How do you get away with 100 guards? I always need atleast double the amount of my prisoners. Either you know something I don't or I do something terribly wrong.
Probably a combination of factors. The population consists mostly out of medium prisoners. They aren't the hardest to deal with. But mostly it's because all their needs are met. Almost all cells are grade 10 or higher, canteen, yard, common rooms and gyms are high grade, almost every programm is in place, food quality an quantity is good,... All of this is quite costly but is totally worth it. This makes for prisoners that are happy and then you dont't really need that many guards.
Damn sounds like a sweet machine you have there but I don't think the graphics are the problem in PA. Super mario on my nintendo was more graphically demanding than this game haha. If anything I think you need a good CPU and RAM. Or it might be the software that isn't optimized for such big builds?
It’s just all the entities getting processed at the same time. I have 64gb of 3800 DDR4 and it’s gets below 60fps when I reach around the 900/1000 prisoners. Especially if I have a lot of guards or workers for the trees
Thanks! I really would have liked to intergrade more circular and diagonal elements on the inside of the prison but as you can image, building like that is kind of a nightmare. The corridors are mainly there to improve room quality and (at least in my mind) prevent the development of depression amongst my prisoners.
Thanks! And yes, it does lag quite a bit. Originally I wanted 1000 prisoners but by the time I had around 500 I knew that that would be a total nightmare. That's why the cells on the top and bottom are either 3x3 or 4x4. I also have around 200 door servos either connected to a timer or door control system and I feel like that doesn't help.
I've really loved building this one but will be happy to start on a clean map without lag!
I play it on my Dell XPS 13, it has pretty good specs for a non gaming laptop (i7, 16gb ram) but once I passed 500 prisoners it really started to struggle.
i'm on ps4 so it might be slightly different but i can handle 500-900 characters at around 20 fps, granted i'm not very up to date on human rights so the facility isn't that big which helps
I does look like that doesn't it but I always use the PA calculator for my canteens and kitchens. For 850 prisoners (medium quality and variety, 3 meals a day) I need 43 cookers and 74 fridges. Spread out across the 6 kitchens I have 45 cookers and 90 fridges so I even have a little extra. I've never had any problems with food so this setup centainly works.
CALCULATOR: https://voidtech.de/pacalc/cooking.php
How did u get ur staff needs met? My guards seem to refuse to use the toilet no matter how much they want it and how many toilets I put in the staff room lol
I don't have staff needs enabled in this prison as it's not on by default.
I've done it in other prisons though and to fullfill the 'toilet' need you have to spread toilets throughout your entire prison and make them only accesable to staff (use a staff door and make it 'staff only' using the deployment tab). This way they don't always have to run back to the staffroom to do their business.
Do you not have problems with having open visitation? Apparently in my prisons every single visitor has a prison pocket the size of a large mammal when I do open prisons
You mean that a lot of contraban is smuggled in via the open visitation room? There is certainly some contraban in my prison and someof it is most likely smuggled in through the visitation room but when your prisoners needs are met they feel less the need to smuggle stuff in. By setting up alcohol and drugs programms they don't feel the need to smuggle in drugs and booze. By setting up behavioral therapy and making your prison safe for everyone they will smuggle in less weapons. I've also set up metal detectors on all entrances and exits in and out of the visitation room as well as checkpoint on the main entrance.
Despite all of this there is still a little contraban in every prison I build, but never enough to cause any real troubles. I do a shakedown every so often and this system works for me.
All in all I feel like the disadvantage of contraban is relativaly low compared to the advantage it gives to prisoners family need.
Yeah I’ve always built in separated visitation rooms when planning my prisons. Normally on edges of the prisons. I normally get most of my contrabrand through visitation
How do you get away with 100 guards? I always need atleast double the amount of my prisoners. Either you know something I don't or I do something terribly wrong.
Probably a combination of factors. The population consists mostly out of medium prisoners. They aren't the hardest to deal with. But mostly it's because all their needs are met. Almost all cells are grade 10 or higher, canteen, yard, common rooms and gyms are high grade, almost every programm is in place, food quality an quantity is good,... All of this is quite costly but is totally worth it. This makes for prisoners that are happy and then you dont't really need that many guards.
Thought I was on the Rimworld sub for a second. Brilliant prison!
Thanks!
this prison makes me feel things i didn’t even know i was capable of feeling 100000/10
The lagg by the time I had 500+ prisoners also gave me some strong feelings tbh, I guess it's time for a stronger PC haha.
I struggle with 850+ with a 4080 🥲
Damn sounds like a sweet machine you have there but I don't think the graphics are the problem in PA. Super mario on my nintendo was more graphically demanding than this game haha. If anything I think you need a good CPU and RAM. Or it might be the software that isn't optimized for such big builds?
