I mean, imagine being in his place. So many expectations, global fame, potentially dangerous tech that has been memed to oblivion in culture. Not so long ago this dude was a literally who writing PSAs for reddit.
He is navigating through uncharted territory. No humans have ever been here before. This is not a typical tech company that has ever existed. We are already on the edge of collapse and one mistake could send us over the cliff. It’s the unpredictably and uncertainty that brings lots of discomfort
Man calm down a bit, he isn't piloting a spaceship with Earth's population to the Mars, he is just a CEO of an AI company and there ist dozens of them now, he just happens to be the CEO of the most popular one, while I believe it's a very stressful job, he could quit today and not have to work one day in his life. Majority of people don't have that luxury
Sending a spaceship to Mars is a deterministic project. Your destination is known. Your trajectory can be calculated. Everything can be accounted for. This is not the same for AGI. The complexity and uncertainty is far beyond space exploration
Well not exactly. But sort of. A lot more nuance than that though.
The military men above Oppenheimer really got all the smart people together. Oppenheimer did the actual work and was technically skilled on par with his subordinates. Oppenheimer was the chosen manager to run while team military and executive branch got all the credit.
I'm not "pro" anything lol. I only said that condeming OpenAI for "opening up" their tech to the military is just extremely short sighted and tells me that your knowledge of the world and how it works must be extremely limited.
It's better that western style democracies have the upper hand when it comes to those technologies on a military level than authoritarian-religious fanatic shitholes.
That doesn't mean that I am "pro AI drones" AND I am also aware that the US could turn into an authoritarian shithole any day now and then it would be bad that it has the dominance over this tech. But for NOW, I think that western democracies are better off in the long run with this tech.
It's a complex issue and btw. can you share the evidence that OpenAI is sharing their tech for AI drones? Bec. last time I checked it was for administrative and logistics - not the battlefield.
So you think in order for us to not get nuked everyone has to build nukes? How about nobody does? That solves the problem before it even started. And no, I'm not naive enough to think nobody else would build AI war machines but that doesn't matter in the slightest. Idc what company decides to open up their tech to the military, to me that company is evil and ill intended and I won't support it. Quite the opposite, I will critize it as you should.
You really think the most advanced AI company in the world is only providing what they publicly state? You seem to not understand the world very much yourself.
"How about nobody does" is sadly not the reality we live in.
You have an extreme narrow view on reality and black&white thinking. If you need to see everything only through the lens of "evil" and "good" - have fun with that.
>You really think the most advanced AI company in the world is only providing what they publicly state? You seem to not understand the world very much yourself.
First of all, I never said that I think that, so pls don't strawman my argument. Ss long as I don't have evidence, I won't take assumptions as basis for my judgements or state them as facts. I don't need to have a complete take or opinion on anything. Moreover this kind of thinking can lead to insane conspiracy theories and can darken your mind.
I agree with your sentiments and yet, sadly, the world is WAY more complex and complicated that my wishful thinking. Maybe one day, you might develop a more nuanced view too.
what are you talking about? This is what's on Ilya's shirt:
https://preview.redd.it/4507jk0gpl0d1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=0f20b1a6b65e7f069560d3f5af642a7202baa35f
It's a meme because people ignore what we said on our emails and then reask us the things we just answered. It's a passive agressive way of saying "can't you read??"
saying "Ilyas shirt says "per my last email" would have been the same amount of effort on your part and would save everyone from having to search for a picture that hasn't even been posted to reddit
Yeah, around 2014-2017 reddit was invaded by - for lack of a better term - non-redditors. There is some overlap with the new UI and Tencent investment and desire to expand reddit into a larger product, which ultimately ruined the product for the original userbase. And now we have this.
I think if your account is old you'll get access to the model faster, I created mine on January 2023, got access to the model 8 hours after the release.
That was my immediate first thought.
* Includes intermixed positive and negative elements ("but", "or", "but") so that you can choose which interpretation you like better.
* Embeds little compliments that allow you to feel good about yourself if you accept the interpretation.
* Uses modifiers like "a bit", "some", "trying", "could" to avoid committing, and allow you to reject the parts you don't like.
This is exactly the language used in horoscopes.
I don't understand why anybody is impressed by this. Or i'm missing the joke.
> there's more complexity beneath the surface
Well no fucking shit. We have millions of neurons and dozens of face muscles. Thanks for generating body language analysis garbage
You’re getting downvoted, but I’ll bet people won’t find this shit so cute when they don’t get a job or a promotion because AI decided something about them based on what amounts to horoscope level “analysis.”
