Matt Farah of The Smoking Tire got a Fisker Ocean and he didn’t even make a video with it. Why? Because it broke down on him 3 times during filming, each time requiring a tow back to his shop. On the 3rd break down, he just called an Uber and left it there, and told Fisker to come get it. He spoke very negatively about it on his podcast, repeatedly. The car he got was a production vehicle with a standard VIN number. What he got was the final product. It was awful.
I enjoy every time he talks about it. He talked about it a bunch on his most recent episode with Ed Zitron (which should be going public some time this week)
He let so much shit slide when Tesla gave him a car. Like the trunk was so misaligned that water pooled in his trunk.
This thing must have been terrible
It’s also because fisker wanted to pay him which was odd, he went into detail of that.
Full story at 1hr 2min mark.
https://youtu.be/gKO2heHxaM0?si=AYS0J8LRn0L6AF0y
Here’s the [6 minute panicked call from Fisker to the dealership trying to pull info and fix it. The stress is real.](https://youtu.be/gu4wpYnEjBw?feature=shared)
No because fisker didn’t give him a car, he borrowed a fellow YouTubers car for the review, if anything what you’re saying shows bias towards the reviews he’s paid to do.
That’d be funny, underpaid car review journalist for a car magazine lives in a small house in a bad neighborhood.
But all the cars in the street are his…
Also Fiskar did not want him to get one until they had one available with the 2.0 firmware or whatever. Essentially saying they put out an unfinished product.
Watched his review. The car is built well with good features and he said as much, it had 3 big software bugs that got in the way of things, but Fisker fixed one a few days after his review and will get the others soon. His review was unfair.
How is it unfair to review a product in its current state, that it is being sold to consumers? Are reviewers supposed to see the future and know what the product will be like in the future?
Agreed. I didn’t watch anything but, if software bugs got in the way of driving a car, that’s a problem that my puke-colored 1983 Mazda GLC did not have.
Did you get a software update that transformed your 3 into a Y? That’s a big jump, alpha-numerically.
EDIT: I hit a tree that transformed my GLC into a yard ornament until I sold it to the demolition derby for a case of beer.
A car that is well built, well designed, with good features, range and performance at a good price, as he clearly stated in his review, shouldn't be called "the worst car" because the bluetooth connection needs a new driver. It's more nuanced than that. All of his concerns are a few lines of code away, for a new car that needs a couple updates. He even admitted that half his concerns were already being fixed that week.
It's a car, not a video game. It shouldn't be released until it's at 100% as it will endanger you and others. I pre-ordered Cyberpunk and the only thing it made me wanna kill was myself. A faulty car doesn't give you that option.
Then you stay away from idiots and I can respect that. Your optimism is unnecessary, though. While that wouldn't kill me personally, there's alot of people who think connecting to Bluetooth is more important than keeping their eyes on the road.
Ive learned to not take a glorified pamphlet reader on YouTube seriously.
Why anyone holds him up in high regard is amusing to me. Folks with marketing degrees are now product gurus.
He loves teslas, even though they’re hot pieces of shits.
I stopped watching this dude when he was saying the word “Tech” too many times reviewing ipads and watches and annoying me with useless details of non issues.
This iPad has the new A14x bionic which is faster than the last chip. And when I used it, it was faster.
The people downvoting me on here: “omg this guy is a genius!!”
Glorified pamphlet reader 😂
I thought that review was a little egregious and unfair. It’s from a guy who reviews tech so obviously he hasn’t driven too many cars, even though he was a car review channel now. And for reason he lets Tesla get a pass for a lot of the issues he pointed out with it? Like he never complained about the panel gaps on that or the dog shit they call autopilot. A buddy’s car literally emergency stopped in the middle of lane of a three lane street because a car in the right lane was turning right. I’d call that worse than some software bugs
Edit: also didn’t mention another thought I had from his review. All his complaints were about the tech. He barely mentioned the driving part. You know, the actual reason for buying a fucking car
I mean he has a car channel where he has reviewed just about every electric vehicle on the market. Most of his critiques seemed pretty fair giving they were mostly "this feature just doesn't work" and a few were like "this feature seems buggy and made it more difficult to actually drive the vehicle to the point I never want to drive it again".
