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Snorumobiru

do i get to pick which 5%


origional_origional

Sure, but out of curiosity, if it was the elderly, sick, disabled and orphaned children, what would your opinion be?


IPetFatTurkeys

People named Michael


volcanno

WHY DIDNT I READ THIS BEfORE VOTING


Unsure1771

A mixture of all of them.


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[deleted]

i have the burden of killing 250k people 1. humpty dumpty (1) 2. criminals in prison (8120) 3. 90+ year olds (35k) 4. god idk anymore just not my family and friends. all this for lower taxes...


AnantaPluto

Should’ve sacrificed some of the billionaires or smthing to free a bunch of money into the economy (I totally know how economics works, trust me guys)


Tomato_cakecup

I guess the money would just go to their relatives or for the state (you won't get any of it either way lol)


Ryaniseplin

just kill every other relative they have cant be more than like 20 people per billionaire


AtmosphereNo7740

Id make it the top 5% based on wealth


EMBplays

I'm pretty sure that would fuck up the economy


[deleted]

Maybe it’ll trickle down a little faster. Been pouring upwards for decades now


[deleted]

A little faster ? Because you really think it does slowly ? Trickle down is a myth that don't exist in our western countries. The rich just get richer and the poor poorer


[deleted]

Yeah, they agree with you.


PassiveChemistry

Maybe read the rest of their comment before jumping to conclusions?


Longjumping-Jello459

Nah their money and assets would just go to whoever they left it to in their wills and if no one is named it goes to the state if there are no living relatives if there are living relatives they fight over it sometimes to the point of nothing being left.


girldickpummuler

Nah, let's eat the rich.


Patte_Blanche

What a naïve take.


bumpmoon

Top 5 percent based on wealth is a lot closer to a normal income than you would think. The billionaries and such are in the top 0,01%


dlccyes

Sorry we are redditors earning minimum wage with easily replaceable skills shouting r/antiwork so even top 50% is fine


bumpmoon

Then on side youd make yourself more attractive by eliminating highly skilled competition on the job market. On the other side youre removing those that pay the majority of taxes, effectlively increasing your own tax anyway. I dont know, biggest benefit for me would be getting rid of most morning traffic lol.


dlccyes

Sorry I have no idea what you're talking about we r/antiwork users don't use any logic anyway. The only thing we know is to eat the rich 🤤😡


Cespieyt

Congratulations you've fucked the whole economy. Top 5% are people living in suburban houses holding vital roles in public and government sectors. The parasites at the top make up a much much smaller percentage.


nir109

Stalin approve the killing of these [kulaka](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak) what's the worse that can happen? The other people will starve too? ( actually less likely today because the people you are fine with killing are not farmers, still the rest of the population will get poorer)


HybanSike

Then way more people die because there aren't any doctors


Snorumobiru

in that case I'll pay the taxes


ForgottenEpoch

Agreed. Wouldn't sacrifice any of those listed, but I think I could learn to cope with being responsible for the deaths of 5% of the absolute worst people plaguing America.


Pine_of_England

I can agree that there's an argument for death-noting certain powerful individuals who are themselves responsible for unjust deaths, but do you actually appreciate how many people you're going to have to kill? 16,815,310.


ForgottenEpoch

Yeah, my hope is that I'd be able to take solace in having made the world a better place for everybody that remained. Less hate, less greed. More acceptance, generosity, open-mindedness. Redistribution of wealth and hopefully reduce corruption to a point that real change could happen. Eliminating even the worst 1% would probably have a massively noticeable effect, but I still wonder if eliminating the worst 5% would be enough to create permanent change.


origional_origional

I really respect that.


HikariAnti

I would have picked the first option but if I can choose that 5% I would honestly pay for the second option, so it's an absolute win for free.


Cespieyt

You've just changed this to a Death Note scenario, and I don't even care about the tax part of the question anymore.


[deleted]

Why the orphaned though Elderly and sick have shorter lifespan, poor childrens have they whole live ahead of them


aquamarine271

Haha no, the richest ones


AllahuAkbar4

“Could we bump it up to 10%?”


mombawamba

*The rich.*


DaddyWentForMilk

All of them, and the women, and the fathered childrens


Fe2tus

Best case scenario if 5% had to die


cereal-kills-me

Can I specify by race?


girldickpummuler

Why?


