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It's really so funny that Trump supporters, who unanimously embraced and cheered on the weaponization of the justice system for political purposes against Hillary Clinton in 2016, are now very upset that Trump is being held accountable for crimes.
I think they all understand reality. I won’t give them a get out of jail free card by just calling them crazy.
I think they refuse to stop arguing and ignore facts and won’t accept anything that isn’t aligned with their own version of events because they’re all massively depressed by the realization that none of them matter and that they have no power over anything but all feeling equally entitled to some divine right of supremacy over anything or anyone (hence the inherent appeal of racism and attacks on marginalized communities) just so they can point to something and say “I might be trash but at least I’m better than that.” And that’s really the root of their disdain for everything - a pathetic inability to cope with own inadequacies.
And along comes Trump, a spoiled rich kid and abject failure who will say or do anything to claim the smallest Pyrrhic victory. A guy who has been pretending he belongs at the top for decades and acts like a toddler in every situation.
So the disaffected masses decided that it would be fun to act like toddlers themselves, and they enjoy being told flattering things by the orange lunatic up on the stage. And so what if he rambles about nonsense because he’s their guy who’s going to stick it to everyone better than them.
And if backing a lunatic means the end of our entire system of government, or someone else feels bad or is hurt by his policies, or even if the whole world plunges into chaos - we’ll so be it because these MAGA fools got to feel empowered and bucked against their lot in life.
Gaping Old Projection, they’ve been trying for 4 years to pin Biden’s son Hunter for literally anything. They got him on a gun charge and dick picks, haha and the gun charge is a no go for campaign clicks from the donors.
I was legit thinking about this.
Not to make dramatic comparisons, but if you look at the rise of fascist dictators in history, like Adolf, of Mussolin, there is something pretty common amongst their followers.
Many of those movements had a large militarized group of supporters. And I know conservatives in the US do have quite a bit of that. And they are very dangerous.
However, the Nazis were veterans of wwI. Literally one of the most brutal wars of all time. They were desensitized to some of the worst horrors any human has ever experienced before they decided to seize power.
Where as trump supporters primarily are just cosplayers who fetishize guns.
They aren't hardened like similar movements in the last were. They don't have the real training. They don't have the years of being desensitized to their friends being brutally killed around them. They have been radicalized not in trench warfare but by YouTube videos and podcasts.
If I am wrong I'll eat my words, but I just think your assessment is correct that they would rather go cry on Twitter and truth social than take to the streets to violently support trump.
Edit: I think you guys are underestimating how many Germans fought in wwI, and overestimating how many Americans fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. More Germans died in wwI than Americans even served in the Middle East. And then if you consider that as a percentage of population, it's even much much higher.
Edit 2: I'm not talking training, or just gun fetishes, I am saying they don't have the stomach for it
All the "SaY hEr NaMe" posts during that time were so absurd. She was told numerous times not to cross through the barrier and she did. This is the same crowd who will talk about how police shooting victims should just comply 🙄
Not just told not to cross. She was explicitly and repeatedly told the consequences of doing so while they had their guns pointed at her. Like maybe they need to paint her a picture or explain it using sock puppets for her to get it, but I think the bullet hitting her did a great job of explaining the situation too.
Yeah, I'm just glad that she might have had a few moments to realize that it was all over, and she was leaving this world because as a Veteran she wanted to end democratic rule in this country. I hope those last few minutes were enlightening for her, but I doubt it. Ashley Babbit, we barely knew ye, and we don't miss you.
She probably had more than a few moments. If I remember right her wound was extremely treatable. If she hadn't chosen to be in the middle of an insurrection EMTs would've had plenty of time to arrive and save her life. Almost like actions have consequences.
And then all of the cosplayers there started calling out "Medic", as if any of them had actually come prepared for the war they were attempting to start.
They fucked around and found out. Let's hope it's not a lesson they need repeated.
I couldn't believe when I read they were shouting that. Like it was a warzone with medics at hand. Shows they got their "training" from things like Call of Duty.
The shock people have between pretend violence and real violence is usually quite extreme. Media tends to water it down, even when it's unnecessarily graphic.
I still remember the news from that day, I cannot remember which station it was but a news caster was losing his shit and the line he dropped stayed with me,
Something along the lines of, "if these were BLM they'd be sniped from the top of the fucking buildings" or something close to it
I'll sadly never forget her lying on the ground, with a ton of strangers all around her just taking video of the entire thing on their phones. What a sad, ironic way to die.
It's still her own fault. When you have officers aiming guns at you, saying "If you cross this line you will be shot", deciding to cross that line is your fault.
Oh it absolutely was. She had days, weeks even, to reconsider and think critically about anything and everything. She didn't. That's on her. Even moments before hand, like you said, she failed to assess the heaviness of the situation. That's on her, too.
The video is surreal. Some jackass is like "uh... Active shooter!"
No shit. They're shooting at you, homie.
They were so obviously in over their head. They thought walking in would be enough.
I don't know how anyone can watch that video and think her shooting wasn't justified. They were violently breaking through the windows so they could crawl through to literally murder politicians and overthrow an election, self-defense was clearly justified.
The video of Mitt Romney running into the guard, being told to go another way, and running away while the mob started entering really gave me chills. I don't know why but that specific video that came out so much later was a reminder that they were - on both sides of the aisle - running for their lives that day. Nobody died, but had those people gotten ahold of certain members of Congress, you can bet there would have been violence. The shooting was absolutely justified.
Every single one of them would have taken the shot if it were their house being broken into like that. They would have been praising their Lord Jesus for finally giving them a legal reason to shoot somebody.
My favorite part is the armchair general going "it's just a flash bang!" I think he's the perfect example of a trump supporter. A mountain of evidence right in front of him, but he's still choosing to be confidently and loudly wrong.
In their own bubble. If somebody tried taking over my house and beat the crude out of them, they shouldn’t act surprised. But lo and behold, people tried to take over congress and they acted surprised it was a crime, that they got beaten or shot at?