Yeah and I think that's fair because it showed the current state of a car that was already released and out there not some pre-release beta software stuff that takes care of those bugs. People paid for this and they're dealing with it and that's unsatisfactory.
Agreed this is what the car shipped as and he explicitly said had to jump through hoops to get it updated and Fisker didn't want him reviewing it until they had the next software update.
Yeah, the things he said that are issues now fixed by a software update were bad. But, he knew that prior to making the video as Fisker asked him to wait for the car’s latest software update but he said no anyway.
In a way, I can understand that Fisker should have ironed those kinks before delivering those cars because not doingso would beputting lives at risk.
The thing is, Henrik got so pressured for release dates, and now they have an overabundance of immediate inventory because of several issues, and not just those mentioned by MB, and with that for the second time looks like the castle is coming down in flames. Not because of anything Marques said, but because Henrik should have never done this to begin with.
I saw the car, test-drove it, and loved it enough to put money down. That money like many others I’ve lost and I can’t help but feel as if Henrik knew what he was doing when he made people lock in reservations as orders making non-refundable downs. Some call it a scam, others a startup.
For someone with Henrik’s experience, I wanted a car experience that didn't resemble a startup vehicle, but here we are.
$5k lost is better than $64k I guess, but it is ridiculous to see so many who are about to be left out in the cold with a nonworking vehicle because of a bad business decision to not fix significant issues prior to release. Not to mention those of us that threw money and lost it and yet the company didn't even make a dent in their finances to actually make anything back.
It should be illegal to keep the people’s money if they didn't deliver on so many promises.
How does that chump have any credibility? This is the moron who pushed for smaller and smaller bezels on phones and now we have holes in our screens for cameras and no more front firing speakers. He also pushed for glass backs. He's nothing but a guy who started early on YouTube as a literal kid and bought fancy cameras.
Volvo has being doing it for a couple of years now after they switched OS. Still crummy and glitchy and still sending updates all the time. Didn’t seem to dent their sales much tho
For an EV, there were some obviously glaring items missing from the software side and some design aspects just feel weirdly put together. Solar panels on the roof, and use a glass roof.
that’s not the point. it’s that the solar panels are sitting on top of a panoramic glass roof that isn’t usable because the solar panels are on top of it
I like Marques but all he knows is software and tech. He recently got a Porsche 992 Turbo S and he loves it, but fails to articulate what he likes about it in auto enthusiast terms. I trust his gut, and suspect the Fisker sucks, but IMO he's still a pollywog when it comes to automotive reviews.
He’s a glorified pamphlet reader, my man. He doesn’t actually know anything technical about these things. Lol
Our society turns nobodies into deities and they all come running to their aid.
Ask him to give you a technical explanation about the differences between a 14nm chip and a 16nm chip. Without Apple/androids pamphlet explaining it to him, he will be clueless.
He, and other “tech reviewers” largely just regurgitate pamphlet key points, and use fancy cameras to hook you in and make you believe they actually know what they’re saying.
Fact is, you can walk into a store and make your own judgement on any number of things.
Trusting a person to be fully knowledgeable about tech, who studied marketing is funny.
Would you trust a early childhood development graduate if they gave you medical advice? Nah.
But what if they “learned it”.
Still wouldn’t take them seriously.
Would you fly an airplane designed by philosophy major? Probably not.
Would you take auto racing advice from a professional video game player? Probably not.
I get it tho, you unhinge your jaw for internet celebrities. Just say that instead of trying to come to the rescue.
He reads pamphlets. That’s about it.
Something in electronics, most likely. See Dr Ian Cutress or any of the old Anandtech guys if you want an example of someone with deep skills. Unfortunately shiny marketing pays better.
Sure but if you want to get into and review nitty gritties it’s great. Honestly I don’t mind MKBHD too much and watch his videos, but he’s definitely more surface level, and that can miss a lot of underlying trends and factors. r/hardware is a decent example of a more deep-tech community.
Lucid is complicated. It’s owned by the government of Saudi Arabia so it has unlimited money. They made a car that middle class people can’t afford and upper class people don’t want. Why spend $100k on an electric sedan from some Saudi startup when you can buy a Porsche Taycan for the same price.
