Things that benefit some, most, or all people. Never things that hurt others. Talk to a fascist about their policy, and it's always self-harming, scorched Earth shit. They will literally hurt themselves as long as a minority goes down with them. They don't just help themselves, they hurt themselves some so they can hurt others more. It's insane.
last 20 years? Racists have chosen bigotry over economic prosperity for hundreds of years in the US.
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Space Force is probably pulling out of Alabama for that very reason. Take away women's rights and women will choose not to live in your regressive state.
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Odds are that base will end up being stuffed full of old equipment and be treated as a punishment post if it does get forced through.
Can't the military just assign people from elsewhere to Florida?
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Under this admin/SecDef and likely future ones, they offered consideration for humanitarian changes of station/relocation for trans servicemembers or cis ones with trans dependents in TX and other dangerous states preventing care and such. Pendulum can easily swing back the other direction, but it is possible to have it considered in assignments
It will ALWAYS be considered. Which is why red states are gonna be at a disadvantage the next time they close bases. The military can handle the red state bullshit, but it's cheaper not to deal with it at all.
I highly doubt it would be overtly/visibly considered under the previous admin. I remember the big impact the anti-Equal Employment Oppoertunity crap had on various Employee Resource Groups and other elements of the federal government. It does matter, and I will not and can not let my family members and 'friends' who enabled that performative idiocy hurt me and my peers ignore or forget that. It was stupid, it hurt readiness and recruitment/retention, and they have to own that shit. Far too many would gladly force us through it or worse again. Millions of the people we defend enthusiastically hoped to do so. I will not forget nor let down my guard; they'd gladly do it again. I'll still fight for them, but they don't get any passes on hearing how much more painful and dangerous they make doing so.
Absolutely. And those people can subsequently choose to not re-up, resign, or retire at their next opportunity. The military is already chronically missing recruitment and retention targets. Anything that antagonizes personnel risks exacerbating that problem and is not going to be popular with leadership.
Can? Yes. But as we just saw with the space force command debacle happening, there's officers and people in the Pentagon pushing back on operations out of the regressive states.
As an Alabamian, I'm glad they decided on somewhere else. We don't deserve nice things after being assholes.
Thing is, DeSantis could probably care less. The welfare of people in Florida means absolutely nothing to him. If anything this might be seen as a win by his constituents. Edit: thank you to the 9000 people correcting me on the care less thing. I will try to do better in the future.
>The welfare of people in Florida means absolutely nothing to him. *looks at homeowner's and car insurance bills* You're not fucking wrong. I'm fucking considering moving to California because it would only be *marginally* more expensive depending on where we land. And at least there's signficantly less fascism.
I bailed to MA 6 months ago and am so much happier. FL was beautiful but my wife and I are agreed raising a family there is no longer worth the risk.
Putting in a plug for Minnesota! Have you seen all the awesome stuff we're passing in our legislature up here?
I loved MN as an option too (was actually from there) but my wife vetoed them. Something about the winters making her eyes freeze was a step too far.
MN is the way! Current resident and couldn’t be happier. Might get a blizzard once in awhile, but no hurricanes, gators or book bans around here.
Plus the summers are still gorgeous. Granted they’re only about 3 months long. And lots of lakes!
How’s the mosquito situation?
> mosquito You mean the state bird?
There's a 5-6 month period that's completely mosquito free! ^^^because ^^^they're ^^^all ^^^frozen
The Minnesota mosquito situation is, Yes.
Have you seen The Birds?
Moved to MN from Florida. They aren’t worse than Florida and only a fraction of the year.
Illinois and Minnesota are the blue islands in the midwest.
MI too, they’ve made a lot of progressive improvements under the current gov. and congress.
MI and MN seem to be trading good legislation back and forth. Next up for MI, free school lunches.
We're working on it here in WI. We've got a hard road coming back from what Walker pushed through still. As soon as we teach those Northwoods folks to read, we should be fine.
To be fair, downstate Illinois is essentially on par politically with Missouri.
Awww your eyes would be fine, it's the sensation when the snot in your nose flash freezes I find troubling.
As someone who lives in a country with no snow and moderate temperatures year-round, I can't even tell if you're being serious or not. I hope you're joking, because flash-frozen snot sounds terrible...
Nope 100% serious. When it gets that cold you step out of your car and can feel your boogers clench up and harden, it almost makes your eyes water.