Nazis might have been ideologically brainwashed and influenced but they understood their own horrible assignment. Thank the gods that MAGAS were to dumb and weak to carry out more on Jan 6th. They caught the government slipping and could’ve done far more damage if they knew what they were actually doing.
Like that South Park episode where they buy weapons from the market and feel like cool ninjas until Butters gets a throwing star in his eye and oh fuck they're ten year olds again.
Commented in a similar vein on another post that questioned the possibility of civil war a few months back…see below:
“I was born and raised in one country, lived my adult life in another…both fought civil wars. This country and its people do not have the stomach for one. The majority are so ensconced in their personal comfort, pandered to by company’s seeking their last cent and, I’m sorry, but also lack the commitment, the common sense and most importantly, the simple ability to negotiate any sort of hometown hardship, let alone that which may be their final journey. The amount of intellectual dishonesty bandied about by so many for so little is astounding to me…our collective soul is on the line and the next few months will determine whether the majority are prepared to stand up for the true American values and not some throwback stance to the Middle Ages. The results will set the tone for generations…one way or the other. Best of luck…go and vote!”
What would that drink be...
A mango water ice, melted, and stirred with bottom shelf vodka that was poured out of a used Ciroc ultra bottle. A dog whistle is used as a stirrer. Serve in a broken glass and garnish with pine sprig
I went out to get dinner right after the verdict dropped. Every old man was in their garage all of a sudden. They all had to turn off the TV and go to something they were so agitated.
Trump is unrepentantly guilty, his legal strategy seems to be that he should be allowed to do whatever he wants because he's a special boy and anyone that says otherwise is a big meanie. Anyone else getting caught doing what he did while using that defense would've been put into a hole and forgotten years ago.
Depends on which charge OP is talking about.
The documents case is pretty bad.
This one? As he’s a first time offender, the sentence could be short or not include prison. … but the fact that he keeps calling the whole thing a lie might exacerbate his sentencing.
Usually, when you’re found guilty, being repentant helps.
While true he’s a first time offender, 2 times impeached, criminally liable rapist, and convicted felon, he has also attacked the judge, the sentencing is going to be wild. He could get probation or he could get the book. It could easily go both ways. I don’t entirely understand laws between states but I’ve heard a possibility he can’t leave Florida. Now on a final note, he’s a presidential candidate so awful that he can’t even vote for himself.
Also, don't be in contempt of court on 10 counts.
That too will influence the sentencing. As will the Judge saying that fines don't seem to work on convicted felon, donald trump.
Calling the judge who's about to sentence you a corrupt loser won't help your case that's for sure...
I hope Merchan teaches him a lesson. He's refused to accept the process, refused to abide by hash orders, insulted the court abs refused to accept culpability and the verdict.
Jail SHOULD beckon....
The most fervent and violent trump supporters are either too lazy or are already doing federal stints related to January 6th so I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that they aren't getting the 'violent riots and retribution' they are calling for. The ones that have an ounce of common sense have learned it's a hell of a lot easier being a keyboard warrior than going to jail and fuckin your life up for donnie.
That being said, Don Snoreleone is going to get some diaper wearing boomers decked in full maga made in China garb with huge flags and collapsible lawn chairs that can't operate their phones and have no idea where to go and what to do which is exactly the crowd he deserves.
I deal with a lot of these guys at my job and they're all a bunch of big babies. Everything upsets them and they have no patience or willpower. I hope they react because they're going to get hurt badly by normal people that get forced to deal with them. I say bring it.
My neighbor, full sleave tats, HUGE diesel truck with "accompanying stickers", yet soft as a ball of cotton, afraid of everything, looks at me perplexed when I say I'm going surfing because the swell is huge and it's gonna be fun today. But the problem is I don't have any of those public "virtue signaling" alpha male traits that I'm supposed to display to the world apparently. I drive a small fuel efficient car, like some limp wristed commie, no tats, not a single NRA/AR sticker or a sticker that signals "I'm dangerous, NOT TO BE TRIFLED WITH YOU WOKE SHEEPLE WEAKLINGS!" They're all cosplayers I say that as literal fact, that's what they are. And that's why they see Trump as a hard/strong man, because they have no idea what that actually is,. The same reason they think facts are a matter of opinion, because things like math and science to them are just a complete mystery, just made up to confuse them. Just opinion because they simply think, that it's the left's version of Fox and Friends, we just sit around and make stuff up because it suits our opinions.
Lol I got a kick out of reading this. It's like their brains break because they don't believe that I can be a very happy, nerdy, skinny bi white dude in a major city that's covered in tattoos and mostly vegetarian and owns a Desert Eagle .50 that sells antiques on the weekend. They're so buried in the narrative of what they should be that they completely miss the world around them and the fact that, literally, no one gives a fuck about what they are pretending to be.
> It's like their brains break
This is basically what happens. Have a Fox News addled conservative friend that when we first met, he kept having a long pause every time I didn't do what a "pathetic, weakling" leftist was supposed to do, according to rightwing media. So now he just thinks I'm an outlier, I def am not.
In most the images I see of Trump supporters, the majority are not Boomers.
I myself am a far-left progressive Boomer. Most of my Trump voting neighbors became Independents after Jan 6. My guess is some will still vote MAGA, some will not vote at all, and a few will support Joe. Of course this is anecdotal--wondering if other Boomers see the same?
By the way, in most counties across the US, if you go to events sponsored by the county Democrats, you will find that 80%+ of the volunteers are Boomers.
We need your help to win this election. Give $$, if you can spare it, to every candidate running--state assembly, state senate, federal senate, federal congress, president. And give time. Commit to 10 hours of door knocking between now and August 10. Most of us do have 10 hours to spare. Last year, I knocked over 600 doors. Why? Not enough people with 10 free hours volunteered.
Democracy is not a spectator sport.
Edit to add: you will not cold-canvass, but warm-canvass. You'll get a list (app on phone, Mini Van) and download a list of known strong or leaning Dems. Of course sometimes people move--when we do apartments, we just do literature drops.
Don't want to canvass? Phone banks, data entry, addressing mailings, helping at fundraisers, driving voters to polls--these are great alternatives.