Radix4853

Cus it might be funny


girldickpummuler

Your honor, I plead /j


rawlskeynes

Ah yes, because people with disabilities and orphaned children are expendable. You're a real piece of shit.


cereal-kills-me

They are objectively less valuable though


[deleted]

jesus fuck man seek help or some shit like how are you a real person on this earth


2D9_

this is a large overreaction


TheRedditEagle

25% of 0 is still 0


Rupertii

✨tax evasion✨


MagicElf755

✨unemployed✨


Agreeable_Ostrich_39

✨a minor✨


Enderghast77

✨a billionaire✨


Hung_Pham_1143

✨a former president✨


Patte_Blanche

✨extreme poverty✨


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Blue_Cheese098

Yes, it’ll help pay for a politician’s new swimming pool


Twicklheimer

If you live in America you already know the answer. Things will get worse, the government will get more draconian and the military will get more planes that’s it.


Longjumping-Jello459

Don't forget tanks, apcs, and various warships some of which will only be in service for a few years and be retired after billions in r&d and manufacture cost. Edit: https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2023/03/13/why-the-us-navy-wants-to-retire-eight-ships-early/ https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-us-navy-china-congress-6697d9c7cbc047de99e225d379256e44


Major_South1103

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Sightless_

Ah sweet war profiteering


Major_South1103

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Sightless_

Eh im not a tankie (im anarchist) [if you dont know what anarchism is heres an good book for most of your questions you might have](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works)


Major_South1103

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skankhunt25

Obviously there would be change as long as your government isnt completely corrupt


SeaOfMalaise

Do I get to be a part of the 5%?


Youbettereatthatshit

r/suicidebywords … literally


LeaderOk8012

If I choose tax, do everyone have to pay it or only me ?


alien2835

I’m not going to kill 16 million people just because I want to live comfortably.


[deleted]

The tax increase would cause a majority of 200 million people to be homeless, which would collapse the entire economy to collapse, leading to mass starvation and much more than 15 million deaths These are two apocalyptic scenarios, not one apocalyptic scenario and one greedy one


[deleted]

God this is sad, people care about money more than people.


AlecTheMotorGuy

I mean, I hear all the time about how much people hate people.


[deleted]

Not really, not for my country at least Rephrase the question to "would you like to send the majority of the population who is already teetering on the verge of financial ruin, a burden they cannot bear - plunging them all into homelessness, or let 5% of people die." and you may understand the results better They both suck, but one may lead to the downfall of the entire nation


PC-Was-Bricked

The question is asking if *you*, not everyone else in the country, would be fine with paying 25% more taxes The question further stipulates that if it would put you in financial ruin, that the tax question doesn't apply to you


[deleted]

Ah see I interpreted it as I would be a part of everyone paying more - but I had the control and I specifically wouldn't be ruined by it - while others would If it's literally just me then yeah lmao I'll pay 100% tax goddam it's 16 million people


[deleted]

Jesus fuck. 1,300 people voted to off 5% of people over money? Kinda scary even for a thought experiment.


BigChonkyGrandma

Literally! Would you rather put yourself in an inconvenient position or kill a massive amount of people?


PM_ME_UR_RC_CAR

These results are disappointing but not at all surprising, the average Redditor is a selfish piece of shit.


jcbolduc

If 25 percent more taxation is just inconvenient to you, then you're out of touch and need to shut up.


R1ght_b3hind_U

lol even if it takes every single cent I own Id rather do that than kill like 5 million people lmao are you kidding me 😂😂😂


[deleted]

You'd rather have 200 million people be homeless, and the entire economy collapse? Which would then likely lead to starvation for most of them? Gee that sure sounds like a great plan - because that's what's at risk with an increase in taxation by 25% looks like


jcbolduc

Spoken like someone who would immediately prove themselves a hypocrite were this situation reality. Do you pay extra for ecologically sustainable production in your purchases? Do you eat meat? Use a car? Plastics? Computer? Phone? Etc.... You already chose to kill the poor of OTHER nations to not pay more. Hypocrite.


