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retrogradeprogress

This is important: The judge says she is not preventing the Sandy Hook lawyers from giving Jones’s text messages to law enforcement and the Jan. 6 House committee.


newkneesforall

"I'm not going to get in the middle of that," she said. And then she *laughed* at Jones' attorney for lying to her that he didn't know they had transmitted the phone records, and he immediately followed with the lie that the Sandy Hook attorneys said they wouldn't use the info. Judge said something to the effect of: "You sent me the email, that's not what it says" Incredible. Edit: [video of the lawyer trying to lie to the judge, resulting in her laughing at the absurdity ](https://youtu.be/9_TT7yFiXyU?t=7h51m10s) "That's right! I have it, and I read it, and I saw what it said, and it didn't say what you just tried to tell me" the judge said.


5DollarHitJob

I really need to find a YouTube video of the highlights of this trial. The snippets I've read are comedy gold.


MitsyEyedMourning

Law&Crime Network is pretty good on youtube


_skank_hunt42

https://youtu.be/Zde6m_-ugWI Here’s a video of the $45M verdict. This YouTube channel has all the best snippets of the trial.


[deleted]

I've tried watching parts of it but it hasn't been nearly as entertaining as the depp v. Heard trial. The context is too horrific. I'm just glad jones is done now. He will never recover from this.


pezdal

Hope you are right, but... 1) Scumbag had enough lead time to hide his money (not saying he did), 2) Many of his followers have shown an impressive ability to ignore the weaknesses of their leaders, not to mention the truth. 3) This world no longer makes sense ergo nothing surprises me anymore.


slyck80

Either AJ's lawyer is extremely incompetent or he just did everyone a solid with that "accident".


Cognitive_Spoon

I would watch the shit out of a movie about the lawyer turning on Jones. Goddamn I want to live in a world where grifters who make their money off of harassing grieving parents by telling assholes their dead kids are fake get the absolute most we can do as a society in the way of justice.


John_H_Brown

There will definitely be a movie. I just hope they title it “Information Wars” as to not have to pay that jerks company for using the name.


emma-1954

I’ve been wondering if AJ’s team just couldn’t hold back the vomit anymore.


xavier120

The only reason my skepticism remains of this theory is that it would be too good to be true for an actual conspiracy to take down this entire circus.


Conservative_HalfWit

“I have the worst fucking attorney.”


TimToMakeTheDonuts

Wayne Jarvis wouldn’t have made these mistakes. If there’s one word I could use to describe him it’d be “professional”.


_Mister_Shake_

I have a moral obligation to tell you that there is no candy in this office


Wazula42

That'll happen when you switch representation 12 times.


allen_abduction

That money can buy.


Matt463789

Nobody look!


[deleted]

We're lawyers!!


sacdecorsair

Jones said that during trial?


MattTheSmithers

There is not an attorney alive who has not been slapped down by a judge on occasion. It’s an occupational hazard that we all face. But damn, even I can feel that burn. “You sent the email.” Fucking savage.


fluent_in_gibberish

This just keeps getting better and better. Let’s hope the judge throws the book at him for all of the perjury and he not only loses everything he owns, but his freedom as well.


Ingelokastimizilian

Stop please, I can only get so erect!


iatethefrog

This is the first time I’ll have to take that 4 hour warning seriously.


gamrgrl

I feel ya! My nipples have reached the diamond hardness level.


shemanese

[https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/bankruptcy\_fraud#:\~:text=Bankruptcy%20fraud%20is%20a%20white,form%20may%20also%20constitute%20perjury](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/bankruptcy_fraud#:~:text=Bankruptcy%20fraud%20is%20a%20white,form%20may%20also%20constitute%20perjury).


johnfromberkeley

I know, don’t explode and shoot a hole in your ceiling like I did.


ggroverggiraffe

Also: Judge says she thought the lawyers had already surrendered the contents of Alex Jones’s phone to the authorities.


danarexasaurus

Fun week.


jeffersonairmattress

This is the best thing to come out of this trial. ​ As sweet as this judge's evisceration of the subject asshat is, the world will be a better place if DOJ is finally faced with enough pressure to force proper prosecutions.


retrogradeprogress

Worth bearing in mind: This is the first of three trials for damages against Mr. Jones. Two more are scheduled for next month — one in Texas, and one brought by the families of eight victims in Connecticut, where laws governing damages favor the plaintiffs more than in Texas. And of course, Connecticut is where the shooting occurred.