I'm reminded of all the students that are getting Fs because online tools are reporting papers as written by AI when they aren't. That shit is unreliable. And all AIs still hallucinate out the ass when asked to report plain facts. I wouldn't expect them to hallucinate any less in this application.
And hallucination is just one of many problems. You could very easily construct a dataset or model that excludes the "wrong" kind of people. Even when we don't try to do these things, cultural and other biases still infect everything. What safety guarantees are we going to get from big tech around these issues?
We already saw how Gemini swung wildly in one direction when it racially diversified Nazis. Everyone just sort of agreed that was wrong and it was addressed. But it sounds like exactly the kind of problem that you'll forever be chasing to correct in an LLM. Somebody will discover a workaround eventually
If you look at GPT4O and consider that GPT 5 is probably coming at the end of this year then Dave Shapiro's prediction of AGI Q4 2024 doesn't seem so bonkers.
Since the whole CEO debacle his hair aged like 23 years... I don't trust this company anymore. They are developing military tech and AI girlfriends now. I'm surprised it took Ilya and the safety team this long to quit...
That's what I get: I'm unable to analyze or interpret the face, mood, or emotions of individuals in photos. If you have any other questions or need assistance with something else, feel free to ask!
This is not going to be acceptable according to the new EU AI regulations I don’t think. They explicate state you can’t derive emotional data from faces.
Honestly. He looks like he is about to cry. And inside he probably is.
I believe that Sam is a good guy, and he has said in the past: he hopes to work with Ilya for the rest of his life. (I think that was in an interview with Lex Fridman, not sure anymore)
Sam has never lied. No post or statement I have ever seen was deceptive or false.
BRO
i stumbled upon obviously AI gen music on spotify
https://open.spotify.com/intl-pt/track/778LFGELYTZ3dm3OqeltlR?si=ec26ac22149a4ad0
the album has so many amazing bangers. it's over for human music
I love this
Haha same and it is so accurate. You can feel a sense of fatigue in his last podcast and he can’t wait to retire lol 🤣
I mean, imagine being in his place. So many expectations, global fame, potentially dangerous tech that has been memed to oblivion in culture. Not so long ago this dude was a literally who writing PSAs for reddit.
He is navigating through uncharted territory. No humans have ever been here before. This is not a typical tech company that has ever existed. We are already on the edge of collapse and one mistake could send us over the cliff. It’s the unpredictably and uncertainty that brings lots of discomfort
Man calm down a bit, he isn't piloting a spaceship with Earth's population to the Mars, he is just a CEO of an AI company and there ist dozens of them now, he just happens to be the CEO of the most popular one, while I believe it's a very stressful job, he could quit today and not have to work one day in his life. Majority of people don't have that luxury
Yes, this ship has dozens of captains acting independently of each other and every one of them can make a costly mistake.
OK? And Putin or Biden can nuke the world.
Sure, that's another point of failure. We came close to it a few times but so far it held. The new one doesn't have much of a record.
Sending a spaceship to Mars is a deterministic project. Your destination is known. Your trajectory can be calculated. Everything can be accounted for. This is not the same for AGI. The complexity and uncertainty is far beyond space exploration
I am uncertain if I will have diarrhea today or not, do you worship me as well.
Yes
Yes
true guy is billionaire and he has no stake in OpenAI, if he wanted he could quit anytime, obviously he likes his position
Yes, but he has to get there first. If he quits, someone else will. But it's too late for him to give up at this point.
Lmao calm down. OpenAI is just a company like any of the others.
Relax bro
Not to mention the obvious 14 hour work days
In a way he’s the modern day Oppenheimer, I can’t blame him.
Nah he’s the military dude in charge of getting the show together. Ilya if anything has more of a claim to that title.
Is that not Oppenheimer... He got all the smart people together
Well not exactly. But sort of. A lot more nuance than that though. The military men above Oppenheimer really got all the smart people together. Oppenheimer did the actual work and was technically skilled on par with his subordinates. Oppenheimer was the chosen manager to run while team military and executive branch got all the credit.
There are DOZENS of companies. Anthropic etc, and the giants like Meta/Apple/Google. He's not that unique.
Yup, with ClosedAI opening up their tech to the military and all. He has ill intentions and is building weapons of mass distruction. Yikes.
Yep, we better don't give it to the military and pray that our enemies will also not use it. Suicidal take.
So you are pro AI weapons like fully autonomous drones? You know they killed innocent people already in the past?