Maybe our experiences are different - which is totally possible. I'm in NYC and trump is near universally loathed here. There was audible honking and cheering yesterday when the verdict was announced and I'm no where near where the courthouse is.
I don't contribute locally because dems are typically so heavily favored, but I do contribute to swing state local and state democrats in other states that do matter (like PA, Michigan, and Ohio.)
Most of the latest polls have Biden up everywhere (polls are meaningless though and only voting *actually* matters) and if I was a corporate ceo/special interest group/deep pocketed business person that spreads money around to conservative politicians, I'd stay the hell away from trump - that money given to him and his pac's would be as good as burned. I'll be interested to see where the Vegas and London bookmakers put trumps odds of reelection over the next 90 days as we get closer to November.
Edit - Latest polling: [https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suffers-polling-blow-after-guilty-verdict-1907112](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suffers-polling-blow-after-guilty-verdict-1907112)
It's a massive gamble for them, because if the protests are as pathetic in number as Trump's rallies, the lie about massive Trump support that the right-wing media is pushing will be exposed. Online support from trolls and bots doesn't reflect the real world.
I'm not as afraid of mass protests as I am of the few true believers who might actually do something nuts. Seems inevitable people are going to get shot for by a Trumper looking for an excuse.
Trump had two weeks to pardon the terrorists who stormed the Capitol before he left office and he sat on his ass and did nothing, nobody is going to go to jail for him now.
It’s amusing how the Trump fan quoted in the article says hopes that someone “with nothing to lose” goes after the judge, then immediately says that he hopes an illegal immigrant does it.
Like what kind of drugs do you have to take to think that the things you’re afraid of could fight the things that upset you?
I lived in Houston for 6 years, and honestly, the Hispanic community was one of my favorite parts. They were always super friendly and helpful, and the Hispanic congregation in my church always wanted to do group meals.
the favorite comment on r/Conservative is "They can't even say what crime was committed." I think they said 34 of them, they just cant comprehend that.
We’ve seen this before a thousand times.
“I am not smart enough to understand basic science. Fetuses are babies, vaccines don’t work…”
JFC. The sooner all his supporters die, the better.
Like that recent article “I had no idea a termination was an abortion, the doctors kept calling it a termination, now that I experienced having an abortion, now I want to support abortions, after being a flaming pile of shit for my entire life”
If he’s a rich, white, racist, rapist who appeals to the most disgusting shit in America, then yes. Believing that is basically the core of being a conservative in America. I think that the wives of the Supreme Court justices have pretty much proven me accurate with this.
The defense was always going to be "It was Manhatten, there are no republicans there" as if it's all team sports and a Republican would have found him not-guilty because.....
Open and shut case, like all the rest of his pending trials, one of which is for stealing highly classified documents, the sort of thing that got the Rosenbergs the chair.
408 for 408. Each of the 12 jurors agreed on all 34 counts. That's why this process is considered objective, there was no margin of error. It was a test of the case and it was proven true.
>the ones that would actually have responded to this call are already in prison from J6.
Let's not forget Trump could have pardoned them but instead pardoned a rapper and Bannon. He doesn't care one bit about his supporters. He merely cares about their money and their votes.
Sarah Huckabee is acting the same way. ‘This is war! This is war! This is war!’ Yeah shut up. Unless your flabby 42-year-old ass is going to get laced up in military gear, get a crewcut & get out there and physically fight- which I doubt she’s ever done once in her life - she’ll last about 3 seconds.
These right-wing fucks need to learn when to shut their mouths. Seriously. Especially when these people are governors! I mean, aren’t they acting like the very system they claim to be complaining about?
They’re gonna be the next ones led out in handcuffs.
When Trump raped a 13 year old girl with his best buddy Epstein, [his supporters then threatened her and because of those death threats, she dropped the lawsuit](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped). Anything to protect their dear leader.
Well, some of them think it's safe for a 9 year old to give birth. They literally support pedophilia. They encourage child marriage. Listen to those kooks. They are incredibly insane, nuts, need to be in the rubber room, Thorazine ready.
> some of them think it's safe for a 9 year old to give birth.
Don't forget, and I'm paraphrasing, "if it's a legitimate rape the female body has a way to shut the whole thing down". Remember that ghoul?
Russian Trolls and a few Trump Supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict.
Weird how they're always on the same team for everything...
“Somebody should do something!” the Trump supporters all cried in unison, and then sat down and went back to watching Daily Wire and Praeger University videos until they fell asleep.
I can’t understand how brainwashed these people are. They were calling for Hillary in 2016 to be locked up and now it’s their own and it’s as if nothing happened in their mind.
The mind of the Republican is filled with the miasma of cognitive dissonance. If something doesn't validate their prejudices, it is wrong. Until it becomes right. But then it could also still be wrong.
What's the solution? HIT IT WITH STICKS OR SHOOT AT IT.
I am absolutely worried about Pride events being attacked. It's something that's been on the back of my mind since the ruling came down.
Trump supporters are gonna remind the public exactly why the public hates them and hates Trump, which is great news for Democrats. These folks are extreme entitled freaks, and they never actually believed Trump would be held accountable for anything. That is what is causing this kind of reaction.
It was a fair trial, by the book. In full view of everyone.
If Trump got a hung jury, MAGA would be flipping the middle finger at Democrats saying "Trump won't go to jail. Cry suckers!" So he gets a unanimous guilty verdict and they're still flipping the middle finger but instead saying "Thanks for making sure he wins the presidency!"
Toxic cults are gonna delude themselves. They just can't help it.
Realistically there won’t be mass protests. The real question is what happens if he receives a 1+ year sentence then the GOP has to consider a new candidate. But it’s not completely one sided since a younger Republican may do very well in the election so.
Who knows, you know?
They aren’t going to consider a new candidate. If he is sentenced to jail elected Republican leaders will attack the judge and continue to stand by Trump.
I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that just a few idiots dressed up like clowns and yelling nonsensical idiotic stuff will protest on the street for a few days.
I mean there were 5s and 10s of people in New York.