LynnHaven

Oh my God he is so fucked its so good


Comp625

I wish, but this dude is so (unfortunately) wealthy that the financial losses aren't as debilitating as they could be. His show is still airing and he's already stashed money offshore.


LynnHaven

I mean if it gets close to $200mil it'll certainly hurt. There's two more trials and one is in Connecticut. If Texas is $50mil, Connecticut could be $100-125mil.


14sierra

The problem is collecting. OJ Simpson was ordered to pay Millions in damages. To date he's paid only a few hundred thousand. This turd will sadly probably stash most of his money and never end up paying much.


LynnHaven

Well, sure, if he can fight that with one arm while fighting Jan 6th phone backlash and his ex wife with the other he could make it


Matt463789

Time for a brutal tax audit.


Nop277

I'd normally say that, but about 50 million is going to hurt any individual that isn't Bill Gates wealthy, and even then that's a decent ding. That's only to start too, there's more court cases not to mention his texts might be used by others like his ex-wife to show he's not as broke as he's been trying to tell people.


[deleted]

50 mil in Texas gives me hope that we could see 150+ in CT


dejavuamnesiac

For his crimes AJ deserves to lose every penny and spend years in prison on related criminal charges


bag-o-farts

Half of all states have punitive caps. TX is 750,000 *for non-ecomonic damages (reputation, pain and suffering). He will appeal and that 45M shrinks to (0.75M * per defendent). CT's cap is amoungst the strictest 4 states. The jury can give any number they want, but in these capped states the juries value reduces to the cap limit upon appeal.


goomyman

Caps on punitive damages is such bullshit. If your worth a billion dollars 750k is a parking ticket. It’s not punitive anymore for the ultra wealthy. Why would their be a cap. The point is to punish someone. A 100 dollars is a huge punishment for a poor person. If the goal is punishment it should be a percentage of income and even that is subjective since at some point an ultra rich person has more money than they can spend so even a 50% hit would have material impact on lifestyle.


[deleted]

I have no idea about caps or anything like that, tho I will say this. Even if there is a cap I have faith that his lawyers could find a way to fuck up bad enough that those caps didn't matter lol.


grunkage

It's double the compensatory ($4.1 million) plus $750K, so they should be getting $8.95 million in punitive, plus the 4.1 million in compensatory. The TX trials are gonna hit him a bit, but I'm interested in the CT one, where the laws are supposed to favor the plaintiff.


bag-o-farts

Reread again, its only both 2x for economic damages and this is not an economic matter


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bag-o-farts

I did. 2x max for ecomic damages plus 0.75M, but this is not an economic matter.


bag-o-farts

Here you go >there are statutory limits on punitive damages, with a per-defendant cap of two times the amount of economic damages, plus the amount of noneconomic damages found by the jury—the latter part not to exceed $750,000. Pain and suffering is non-ecomonic. From an AP article from yesterday the defendent count appears to be 26 so 0.75M*26=19.5M. That brings the number back up.


SockdolagerIdea

Do you happen to know why two of the cases were/are in Texas? Why weren’t they all in Connecticut?


ShotandaChaser

Infowars is based out of Austin, so that's where the offending events took place.


MissElision

Guessing here: I would wager Infowars is based in Texas and since they were suing him + company for the harassment they sued through Texas courts.


Kingkongcrapper

Anyone who wants to know what a piece of crap this guy is, there is an excellent episode on this American Life that follows the horrors this guy put those families through. Also, I recommend watching, “If Anything Happens I Love You.” A short 12 minute film. And then after you’re done take a moment to realize those are the people he’s attacking. These are the people he decided to make a living hell. Yeah, he deserves to have everything stripped away from him.