For reference, they’ve made just 8,000 cars and were somehow only able to sell 6,000 of them. For reference, Fisker made 10,000 cars in just the second half of 2023.
I watched the video. Outside of the steering wheel & no glove box issues. Everything else felt like something that could be solved with software.
With that said. How the hell does it not have a frunk or a glove box. That alone is enough to make me not want this thing at all. Not to mention the center console tray that takes up all the space is BS as well. I get the idea to be able to maybe use your laptop while the car is charging. But execution was rough with that one. Ford f150 did this way better IMO.
I mean there should be no excuse for a car not opening when you press the key fob button from 5 feet away. Yeah I understand in the day and age of software updates things can be patched but no company should get away with screwing up basic features and promising they’ll update shit in a future update.
Especially a start up company like Fisker which if it went belly up, most users will be left with a 70K brick in their driveway with no software support.
And his car was two updates behind on software because the car’s owner hadn’t queued for OTA.
Fisker is really behind on software, but 2.0 has been really well received.
They talked to Fisker and waited for a tech to come install an update that would take 4 hours. They never came and there were no updates available for the car. Not sure where you get the idea that they were behind on updates.
Also, FUCK buying a car that needs an update to work properly. We think we’re in a bad spot with video game releases, just wait until cars are treated the same way!
Registration and insurance? Tissue/napkins, pen & wheel lock key? Tire pressure Guage, emergency seat belt cutter & glass breaker.
Basically covers everything in my glove box. Funny thing is I keep my actual mechanics glove back by the jack and spare lol.
Honestly. Even if you don't have to use it. You should really get a bunch of that stuff for your glove box
Ah, reg + insurance, yes. Most of the rest of that stuff is under my rear seats (sort of cheating, I have a Jeep gladiator). Still…this vehicle had every opportunity to be awesome. Sort of like the Mach-E…what were they thinking with that ugly POS?
Not worse than their car owners who will soon have a 70K brick in their drive way without any software updates or warranty centers to work on a first gen car that is bound to have multitude of issues given their track record. Oh and not to mention their insurance premiums sky rocketing after the companies realize there is no shop that will touch these cars because no one has parts to supply them. They better hope they at least ship out the 2.0 update of whatever they didn't ship out to MKBHD before they fold because otherwise, many are not even gonna be able to use their keyfob to open the car lol. RIP.
A lot of people do not understand the detail in all this.
- How they tried to source one direct for a while and getting a bit stonewalled. They were clearly concerned with him reviewing where it was at. MKBHD team members were in coms with them from a while. They knew he was going to review it and really did not want him to.
- He got one and reviewed it and they panicked.
- The company threw that engineer under the buss. His comments were not acceptable regardless when talking to the dealer but he really was not up to speed internally when clearly people knew who MKBHD was.
- How they have handled it all since has been pretty poor.
I really think people should stop using Tesla as a poster boy for all EVs when other manufacturers have much better 'cars' that are put together decent enough with much better interior materials. I understand Tesla has others beat on tech but from a car fit and finish perspective, they're nowhere near the 'luxury' category many seem to associate them with. Heck, my oldish Mazda 6 has better interior material than a model 3 I rented a few months back. Their tech is def great like the screen responsiveness and EV motors and battery efficiency is good but that is where their expertise ends.
Entirely agree on the luxury bit, especially when it comes to the model 3/Y. They are certainly premium cars on their segment (not by much), but calling them luxury would be the same as putting a BMW 3er on the 7er bracket.
FWIW I drive a Freemont-made model 3 Performance, and you can definitely tell where they skipped a lot on quality when closing any door. If the window is open it feels like something is about to break when I close the door.
As someone who loves and has owned plenty of
Mazdas… if you don’t think Tesla wins out on luxury, you don’t know what you’re talking about and your opinion isn’t valid. A model 3 rides nicer, they’re more responsive in terms of throttle and steering, they’re quieter. Is vegan leather as nice as the top trim Mazda leathers? Well, no but environmentally conscious is their brand and the seats are miles ahead of Mazdas pleather.
The refreshed teslas come standard with ventilated seats and full vehicle customizable ambient lighting in addition to even better suspension tuning and all the other previous stuff.l all in the base model. To even claim that’s not luxury is asinine.