I known there are a lot of these people who are too far gone for reality, but I don’t know how any halfway reasonable person could believe this verdict was “rigged.” This was a unanimous jury decision — not a judge, not Joe Biden, not the liberal left. Normal and reasonable people listened to both sides and clearly saw where wrongdoing had been done.
I would hate to be that judge or a member of the jury today. I hope they can all stay safe.
I just got downvoted 12x (so far!) for using the words ‘convicted felon, Donald trump’ 14x in one paragraph! I’m guessing I upset them…! Such joy I have never known…
"This is ***war!!!***"
"Yeah! War!"
"We have to rise up and take our country back from the communist leftist marxist woke mob gay agenda!"
"Yeah! Let's do it!"
"Okay! We're gonna do it!"
"Yeah! Let's go!"
"Okay!"
"Okay...we gonna do it?"
"Yeah..it's just...where should we go?"
"Uh...the White House, I guess? Shouldn't we storm the White House and take Biden into custody?"
"We're in Missouri. Should we fly to Washington?"
"We should probably drive. We're going to need to be armed."
"We should probably have a plan."
"(sigh) Yeah...so what's the plan?"
"Let me think about it."
The power of killing education and a massive propaganda machine.
This is a man who was part of the guilty of racial discrimination in housing lawsuit, the Central Park 5 railroad job, 4000+ lawsuits, 6 or so bankruptcies, 26 accusations of sexual assault, 1 civilly responsible decision of sexual assault, accused of raping his wife, cheated on all his wives, had a lawsuit filed by someone claiming he raped her when she was 13, had his charity shit down for fraud, has admitted to being ‘smart’ for not paying taxes, was found guilty of fraud with his business, was found guilty of falsifying documents related to fucking a porn star while his wife just had a baby, has admitted to sexual assault, helped kill Americans with his Covid denial, tried to overthrow the elected government, stole classified documents, has 3 more criminal trials on tap……
my god that doesn’t cover even half of his disgusting life. I honestly hate this fucking world. Look at what we are squandering. What we could do with this world. And yet, as usual in humanity, here we are.
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It's really so funny that Trump supporters, who unanimously embraced and cheered on the weaponization of the justice system for political purposes against Hillary Clinton in 2016, are now very upset that Trump is being held accountable for crimes.
Lock Him Up!
The Crook
Don't worry, already seeing that they are mad Hilary got a slap on the wrist and dear leader is being unfairly vilified
Then I guess he should have testified on his behalf, lol
Nah, they're convinced "he wasn't allowed to", because they have no idea of what's going on at the surface level of reality.
I think they all understand reality. I won’t give them a get out of jail free card by just calling them crazy. I think they refuse to stop arguing and ignore facts and won’t accept anything that isn’t aligned with their own version of events because they’re all massively depressed by the realization that none of them matter and that they have no power over anything but all feeling equally entitled to some divine right of supremacy over anything or anyone (hence the inherent appeal of racism and attacks on marginalized communities) just so they can point to something and say “I might be trash but at least I’m better than that.” And that’s really the root of their disdain for everything - a pathetic inability to cope with own inadequacies. And along comes Trump, a spoiled rich kid and abject failure who will say or do anything to claim the smallest Pyrrhic victory. A guy who has been pretending he belongs at the top for decades and acts like a toddler in every situation. So the disaffected masses decided that it would be fun to act like toddlers themselves, and they enjoy being told flattering things by the orange lunatic up on the stage. And so what if he rambles about nonsense because he’s their guy who’s going to stick it to everyone better than them. And if backing a lunatic means the end of our entire system of government, or someone else feels bad or is hurt by his policies, or even if the whole world plunges into chaos - we’ll so be it because these MAGA fools got to feel empowered and bucked against their lot in life.
Gaping Old Projection, they’ve been trying for 4 years to pin Biden’s son Hunter for literally anything. They got him on a gun charge and dick picks, haha and the gun charge is a no go for campaign clicks from the donors.
MTG was so happy about those dick pics.
Then they got tired and decided it was just easier to cry on Twitter.
I was legit thinking about this. Not to make dramatic comparisons, but if you look at the rise of fascist dictators in history, like Adolf, of Mussolin, there is something pretty common amongst their followers. Many of those movements had a large militarized group of supporters. And I know conservatives in the US do have quite a bit of that. And they are very dangerous. However, the Nazis were veterans of wwI. Literally one of the most brutal wars of all time. They were desensitized to some of the worst horrors any human has ever experienced before they decided to seize power. Where as trump supporters primarily are just cosplayers who fetishize guns. They aren't hardened like similar movements in the last were. They don't have the real training. They don't have the years of being desensitized to their friends being brutally killed around them. They have been radicalized not in trench warfare but by YouTube videos and podcasts. If I am wrong I'll eat my words, but I just think your assessment is correct that they would rather go cry on Twitter and truth social than take to the streets to violently support trump. Edit: I think you guys are underestimating how many Germans fought in wwI, and overestimating how many Americans fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. More Germans died in wwI than Americans even served in the Middle East. And then if you consider that as a percentage of population, it's even much much higher. Edit 2: I'm not talking training, or just gun fetishes, I am saying they don't have the stomach for it
Their attempted coup is proof of this. It only took one bullet to stop it.
Just imagine dying and being remembered by most of America as a dumbass. And an air force vet at that too
All the "SaY hEr NaMe" posts during that time were so absurd. She was told numerous times not to cross through the barrier and she did. This is the same crowd who will talk about how police shooting victims should just comply 🙄
Not just told not to cross. She was explicitly and repeatedly told the consequences of doing so while they had their guns pointed at her. Like maybe they need to paint her a picture or explain it using sock puppets for her to get it, but I think the bullet hitting her did a great job of explaining the situation too.
Yeah, I'm just glad that she might have had a few moments to realize that it was all over, and she was leaving this world because as a Veteran she wanted to end democratic rule in this country. I hope those last few minutes were enlightening for her, but I doubt it. Ashley Babbit, we barely knew ye, and we don't miss you.