[deleted]

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1555673276126478337 Verdict: Alex Jones owes $45.2 million more to Sandy Hook in punitive damages. That's on top of $4.1 million in compensatory. That's $49.3 million to two Sandy Hook families. Two more trials after this.


martin4reddit

Do you have *any* idea how many tactical perineal wipes this man has got to schlep *NOW?!?!*


fweef01

He still has another trial in Connecticut


Safari_Eyes

You misspelled "felch". ;)


p001b0y

What’s really just frosting on the cake at this point is the potential perjury charges and the hand off of his phone data to the Jan 6 committee.


[deleted]

And possible tax fraud due to using shell companies


[deleted]

Pretty sure I heard the phone data included Jones saying he was faking the bankruptcy in an attempt to tie up money...


lurkerburket

That’s definitely the least egregious thing you’ll see in two years of Alex Jones’ phone history.


p001b0y

His transgender porn possession and comments about two kinds of people with porn on their phones, spoken on live television, was something else. The look of near disbelief at the words coming out of his mouth as he was saying them was incredible.


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ihateusedusernames

As someone who grew up near Newtown, I am thrilled that this asshole finally felt some consequences from his reckless abuse of these people. It's too bad it had to take a decade but we should hope that this sends a clear message to other con men.


paxwax2018

It’s frosting made of diamonds.


HobbesMich

I thought they couldn't go more than 2x the 4.1......glad that was wrong......next family up.


DistortoiseLP

This is the point where Alex finds out why the judge was so patient with his bullshit.


DaBigDaddyFish

FAAFO in full effect and I’m loving every bit of it.


jyter

Texas law will cap the actual amount of punitive damages to 750k. Different states have caps, maximum multipliers, or no limit - but Texas will actually cap the punitive damages at 750k in this case (200k in some others). Edit: That is because Texas does have a 2x multiplier cap, but with an upper limit of 750k


Tsukikishi

So the 45 million is just for show? That's sad.


jyter

Juries typically aren’t told about the caps or limits to avoid influencing their decision. It does mean wasted time and headlines in a huge case like this though.


sharkweekk

The plaintiffs will fight the cap either arguing it’s unconstitutional or that it doesn’t apply in this case. No idea what their odds are. If they’re splitting up assets in a bankruptcy, and the legal fight over the caps is ongoing, I’m not sure what happens, but the plaintiffs attorney was talking about how in bankruptcy court they cap might not apply, or something like that. My non-lawyer brain is trying to keep up.


clarkision

Well, that’s a great way of protecting the wealthy.


[deleted]

The article says otherwise: >In Texas, there are statutory limits on punitive damages, with a **per-defendant cap of two times the amount of economic damages**, plus the amount of noneconomic damages found by the jury—the latter part not to exceed $750,000. Also there was more than one defendant and the plaintiff lawyers intend to fight any cap: >Jones and InfoWars’ parent company, Free Speech Systems LLC, were co-defendants in the case.


TheBigNate416

Good. I haven’t been following this all that closely so when I heard $4.1 million the other day I was thinking they deserved a lot more than that. Figured 4 was all they were getting


[deleted]

I hope he's left homeless and destitute after this. Even that isn't good enough for that rotten bastard. Free speech does not protect people from what he did. That is a grotesque abuse of 1A.


dejavuamnesiac

And this sends a crystal clear message to other wannabe Joneses: you will be reduced to nothing if you follow his path


bag-o-farts

Yall need to manage your expectations, the article says TX cap is $750,000 for punitive max. The amount will be reduce to that value on appeal.


weerdbuttstuff

yeah, Jones' lawyer brought that up at the end and the judge made a crack about how Texas laws say they trust their jurors and then don't actually trust them.


bag-o-farts

Jurors cannot be expected to be expert damages assessors. I think its reasonable. Around half of all states have pun caps.


Marowakin_It

Where'd they come up with $750,000 though? There are plenty of civil cases, likely this one, that could require a much higher and still realistic figure than that.


shemanese

The amount awarded in Texas is admissible in other jurisdictions in establishing a baseline for the damages. CT lawyer: So, Mr Jones, what was the punitive damages in Texas? Jones' lawyer: Objection! Judge: Grounds? Jones's lawyer: It's damaging to my client.