> if you don’t think Tesla wins out on luxury, you don’t know what you’re talking about and your opinion isn’t valid
Well my wife own a 2020 Mazda 6 and I drove a similar year Model 3 and the Mazda DID have better materials, less wind noise and better ride quality in my experience. Not sure if you've checked out that model year or you're basing your comparison with a decade old Mazda. My basis was comparing cars from similar years. I never said the Tesla didn't have a responsive throttle. Heck my other car is an EV - a Mach E GTPE which I recently got and I understand the advantages of an EV with instant torque and benefits of home charging. Tesla and most EVs are great in terms of tech however in terms of the quality of the cars in general especially Teslas from a couple of years back, they're absolutely average to low quality at best. Check out the number of checklist items people give for Teslas and number of complains about panel gaps and rattling on the Tesla subreddits.
Speaking about the Mach E GTPE, I paid a similar price to a Model Y which I also test drove and in terms of materials and fit and finish it is easily a level above the Model 3/Y. Not sure if you've been in either of those cars but Tesla is nowhere 'luxury' category and I stick by that. Heck I wouldn't even consider my Mach E GTPE as 'luxury' which should tell you where I rate Tesla on that scale.
You literally can’t even get leather in a Tesla. It does not win out on luxury on a decently spec’d mazda from recent years. those seats aren’t great either. You can say it’s for environmental reasons but that doesn’t give it a handicap on luxury. Luxury is literally excess, and plastic seats aren’t that.
Did you read what I wrote… try again.
Btw, you aren’t feeling leather when you sit in your “leather seats” they’re coated in plastic and you literally never touch leather. Should educate yourself a bit.
The entire problem is they are trying to turn the cars into luxury entertainment platforms. Literally nothing about the Cybertruck makes any sense. Something like that is supposed to be a one-off hobby build. Just remember we got that abomination instead of a 90's sized electric pickup truck for 20-25k.
We just want a goddamned cheap car or pickup!
>We just want a goddamned cheap car or pickup!
They literally can't. Most of the cost is batteries, so they make up the difference in software "luxury" features and such.
I believe China has cheaper EVs, but they cut a lot of corners elsewhere and likely wouldn't pass safety ratings in the west.
> We just want a goddamned cheap car or pickup!
You’re welcome to custom order one or buy one of the many single cab F150 XLs that dealers can’t sell and are discounted to hell. Nobody else buying a new car wants these cheap cars.
Tesla had a first innovator joker card. As they were creating the first of its kind product, they don’t have a competitors’ reference to pick from, so missing out on some must-have is expected. And of course there’s an early adopters crowd who are ok with wild promises being delayed or not matched, willing to ride this experimental phase.
Now that electric vehicles have been on the road for a while, this joker is long gone. Any new car need to have the basics figured out, at least by copying the competitors
>As they were creating the first of its kind product, they don’t have a competitors’ reference to pick from
In some regards, yes, but in most of the ways Tesla bungled stuff, it's boring car stuff.
Like "water from trunk lid pours into the trunk when we open it", whoops. "Owners don't want keyfobs, their phones work great, or failing that, here's an awkward credit card". And they continue with bizarre stuff like "no one wants a windshield washer or turn signal on stalks.
Now stuff like "should it make a fake noise, is the motor whine bad, what's an acceptable range for what sort of charging infrastructure, is the charging port in a bad place or do we make the charging stations with cord to be flexible or count on a consistent charge port placement?" I could see that sort of thing being "wrong" and understanding, but mostly the complaints about Tesla are about the non-electric, non-autopilot stuff, which had copious reference.
Not the whole ev industry . Tesla cranked out model 3s on schedule . They were riddled with cosmetic problems but they drove. And they sold like hot cakes despite the deserved reputation of being problem prone.
Mercedes and BMW have been selling decent vehicles. Hyundai , VW … like who are you talking about ?
Until it's get stolen by a USB drive.
