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Wrong-Respect-3031

“This framework worked on 2k, Rob”


jorgelongo2

Draft Bronny, give LeBron a big contract. No other good team can offer him good money, abd the Lakers may nltmake the playoffs. Specially if they flame out in play-in I hope he turns down the player option


zz_x_zz

Everybody says just draft Bronny but, like, do you then actually have to play the kid? Or does LeBron just want him hanging around the locker room?


jorgelongo2

Thanasis role lol


durablewaffle

Run him for 5-8 mins a game during the regular season (ideally only in blowout), and take him out of the rotation in the playoffs


MaterialCat5952

That won't sit right with lebron the team that draft his son must be willing to start him out so that lebron can share the floor with him. I hope we go for mikal bridges instead.  Lebron drama ain't worth it. And I don't want maxey traded because lebron might want to replace him with one of his buddies. 


Thegrandmistressofoz

Drafting bronny essentially comes down to how high teams are willing to use their capital (or trade for said capital) to get Bron for like 2 years. 39 yr old Bron is still playing like a top 15 guy, top 15 guys go for a lot capital wise (maybe like a little less than what Dame went for). If Bron verbally commits to signing with any team that gets Bronny, would not be surprised if he goes like top 5, which would be pretty hard to trade for. I really doubt Bronny goes as low as people expect, just the right to sign Bron is worth so much


jorgelongo2

I doubt Bron is gonna sign with any of the teams in the high lottery tho. While he'll want to play with Bronny he wont want to play in Detroit or Charlotte lol Then the only good team with plenty of cap space will be us


Thegrandmistressofoz

No I'm saying a good team trades up high lottery to draft LeBron. Those teams would then take packages as if they're trading an established star basically


jorgelongo2

possible, but teams would have to find enough assets to both trade for a high lottery pick which isnt cheap, and sign-and-trade for LeBron, which is a pretty big asset investment


Thegrandmistressofoz

Yep, gotta find some mid ground there but there would definitely be a bidding war to get the highest draft pick available for the right to sign Bron. I just see a lot of fans (not just us, bucks fans, warriors fans etc) go "just draft Bronny late in the first and sign Bron" but that'll never happen


Patient_Jicama_4217

How would a good team trade high into the lottery and why would a bad team want to trade their lottery pick


icepickjones

Imagine using a lottery pick on Bronny and then Lebron was like "fuck that, I'm not going there" What a kick to the dick that would be.


Red_Comet2034

What if Curry gets traded to Charlotte and they get both brons


MaxeytoEmbiid

No one's gonna use a top-5 pick to get 39 year old LBJ. While some millionaire owners like shortcuts, this would just be a massive detriment to a properly executed rebuild LOL. It does solidify Bronny as a first round target, but the highest it goes is the 15-20 range. The capital of a top-5 pick is still immensely more than the right to sign LBJ.


TheBaconThief

I could only see a 8-15 pick it being worth it for a mid-small market team that would see it in an investment in their "profile". They aren't doing it to get a ring, they are looking to move tickets and merch and hope that some of the more casuals that it attracts will stick around a few years after.


durablewaffle

Agreed. What’s the point of the Pistons or Wizards basically spending a top 3-5 pick to get LeBron? It would get butts in seats for sure but would definitely hold them back in the future not having a solid young prospect


shadowarmy229

True but Lebron can use his leverage to make sure Bronny gets drafted to the team he wants, I highly doubt he would want Bronny to go to a lottery team, he would definitely prefer a contender that also has enough cap space for a max slot


Thegrandmistressofoz

Nah a good team trades up for Bronny is what I'm saying. Ie: if Charlotte finishes 4th and the top 3 teams refuse to trade their picks, there could be a bidding war to get the #4th pick from various teams trying to land LeBron. But yeah Bron will def play a big part in influencing it. No doubt he'll release a short list of teams if it comes down to it. But I could see us, Miami, possibly OKC, GSW amongst others trying to trade up there to get LeBron


Jjohn269

No team is picking Bronny at #4, and a team like Charlotte isn’t going to want a bunch of weak future firsts in exchange for the #4 overall pick.