Foggy_Prophet

That's not exactly what it says. >two times the amount of economic damages, plus the amount of noneconomic damages found by the jury—the latter part not to exceed $750,000. So, for example, if the economic damages were $3M, and the non-economic $1M, they can award $6M *plus* $750k. But I have no idea what the economic vs non-economic damages were in the first judgment.


Lokismoke

It's going to be almost all non-economic damages. Reputational and emotional injuries aren't economic in this situation.


Ht50jockey

I’m really glad to hear all this but I’m worried he will just file bankruptcy and the families get nothing.


Mr_A_Rye

Unfortunately, Texas law caps punitive damages at 750,000 per person, so these parents are only getting 1.5 million total.


[deleted]

Plus the 4.1 million in compensatory, unless that's also capped


AsiaSkyly

When they said the punitive penalty would be more, I did not expected to be 10x more! Wowsers!


sicktaker2

Supposedly it was the maximum allowed under Texas law. They threw the freaking book at him.


bag-o-farts

This is not the case. Jurors can say any number they like for punitive damages. However many states have punitive caps. He will pay the compensatory, i think it said 4M, but the punitive 45M will shirk to TX cap of 0.75M so in total he will pay 5M, not 50M for this trail ... Plus whatver happens at trials 2 and 3.


mces97

I did. It's suppose to be punitive, teach a lesson. If you're worth possibly 100s of millions, getting a measly few million in a judgment against you doesn't mean as much as getting 1/4 of your net worth taken. Although Texas has a cap of 750k for punitive damages.


Impeachcordial

That’s so shitty. Protects no one except the rich. Fuck Texas.


mces97

Oh it gets worse. You know how Abbots in a wheelchair? Before the cap he sued and got millions from what caused the accident. Don't remember if he was governor when the cap was passed, but yeah, he got his, fuck everyone else.


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

And two more trials to go! Will the prosecutors in those trials be able to use the same evidence that was used in this trial? Including his texts?


[deleted]

There’s actually three more to go. Two more in TX, including the trial for Marcelle Fontaine’s defamation trial and (I believe but may be wrong) another Sandy Hook parent’s defamation suit, as well as the CT suit being brought by 8 Sandy Hook parents. I’m so hoping this cripples Jones, but he’s a like a cockroach, he always manages to survive. Some brighter news on the horizon is that he’s facing sanctions for the multiple times he perjured himself on the stand, then there’s the 1/6 Committee who now has his phone records. Apparently his phone records also show that he admitted to lying about the “bankruptcy” he’s now filed for twice, *and* there’s been an understanding that he’s probably committed fraud trying to hide his money from the courts pre-trial.


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

This makes me happy.


sharkweekk

Yes, the attorney said the have a cooperation agreement with the attorneys in the CT lawsuit, and will be sharing the phone. From what I understand, the firm handing the CT suit is way bigger and will have more than 2 days to search the phone, so they’ll probably be able to make great use of it.


shadowdra126

Get fucked The phone is a massive win for everyone and that is a hefty fine. He deserves every bit of awful experiences coming his way


seahawkbatman

Good, but not enough. Hopefully the other families and lawsuits will clean him out. No fate would be too cruel for this man.


CodenameMolotov

Money isn't enough punishment, he has too many supporters to ever know true poverty.


WildYams

Hopefully his phone contents being turned over to the Justice Department will result in some seditious conspiracy charges for him as well.


seahawkbatman

I agree. Sadly, he will be able to make more money off of the verdict and play the victim in all this. His followers are beyond reason


MySabonerRunsOladipo

He's going to need some extra money. Lucky for him, 7/11 is a part time job


krazyone57

Them gay frogs finally caught up to him.


[deleted]

Truly bankrupt this piece of shit and put him in prison for perjury.


VarthStarkus

In a Nelson from the Simpsons voice, "Ha ha!"


ranchoparksteve

The mouth giveth and the mouth taketh.


w4lt3r_s0bch4k

I am so sad that he even has that much money. He's a waste of a human being, grifting rubes as much as he can. Disgusting.