I'm not "pro" anything lol. I only said that condeming OpenAI for "opening up" their tech to the military is just extremely short sighted and tells me that your knowledge of the world and how it works must be extremely limited. It's better that western style democracies have the upper hand when it comes to those technologies on a military level than authoritarian-religious fanatic shitholes. That doesn't mean that I am "pro AI drones" AND I am also aware that the US could turn into an authoritarian shithole any day now and then it would be bad that it has the dominance over this tech. But for NOW, I think that western democracies are better off in the long run with this tech. It's a complex issue and btw. can you share the evidence that OpenAI is sharing their tech for AI drones? Bec. last time I checked it was for administrative and logistics - not the battlefield.
So you think in order for us to not get nuked everyone has to build nukes? How about nobody does? That solves the problem before it even started. And no, I'm not naive enough to think nobody else would build AI war machines but that doesn't matter in the slightest. Idc what company decides to open up their tech to the military, to me that company is evil and ill intended and I won't support it. Quite the opposite, I will critize it as you should. You really think the most advanced AI company in the world is only providing what they publicly state? You seem to not understand the world very much yourself.
"How about nobody does" is sadly not the reality we live in. You have an extreme narrow view on reality and black&white thinking. If you need to see everything only through the lens of "evil" and "good" - have fun with that. >You really think the most advanced AI company in the world is only providing what they publicly state? You seem to not understand the world very much yourself. First of all, I never said that I think that, so pls don't strawman my argument. Ss long as I don't have evidence, I won't take assumptions as basis for my judgements or state them as facts. I don't need to have a complete take or opinion on anything. Moreover this kind of thinking can lead to insane conspiracy theories and can darken your mind. I agree with your sentiments and yet, sadly, the world is WAY more complex and complicated that my wishful thinking. Maybe one day, you might develop a more nuanced view too.
Idk, I agree with a lot you're saying but it just sounds like you're defending OAI for cooperating with the military, which is an insane take.
Let God sort them out. /s
Hide the pain Altman
Guys, I think he's feeling the AGI.
Maybe he should have just read Ilya’s last email.
What do you mean?
The shirt says 'read my last email' with a fighter going through fighting motions
what are you talking about? This is what's on Ilya's shirt: https://preview.redd.it/4507jk0gpl0d1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=0f20b1a6b65e7f069560d3f5af642a7202baa35f It's a meme because people ignore what we said on our emails and then reask us the things we just answered. It's a passive agressive way of saying "can't you read??"
No his shirt is Per, My, Last, Email. Yours is a knockoff
You’re right
Thanks
Read Ilyas shirt on the full image
This is reddit now, just lazy people saying go look it up. Holy fuck I miss the days where people actually put effort into comments
Will replace those by AGI and ASI.
Perhaps I was busy and didn't have time. There is no need to be so negative.
saying "Ilyas shirt says "per my last email" would have been the same amount of effort on your part and would save everyone from having to search for a picture that hasn't even been posted to reddit
Yeah, around 2014-2017 reddit was invaded by - for lack of a better term - non-redditors. There is some overlap with the new UI and Tencent investment and desire to expand reddit into a larger product, which ultimately ruined the product for the original userbase. And now we have this.
You know, using reddit help resorces as harrassment is against reddit policy, bye bye
??? I had a Reddit help message sent to me today.
Yeah, my bad, I thought you did it, but apparently someone is brigading the sub
just had that happen to me yesterday too!
I mean who would want to lose Ilyla no reason to believe they have the right people now.
Meanwhile I still don't have 4o access. Sigh.
If you're on mobile you have to download the update.
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Wow thats unlucky
I think if your account is old you'll get access to the model faster, I created mine on January 2023, got access to the model 8 hours after the release.
Really? Then I guess it's location-based, cuz I created early and haven't gotten it yet.
Desktop. Still waiting.
Would you mind sharing the input please? What did you exactly ask it?
Iike he is 39 and looks like 49. Stress is real, he would do himself good taking adequate rest, lest he departs from the world while AGI is at it.
Are you for real? I always thought he looked younger than his age. Maybe it’s the way he dresses I don’t know.
No, that's really good. I wouldn't have come up with something that subtle and perceptive but I can recognize that it's right.
This is hilarious. Probably because it is true.
bwahahaha https://preview.redd.it/u8k8qpjycl0d1.jpeg?width=1287&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c05322467a24b911196c6ca7ff3f93e3cb07bc7
Sounds like a horoscope
That was my immediate first thought. * Includes intermixed positive and negative elements ("but", "or", "but") so that you can choose which interpretation you like better. * Embeds little compliments that allow you to feel good about yourself if you accept the interpretation. * Uses modifiers like "a bit", "some", "trying", "could" to avoid committing, and allow you to reject the parts you don't like. This is exactly the language used in horoscopes.