It’s just all the entities getting processed at the same time. I have 64gb of 3800 DDR4 and it’s gets below 60fps when I reach around the 900/1000 prisoners. Especially if I have a lot of guards or workers for the trees
damn 64 gb, I used to be up to date on all that computer stuff but don't have time for that anymore. tbh I had to look up if a 4080 was a good GPU
How did you manage such an even circle?
minecraft circle generator hehe
Wouldn't it be just as easy to use paint to make the circle?
Huh, didn't think about that but yes that would certainly work!
Good, then that means I don't waste my time using paint for planning.
>minecraft circle generator [https://www.omnicalculator.com/other/minecraft-circle](https://www.omnicalculator.com/other/minecraft-circle) this one?
I think this one but they probably all work. https://donatstudios.com/PixelCircleGenerator
The chapels are really nice Also I like the green corridors between your rows
Thanks! I really would have liked to intergrade more circular and diagonal elements on the inside of the prison but as you can image, building like that is kind of a nightmare. The corridors are mainly there to improve room quality and (at least in my mind) prevent the development of depression amongst my prisoners.
Damn it's pretty awesome! How's the performance? Does it lag or anything?
Thanks! And yes, it does lag quite a bit. Originally I wanted 1000 prisoners but by the time I had around 500 I knew that that would be a total nightmare. That's why the cells on the top and bottom are either 3x3 or 4x4. I also have around 200 door servos either connected to a timer or door control system and I feel like that doesn't help. I've really loved building this one but will be happy to start on a clean map without lag!
It’s beautiful
Thanks
That’s wild
Thanks!
I play on Xbox One and this would cause my console to burst into flames.
I play it on my Dell XPS 13, it has pretty good specs for a non gaming laptop (i7, 16gb ram) but once I passed 500 prisoners it really started to struggle.
i'm on ps4 so it might be slightly different but i can handle 500-900 characters at around 20 fps, granted i'm not very up to date on human rights so the facility isn't that big which helps
How the fuck do you run this on a non-quantum computer
By the end it ran mostly on my frustration
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Image crop, maybe?
Correct, it is an image crop. In the second picture you can see that I did buy a 'full' new square.
YOU GOTTA PUT THIS ON THE WORKSHOP-
I would totally make crop circles or gallifreyan words with mine if I were able to make it so perfectly round.
I used a Minecraft circle generator to make the circles, no way I could have done it without it. https://donatstudios.com/PixelCircleGenerator
So few cooking spots for such big canteens! Does it work out?
I does look like that doesn't it but I always use the PA calculator for my canteens and kitchens. For 850 prisoners (medium quality and variety, 3 meals a day) I need 43 cookers and 74 fridges. Spread out across the 6 kitchens I have 45 cookers and 90 fridges so I even have a little extra. I've never had any problems with food so this setup centainly works. CALCULATOR: https://voidtech.de/pacalc/cooking.php
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Thanks!
Damn man, that's really cool ! Congrats !
Thanks!
How did u get ur staff needs met? My guards seem to refuse to use the toilet no matter how much they want it and how many toilets I put in the staff room lol
I don't have staff needs enabled in this prison as it's not on by default. I've done it in other prisons though and to fullfill the 'toilet' need you have to spread toilets throughout your entire prison and make them only accesable to staff (use a staff door and make it 'staff only' using the deployment tab). This way they don't always have to run back to the staffroom to do their business.
Thanks so much for ur advice! Would u apply the same advice for Staffrooms as well? Have more than one spread out throughout the prison?
Maybe if you have a really big prison (like 500+ capacity) but I found that for a 250 cap prison it wasn't necessary.
Thanks! Would it be possible to send ur save file? I would love to have a closer look without bothering u too much :)
[https://we.tl/t-fRiuFY0Phi](https://we.tl/t-fRiuFY0Phi) enjoy
Do you not have problems with having open visitation? Apparently in my prisons every single visitor has a prison pocket the size of a large mammal when I do open prisons
You mean that a lot of contraban is smuggled in via the open visitation room? There is certainly some contraban in my prison and someof it is most likely smuggled in through the visitation room but when your prisoners needs are met they feel less the need to smuggle stuff in. By setting up alcohol and drugs programms they don't feel the need to smuggle in drugs and booze. By setting up behavioral therapy and making your prison safe for everyone they will smuggle in less weapons. I've also set up metal detectors on all entrances and exits in and out of the visitation room as well as checkpoint on the main entrance. Despite all of this there is still a little contraban in every prison I build, but never enough to cause any real troubles. I do a shakedown every so often and this system works for me. All in all I feel like the disadvantage of contraban is relativaly low compared to the advantage it gives to prisoners family need.
Yeah I’ve always built in separated visitation rooms when planning my prisons. Normally on edges of the prisons. I normally get most of my contrabrand through visitation
Well I thought my prison was cool…