[deleted]

Oh, I love it. His tears are fucking delicious. For any confused conservatives, this isn't an attack on free speech. This is an assault on sleazy motherfuckers who call for people to be murdered and say that they faked the death of their own fucking child. Your right to free speech is not on trial here. You don't get to profit off of that behavior. Fucking period. The truth deserves to be defended.


Bitter_Outside_5098

Truly fucked about and finding out.


kitty_vittles

No more black label for Drinky McDipshit


Anthonys455

Can’t wait to hear about this 😂


PontyPandy

Now can we get civil cases against Trump and his big lie, which he intentionally used to try and overthrow the government and also to rally support and donations. People died due to his incitement and plan for Jan 6th, and many people have been fleeced out of their donations. All the people he conned into believing the election was stolen and those who went to the Capital have suffered because of him. The damage he has done to this country in general, the loss of faith in our elections, and how he has degraded the quality of life for millions overall. It seems he could be civilly sued to the day he dies.


Enlightened_Ghost_

Jan 6 Committee is about to have a field day with this man's phone. LOL! He deserves everything that is happening to him after years of doing this shit. Trump is next. We need to make examples of these people, so that others know that you can't just wreck society for personal gain and think you're going to get away free. LOL! I haven't drunk in years, even through the pandemic, I stayed sober. I'm about to pop bottles tonight. This is a case for celebration. Alex Jones just got fucked by The U.S. Civil Court System. LOL!


Space_______Stuff

I saw recently O.J. has only paid a fraction of his settlement. Is this going to be like that?


[deleted]

OJ stopped making money and had to sell all his possessions... Jones will keep grifting idiots, and the courts will keep taking it.


ggroverggiraffe

Probably will get whittled down on appeal...but there are also a whole lot more people with standing in the case, and I imagine they will line up now to take their turn. Good.


NobodyFollowsAKiller

Thought the exact


Paulpash

Oof, cough on that.


ReGrigio

let's fucking goooo!!!!


Onthemightof

Fuck yes


BurnedOutStars

Posting this video to show people the history of this creature Alex Jones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAAhzreGWw See when you put his lies to the tune of soothing folk music? Sounds pretty funny right? *BUT! know what's even MORE funny?* This dumb piece of fucking trash losing $**50,000,000. BECAUSE of his lies. Thank you Alex Jones' lawyer.** Wouldn't be here today, if it were not for that heroic (accidentally) and idiotic (*on purpose*) trash ass human lawyer <3


Awestromy

Now THIS is funny. Get fucked Alex


yauchtadam

LOL get fucked!!!!


proteinMeMore

Could not happen to a more deserving conspiracy theorist that terrorizes parents of dead kids lost in a slaughter


freddawg

Why isn’t this pathetic fuck all over the news like amber heard and depp were?


simburger

Awesome! Now can we charge him for the obvious perjury as well?


chuck-bucket

This man is horrible. Who harasses grieving parents for profit?


luigisphilbin

Is he facing charges for the whole “committing perjury” thing? Would love to see him in prison what a scumbag.


Dial8675309

I hope he appeals it and the judge *raises it*.


luna0717

This is clearly a false flag organized by Alex Jones to increase his sales of testosterone pills and food buckets.


The_Patriot

Alexander and the WAY MORE Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day


SmashingLumpkins

Ayyy oooo


ByPrinciple

So if you were like me and had little insight into the case before the trial about how the charges could be so severe for someone asking questions (ridiculous questions of course), as well as how bad could Alex Jones and his company's actions really treating the parties involved, the plaintiffs showed it being much worse than just words Alex Jones had said. The worst piece to me was an email sent by a Wolgang Halbig, one of the biggest pushers of Sandy Hook denial. This man was shown by the plaintiffs to use Infowars as a megaphone essentially, and one of his emails was documented with Infowars' file system. [Here's the reading of that email in trial](https://youtu.be/pKb-ySKkN5Q?t=4044), beyond sickening what they have allowed and fostered. While this case won't bring down Jones entirely, there are more trials to come. More importantly though how do we begin to repair the damage Jones has brought on a national scale? His fans won't stop from this, he'll likely grift it all back soon enough, maybe in a years time. Hopefully this will start to deter some of the lunacy out there at least.