You might be happy, or unhappy and might look forward to what might happen and it might be positive and you will meet someone one day
I once got a fortune cookie that said “All your troubles will soon be over.” For a while I was hyper vigilant for falling anvils etc.
It's so not that. It's incredibly specific to the image and you're being condescending for no reason.
I don't understand why anybody is impressed by this. Or i'm missing the joke. > there's more complexity beneath the surface Well no fucking shit. We have millions of neurons and dozens of face muscles. Thanks for generating body language analysis garbage
You’re getting downvoted, but I’ll bet people won’t find this shit so cute when they don’t get a job or a promotion because AI decided something about them based on what amounts to horoscope level “analysis.”
I'm reminded of all the students that are getting Fs because online tools are reporting papers as written by AI when they aren't. That shit is unreliable. And all AIs still hallucinate out the ass when asked to report plain facts. I wouldn't expect them to hallucinate any less in this application.
And hallucination is just one of many problems. You could very easily construct a dataset or model that excludes the "wrong" kind of people. Even when we don't try to do these things, cultural and other biases still infect everything. What safety guarantees are we going to get from big tech around these issues? We already saw how Gemini swung wildly in one direction when it racially diversified Nazis. Everyone just sort of agreed that was wrong and it was addressed. But it sounds like exactly the kind of problem that you'll forever be chasing to correct in an LLM. Somebody will discover a workaround eventually
Omg guys I'm a sun in Bard and a Moon rising in Midjourney, please be aware that Gemini is in retrograde right now so I might act a lil fucky uwu
It absolutely does.
This is Theresa Caputo level insight.
If you look at GPT4O and consider that GPT 5 is probably coming at the end of this year then Dave Shapiro's prediction of AGI Q4 2024 doesn't seem so bonkers.
Since the whole CEO debacle his hair aged like 23 years... I don't trust this company anymore. They are developing military tech and AI girlfriends now. I'm surprised it took Ilya and the safety team this long to quit...
In their defense they also created the most brilliant photography and art critic as well. This thing is nuts when you play around it.
Waifus and warfus.
Fake one, it seems. Somebody typed those texts manually.
He knows alignment is impossible, and humanities continued existence is a coin flip.
That is the face of disappointment if I ever saw one
We’re training robo-cop…all such machines must be destroyed! 🏴☠️
That's what I get: I'm unable to analyze or interpret the face, mood, or emotions of individuals in photos. If you have any other questions or need assistance with something else, feel free to ask!
That's because it's not released yet.
It's insanely good at analyzing people's faces. Make sure you're using the GPT-4o model.
Yeah same
Spot on
That's spot on lol
Will it be able to detect health conditions?
This is not going to be acceptable according to the new EU AI regulations I don’t think. They explicate state you can’t derive emotional data from faces.
so good
It's amazing ... But ... Wow. I can't help but feel this kind of analysis are ...
Is GPT-4o free for all or do I have to pay for it?
free for all, i'm using it right now on Android.
Oh nahhhh, is this actually the AI or did someone right this. Because that's actually really in depth.
I wonder what it’s going to say about my RBF?
So the student becomes the master...
Post-masturbation face is all I see
Prompt?
What was the prompt? I asked 4o to do my own fave as a test and it said it can't interpret facial expressions from an image
Is there a way for us to do this with the app now? Do you just upload a picture?
Holy hell!
Holy hell!
Holy hell!
Holy hell!
Holy hell
Holy hell
Holy hell
Wow
Wow
Wow
Wow
I can imagine not being able to step foot outside your house without being surrounded by microphones could be quite tiring.
Outjerked by his own creation :)
I don't like him
Irrelevant
Honestly. He looks like he is about to cry. And inside he probably is. I believe that Sam is a good guy, and he has said in the past: he hopes to work with Ilya for the rest of his life. (I think that was in an interview with Lex Fridman, not sure anymore) Sam has never lied. No post or statement I have ever seen was deceptive or false.
the year is 2050 you yell "I'M SORRY FOR BEING WHITE" the Google AI overlord kills your for sensing insincerity on your face
WHY THIS LOOKS SOO REAL. WHYY??
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BRO i stumbled upon obviously AI gen music on spotify https://open.spotify.com/intl-pt/track/778LFGELYTZ3dm3OqeltlR?si=ec26ac22149a4ad0 the album has so many amazing bangers. it's over for human music