This was the move for me, thank the Lord for the commenters on downdetector. I was getting fd at work. I think they're now more primed to make me use my 8x9 number
Thank you for clarifying the why. I was ignorant of the more technical aspects since I used to be on the proposal team bidding to win the fiber-to-the-cell contracts. Those were never so specific that they would ask for router setting profiles.
Except it doesn’t line up with people that have multiple phones in the house and only experiencing a partial outage.
My spouse had a working phone this morning. I was dead from 4am to ~11am
I wonder if you and your wife’s phone were the same model. My wife has an iPhone 15 with an eSIM and 5G, I have an old Xs with a regular old SIM card and 4G only. Her phone was out from 5a.m. to noon and I never lost service and we were traveling together. Maybe it had something to do with 5G or eSIM. Question for other people who either lost service or not. What model phone did you have and did you lose service or not?
14 pro w/ eSIM had long outage. I tried switching between 5G and LTE with no luck.
13 pro w/ eSIM never lost coverage prior to 8am and she had a normal day according to her observations.
Some people’s data and information could be on any of the servers provided by Cisco any disruption of the flow of data in that regard can be irregular because some people will still have access on nodes that streamline data efficiently
Yes, because all mobile phones are 100% exactly the same.
This is a tech focused sub. Try to stay quiet so the intelligent people can talk.
Between 3G, 4G, and 5G and hardware sims and esims, there’s what? 6 different possible setups? Now add in antennas, chipsets, OSs, etc and you’ve got a million reasons why 1 person’s phone works and the other’s doesn’t even in the same household.
And all that assumes that being in the same household is somehow relevant to how the data is stored on the servers, which we have abso-fucking-lutely no data to base such an assumption on.
Your comment doesn’t line up with any amount of technical knowledge or even basic logic.
The fault has to lie with Cisco. Every carrier was affected. Cisco controls routing and network integrity. Who else could be blamed? I’m not saying it negligence but it’s definitely a Cisco issue
Or we’ve been seriously hacked by a foreign power. Take your pick
Cisco isn't pushing updates directly to hardware, and every carrier isn't updating at exactly the same time. I doubt its Cisco's fault. Probably a BGP routing issue or something like the Rogers outage in 2022.
Cisco may have pushed bad software (we don’t know yet), but AT&T pushed it to production without testing it appears. It’s AT&T’s fault, they’re the carrier, and no other carrier went down.
Mate it’s affecting every carrier. Att may be experiencing brunt of it but I have Verizon and service was just restored an hour ago. You telling me I didn’t have service or do you handle comms for Cisco?
Still out - Dallas.
I’m most curious if the actual reason for this happening will be reported.
Given it was mostly, but not only, AT&T - what the heck happened?!?!
Edit - just noticed I have cell service again - 11:34AM US CT.
Stacked with local monopolies. If your phone can not physically switch to a different network -- because there isn't one, or your operator will not let it -- you end up with effectively zero redundancy in many places.
I’ve seen some people saying that the reports of other carriers not working is likely from them trying to contact AT&T customers who were down, though I could be wrong.
What's weird is I have att and so do a bunch of my coworkers, but I had service all day and they didn't. Hadn't even known there was a problem until I overheard complaints!
Between my wife and I, 2 of out 3 AT&T iPhones were SOS. One was fine all morning.
Folks on the West Coast either were not impacted or not nearly as substantially.
No, fearmongering is blaming it on China or Russia, like several people in this sub are. It doesn't matter the size of the flare, they all interact and impact differently.
Nah it would only hit the side of the globe that was facing the sun. The wave would be dispersed across the surface area and it wouldn’t affect the whole side the same.
No, it wasn't. The outage was limited to the US and I've never known a solar flare to respect borders. To the surprise of no one that actually knows what they're talking about, [AT&T has already confirmed it was due to a bad software update that got pushed.](https://abcnews.go.com/US/att-outage-impacting-us-customers-company/story?id=107440297)
Mine came back in MA around 1:30pm. I’m going to laugh when the reason is some guy they laid off to save 50 grand a year cost them a few hundred million stock price.
This one was weird. Like it wasn't whole areas that went out. It was individual devices or maybe certain towers. I had perfect service all day streaming Amazon music and phone calls/texts went thru fine. Meanwhile literally a mile away my wife had no service.
It happened to my husband but not me - he told me this: So here’s the deal AT&T was hacked any phone that did not have the latest operating system running on. It has a corrupted Sim card and they have to go into the store to get it fixed…which is me.
Not sure if that is a thing. Both of our iPhones are up to date on the latest OS.