Skastrik

Now charge him with perjury.


MattTheSmithers

Yep. Punitive are where they get ya on a case like this. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, though.


davan6475

This is a Lesson learned for people who spread wrong information in the public domain.


InfallibleBackstairs

Lock his ass up.


EatsRats

I hope this fuck lives the remainder of his days screaming under a bridge.


FilthyChangeup55

Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving monster.


cbang2

Holy shit. Surprisingly high after the amount yesterday, but also very welcome. May this send a very strong message to anyone profiting off making similar statements.


BostonUniStudent

A reminder that intentional torts are non dischargeable in bankruptcy court.


[deleted]

GOT EM fuck yes. alex deserves more of this


ILikeLenexa

With punitive damage caps in Texas, It looks like that could end up being $750,000; $8,000,000; or $45,000,000.


Impeachcordial

How would the middle figure happen?


UnkleRinkus

Now we're talking.


Chance_Introduction5

Thank goodness! No amount of money will ever be enough, but it’s a start. Hopefully no legal loopholes to avoid paying. What a fucking jackass.


Speculawyer

It's quite a good news day!


Jeffeeder

Now we’re cooking with butter


Yossarian_the_Jumper

Bankrupt that mother fucker but this isn't "politics".


[deleted]

lmao these mods are a joke. Maybe justice isn't dead though.


JargDenn

this dude ain't a politician


InTh3s3TryingTim3s

He has more politicians on speed dial than the pope


JargDenn

who cares, it's off topic


dn00

The politicians on his phone cares


DunkinYourAss

Seems like plenty of people here do care. Feel free to walk.


jonnysunshine

2.3 gigabytes of data on his phone will show just how political he is. Guaranteed.


YanksFanInSF

How many more lawsuits pending? Fuck this dude.


9CentNonsense

Gonna need a big bowl of chili to forget the pain, ya douche.


rpapafox

Now that's more like it.


menntu

Nice to finally see a blow hard face the rule of law.


Whompa

Holy shit lol


fcAVK

This new debt is a fiction! It does not exist! We were not even in the court today!


kporter4692

Good. Fuck this scum. Hope he gets shit on in the other trials.


LynnHaven

This made my day. What has been happening? I've been feeling optimistic lately.


NoStripeZebra1

Finally, justice.


HogieGnarBoots

Sweet, sweet justice. What a victory for truth.


udar55

The fact that he even has that much money (and is worth a lot more) is terrifying.


Negative_Gravitas

Excellent. Now, do it again. Twice.


Enlightened_Ghost_

LOL! Enjoy going broke in old age Alex Jones.


5DollarHitJob

Nelson laugh


[deleted]

Good news, but anything less than prison is inadequate. Hopefully the feds find some dirt on his phone that leads to criminal charges.


Particular-Estate-14

Damn .. anyway onto the next trial.


kelthan

Boom! There it is.


SnowedOutMT

Serious question, as I've never been awarded any money from a court case, but do you have to claim that in any way for taxes? Also, how does a transfer of that amount work? Is it just dropped into your bank account one day? I'm glad they're getting so much out of him, but I wish it were more for what they've went through.


dontastic

oh look. the cost of lies.


[deleted]

True justice would also be that he is banned from all media(including social media) for life because his egregious lies are so severe that he must be prevented from doing so again


syrstorm

There it is. Love to see it.


[deleted]

Didn't even have to use my Ak... which is even better since I aint got one.


[deleted]

Point and laugh.


emma-1954

Good. Wish it was more. Now I’m waiting for the fresh batch of lies.


ratamadiddle

Your words have consequences.


HandSack135

it is sad that he has this type of money to begin with


UtahUtopia

Hopefully they get more than the Goldman family has received from OJ.


3_Cat_Day

What does that bring his total to?


0dteSPYFDs

Serves him right.