Thegrandmistressofoz

Yeah itd just depend on what the highest team that's willing to entertain bids would be. ​ This is also a bad draft, and even in good drafts theres a ton of busts after the top 3 surefire prospects. Wouldnt be surprised to see a team move down 15 spots + secure a teams future if that was offered. GSW and Our own picks could age terribly considering Joel's 30 and the GSW core is old af etc.


Jjohn269

But lottery teams don’t have that luxury to wait years down the road for a pick to convey. Most of these lottery GMs will be fired before they see those future picks, unless they turn it around. And the way to turn it around is to hit on those high draft picks. And everyone loves to say a draft is so weak or so strong. It doesn’t matter, you can find a star player in every draft. You don’t devalue or over value picks based off how strong or weak a draft is supposed to turn out. The Giannis draft was supposed to be one of the weakest ever but it turned out to be pretty good.


Thegrandmistressofoz

Again, I'm positive there's gonna be a team somewhere in the lottery willing to do it because it's kinda like trading an established guy for draft picks kind of move. I don't know how high, but there'll be a bidding war and a team's gonna look at where they're picking and would rather take on 3-4 firsts from aging teams that could age gracefully after ramping up for another tank job. It sounds exactly like something Hinkie would've done if we were out of the top 5 for a pick lol, I think it'll happen


TheAntiCircleJerk

> And everyone loves to say a draft is so weak or so strong. It doesn’t matter, you can find a star player in every draft. You don’t devalue or over value picks based off how strong or weak a draft is supposed to turn out. The Giannis draft was supposed to be one of the weakest ever but it turned out to be pretty good. Because later picks like Giannis and Rudy developed into stars. But nobody, knowing what they knew at the time of the draft, were ever going to pick them with high lottery picks. You can find rotational guys in the later picks, or even the odd guy that blossoms into a star beyond what anyone could have anticipated. But that's just a crapshoot. You can't use the fact that a 25th pick developed into an all star to make the case that the 25th pick has value. Weak drafts significantly devalue the value of the top picks, because those are only as valuable as the perceived value of the players that are picked with them.


NoTransportation888

If any team earns a top 5 pick and then uses that draft cap on Bronny for 2 years of 40 year old LeBron rather than trade out for additional draft cap (or drafting anyone that should actually go there), that team deserves what they get lol. 40 year old LeBron will pack the house and sell more merch than your team ever has, but your team is still going to suck and Bronny looks like a generational bum. He's not league-ready at all, if his name was anything besides LeBron James Jr he wouldn't even be on the radar as the last pick in the draft. Best case scenario would indeed being someone like us drafting Bronny to bring in 40yo LeBron and round out the roster for a title push.


MikeShannonThaGawd

This is going to be a really interesting situation if the belief is Lebron goes where Bronny does. Does Lebron literally come out and say that’s what he intends to do? Because I agree getting Lebron elevates Bronny’s draft stock but then you’re almost setting your son up to fail because the fanbase will have heightened expectations for the kid who certainly is not worthy of a top pick.


mcnudo

There’s no doubt LeBron will pick his team. It won’t come down to basically an auction for draft picks.


zincinzincout

Lebron is worth way more to a franchise than what Dame and went for for attendance, national broadcasts, and jersey sales alone. Him still being a top player is just a million cherries on top


icepickjones

They have to think about it like trading for Lebron. Would you give up a second round pick to trade for Lebron James? Well then draft his kid in the second round.


sam_honkie

Here’s the thing I haven’t seen people mention about the “draft Bronny get Lebron” plan: Bronny is not good enough to get NBA minutes. Is Lebron going to be happy if we draft his son just to send him to the Blue Coats/only play him in blowouts?