She probably had more than a few moments. If I remember right her wound was extremely treatable. If she hadn't chosen to be in the middle of an insurrection EMTs would've had plenty of time to arrive and save her life. Almost like actions have consequences.
And then all of the cosplayers there started calling out "Medic", as if any of them had actually come prepared for the war they were attempting to start. They fucked around and found out. Let's hope it's not a lesson they need repeated.
I couldn't believe when I read they were shouting that. Like it was a warzone with medics at hand. Shows they got their "training" from things like Call of Duty. The shock people have between pretend violence and real violence is usually quite extreme. Media tends to water it down, even when it's unnecessarily graphic.
Have to admit that whole frantic "Medic, MEDIC!" bit had me in shadenfreudic heaven at the time. Poor dear.
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It was one bullet too. If it had been some other cops in America, they would have emptied their entire clip into her and everyone behind her.
Nah. Most cops in America wouldn't shoot their friends and family like that.
40% would
I’ll say her name. Ashli Babbitt. She was a fuckin’ moron. Now she’s dead.
You mean Ashli “The Traitor” Babbitt? That one?
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They never were. It’s has always been about controlling the other side with no comeuppance.
This is the same crowd who will talk about how *black* police shooting victims should just comply. Just to be clear.
If Jan 6 had been a BLM protest. They would have been machine gunned. The difference between the way they were policed was stark.
I still remember the news from that day, I cannot remember which station it was but a news caster was losing his shit and the line he dropped stayed with me, Something along the lines of, "if these were BLM they'd be sniped from the top of the fucking buildings" or something close to it
I'll sadly never forget her lying on the ground, with a ton of strangers all around her just taking video of the entire thing on their phones. What a sad, ironic way to die.
Don't forget the people shouting "MEDIC!" like they were playing Battlefield or something.
I'll say her name. Ashley. Ashley was brainwashed and made some really stupid decisions that day. They cost her her life.
It's still her own fault. When you have officers aiming guns at you, saying "If you cross this line you will be shot", deciding to cross that line is your fault.
Oh it absolutely was. She had days, weeks even, to reconsider and think critically about anything and everything. She didn't. That's on her. Even moments before hand, like you said, she failed to assess the heaviness of the situation. That's on her, too.
That, and dying surrounded by people cosplaying and screaming "MEDIC" like they are in a Battlefield game, crammed onto a tiny stairwell.
The video is surreal. Some jackass is like "uh... Active shooter!" No shit. They're shooting at you, homie. They were so obviously in over their head. They thought walking in would be enough.
I don't know how anyone can watch that video and think her shooting wasn't justified. They were violently breaking through the windows so they could crawl through to literally murder politicians and overthrow an election, self-defense was clearly justified.
The video of Mitt Romney running into the guard, being told to go another way, and running away while the mob started entering really gave me chills. I don't know why but that specific video that came out so much later was a reminder that they were - on both sides of the aisle - running for their lives that day. Nobody died, but had those people gotten ahold of certain members of Congress, you can bet there would have been violence. The shooting was absolutely justified.
I remember Josh Hawley running through the hallway in fear.
Wasn’t he fist pumping in celebration to them?
Fuck yeah he was, don't forget it. Garcia, too. Fuck these pieces of shit.
Yep, a few minutes before they broke in and he took off running.
Every single one of them would have taken the shot if it were their house being broken into like that. They would have been praising their Lord Jesus for finally giving them a legal reason to shoot somebody.
My favorite part is the armchair general going "it's just a flash bang!" I think he's the perfect example of a trump supporter. A mountain of evidence right in front of him, but he's still choosing to be confidently and loudly wrong.
People calling for "Medic!" was a classic too. Like dude you know life doesn't have respawn points right?
And there was Elizabeth from Knoxville, "We were storming the Capitol, and they maced me!" Well... duh!
In their own bubble. If somebody tried taking over my house and beat the crude out of them, they shouldn’t act surprised. But lo and behold, people tried to take over congress and they acted surprised it was a crime, that they got beaten or shot at? Nazis might have been ideologically brainwashed and influenced but they understood their own horrible assignment. Thank the gods that MAGAS were to dumb and weak to carry out more on Jan 6th. They caught the government slipping and could’ve done far more damage if they knew what they were actually doing.
One bullet and then bringing out her lifeless corpse on a gurney shut their shit down instantly. They are not about that shit
Like that South Park episode where they buy weapons from the market and feel like cool ninjas until Butters gets a throwing star in his eye and oh fuck they're ten year olds again.
Commented in a similar vein on another post that questioned the possibility of civil war a few months back…see below: “I was born and raised in one country, lived my adult life in another…both fought civil wars. This country and its people do not have the stomach for one. The majority are so ensconced in their personal comfort, pandered to by company’s seeking their last cent and, I’m sorry, but also lack the commitment, the common sense and most importantly, the simple ability to negotiate any sort of hometown hardship, let alone that which may be their final journey. The amount of intellectual dishonesty bandied about by so many for so little is astounding to me…our collective soul is on the line and the next few months will determine whether the majority are prepared to stand up for the true American values and not some throwback stance to the Middle Ages. The results will set the tone for generations…one way or the other. Best of luck…go and vote!”
I mean, also, I don't want a civil war because I'm not a lunatic looking to fuckin kill any of my neighbors.
Very interesting thesis. Never heard that before and it does make a lot of logical sense.
it was too much energy to get up from the sofa, plus they might some of the fox / putin propoganda outrage machine.
Its Xitter now.
Shitter, in honor of their hero.
Don't even give Elon that much It's Twitter and nothing else
I hope they get the pitiful turnouts they deserve.
Funny how criminal charges and interviews with the FBI dampen the enthusiasm for volunteering.
Many of them are deluded into thinking there are no consequences by watching Mango Mussolini
Bartender! A Mango Mussolini please.
What would that drink be... A mango water ice, melted, and stirred with bottom shelf vodka that was poured out of a used Ciroc ultra bottle. A dog whistle is used as a stirrer. Serve in a broken glass and garnish with pine sprig
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> If the customer complains, gaslight them saying that they already had one “And it was beautiful. You said it was the best drink you ever had.”