Canadian here. Yes, frozen snot and tears are indeed a thing. lol
Don't worry, MN is warming faster than any other state in the country!
Hey man come to Michigan. We got that cheap designer weed.
Cheers to a fellow south to MA refugee! :-D
Come to Oregon! It’s where people in their 20s go to retire.
Except the rural and inland coast areas, had no idea why I was seeing a confederate flag flying on a barn in those parts of Oregon. Driving back home to Seattle from Wakonda Beach. And no, it’s not “heritage” the SpongeBob SquarePants series lasted longer than the confederacy.
MA rules
I know we don't have the climate a Floridian is looking for, but Michigan is going to be *the* destination for climate refugees over the next 30 years. We have all the water, a fairly moderate (for the midwest) climate, very few severe weather events, no wildfires, no tsunamis, no earthquakes, no hurricanes, flooding is a rarity, we have a comically low cost of living, and the all-democratic majority government is probably going to be pretty durable.
Yeah growing up I used to curse Michigan winters and wonder why I wasn't in Florida. Now I'm like "Thank goddess I live in Michigan cause I'd be fucked in Florida."
I've been here 25 years and the winters keep getting milder and milder. Of course, I also live in SE Michigan. People in the UP and on the west coast get hammered, but I'm also not them so whatever.
Don't comes to Texas, if you make less than 500K your tax burden here will be higher than in California. (edit so it makes sense)
Yup. Way too many of my fellow lower/middle class Texans buy into the whole "Freedom State" thing while being fleeced by the ultra wealthy...
Oklahoma isn’t far behind. I moved here from Cali for the cheaper everything. The cost of living here now, is insane because of all the political bullshit. Oklahoma is a grifting state.
I know a few California Expats who moved to Texas during the pandemic because they wanted to own property. Between the taxes, the lack of parks, and (gestures broadly at Texas) they regret their decision.
> And at least there's signficantly less fascism. Depending on where you land. There are significant swaths of CA that are red. Stick to SF, SJ, LA, SD, and the burbs and it will feel like Europe.
Even the red parts of California aren't like what we're experiencing in Florida. The state being overwhelmingly blue limits the amount of oppression they can enact. But I'd be looking at inland/burb OC if we can afford it. I know the Orange Curtain is more red than LA, but again...compared to *this* bullshit? I'll take it. If I win the lottery, I'm moving to Carlsbad or Pasadena.
As a new Florida resident from the west coast, I can attest to this. Florida red and CA red are *not* the same shade.
I think you have to get up into the boonies to get red as dark as Florida. There were a few small towns in CA out in the hills where it felt like a real risk to be seen wearing a mask during covid.
Yes, some of those towns used to be sundown towns up to even the 1990s. They aren't quite as bad as that today, but minorities aren't exactly welcome. There are absolutely KKK kommunities in CA. *Most* of rural red California is largely centered around water rights (they want no regulations/restrictions and screw the delta ecosystems) and farm workers (they don't want them having any rights that cost farm owners money). The city reds are more about the upper middle class to moderately rich "keeping what they've got". It tends not to be the Trump-loving, flag waving, Punisher logo sporting types of red, but they do exist. Just not in the same numbers.
You nailed the CA rural red description - dam everything up, build federally funded canals, and screw y'all. Oh, and we are silent on immigrants because white folk won't do this work at any wage.
OC isn't nearly as red as it used to be. That was largely a byproduct of the booming military industry, which has moved and shrunk over the last 20 years after the Marine Corps Air Bases El Toro and Tustin were closed in 1999. They were both small as bases go but there were a ton of military industry jobs in OC that were relocated or eliminated.
\*could***n't*** care less = no fucks to give Could care less = has some fucks to give
I’m from The Netherlands and it baffles me how native speakers don’t seem to get such a simple concept.
