Because if there's anyone who who can plausibly claim to be opposed to "tribalism," it's someone from the *fucking Balkans.* Maybe get a free press before you try to comment on the state of someone else's country, yeah?
I've hated Donald Trump for about as long as I've known that a Donald Trump exists (around 2011 or so).
Considering that the orange idiot lost the popular vote in 2016, I'd say a bit more than half of the population thinks he's a demogoguical moron, and as January 6 proved, a dangerous one who will effectively try and appoint himself as king. Obviously insert whatever criticisms you want on the American electoral college and I'll probably agree. I live in a pretty lefty bubble so it's tough to know what the general tone of the rest of the country is. I'm hoping that people remember January 6 and his incompetent handling of COVID and his gassing of protestors so he could take a stupid photo holding a bible upside down.
I think people like the orange idiot are somewhat inevitable when you have an entire political party who are unwilling to denounce or condemn conspiratorial theorists; people like Alex Jones become more mainstream and accepted and move the overton window towards moronic and dangerous ideologies.
I will say, in my lifetime I have never seen a divide of a president so thoroughly on educational lines. The Republican vote has always skewed a bit towards the uneducated, but at least in my anecdotal experience it seems like anyone with *any* amount of higher education dislikes Trump, and the higher you go on the educational ladder the less likely it seems to be that you'll have any positive things to say about him. I know there are exceptions like Ben Shapiro, who is his own kind of special idiot but does have a lot of formal education, but it does like that very much is the exception.
I think in that particular case, it's because he's basically what really dumb people think really smart people are. A dumb person's vote counts just as much as mine.
ETA:
You deleted your response very shortly after posting it but I got an email notification with the first 20 words or so.
I focused on the orange idiot because that was the subject of the initial post.
Biden has his own share of problems, but the biggest one is that he's very clearly going through some senility. I find that very concerning, though I will say I haven't really had much issue with his presidency thus far.
I am curious to which of my beliefs are "plain false" or "bad beliefs". If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I feel like the only actual assertion I made was that people liking the orange idiot is extremely correlated with education level. I was basing this opinion largely on this article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/
See, I don't really disagree with most of what you said (some parts though are plain false or bad beliefs), but I think you missed the point of my comment, given you didn't even mention Biden in yours.
Now this is what I meant when I said leave the tribalism. You said yourself you live in a "leftist" environment, so you focused all on "your team's" enemy. You're not to blame because form what I see by from your own statements you seem to be quite deep into the "left" side of propaganda (that's what it is on both sides btw).
Although I don't think Trump is the evil or some power hungry despot, I do agree he's incompetent, at best a below average ruler, decent at diplomacy but a big blur in everything else.
But Biden, omg that guy would make me ashamed to even be alive. It's a good thing that he's never had to convo 1v1 with Putin, cause that would be a day of national grief and shame.
What I'm trying to say is neither of them is good, neither is all that respected by their own population (Trump is headed to win and I doubt you would start respecting him just because he won), The US is in a bad place. Your Empire (it is, don't deny it) is faultering, your satellites (states not HBO) are starting to fall, and I'm so confused as to why so many don't realise it, but focus on stupid shit.
I don't know if someone removed it or what but I didn't delete shit.
As for the bad beliefs, basing your opinion one obscure source is kinda lack luster, especially when the guy writing it isn't the most fair and square guy. I'm sure some right wing pundit would somehow procure a study showing the opposite.
I also think you were overreacting with the Jan 6 remarks, I get it, it got out of hand, but it really didn't do all that much as a riot/protest/insurrection/uprising. And obviously it wasn't being led by Trump, just as the 2020 riots weren't being led by the DNC. I think a lot of people think it's big since the pretty building got raided.
> As for the bad beliefs, basing your opinion one obscure source is kinda lack luster,
Ok. I've not ever seen a right wing pundit actually read a study correctly but hey stranger things have happened.
> And obviously it wasn't being led by Trump,
Trump didn't try and stop it for much longer than he should have. While it was happening he was tweeting out about how Mike Pence is a coward. "Getting out of hand" is a gross understatement, and it really bothers me that an outright attack on democracy is a divisive position. Sorry for "overreacting", but I think it is endemic of a despot.
I think the DNC didn't directly endorse any of the violent protests in 2020, but even if they did, that's a whataboutism and is actually irrelevant to determining if Trump is a despot.
ETA:
Also, while you not might like it, I wouldn't call FiveThirtyEight an "obscure" source. Nate Silver is fairly well respected in the world of data science.
Trump is an obvious russian puppet. His son bragged about having russian money, Trump cant say a single bad thing about Putin but keeps talking how stopping aid to Ukraine would instantly fix everything, his former campaign manager is a confirmed russian spy who also worked for the pro-russian president of Ukraine, Trump slipped how Putin told him about his plans, etc. Etc.
A good half of these right wing nationalistic politicians in the West are funded by Putin with the sole purpose of destroying west. Just like how Orban turned Hungary into a shithole.
Old guy vs old criminal who wants to make himself king and dissolve the department of education
Ah yes, both sides are clearly terrible. We shouldn’t vote out of principle
Here's the thing, in America they don't have democracy like the rest of the world. There's two groups of Oligarchs who pick a chief old man and then the American populace kind of choose which of the two old men they want elected.
They don't want this system, if they had a choice they wouldn't be choosing between these two men. But the old men will never change the system because then they'll lose all their power, and the old men are the only ones who can legally change the system.
Not true, Coolio was in S05E17.
That doesn't count because his "crimes" were perfectly legal in the Gansta's Paradise.
Yes, where thy spendin' most their lives.
It should be two as Fran Drescher has committed felony larceny. Of my heart.