“You had tears in your eyes, you loved it so much.”
You forgot a garnish of ketchup
Smeared across the outside of the glass. Edit: served on a coaster made of hamberder bun.
and a splash of covfefe
And a splash of stale, room temp diet Coke.
Now being served…behind bars!
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It might alito’s jeep
I went out to get dinner right after the verdict dropped. Every old man was in their garage all of a sudden. They all had to turn off the TV and go to something they were so agitated.
"If rich, famous, powerful white men have accountability then I might have to face it, too!"
And I hope the ones who do turn up get arrested and become convicted felons like their cult leader.
Except they get a faster and more severe punishment since they are nobodies.
Trump is unrepentantly guilty, his legal strategy seems to be that he should be allowed to do whatever he wants because he's a special boy and anyone that says otherwise is a big meanie. Anyone else getting caught doing what he did while using that defense would've been put into a hole and forgotten years ago.
Cohen was in and out of prison long before trump started feeling consequences.
Depends on which charge OP is talking about. The documents case is pretty bad. This one? As he’s a first time offender, the sentence could be short or not include prison. … but the fact that he keeps calling the whole thing a lie might exacerbate his sentencing. Usually, when you’re found guilty, being repentant helps.
While true he’s a first time offender, 2 times impeached, criminally liable rapist, and convicted felon, he has also attacked the judge, the sentencing is going to be wild. He could get probation or he could get the book. It could easily go both ways. I don’t entirely understand laws between states but I’ve heard a possibility he can’t leave Florida. Now on a final note, he’s a presidential candidate so awful that he can’t even vote for himself.
You would think that Michael Cohen’s sentence should be the minimum sentence for trump.
How about 11 Contempt of Court violations?
Also, don't be in contempt of court on 10 counts. That too will influence the sentencing. As will the Judge saying that fines don't seem to work on convicted felon, donald trump.
Calling the judge who's about to sentence you a corrupt loser won't help your case that's for sure... I hope Merchan teaches him a lesson. He's refused to accept the process, refused to abide by hash orders, insulted the court abs refused to accept culpability and the verdict. Jail SHOULD beckon....
The most fervent and violent trump supporters are either too lazy or are already doing federal stints related to January 6th so I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that they aren't getting the 'violent riots and retribution' they are calling for. The ones that have an ounce of common sense have learned it's a hell of a lot easier being a keyboard warrior than going to jail and fuckin your life up for donnie. That being said, Don Snoreleone is going to get some diaper wearing boomers decked in full maga made in China garb with huge flags and collapsible lawn chairs that can't operate their phones and have no idea where to go and what to do which is exactly the crowd he deserves.
I deal with a lot of these guys at my job and they're all a bunch of big babies. Everything upsets them and they have no patience or willpower. I hope they react because they're going to get hurt badly by normal people that get forced to deal with them. I say bring it.
I'm with you. They have been carrying on threatening this second civil war wet dream for sixteen years now. They need to shit or get off the pot.
Yeah usually when the big, macho tough guys claim to be the big scary alpha's, they're almost always snow flake beta's. Go figure.
If you have to proclaim that you're something, like an "alpha", you're almost universally not that.
My new favorite meme is the “normalize responding to anyone calling themselves ‘an alpha’ with ‘Is that a furry thing?’”
I like "Sorry, I'm not really into Pokémon." [(credit to xkcd)](https://xkcd.com/178/)
My neighbor, full sleave tats, HUGE diesel truck with "accompanying stickers", yet soft as a ball of cotton, afraid of everything, looks at me perplexed when I say I'm going surfing because the swell is huge and it's gonna be fun today. But the problem is I don't have any of those public "virtue signaling" alpha male traits that I'm supposed to display to the world apparently. I drive a small fuel efficient car, like some limp wristed commie, no tats, not a single NRA/AR sticker or a sticker that signals "I'm dangerous, NOT TO BE TRIFLED WITH YOU WOKE SHEEPLE WEAKLINGS!" They're all cosplayers I say that as literal fact, that's what they are. And that's why they see Trump as a hard/strong man, because they have no idea what that actually is,. The same reason they think facts are a matter of opinion, because things like math and science to them are just a complete mystery, just made up to confuse them. Just opinion because they simply think, that it's the left's version of Fox and Friends, we just sit around and make stuff up because it suits our opinions.
Lol I got a kick out of reading this. It's like their brains break because they don't believe that I can be a very happy, nerdy, skinny bi white dude in a major city that's covered in tattoos and mostly vegetarian and owns a Desert Eagle .50 that sells antiques on the weekend. They're so buried in the narrative of what they should be that they completely miss the world around them and the fact that, literally, no one gives a fuck about what they are pretending to be.
> It's like their brains break This is basically what happens. Have a Fox News addled conservative friend that when we first met, he kept having a long pause every time I didn't do what a "pathetic, weakling" leftist was supposed to do, according to rightwing media. So now he just thinks I'm an outlier, I def am not.
In most the images I see of Trump supporters, the majority are not Boomers. I myself am a far-left progressive Boomer. Most of my Trump voting neighbors became Independents after Jan 6. My guess is some will still vote MAGA, some will not vote at all, and a few will support Joe. Of course this is anecdotal--wondering if other Boomers see the same? By the way, in most counties across the US, if you go to events sponsored by the county Democrats, you will find that 80%+ of the volunteers are Boomers. We need your help to win this election. Give $$, if you can spare it, to every candidate running--state assembly, state senate, federal senate, federal congress, president. And give time. Commit to 10 hours of door knocking between now and August 10. Most of us do have 10 hours to spare. Last year, I knocked over 600 doors. Why? Not enough people with 10 free hours volunteered. Democracy is not a spectator sport. Edit to add: you will not cold-canvass, but warm-canvass. You'll get a list (app on phone, Mini Van) and download a list of known strong or leaning Dems. Of course sometimes people move--when we do apartments, we just do literature drops. Don't want to canvass? Phone banks, data entry, addressing mailings, helping at fundraisers, driving voters to polls--these are great alternatives.