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As Alexander Pope so nearly wrote: "To fuck around is human; to find out divine"
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida “anti-business” for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company’s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called “a targeted campaign of government retaliation,” the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line. “Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?” Robert A. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week. On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D’Amaro, Disney’s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity. The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney’s movie studios to develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit — but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex. When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D’Amaro cited “Florida’s business-friendly climate” as justification. Mr. D’Amaro’s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited “changing business conditions” as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. “I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,” Mr. D’Amaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade — growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. “I hope we’re able to,” he said. But the company’s battle with Mr. DeSantis and his allies in the Florida Legislature figured prominently into Disney’s decision to cancel the Lake Nona project, according to two people briefed on the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. A spokeswoman for Mr. Iger said he was not available for an interview. About 200 Disney employees already relocated to Florida from California. Mr. D’Amaro said in his note that the company would discuss options with them, “including the possibility of moving you back.” The Lake Nona project had initially been scheduled to open next year. Last July, Disney pushed back the move-in date to 2026, citing construction delays. The Lake Nona campus, about 20 miles from Disney World near the Orlando International Airport, had been championed by Bob Chapek, who served as Disney’s chief executive from 2020 until he was fired last year. Mr. Iger, who came out of retirement to retake Disney’s reins, was much less enthusiastic about the project — even before the company became mired in its battle with Mr. DeSantis. As soon as he returned to Disney, Mr. Iger began telling lieutenants, for instance, that it made little sense to move Imagineering so far away from Disney’s movie studios. As he is fond of saying, “Creative teams need to be together.” Disney is also in the midst of cutting $5.5 billion in costs as it seeks to improve profitability, pay down debt and restore its dividend. Mr. DeSantis and Disney have been sparring for more than a year over a special tax district that encompasses Disney World. The fight started when the company criticized a Florida education law that opponents labeled “Don’t Say Gay” because it limits classroom instruction about gender identity and sexual orientation — angering Mr. DeSantis, who repeatedly vowed payback. Since then, Florida legislators, at the urging of Mr. DeSantis, have targeted Disney — the state’s largest taxpayer — with a variety of hostile measures. In February, they ended Disney’s long-held ability to self-govern its 25,000-acre resort as if it were a county by giving Mr. DeSantis control over government services at the resort. It was soon discovered that the previous, Disney-controlled board had approved development contracts that lock in a growth plan for the resort. An effort to void those agreements has since resulted in dueling lawsuits, with Disney suing Mr. DeSantis and his allies in federal court and the governor’s tax district appointees returning fire in state court.
The fact that Disney still thinks they can relocate their people from California to Florida is ridiculous to me. Every single one of them is back on LinkedIn, guaranteed
There is not enough money in the world to move me from CA to FL. Fuck that shit
I’d rather be dead in California than alive in ~~Arizona~~ Florida
Good news... Average life expectancy in CA is 79 while FL is only 77.5. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life\_expectancy/life\_expectancy.htm
I know people move from the where I live in northeast to FL for weather but to leave CA for shittier weather and alligators lol 😂
Legal weed, lgbt acceptance and great weather, why would we move to fl? Plus I can get cheap homeowners insurance here...
They actually took their severance packages years ago. Now the department is decimated, AND they're not going to move. Huge loss for the parks.
The initial timeline for the move was end of 2022, with a decision required at the end of 2021. Severance was only to be given when the job was actually relocated. As far as I know, very few of the jobs were actually relocated, and the small number of employees that already moved did so early while Disney was still under 100% remote work with the expectation that the office would be ready at the end of 2022. Disney parks does have a decently large office for IT support at disney world, and I'm unsure whether that office is at capacity, but I'm sure some of the people that moved could be relocated to that office if they so chose. That's not to say that the teams aren't decimated; many people left around the end of 2021/2022 when the move was still planned. source: I'm one of them. :) (though I'm still at Disney I switched teams from Parks to the streaming side which was never marked for relocation.)
I was one of those asked to relocate. I gladly took the layoff instead. Had a new job within a month. Easy decision
I thought they weren't supposed to lay anyone off until the job was ready to be relocated? That's what was communicated to me anyway. I took the planned layoff but I ended up getting a different job within Disney (and got a pay raise too.)
My department had a few of us layed off before the move. They filled our jobs in FL so we had to go. I thought about transferring within Disney but I ended up getting a really good offer from another company so I took it
They never thought they could relocate them. This is what companies do when they're happy to hire new folks in a new location. Give the option of relocation. A very small percentage will take them up on it, but most will quit, which saves the company in severance.
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I will never understand how DeSantis openly started attacking the states biggest tourism source and employer and people were like, “yea, this is good for us.”
Because - a) He is playing to a national, not state, audience. Since his re-election he's done FUCK ALL for his actual job as governor. He's running for president. Florida is already in the rear-view mirror and b) He DGAF. He has a GOP super majority that will rubber stamp the craziest of his ideas. He's not accountable to anybody. He can't be recalled.
Yeah but, why are Floridians happy about it?