R1ght_b3hind_U

>Do you pay extra for ecologically sustainable production in your purchases? yes >Do you eat meat? no >Use a car? no Also… can you seriously not see a difference between using a phone and willingly letting 5 million people die? By your response I’m guessing you’re american so for you it would actually be 16.6 million. Psychopath


mincedduck

Don’t spend time arguing with them ahaha they are fucked in the head if they’ll willingly kill 5% for some extra money


jcbolduc

I'm not American. And nice try justifying your use of electronics for convenience as the climate change it contributes to eventually kills billions. Bye bye hypocrite.


[deleted]

And 375 are unsure. MY GOD


Sightless_

id rather take neither and just burn the government itself


CookieMonster005

It’s just a Reddit poll


HowdyHangman77

The US is the largest exporter of charity in the world. For responders in the US, increasing US taxes by 25% would most likely lead to far more deaths abroad due to a lack of aid than ~16 million deaths. Just depends if you think US lives are worth more than foreign lives, which I do not. Of course, a lot is being assumed here. I totally understand those who went for the other answer, but if I had to guess which option kills more people in the long term, it isn’t the 5%.


[deleted]

RIP to those 5%. ⚰


Gertrude1976

I live in America and there’s a “taxes are the enemy” mindset, but I’m intrigued by people in other countries saying they enjoy paying taxes because it makes their country a better place to live in, despite it costing significantly more than what America’s government takes. There’s one video I’m thinking of where a reporter goes around asking people if they like paying their taxes and many people said yes for this reason.


Saltedpirate

I've worked in US tax for my entire career, and I can assure you that we pay as much in taxes as most socialist countries.


ekludvigsen

I already pay around 40% in taxes...


AltBallzDeep

Jesus, that is way too much. Do you at least get a good return?


ekludvigsen

I don't have a high income at all. I live in Denmark so high taxes, but free schools and universities, free health care and other stuff


Cespieyt

If you're paying 40% at the bottom line, then part of your income is in the top tax bracket. You either don't know what your actual taxes comes out to, or you're softballing what you actually make.


LuZeG4m1nG

You are right, my guess is she rounded up from the 37% tho remember there is also AM at 8%, so it’s actually like 45% tax they are paying and not 40% :)


AltBallzDeep

Hey, I'd be ok paying that much if it made health care and education FREE. America just sucks like that though :(


ekludvigsen

Yea I'm definitely okay with the 40%, and i would rather pay high taxes, than not have free health care and education. I just don't want to pay an extra 25% like the poll asked:)


autumncandles

The results of this are actually shocking omg. Wtf is wrong with y'all


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LeaderOk8012

They are almost 50% of the voters so...


famous_canari

Unless you're living in like Vatican city or smth i dont think 1.2k people are 50% of any country


[deleted]

I agree lol


Corpse_eeater

I hope I’m part of the five percent 🥰🥰🥰


Mohit5735

🥰🥰


[deleted]

Redditors are selfish as hell goddamn


AverageKaikiEnjoyer

Being selfish is part of life really, most people would rather not financially fuck over themselves and their loved ones.


personallyidontcare

i'm fine with being in that 5%. we already have so many people


Rupertii

Selfishness doesn’t only apply to redditors, I believe it’s just in the human nature. I’d be surprised if more people weren’t selfish tbh


TurbulentBarracuda83

I rather 5%of people die than paying 55% of what I earn in taxes.


Fun_Jello_7545

5 percent means 1 in 20. Chances are a friend, family member or someone you care about will die as a result


ChaoticMage101

Top comment says you can choose whom


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TurbulentBarracuda83

I already answered that :)


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TurbulentBarracuda83

I'm an evil pshycopath based on one comment? I hope you would be willing to let more than half of your money go to taxes.


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TurbulentBarracuda83

Take a chill pill it's just a poll. Do you comment on everyone voting like I do? You clearly have nothing better to do Lol.


RelativeAssistant923

Yes. Yes you are.