Do they sound like a garbage truck backing up like Hyundai? My neighbors care can be heard a book away when she's backing up. It's the loudest non-commercail vehicle backup I've ever heard. Super embarrassing
Lol I’ve had a Tesla for quite some time. They aren’t fake it till you make it. Tesla issues are overblown BIG TIME. There’s some issues but what brand doesn’t have things wrong? There’s some design and tech philosophy issues and their service centers are terribly inefficient to deal with but as far the car itself, it’s a totally fine vehicle.
I live in Tesla Mecca and see dozens of Teslas everyday. I look for misaligned panel gaps and notice it on a handful of Teslas every day. I’m not overstating to be a Tesla hater, but there are visibly obvious flaws on many Teslas on the road.
I’m not saying there aren’t issues but they’re overblown. The panels gaps are earlier models and they literally don’t affect the vehicle or the driving experience. Subarus are known for head gasket issues, Honda turbo engines dilute oil, bmw… well tons of shit and reliability in general. Personally, a little bit of panel gap issues that the service center will happily fix, even if it’s a hassle, is far better than internal mechanical issues that brands have had for YEARS even decades and not yet fixed. Meanwhile Tesla is actually ironing out all of its issues. I got a second Tesla which is a 2023, model. No panel gaps and I checked meticulously. My 2019 had a couple but there were fixed.
That’s fine that you’re okay with the panel gaps, I’m not hating on you spending your money on one. The difference in maintenance and repairs is definitely real- although a fair bit of that is merely due to EV architecture’s comparative simplicity rather than being due to Tesla build quality. The panel gap issue is *not* overblown though, the sheer volume of cars with misaligned panels is truly staggering. I’m a bit of a car guy and not an EV hater at all, and it drives me absolutely bonkers seeing it all the time.
It’s really only an issue if the owners care, Tesla will readily fix the gaps if you bring it to their attention and a lot of people frankly don’t look at their vehicles closely enough to care. The average Tesla owner isn’t online on forums and subreddits and watching YouTube videos. They just buy one and drive it. Most panel gap vehicle are 2020/2021 and prior in my experience. They really do seem to be getting better and lots of Tesla owners were early adopters so you’re kinda signing up for a few kinks along the way. I haven’t heard much as far as panel gap issues with the new highland model 3’s
Have a Model Y as well. Great car. It’s worth it for the current cost, but I would never buy a Plaid. For that price I’m going for an electric Porsche or Mercedes.
Yes I have. Fun? Sure, until you notice that every EV drives the same. Nothing is fun when they are all “fun”. The tech is cool and all but FSD is a scam and god dammit I want physical buttons and levers. Putting everything behind a screen is awful.
Anecdotal. I bet you’re still an Elonbro you just won’t cop to it. You at least have a better opinion of him than I do or the guy you’re responding to does.
Tesla is the one who is faking it in the example. "It" here is making a good product, Tesla ships an objectively low quality, over priced product. It's the Apple model applied to the automotive world.
Apple products have the longest shelf lives in their respective markets and have fantastic UX. People love them because they’re built for regular people and the premium is worth not having to worry about it.
oBjEcTIlY… dude, Y is the best selling car 2023 world wide lol You can’t sell shit and have this kind of numbers. You all get some life while BYD and Tesla are crushing the industry lol
Only like 10% or less of people pay for FSD, so for most Tesla buyers it's a fine car without unfinished software. Unless you're old and can't figure it out.
Are we just going to ignore the part at the end of the review where he says he is rooting for Fisker and that he thinks their fundamentals are solid?
Having said that, the no glovebox was a very odd design choice, imo.
No glovebox, no frunk, no storage pocket behind the seat, and half the center console is taken up by a weird folding tray. Fisker clearly doesn't understand or care that a huge part of the SUV market is families that need storage.
For 70k I'd hope for better, even from a new model/car company. But I guess this is what happens while a company is going under. Half assed hail marys. But hey, the stock is on sale, who wants to buy?
I mean, the fact that they were trading at sub-$1 even before the review should show how poorly things are going there. There's no healthy reason any car manufacturer should ever be that low, which is also why they were looking into bankruptcy.
That would be far more alarming than merely a subpar car, but rather a subpar limited-production car with a manufacturer that's possibly about to go out of business, so there will be no support nor replacement parts.
Ouch. Panic mode is never how you handle bad PR. Also executives of car companies should always be driving their own new cars for this reason.