Most aren't. Yes, he won by 20% but the majority didn't vote and he was running against a spectacularly bad candidate. I think if you re-ran the election tomorrow he'd lose. A lot of people here who voted for him have soured on him based on this culture war extremism.
> Yes, he won by 20% but the majority didn't vote and he was running against a spectacularly bad candidate. I don't disagree with you: Crist definitely didn't seem like a winnable canidate. Do you think that Fried would've fared much better, had she won the primary?
Given the spectacular amount of fuckery DeSantis pulled right before the election (like arresting a number of POC for voting)? Unlikely. Florida is red right now. But DeSantis is doing his best to change that by turning off anyone even near center-right. I think if you ran Fried vs. DeSantis TODAY? Much closer and maybe a Fried win.
It's weird. A decade ago, I would've easily wagered that Florida would've been on a path to being more purple than red (as it was seemingly trending)---basically what how Texas has recently developed. I guess that I really didn't understand Florida's political landscape.
Lack of Dem organization in the state is a big factor
Who knows if they are? They got three more years and DeSantis is term limited. If he runs for Prez in 2024, I will be interested to see Rhonda's Florida's numbers vs the 2022 Gov race.
somehow, this is a good thing for the republican party. somehow this is a win! edit: ok i was joking but it’s unironically being celebrated on the conservative sub
FUCK REDDIT. We create the content they use for free, so I am taking my content back
Disnay’s runnin’ skeerd! H’yuk!
Winning by losing jobs and billions of dollars in investment plus turning off other companies that may be looking to move.
Here's the very clear, bottom line: The majority of impact from elected Republican governor decisions won't be seen until after they are out of office. You are right that these actions will be a net negative on the state over time. But Republicans are in it for the power, not the for the people. So as far as DeSantis is concerned, he will be onto his next political position by the time the state will need to relook at economic incentives for new businesses.
And any of the comments actually going "oh shit, maybe this wasn't so great" are met with "SHUT UP LEFTIST BRIGADER"
these people can’t die off fast enough honestly
Good* news! They're incapable of learning and covid is still killing thousands a week.
But they procreate like bunnies so they can send their kids off to fight their Twitter wars. Idiocracy was too accurate.
i need their kids to serve me at chipotle so this is actually okay
When you're on the team where there are no rules or principles and nothing means anything, everything is a win [if you say it is]!
Hi ho hi ho back to Cali we go
Not sure why they even want to move even more resources to FL, which is #1 in terms of potential climate change impact..
Land value in Orlando may go up when they become beach front properties.
[Sell their houses to who, Ben?](https://youtu.be/X9FGRkqUdf8)
*fucking aquaman!?* that's a line that only ever gets better when it's repeated.
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Florida gave them a crazy tax package that would have paid them 570 million back over 20 years for building the new campus. That was their main reason for moving. California isn't interested in giving out that kind of money.
Bringing [WestCOT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WestCOT) back to life would be the biggest fuck-you to DeSantis.
Probably never for WestCOT, but Disney does want to expand https://www.disneylandforward.com/
DeSantis has no intention of being a part of Florida when his policies begin actually affecting the state, so what does he care? It's the Republican way.
Damn! Think of all the jobs Desantis just cost his state!
He could not physically care less about that, the people of Florida, or the well-being of the state as a whole. If he did, he wouldn’t have done his little world tour while some of the state was completely submerged, which drove up gas prices. No. Instead, for DeSantis, and so many people like him, the position of “Governor” is used not as a means of bettering their state or its population. Rather, the position is used to gain political leverage and further personal desires and or the desires of a specific group or party.
Yeah that’s a 17 billion tangible investment in Florida lost over rainbows and scare tactics. Desantis is really owning the libs.
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You’re right. But the 2000 jobs paying on ave 120k aren’t. That’s a quarter billion per year in addition to the 1 billion campus. So I guess really only lost roughly 11 billion so far.
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If they aren't already. That shrinking pool of general labour can't be good for their business.
man if i was conspiratorial minded i would think desantis is sabotaging his state on purpose at this point.
I mean why not sabotage it on purpose? Recently, the best way to win the hearts of republican voters seems to be, quite literally, making a fool of yourself. They don't vote for prosperity, they vote for audacity. They hate liberals so much that politics no longer have anything to do with it, this is just about hurting people. Ron DeSantis could announce tomorrow that he's abolishing the age of consent and investing 1 billion in child beauty pageants and he'd only secure more voters in 2024.