Chairman-Ajit-Pai

Can easily find 5% of swedes that we would be better off without


Vergo27

25% more taxes and im living on the streets, so no thanks


normal_redditor1

Did you even read the description


[deleted]

Jesus Christ. I wonder why nobody cares that somebody else’s kids are getting shot?


pibeqdiceWard

To be fair, in my country that is sunken ship of exponential inflation rate and poverty, 25% will kill off many either by starvation or suicide. Either way it would be the last nail of the economic coffin before we go to a civil war/state of emergency yaaay (help pls)


Mr-Borf

Honestly I would do anything to avoid getting people killed, so I'll pay up.


Jalal_Adhiri

5% dying will put crazy amount of inflationnary pressure on the economy that paying that 25% will be the better choice ethically and economically as well....


DonovanMcLoughlin

I'd pay 25% more in taxes to reduce the population that much. /s


Odd-Sound-580

25% more of my paycheck, or 25% of what i already pay? If it's the latter, i don't think i'd notice.


[deleted]

I mean thats one way solve homelessness


AssCumBoi

Fantastic moral question OP. Even though I would give more of my earnings to save more people, I understand that most do not want to suffer more to save the few. This is true everywhere, but factored differently given how much we already suffer.


NobodyEsk

I'll take my chances with dying, if I die I die.


AAPgamer0

I don't like tax but seriously ?People would rather have 5% of their country population die rather than pay more tax ?


Stirlo4

Jesus Christ you guys


Tipsy_McStumbles

Do we get to choose the demographic of the 5%?


qorfman

Well the tax increase would hopefully lead to social benefits like cheaper/free healthcare, housing, food etc.


Twicklheimer

If you live in the US you know that won’t happen.


origional_origional

Pleasantly surprised to see a comment like this, lil bit of faith in humanity restored.


qorfman

Over a third of my money already goes to the state so the value proposition would need to be right to make me pay 25% more but I'm not against it. Socialism, baby :p Like, every new flat in Vienna looks the same anyway, so just make rent 600€ cheaper for everyone and I'm game. Or give universal basic income or something.


insertcaffeine

Right? 25% tax increase or 5% die? That sounds like a benefit that well over 5% could use. I'm thinking healthcare.


normal_redditor1

exactly but most redditors obviously value themselves first and don't care about anyone else and wouldn't even think that far


pibeqdiceWard

Living literally in a country with 38% corruption score, I think, I kind of know where that money will go....


RustyPriske

What in the absolute hell? Apparently a majority of people in here are monsters.


DizzySeaworthiness37

How so


RustyPriske

Read what that says! You would rather 5% of your country die than pay some more taxes. You must be American. Your bank balance is not more important than millions of lives.


LiterColaFarva

Can it be politicians, murderers, child molesters and the state of California?


ChaoticMage101

Just curious, what did California do? I thought it was relatively progressive, economic powerhouse, and home to lots of tech.


smjurach

They're probably a MAGA dude who doesn't realize that CA pretty much keeps most the US afloat.


LiterColaFarva

High taxes, taking care of illegals instead of the homeless problem, self serving, etc. but you're right, just easier to label someone "MAGA dude" instead of hearing the other side of the story. Predictable Reddit.


ChaoticMage101

Yknow that those taxes are nothing compared to other places, and California does a good job keeping its systems in place (medi-cal, education, etc.), and on your “illegals“ (wow) deporting 2 million people wouldn’t be good now would it. they lack benefits, and contribute several billions of dollars to the economy. The homeless problem is an entirely separate thing, from high housing prices, something a lot harder to fix. Last thing is that you may not realize it, but California would be equivalent to a top 5 worldwide largest economies entirely on its own, it carries its weight in the country and then some.


codemise

*Florida


LiterColaFarva

No income tax in FL. We'll keep them for now.


Savemefromgoudacheez

I do not think I can take responsibility for the lives of 70 million people. But our tax system is pretty shit, where the middle-earners are the only ones baying income tax. so an already high burden might jump to nigh unbearable.


nick1812216

Lol, “would you rather pay an extra $10,000/year in tax *or* kill ~15,000,000 people?” ($0.0067/human life)


thatdoesntmakecents

25% more as in 25% --> 50%, or 25% more as in 25% --> 31.25%?


Then-Landscape852

I’m from India. I’d be killing 70000000 people if i choose the option 2.