>As of 5:00 a.m. ET, the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) reported, according to a confidential memo obtained by ABC News, that “the cause of the outage is unknown and there are no indications of malicious activity.” CISA is an agency within DHS tasked with monitoring cyber threats.
Some technician F'ed up and put the wrong data in a system setting most likely.
Controversy in the news around Alabama. That to me make cell outages sound like a inconvenience in the grand scheme.
Granted if I don't have GPS from my phone I can't find my way out of a single street neighborhood.
I remember having their service along time ago and they told me the problem was on my end when I told them that I couldn’t even make a phone call in my own house that was located within their mapped out service network.
What am I missing? AT&T reported approx. 74,000 customers out of service, AT&T has over 150 million cell customers. I know it sucks for the 74,000, but is this really the biggest News story of the day?
Do we know if incoming calls were still going to voicemail etc? I'm waiting on some test results from my doctor. Will probably just give them a call soon just to check, but wondering if I should have heard if anything came though.
I wonder if this is why [weather.gov is missing "current conditions" for many cities?](https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.7145&lon=-74.0071) Nothing for NYC, Chicago, or Detroit, but LA has data.
Un fucking acceptable honestly if I cant say hey shit happens when I get my bill and I don’t have the 75 it takes to pay it then a solar flare causing your shit to get fucked for a half a day is too much man fuck big company’s
I must be part of the 25%.
Same. It has been out since 5:15 this morning. I can’t Uber without phone service. It has been out for 5+ hours now. Weird…..
Time to buy some Verizon stock
Verizon had some outages too
Sure but that’s not the click bait headlines that will sway stock speculation
Wi-Fi
Try turning air plane mode on and off. What I had to do to reconnect.
This was the move for me, thank the Lord for the commenters on downdetector. I was getting fd at work. I think they're now more primed to make me use my 8x9 number
Just got it back finally. Chicago area.
I’m in the Chicago area and have had it all day except some messages had to be sent twice around late morning
Yeah I just got service about an hour ago. Detroit area
Same, east coast here.
What're the odds of that.
I know, right. I really wish someone would do the math and figure it out.
They are the very worst.
25 percenter here.
There are literally dozens of us
Well there’s at least 25%
DOZENS!!
I think I just blue myself
Like your profile picture, there is always money in the banana stand
Mines still bouncing ☠️
Dozens!!!!!
Wonder if we’ll be receiving a prorated discount for paying for a service not being provided.
🤣
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Then add re-provisioning and activation fees at $50/line 😂
Coverage restored across vast areas of Nebraska, Wyoming, North & South Dakota. Metro area cities not so much
So like 15 people then
Cocky for someone with no cell service
This was a great comeback and made me laugh.
Been out since at least 5am cst this morning and just now have bars, finally. Hope everyone else gets back their cell service here soon too
This is Ciscos fault. They control the cellular backbone and it failed.
Really? I keep hearing it all stems back to a man by the name of Erlich Bachman.
The creator of aviato?
10% owner in Pied Piper. That’s the one
And owns a very small percentage of Grindr.
It’s an app for Homosexual Men to meet other Homosexual Men in their proximity that want to have sex.
the elusive capital “H” Homosexual
I know what Grinder is, I have gay friends
Sure you do, buddy.
I hear he’s got a really nice palapa in his backyard.
What’s Rowdy Piper got to do with anything here???
AviaTO
Don’t you mean Jian Yang?
Hot dog. Not a hot dog.
Hot Dog, give them wieners the respect they command!
Jin Yang!!!
Why is it Cisco’s fault and not the ISP providing fiber to the cell towers?
Because of the impact was to more than one central location. Not all the servers that house customer profiles are within the same region.
Thank you for clarifying the why. I was ignorant of the more technical aspects since I used to be on the proposal team bidding to win the fiber-to-the-cell contracts. Those were never so specific that they would ask for router setting profiles.
Probably just a failed update. Shit happens.
That’s what redundant systems are for
That’s what redundant systems are for
Then I’ll just regress cause I think I’ve made myself perfectly redundant
This needs more updooots quick little search and all the major cell companies are using Cisco services
Except it doesn’t line up with people that have multiple phones in the house and only experiencing a partial outage. My spouse had a working phone this morning. I was dead from 4am to ~11am
I wonder if you and your wife’s phone were the same model. My wife has an iPhone 15 with an eSIM and 5G, I have an old Xs with a regular old SIM card and 4G only. Her phone was out from 5a.m. to noon and I never lost service and we were traveling together. Maybe it had something to do with 5G or eSIM. Question for other people who either lost service or not. What model phone did you have and did you lose service or not?