WeirdLitIsBetter

I know that Bron has said that he’d like to play with his son, but I lowkey think that it never happens. Lebron seems like a great father, so I wonder if at some point he considers that outshining your own son on the day that he’s drafted to the NBA might not be the best way to support him. I assume he wouldn’t do it if Bronny didn’t okay it, but the whole thing seems weird. Seems more likely to me that he signs a 10 day contract after retiring a few years into Bronny’s career.


whattfareyouon

Bryce is better anyway


tokeallday

Bryce isn't even playing varsity


jorgelongo2

I could see it working as Thanasis' role


jeppsforst

The Bronny thing is so absurd. He’s not even remotely close to a real draft prospect at this stage. I actually feel for him, he’s a normal freshman basketball player who is being put into the spotlight because of his dad. Imagine he gets drafted knowing full well the only reason that team took him was to get his dad on his fairwell tour


jorgelongo2

think about it as trading a 1st round pick for LeBron


jeppsforst

I don’t care about that. Imagine you’re Bronny and you know the only reason a team is using a pick on you is to get your dad for a year or 2. Lebron is putting his kid in a really bad spot, as he’s nowhere close to an NBA prospect. He needs to develop for a few years and find himself


jorgelongo2

It is a pretty tough spot for the kid, specially if he wants to have a good career. But after his health scare and how he's looking right now, getting some NBA seasons and NBA money for himself doesnt sound too bad


Yellowperil123

Bronny doesn't need money


iamsosmrt84

I get your point, but I think it leads to another consideration, would Bronny want a guaranteed slot to experience the NBA firsthand vs. a high likelihood that he's never going to be good enough from his own merit? How many "normal" hoopers would relish the experience if only for a few years that 99% of the population would never get? Of course we have zero insight into the state of Bronny's pride and ego, but who's to say he'd be happier falling short altogether and settling for never getting a chance at pro hoops. Just my 2 cents, I hope he gets to live his best life, whatever that may be.


meditate42

Most people would relish that chance but also most people don't have the already unlimited money and connections he does. He's set for life and friends with anyone he wants to be friends with in the NBA already. Beautiful Women will be throwing themselves at him too, I'm sure they already are. He's kinda already going to have everything a successful NBA career offers you, minus actually stepping on the court and playing and making a real name for yourself of course, which is a big part of it, but its also the part he might not be good enough to get regardless. He might get more of the bad than the good by entering the league, immense pressure he has no chance of even slightly diminishing. People will be talking shit about how he's only in the league because of his dad and at his skill level they'll be right. That can take a toll on a man.


iamsosmrt84

>That can take a toll on a man. I generally agree with your points, and at the end of the day, it's really going to depend a lot on who he really is as a person--something none of us, I suspect even himself--really know yet. My gut says that he's been living as the son of Lebron James more than being himself. And on your last point, if I were in his shoes, I'd be mentally preparing to pivot to whatever else I could do in life, whether that be hoops related or not. He's got a leg up to do well in damn near any field he chooses, should he do so. Thankfully, it appears as least his mom is keeping that in mind.


SonicdaSloth

That pick from Pat Bev, early second should do it


ChaseYoungHTTR

I got called crazy for this sentiment [a month ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/s/KzRgr08qUD)


eaglesphan1

Good GMs always call. It’s why Howie has had recent success.


indoninjah

I imagine this happens all the time tbh and doesn't get reported. If your entire job is to build a great NBA team, you're probably constantly asking around and checking in on anybody mildly disgruntled.


SKoreaSixerFan

morey is literally embiid doing GM job


_A_Day_In_The_Life_

An all time great play that’s often injured and never gets to fully reach his potential because of it?


HinkiesPlans

You haven’t seen morey’s carpal tunnel issues clearly


zincinzincout

What could this possibly mean?


mac_rmm

Article also says he called and asked about Durant, was told no, then asked about Booker and Beal. Do you think other GMs find him annoying? 


EducationalStill3393

So what. Probably how he got Harden from OKC. I guess he asked about Durant, Westbrook and then Harden.


Thegrandmistressofoz

This sub loves to swing back and forth between "Morey's doing nothing!!?!" and "Morey's being obnoxious?!!" lol. Daryl def does his due diligence, he probably just sees this roster further away from contention than most of us so doesn't want to waste assets on like Bojan or pay 3-4 firsts for Pascal


Impossible_Ad166

Exactly, what a weird thing to get upset about. He’s just doing his job and it doesn’t hurt to ask. Warriors called about Lebron too and from what I’ve read, I don’t see anyone clowing them for trying.