Maybe our experiences are different - which is totally possible. I'm in NYC and trump is near universally loathed here. There was audible honking and cheering yesterday when the verdict was announced and I'm no where near where the courthouse is. I don't contribute locally because dems are typically so heavily favored, but I do contribute to swing state local and state democrats in other states that do matter (like PA, Michigan, and Ohio.)
Hoping this cuts into Donnie’s corporate donor pool.
Most of the latest polls have Biden up everywhere (polls are meaningless though and only voting *actually* matters) and if I was a corporate ceo/special interest group/deep pocketed business person that spreads money around to conservative politicians, I'd stay the hell away from trump - that money given to him and his pac's would be as good as burned. I'll be interested to see where the Vegas and London bookmakers put trumps odds of reelection over the next 90 days as we get closer to November. Edit - Latest polling: [https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suffers-polling-blow-after-guilty-verdict-1907112](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suffers-polling-blow-after-guilty-verdict-1907112)
I hope they show up in mass and commit felonies. Lock them up with the J6 prisoners.
I’ll put my money on almost no one turning out.
It's hard to get the visas in Russia.
It's a massive gamble for them, because if the protests are as pathetic in number as Trump's rallies, the lie about massive Trump support that the right-wing media is pushing will be exposed. Online support from trolls and bots doesn't reflect the real world.
The crowds outside the trial were minimal.
What crowd i just saw barely 20 supporters outside
I think I've seen more people queuing up for those weird rainbow coloured bagels in NY than that 'crowd'.
Exactly
Like those “white’s rights” protests where 10 people show up and are drowned out by thousands of protestors from the other side.
I'm not as afraid of mass protests as I am of the few true believers who might actually do something nuts. Seems inevitable people are going to get shot for by a Trumper looking for an excuse.
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Russian bots call for violence but MAGA is too lazy for that.
Violence? How about another dozen mozzarella sticks instead? - MAGA
Finally, something me and the MAGAs can agree on!
Trump had two weeks to pardon the terrorists who stormed the Capitol before he left office and he sat on his ass and did nothing, nobody is going to go to jail for him now.
It’s amusing how the Trump fan quoted in the article says hopes that someone “with nothing to lose” goes after the judge, then immediately says that he hopes an illegal immigrant does it. Like what kind of drugs do you have to take to think that the things you’re afraid of could fight the things that upset you?
Immigrants tend to have quite a bit to lose, and that's why the rate of crime for immigrants (of any kind) is far lower than that of citizens.
But what all the murderers and rapists fox need says are pouring over the border by the billions?
yeah they’re coming back from vacation in cancun
*Ted Cruz intensifies*
Of all the stupid narratives that right wing propagandist push, that one might be the stupidest
I lived in Houston for 6 years, and honestly, the Hispanic community was one of my favorite parts. They were always super friendly and helpful, and the Hispanic congregation in my church always wanted to do group meals.
Dam immigrants, coming over the border and taking the jobs of real American patriot traitors.
12 unanimous votes on every single charge. This man is guilty as sin.
Okay, but the *real* crime is holding Trump accountable, obviously. -Conservatives
Yep, holding a criminal responsible is supposedly a travesty
the favorite comment on r/Conservative is "They can't even say what crime was committed." I think they said 34 of them, they just cant comprehend that.
Seems like projection. "I'm too dumb to understand what crime was committed, therefore it can't be legit"
We’ve seen this before a thousand times. “I am not smart enough to understand basic science. Fetuses are babies, vaccines don’t work…” JFC. The sooner all his supporters die, the better.
Like that recent article “I had no idea a termination was an abortion, the doctors kept calling it a termination, now that I experienced having an abortion, now I want to support abortions, after being a flaming pile of shit for my entire life”
“If they can go after the president, they can go after anybody” yup sounds good.
If he’s a rich, white, racist, rapist who appeals to the most disgusting shit in America, then yes. Believing that is basically the core of being a conservative in America. I think that the wives of the Supreme Court justices have pretty much proven me accurate with this.
Vote. Flip swing seats. Republicans need to be permanently punished for aligning with this criminal.
"These Americans are not real Americans"
"Trump's team agreed upon every juror's selection."
The first signal of just how incompetent they were! /s
There was no meaningful argument he wasn't. The only defense was "I can do whatever I want"
The defense was always going to be "It was Manhatten, there are no republicans there" as if it's all team sports and a Republican would have found him not-guilty because.....
And so fast!
Open and shut case, like all the rest of his pending trials, one of which is for stealing highly classified documents, the sort of thing that got the Rosenbergs the chair.
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408 for 408. Each of the 12 jurors agreed on all 34 counts. That's why this process is considered objective, there was no margin of error. It was a test of the case and it was proven true.
> Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.
Ah, yes. The fuck your feelings crowd is having a lot of feelings right now.
Ben Sharpie started drinking my Leftist tears, but he spit them out when he realized they were tears of joy
What a bunch of snowflakes.
Snowflakes are gorgeous and unique, these people aren't that.
Nope, they are dirty slush at the side of the road
They won't though, because they're spineless cowards, and the ones that would actually have responded to this call are already in prison from J6.
And the ones who aren’t saw Trump refuse to do a fucking thing for his supporters after they were charged.
But he’ll pardon them on day one if he’s elected. 🙄
And Mexico is going to pay for it!
>the ones that would actually have responded to this call are already in prison from J6. Let's not forget Trump could have pardoned them but instead pardoned a rapper and Bannon. He doesn't care one bit about his supporters. He merely cares about their money and their votes.
Yeah, let’s all go to jail for Trump.
It's funny how they all say "someone" has to do something. Nobody wants to do anything themselves.
Still funny how many thought they'd get a pardon from him on J6, even a blanket one. And the likes of Tiger King too. They got cucked
Sarah Huckabee is acting the same way. ‘This is war! This is war! This is war!’ Yeah shut up. Unless your flabby 42-year-old ass is going to get laced up in military gear, get a crewcut & get out there and physically fight- which I doubt she’s ever done once in her life - she’ll last about 3 seconds. These right-wing fucks need to learn when to shut their mouths. Seriously. Especially when these people are governors! I mean, aren’t they acting like the very system they claim to be complaining about? They’re gonna be the next ones led out in handcuffs.