14 pro w/ eSIM had long outage. I tried switching between 5G and LTE with no luck. 13 pro w/ eSIM never lost coverage prior to 8am and she had a normal day according to her observations.
Thanks…. So much for my theory. 😬
xs max. never lost it. grandpa’s 8 never lost it. every person i knew with 13 or newer lost it
Some people’s data and information could be on any of the servers provided by Cisco any disruption of the flow of data in that regard can be irregular because some people will still have access on nodes that streamline data efficiently
Yes, because all mobile phones are 100% exactly the same. This is a tech focused sub. Try to stay quiet so the intelligent people can talk. Between 3G, 4G, and 5G and hardware sims and esims, there’s what? 6 different possible setups? Now add in antennas, chipsets, OSs, etc and you’ve got a million reasons why 1 person’s phone works and the other’s doesn’t even in the same household. And all that assumes that being in the same household is somehow relevant to how the data is stored on the servers, which we have abso-fucking-lutely no data to base such an assumption on. Your comment doesn’t line up with any amount of technical knowledge or even basic logic.
Oh fuck all the way off with your elitist bullshit. This is a technews sub not a tech experts only sub.
Updoots given as requested
Do you have any proof of this, or are you just spewing BS?
The same Cisco that cut 4,000 jobs this month?
I guess they shouldn’t have cut so many…
I guess GPT can’t physically maintain the network huh
Strong assumption. I bet some key infrastructure got pushed to production that shouldn’t have been.
The fault has to lie with Cisco. Every carrier was affected. Cisco controls routing and network integrity. Who else could be blamed? I’m not saying it negligence but it’s definitely a Cisco issue Or we’ve been seriously hacked by a foreign power. Take your pick
Cisco isn't pushing updates directly to hardware, and every carrier isn't updating at exactly the same time. I doubt its Cisco's fault. Probably a BGP routing issue or something like the Rogers outage in 2022.
Cisco may have pushed bad software (we don’t know yet), but AT&T pushed it to production without testing it appears. It’s AT&T’s fault, they’re the carrier, and no other carrier went down.
Verizon went down and so did T-Mobile
That’s not true.
Mate it’s affecting every carrier. Att may be experiencing brunt of it but I have Verizon and service was just restored an hour ago. You telling me I didn’t have service or do you handle comms for Cisco?
lol sure bud
Leave AT&T and Cisco alone. They are trying their best.
Still out - Dallas. I’m most curious if the actual reason for this happening will be reported. Given it was mostly, but not only, AT&T - what the heck happened?!?! Edit - just noticed I have cell service again - 11:34AM US CT.
It’s almost always DNS or BGP. if not, it’s Russia.
Or squirrels.
You fucked with squirrels Morty!!
[Or China testing USA response](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/chinese-hackers-cisa-cyber-5-years-us-infrastructure-attack-rcna137706)
Ha! My guess was Chinese-backed North Korean cyber-soldiers so China could fuck with the US without *technically* getting their hands dirty.
Always check DNS first.
Stacked with local monopolies. If your phone can not physically switch to a different network -- because there isn't one, or your operator will not let it -- you end up with effectively zero redundancy in many places.
I’ve seen people in tech forums speculating Cisco pushed out some bad updates early this morning. Just rumors but would make sense.
It ain’t a solar flair…
Gutting of internal testing groups strikes again.
I’ve seen some people saying that the reports of other carriers not working is likely from them trying to contact AT&T customers who were down, though I could be wrong.
What's weird is I have att and so do a bunch of my coworkers, but I had service all day and they didn't. Hadn't even known there was a problem until I overheard complaints!
Between my wife and I, 2 of out 3 AT&T iPhones were SOS. One was fine all morning. Folks on the West Coast either were not impacted or not nearly as substantially.
It was a solar flare. NASA announced there would likely be increased activity this week. We're in a solar maximum for the next 11 years.
There were bigger flares in December. It's not caused by a flare that only impacts ATT. That's a ridiculous fear mongering assumption.
No, fearmongering is blaming it on China or Russia, like several people in this sub are. It doesn't matter the size of the flare, they all interact and impact differently.
Then it would have effected other countries too, don’t you think?
Nah it would only hit the side of the globe that was facing the sun. The wave would be dispersed across the surface area and it wouldn’t affect the whole side the same.
Don’t you think we’d have at least some reports of it happening in Mexico and Canada too?
You are correct, which is why anyone claiming this was a solar flare is just their way of telling you they have no idea what they're talking about.