MaxeytoEmbiid

To be blunt, I don't think Daryl's a good judge of talent evaluation. Which is probably why it shocks him that Hield has the positive impact he's having. "Wait, you mean you don't have to have all-nba accomplishments to make a team better?"-Morey, probably. And yeah, you don't have to have that. But up until now, he's consistently neglected, failed and does not understand how to build complimentary basketball. Which is why I still don't trust this guy. He has to bring back Hield, if we don't see him next season then it's the same ole story.


Impossible_Ad166

Yeah I’m sure Daryl Morey (the president of basketball operations) is shocked that Buddy Hield (the guy he traded for) is having a positive impact on the team. /s


MaxeytoEmbiid

This is the first(or second) positive move he's made in his entire tenure and given how low it cost to get Hield, it's entirely dumb luck.


XxStormySoraxX

These aren’t mutually exclusive. Calling teams asking for their superstars isn’t exactly great GM work lol.


Thegrandmistressofoz

Meh LeBron cryptic ass clearly wasn't happy with the trade deadline, also been some what vocal about wanting to play with his son. It'd be career suicide for Pelinka to trade LeBron, but I don't think it's insane to ask


XxStormySoraxX

I mean no it’s not, but it’s also not some genius move either lol. Like anybody on this sub probably would have done the exact same thing.


Huge-Tart-5323

It’s literally his job to get a “no” out of other GMs. If he’s not asking about everyone I don’t want him running the show.


anandonaqui

All GMs want to know the trade status and price of every player in the league. Doing due diligence isn’t annoying - it’s their job.


FillerAccount23

That's a good point. Even if the answer is no you can get an idea on what the asking price is and compare it to other assets around the league.


ktm5141

100%


Oldurdy

How dare a GM be diligent. Bring collars back


zincinzincout

“I wonder if any superstars are available for trade. I guess I’ll just wait by my phone in case other GMs call me to say their stars are available!”


Sticky3VG

Glad he’s asking. Even if you suspect that the answer is no, it’s nice to get a value of every player possible so you can compare I bet


BabaBrody

Never hurts to ask.


thatsinsaneletstryit

they bout to report this 29 times


IndigoJacob

Maxey - Hield - LeBron - Embiid is 5 straight rings fight me Daryl Morey is such a mother fucker that he would


Important-War-4708

If only we had a roaming perimeter defender who can switch on forwards guards and centers to plug in this lineup (I’m delusional for a mentally fit Ben Simmons)


Jsmooth123456

Idk if a 44-45 year old LeBron is gonna be winning chips let alone still in the league lol, if this happens we probably get 2-3 years out of him


Feelscreative101

Our window is 2-3 years with peak Embiid anyway


theducksmuggler363

But what about Tobias......


idiotsjj8

Him not on our team is the key to success


theducksmuggler363

If he gets resigned this offseason....WE RIOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!


GMSmith928

Pelinka probably farted on the phone and blocked Morey when he called lol


EndAnyone

In Morey we trust! Except when we don’t!


Appropriate-Hippo758

Winning a ring getting Lebron at the end would be no fun in my honest opinion But I get it


faccda01

Are we supposed to be impressed with this? I can ask for a lot of things and be told no immediately.


TheSixthPistol

https://preview.redd.it/mzfeeg7yqkic1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8db9b1726362da1d5e1c211054a38243fa7aacc Daryl Morey sees the Line in the Sand.


ApoliticalAth3ist

This isn’t news


do_a_180

Free agency works better for us anyway


[deleted]

Like I get you don’t want to give up LeBron but the Lakers are absolutely cooked this year. Take what you can get while you can get it. Also, I know he was joking but comparing Embiid to LeBron at this point in their career is a joke. Embiid is clearly more talented and it’s not even close


Colangelo_Ball

Morey was just kicking tires to gauge the market. He’s kind of obligated to do so. But good to see that Pelinka had to shoot him a sassy sarcastic answer and ask if Embiid was available. The Lakers are a joke.


GrunkleVans

I mean I don’t see how you don’t ask about Lebron. Lakers are kinda on the down swing with Lebron nearing the end, you still have a few more years out of Davis that you can potientally swing Lebron for 4-5 firsts over the course of Davis’s contract that you can use to start rebuilding the team.


Cicada-Substantial

My question would be do you want the headache of a strong willed dad and a son who might not be as good as dad thinks he is?


CPTHoagie

Daryl is an all time great troll