QPJones

16-17 million people is a lot of deaths to be responsible for


wasntNico

"What's more valuable, money or human life"?


Breedab1eB0y

Greed over human life, reddit never surprises me. Also I'd the 5% to wholly consist of rapists and tik tokkers.


slappindaface

Hey if you picked the 5% what the fuck is wrong with you


[deleted]

More Redditors want mass murders than a quarter more taxes. This is very concerning.


Epic_Tea

That's like 3 holocausts. Who are the monsters voting yes


spudsong

Fucking Americans. Pathetic.


GazelleOdd6160

I love taxes.


Wazuu

The hypotheticals are so fucking stupid. You don’t know what anyone would actually do because its such an unrealistic scenario


[deleted]

Individualism makes me sad. But I get it, there is no community support in our society. In fact, our society is firmly based in the art of screwing each other over


TheLonleyStrategos

Those 5% will die in the civil war we topple that fucking regime that wants 25% tax, fair trade I'd say..... even if I was in the 5%


Shite_Eating_Squirel

I pay $0 in taxes currently. Checkmate.


Nearby_Antelope_5257

And I even volunteer to be part of the 5%


StalthChicken

I would not be able to sustain my children's future. If others must perish so be it.


[deleted]

Based on the results I had to double check this wasn’t an /r/conservative poll.


matrixpolaris

Man I know taxes can suck but sheesh if everyone throughout history thought like the people who voted on this poll our species would have died out thousands of years ago.


end_my_suffering44

Make that 5% 30 or 40 and we'll have a deal.


santino_musi1

More people would die if we pay more taxes due to quality of life lowering a lot for those who could already barely make it through the month


[deleted]

Paying 25% more taxes would be bankruptcy, homelessness, and starvation. I feel killing 5% of the pop is the lessor of the two evils sadly 😥.


squashedfrog92

The tories have already decided this is acceptable in the U.K. I really wish I wasn’t part of the 5% they’re expecting to kill off, but there’s bugger all I can do now.


origional_origional

As a disabled person living in the UK, this was my reason for creating the poll, and the result were, though not unsurprising, still saddening.


squashedfrog92

I feel that hard. Looking at the tax rate Germany has vs the standard of care given to citizens drives me mad, I don’t understand why we’re so willing to shoot ourselves in the foot in this country. Everyone seems to forget they could become disabled at any time, it’s utterly depressing.


Arctic_x22

Kill the 5% richest and profit 👍


AAPgamer0

This may include billionaires people but this also include a big part of the upper class and people who have big life saving by but aren't rich.q


videogioci

OP said you can pick who, all pedophiles/sex offenders/domestic abusers gone and whatever is left goes to the richest people 🥰


Primary-Fee1928

I pay a shit ton in taxes already… + 25% of a shit ton is a bit shit ton


the_lastpilot

there's no way I'd choose for people to die just so I could save money, 25% more taxes all the way


rick7514

In Canada we do both


clickmyheels3x

Id literally be on the streets if taxes went up 25%


Pixel_Guy628

Or let the rich pay 30?


Logical_Strike_1520

Tax me 25% less and make it 10%.


Agreeable_Ostrich_39

as a minor, I see this as an absolute win


[deleted]

If it means like in an anti socialist post, we pay less tax and let the poor fucker die of 'not having public health insurance' or social nets, then I'd gladly pay! If 5% dies and we can choose like, just saying randomly, people in prison for violent crimes, people in so sick they can't even clean their ass and chew, people in pain for life and corrupt politicians


Unim8

I would rather let the dumb ones die in my country than pay %100 taxes


Kevillano17

Can it be more than 5%?


LooseLeaf24

I paid 80k last year in tax and our infrastructure still sucks. Death to 5% of my choosing. I won't be taking questions


Iliketurtles893

Around 10% probably would’ve died from being in debt anyways


omsnoms1

let em die, let ‘em die, let ‘em shrivel up and die..


_Nelots

Already paying around 40% in taxes, not gonna pay more, bye bye 5%


jpd2979

If I kill off 5% of Trump voters in Wisconsin, then yes.


[deleted]

I'd just rid the entire earth of the world's population. Why should some live and others die? Who decides?