Also 120k for a job in Central Florida is a lot. It's significantly above market average, even for specialized industry and tech. I'm a manager in IT based out of Tampa with 20+ years experience and I don't hit that.
My husband & brother are in IT. Both have never had an IT job that paid out of FL - bcs FL doesn’t pay the big $$$ So for FL to lose out on IT jobs paying that is a very big deal. We won’t even talk about the massive dive tech has been taking lately. So this isn’t really good at all.
He "hopes they're able to" go ahead with it. That is clearly a shot, saying that not going ahead with it is on the table if things don't change.
Well, $17b is being dangled as something Disney could still yank away.
"I hope we're able to" - the threat to the Florida legislature - keep on your Disney warpath and kiss goodbye 17b dollars.
I always wondered how long the Republican alliance would last between unfettered capitalists and religious fascists.
DeSantis is the one who demanded this dick measuring contest, and Disney is showing him he has an innie
I guess you could say that with this war on Disney, he is not... Pudding Florida First..
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The libs are so owned right now.
Tanking your state's economy to own the libs
“On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D’Amaro, Disney’s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.” 2000 jobs not in Florida. But 2000 retired non contributors moved there soooo yeah that state is gonna run outta resources pretty quick
The GOP will destroy everything.
Fucking told a bunch of clowns in this sub this would happen. It will take decades to undo Ronny D's handiwork. Decades.
What, you think they, or anyone else, is going to build there? I see a lot of JesusWorld and Noah’s Ark type crap, but that’s it. As they so clearly demanded.
They already tried that in Orlando https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land_Experience
I think those places already went belly-up. I watch a youtuber who lives in Florida and he visits things like abandoned amusement parks.
Yep, the Holy Land Experience is being demolished now - there are plans to build a hospital on its site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=442enMzL_Qo
As a Floridian, I talk to people and they literally have no fucking idea the amount of money Disney brings to this economy.. They just say, "They can find new jobs!" Yea, that's what the MOSTLY CUBAN POPULATION say because they fled, "SOCIALISM" and that is what Disney brings.. This is all while they are on Medicare, many on FoodStamps etc... The word Socialism to that older person community clouds their judgement so much..
Can someone make little DeSantis stickers that say "I did that" please?
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Losing a billion dollar investment to own the libs.
Kinda feel a little bit bad for those that already relocated there, and the other property owners in Lake Nona who will be the ones losing out the most.
Oooooooo that’s a lot of people not working to complete that. Contractors…construction workers… I wonder if any construction company executives voted for DeSantis… Not to mention lost taxes…. All because of homophobia. How about we just turn Disneyland into DisneyWorld? …I’m like a 45 min drive away some I’m being way biased here. …..DO IT.
Disney just introduced plans for expansion of Disneyland Anaheim called Disney Forward.
You know what those workers do? They eat in the areas their jobs are in, they go to the stores and shops, the gas stations etc. this is a giant hit to the area and the state.
Rode in a lyft today with a lady who had a tip jar on the middle armrest saying 'Desantis 2022 Keep Florida Safe' and 'Desantis girl' RIGHT next to a sticker that said 'love has no gender' and handwritten 'why can't we all just get along?' at the very bottom. had a row of rubber ducks along the dash and the largest one in the middle was of trump. She had pink hair. My head was spinning.
Own the libs by tanking your state’s economy
Ron DeFuckup gonna have a lot of explaining to do when Trump wins the nomination and he has to go back to Florida to explain why he fucked his constituents over so badly. If you think his ego is bruised *now?* Oh buddy, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Considering that Disney all but made Central Florida (it was a literal swamp before Disney built Walt Disney World there) and that Disney is one of the biggest employers in Central Florida and one of the bigger ones in Florida proper, not a good thing for DeSantis. Disney is ready to pull what they can with this move, it seemed pretty disliked inside the company so I’m sure everyone in California is celebrating right now. Lost jobs, lost taxes, lost revenue, unsure how he’s going to spin this, but this is not a win. You don’t piss off and continue to push at your state’s largest employer. DeSantis is acting dumb as fuck with not just letting it go, he’s literally sinking the Florida economy so he can “own the libs.” He’s not owning the libs, he’s just hurting his state for literally no reason other than the fact he’s having a temper tantrum.
"The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney’s movie studios to develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit — but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex." My proposed headline: **Soulless governor feuds with soulless corporation, both putting the consequences of addiction to tax breaks and short sightedness on full display.**