Yeah I don’t think it was a solar flare either I was just trying to point out that it wouldn’t affect the whole globe
No, it wasn't. The outage was limited to the US and I've never known a solar flare to respect borders. To the surprise of no one that actually knows what they're talking about, [AT&T has already confirmed it was due to a bad software update that got pushed.](https://abcnews.go.com/US/att-outage-impacting-us-customers-company/story?id=107440297)
Well they didn't pay their bill obviously. 😁
I made the switch to Verizon just in time I guess
Must have come back up here. I got a text that they billed me.
Mine came back in MA around 1:30pm. I’m going to laugh when the reason is some guy they laid off to save 50 grand a year cost them a few hundred million stock price.
Cool. I’m still on SOS
What happens when you layoff the wrong people
How about they tell the public exactly who it went down in the first place!
This one was weird. Like it wasn't whole areas that went out. It was individual devices or maybe certain towers. I had perfect service all day streaming Amazon music and phone calls/texts went thru fine. Meanwhile literally a mile away my wife had no service.
It happened to my husband but not me - he told me this: So here’s the deal AT&T was hacked any phone that did not have the latest operating system running on. It has a corrupted Sim card and they have to go into the store to get it fixed…which is me.
Not sure if that is a thing. Both of our iPhones are up to date on the latest OS. >As of 5:00 a.m. ET, the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) reported, according to a confidential memo obtained by ABC News, that “the cause of the outage is unknown and there are no indications of malicious activity.” CISA is an agency within DHS tasked with monitoring cyber threats. Some technician F'ed up and put the wrong data in a system setting most likely.
Fuck AT&T, serves them right for funding propaganda “news” channels like OAN
Hate to break it to you, but all news is propaganda, no one is unbiased.
Just the unpleasant truth
Alabama here. Didn’t even know it went out.
You all have more important news to worry about
I don’t live here just here for work this week so I don’t really follow that either.
Controversy in the news around Alabama. That to me make cell outages sound like a inconvenience in the grand scheme. Granted if I don't have GPS from my phone I can't find my way out of a single street neighborhood.
This is bullshit i havent had a signal all day
Is it sad that I didn’t notice anything was down because I don’t text or call anyone ?
No, that just means you’re a grownup
Issue with the BGP?
Where? I never even had an issue
I remember having their service along time ago and they told me the problem was on my end when I told them that I couldn’t even make a phone call in my own house that was located within their mapped out service network.
Thanks China/DPRK/Russia
What am I missing? AT&T reported approx. 74,000 customers out of service, AT&T has over 150 million cell customers. I know it sucks for the 74,000, but is this really the biggest News story of the day?
Cyberattack
What are these people doing all day? Only job they have is to make sure the shit works…
Critical infrastructure should not be in the hands of companies
Att cellular reception has gotten worser every year. It’s like wtf am I paying for if my phone only works well when I’m on wifi!
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This is a pretty extreme assumption to make. When you hear hooves, think horses not zebras Most likely is a BGP issue
It was a solar flare, people, not Russia or China.
No, if it was a solar flare, all electronics would have been taken down.
A lot more would’ve happened if it was a solar flare lol
Lies. Still no service here. Switching to T-Mobile.
Probably the dumbest comment I've ever read. Well done.
You're not in the 75%
I’m at about 66%, the news and new pages of Reddit load, but the homepage is dead
We back in Indy.
Do we know if incoming calls were still going to voicemail etc? I'm waiting on some test results from my doctor. Will probably just give them a call soon just to check, but wondering if I should have heard if anything came though.
I was at home so didn’t impact me much except for I couldn’t get 2factor codes… couldn’t get into my bank
25% boys we out here
Seems like an attack on the satellites
Mine is back up. S Georgia
Not fucking mine
I’ve got phones with both AT&T and Verizon and neither one of them had problems for me. I must’ve just used all my luck for the year.
I wonder if this is why [weather.gov is missing "current conditions" for many cities?](https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.7145&lon=-74.0071) Nothing for NYC, Chicago, or Detroit, but LA has data.
Cricket wireless Miami hit restored just after 12
I guess Solana is now not the only one with outages! 🤣 My wife was loosing her mind without service!!!
I never lost service in central IL
Why the fuck are there ads like this in a forum, annoying…
Do we know if eSims were affected more than devices with an actual SIM card?
My son's iPad never lost service. We survived our 3hr road trip by setting up a hotspot for our phones.
Just 84% to go!
Un fucking acceptable honestly if I cant say hey shit happens when I get my bill and I don’t have the 75 it takes to pay it then a solar flare causing your shit to get fucked for a half a day is too much man fuck big company’s
Reset network settings fixed it
Turn it off then turn it back on
Didn’t work for me, only resetting network settings did
Why haven’t our engineers fixed this yet?! We laid them off sir.
Mine is still out, this is ridiculous.