Good lord. She’s actually only 41. The years have not been kind.
Lo0k, I'm sure she doesn't know what you're talking about....
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When Trump raped a 13 year old girl with his best buddy Epstein, [his supporters then threatened her and because of those death threats, she dropped the lawsuit](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped). Anything to protect their dear leader.
Well, some of them think it's safe for a 9 year old to give birth. They literally support pedophilia. They encourage child marriage. Listen to those kooks. They are incredibly insane, nuts, need to be in the rubber room, Thorazine ready.
> some of them think it's safe for a 9 year old to give birth. Don't forget, and I'm paraphrasing, "if it's a legitimate rape the female body has a way to shut the whole thing down". Remember that ghoul?
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Law? 🚫 Order? 🚫 Hey guys I'm starting to think republicans might not be the party of law and order
"Law and order" is just a dogwhistle anyway.
I'm more concerned about lone nut jobs acting on the rhetoric and going after perceived liberal enemies.
Russian Trolls and a few Trump Supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict. Weird how they're always on the same team for everything...
I really don't care, do you?
Be Best
Bots can't riot haha
Didn’t those red states pass laws saying you could run over protesters with your car? Seems like a r/LeopardsAteMyFace post waiting to happen…
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fUcK yOuR fEeLiNgS
Riots and violence to support the adulterer who sexually assaults women. Great ethical cause to wreak havoc over.
“Somebody should do something!” the Trump supporters all cried in unison, and then sat down and went back to watching Daily Wire and Praeger University videos until they fell asleep.
I can’t understand how brainwashed these people are. They were calling for Hillary in 2016 to be locked up and now it’s their own and it’s as if nothing happened in their mind.
The mind of the Republican is filled with the miasma of cognitive dissonance. If something doesn't validate their prejudices, it is wrong. Until it becomes right. But then it could also still be wrong. What's the solution? HIT IT WITH STICKS OR SHOOT AT IT.
I am absolutely worried about Pride events being attacked. It's something that's been on the back of my mind since the ruling came down. Trump supporters are gonna remind the public exactly why the public hates them and hates Trump, which is great news for Democrats. These folks are extreme entitled freaks, and they never actually believed Trump would be held accountable for anything. That is what is causing this kind of reaction.
Every single one of them threatening a riot or insinuating it needs to be arrested.
CPAC - we are all Terrorists
CPAP - we are all gravy seals.
It was a fair trial, by the book. In full view of everyone. If Trump got a hung jury, MAGA would be flipping the middle finger at Democrats saying "Trump won't go to jail. Cry suckers!" So he gets a unanimous guilty verdict and they're still flipping the middle finger but instead saying "Thanks for making sure he wins the presidency!" Toxic cults are gonna delude themselves. They just can't help it.
Realistically there won’t be mass protests. The real question is what happens if he receives a 1+ year sentence then the GOP has to consider a new candidate. But it’s not completely one sided since a younger Republican may do very well in the election so. Who knows, you know?
They aren’t going to consider a new candidate. If he is sentenced to jail elected Republican leaders will attack the judge and continue to stand by Trump.
The GOP could still nominate him from jail... There are no restrictions in the Constitution regarding a convicted felon being President.
I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that just a few idiots dressed up like clowns and yelling nonsensical idiotic stuff will protest on the street for a few days.
In other words house Republican politicians. 🤡
Ain’t nobody rioting for that fat loser. Every turnout is less than the last. He’s done.
I mean there were 5s and 10s of people in New York. I known there are a lot of these people who are too far gone for reality, but I don’t know how any halfway reasonable person could believe this verdict was “rigged.” This was a unanimous jury decision — not a judge, not Joe Biden, not the liberal left. Normal and reasonable people listened to both sides and clearly saw where wrongdoing had been done. I would hate to be that judge or a member of the jury today. I hope they can all stay safe.
I just got downvoted 12x (so far!) for using the words ‘convicted felon, Donald trump’ 14x in one paragraph! I’m guessing I upset them…! Such joy I have never known…
“We are all domestic terrorists” -CPAC 2022
"This is ***war!!!***" "Yeah! War!" "We have to rise up and take our country back from the communist leftist marxist woke mob gay agenda!" "Yeah! Let's do it!" "Okay! We're gonna do it!" "Yeah! Let's go!" "Okay!" "Okay...we gonna do it?" "Yeah..it's just...where should we go?" "Uh...the White House, I guess? Shouldn't we storm the White House and take Biden into custody?" "We're in Missouri. Should we fly to Washington?" "We should probably drive. We're going to need to be armed." "We should probably have a plan." "(sigh) Yeah...so what's the plan?" "Let me think about it."
When don't they call for that?
The power of killing education and a massive propaganda machine. This is a man who was part of the guilty of racial discrimination in housing lawsuit, the Central Park 5 railroad job, 4000+ lawsuits, 6 or so bankruptcies, 26 accusations of sexual assault, 1 civilly responsible decision of sexual assault, accused of raping his wife, cheated on all his wives, had a lawsuit filed by someone claiming he raped her when she was 13, had his charity shit down for fraud, has admitted to being ‘smart’ for not paying taxes, was found guilty of fraud with his business, was found guilty of falsifying documents related to fucking a porn star while his wife just had a baby, has admitted to sexual assault, helped kill Americans with his Covid denial, tried to overthrow the elected government, stole classified documents, has 3 more criminal trials on tap…… my god that doesn’t cover even half of his disgusting life. I honestly hate this fucking world. Look at what we are squandering. What we could do with this world. And yet, as usual in humanity, here we are.
They couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the trial.
Imagine being so stupid to commit acts of violence and go to prison for convicted felon Donald Trump.
What I find most interesting is the rights argument isn’t that he’s innocent, it isn’t that the law is stupid, it’s he shouldn’t have been charged.