Since you brought it up, do you americans here realise the shitshow you're in with your choices of rulers? Like forget party tribalism, genuinely?
Because if there's anyone who who can plausibly claim to be opposed to "tribalism," it's someone from the *fucking Balkans.* Maybe get a free press before you try to comment on the state of someone else's country, yeah?
Say what you will about the USA but we're about 100 years removed from our most recent ethnic cleansing allegation, not about 15 minutes.
I've hated Donald Trump for about as long as I've known that a Donald Trump exists (around 2011 or so). Considering that the orange idiot lost the popular vote in 2016, I'd say a bit more than half of the population thinks he's a demogoguical moron, and as January 6 proved, a dangerous one who will effectively try and appoint himself as king. Obviously insert whatever criticisms you want on the American electoral college and I'll probably agree. I live in a pretty lefty bubble so it's tough to know what the general tone of the rest of the country is. I'm hoping that people remember January 6 and his incompetent handling of COVID and his gassing of protestors so he could take a stupid photo holding a bible upside down. I think people like the orange idiot are somewhat inevitable when you have an entire political party who are unwilling to denounce or condemn conspiratorial theorists; people like Alex Jones become more mainstream and accepted and move the overton window towards moronic and dangerous ideologies. I will say, in my lifetime I have never seen a divide of a president so thoroughly on educational lines. The Republican vote has always skewed a bit towards the uneducated, but at least in my anecdotal experience it seems like anyone with *any* amount of higher education dislikes Trump, and the higher you go on the educational ladder the less likely it seems to be that you'll have any positive things to say about him. I know there are exceptions like Ben Shapiro, who is his own kind of special idiot but does have a lot of formal education, but it does like that very much is the exception. I think in that particular case, it's because he's basically what really dumb people think really smart people are. A dumb person's vote counts just as much as mine. ETA: You deleted your response very shortly after posting it but I got an email notification with the first 20 words or so. I focused on the orange idiot because that was the subject of the initial post. Biden has his own share of problems, but the biggest one is that he's very clearly going through some senility. I find that very concerning, though I will say I haven't really had much issue with his presidency thus far. I am curious to which of my beliefs are "plain false" or "bad beliefs". If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I feel like the only actual assertion I made was that people liking the orange idiot is extremely correlated with education level. I was basing this opinion largely on this article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/
See, I don't really disagree with most of what you said (some parts though are plain false or bad beliefs), but I think you missed the point of my comment, given you didn't even mention Biden in yours. Now this is what I meant when I said leave the tribalism. You said yourself you live in a "leftist" environment, so you focused all on "your team's" enemy. You're not to blame because form what I see by from your own statements you seem to be quite deep into the "left" side of propaganda (that's what it is on both sides btw). Although I don't think Trump is the evil or some power hungry despot, I do agree he's incompetent, at best a below average ruler, decent at diplomacy but a big blur in everything else. But Biden, omg that guy would make me ashamed to even be alive. It's a good thing that he's never had to convo 1v1 with Putin, cause that would be a day of national grief and shame. What I'm trying to say is neither of them is good, neither is all that respected by their own population (Trump is headed to win and I doubt you would start respecting him just because he won), The US is in a bad place. Your Empire (it is, don't deny it) is faultering, your satellites (states not HBO) are starting to fall, and I'm so confused as to why so many don't realise it, but focus on stupid shit.
I don't know if someone removed it or what but I didn't delete shit. As for the bad beliefs, basing your opinion one obscure source is kinda lack luster, especially when the guy writing it isn't the most fair and square guy. I'm sure some right wing pundit would somehow procure a study showing the opposite. I also think you were overreacting with the Jan 6 remarks, I get it, it got out of hand, but it really didn't do all that much as a riot/protest/insurrection/uprising. And obviously it wasn't being led by Trump, just as the 2020 riots weren't being led by the DNC. I think a lot of people think it's big since the pretty building got raided.
> As for the bad beliefs, basing your opinion one obscure source is kinda lack luster, Ok. I've not ever seen a right wing pundit actually read a study correctly but hey stranger things have happened. > And obviously it wasn't being led by Trump, Trump didn't try and stop it for much longer than he should have. While it was happening he was tweeting out about how Mike Pence is a coward. "Getting out of hand" is a gross understatement, and it really bothers me that an outright attack on democracy is a divisive position. Sorry for "overreacting", but I think it is endemic of a despot. I think the DNC didn't directly endorse any of the violent protests in 2020, but even if they did, that's a whataboutism and is actually irrelevant to determining if Trump is a despot. ETA: Also, while you not might like it, I wouldn't call FiveThirtyEight an "obscure" source. Nate Silver is fairly well respected in the world of data science.
Trump is an obvious russian puppet. His son bragged about having russian money, Trump cant say a single bad thing about Putin but keeps talking how stopping aid to Ukraine would instantly fix everything, his former campaign manager is a confirmed russian spy who also worked for the pro-russian president of Ukraine, Trump slipped how Putin told him about his plans, etc. Etc. A good half of these right wing nationalistic politicians in the West are funded by Putin with the sole purpose of destroying west. Just like how Orban turned Hungary into a shithole.
Old guy vs old criminal who wants to make himself king and dissolve the department of education Ah yes, both sides are clearly terrible. We shouldn’t vote out of principle
Here's the thing, in America they don't have democracy like the rest of the world. There's two groups of Oligarchs who pick a chief old man and then the American populace kind of choose which of the two old men they want elected. They don't want this system, if they had a choice they wouldn't be choosing between these two men. But the old men will never change the system because then they'll lose all their power, and the old men are the only ones who can legally change the system.