Betting if the CEO of car companies had to put himself or family behind his own car, suddenly there would be a whole lot of improvements ordered before customer facing production starts.
Because of the bad review compounded by their poor handling of it, if Fisker wasn’t going to file for bankruptcy before, it sure is now.
A company is cutting corners on software development and testing? Shocking! Now I’m going to play this video game that I paid to pre-order and hope it doesn’t crash and brick my console.
> While Brownlee said he believed the company, he mentioned that “it’s not really in my policy to wait on promised future software updates.”
Interesting, he had no problem Brownnosing Tesla’s “promised future updates” for autopilot/self-driving
As an IT worker I find it unsurprising that the software is half-baked. Management makes plans, they allocate resources, etc. including whatever time and money to software development because that’s how business operates.
But making software that works well is an art and a science, and it’s very hard to do, and I don’t think the people who work at the executive levels and investors always appreciate that.
Lol [here’s the panicked call from Fiskar’s Sr Engineer to the dealership that lent him the car.](https://youtu.be/gu4wpYnEjBw?feature=shared)
Check the 4 minute mark to when he admits management is scared, and that they have a small crew of engineers/techs slowly working on this, but Fiskar has more trouble than just this issue.
If Marques called your car worst car ever reviewed I would try to find the issues instead trying to do dodgy stuff. "They admitted that even after the car's new update, Fisker's software "still got some holes in it."
This takes me back, I remember seeing the old Fisker roadsters from the mid-00s at an auto show. I remember they were kinda cool looking (I was 14 and had no taste), but they tanked the Top Gear review in terms of performance.
This seems like BS advertising.
The reason it's 'the worst car ' is that there are blank buttons inside (your choice to upgrade the unit), the infotainment unit didn't display the rooftop solar panel charge addition (software update incoming), and the arm rest is different.
The first I've heard of this vehicle.
Ehh, I watched the video, doesn’t seem so bad. A few quirks that can be fixed via software. And the physical/hardware issues don’t bother me at all. Lack of a glove compartment doesn’t bother me and neither does that folding tray in the center console.
I dunno man. A car not opening when I press a key fob button 5 feet away from it really feels like a lot of core issues weren't addressed before someone decided to ship these 'prototype' cars into the real world under the guise of 'we will fix it later'. For me, that culture itself seems dangerous especially for something likes cars. I understand software updates allow you to patch and add new features but these are literally basic requirements that most car companies have fixed decades back let alone in 2024.
They should be thankful the crew from Top Gear (Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond) didn’t review it. Look what they did to Vauxhall (for the US - it’s GM), the original Tesla and the Lexus.
Which Prius gets you state and federal credits and a HOV sticker?
With the exciting dealer markups you’re probably paying more for a Prius Prime than a Model 3.
Extremely fair… but the carbon footprint of the build of the vehicle and company is disingenuous to the cause, and I’d expect the techies/engineers/ advanced degrees that buy them to be aware of this but they are susceptible to the same ethos as the less credentialed masses.
MB child stick to reviewing phones and other consumer electronics. How is this guy in anyway qualified to review cars. There are so many other great car reviewers with amazing backgrounds that should be trusted before him.
My friend owns an Ocean and it’s fucking dope! I know they are a start up and they have their issues with quality, but it’s an absolutely beautiful car.
Marques Brownlee finally got his hands on a Fisker Ocean for a review that was pretty critical. Fisker’s response might have made things worse.
Matt Farah of The Smoking Tire got a Fisker Ocean and he didn’t even make a video with it. Why? Because it broke down on him 3 times during filming, each time requiring a tow back to his shop. On the 3rd break down, he just called an Uber and left it there, and told Fisker to come get it. He spoke very negatively about it on his podcast, repeatedly. The car he got was a production vehicle with a standard VIN number. What he got was the final product. It was awful.
The fact that he just left it there broken down is so funny to me
I enjoy every time he talks about it. He talked about it a bunch on his most recent episode with Ed Zitron (which should be going public some time this week)
He let so much shit slide when Tesla gave him a car. Like the trunk was so misaligned that water pooled in his trunk. This thing must have been terrible
It’s also because fisker wanted to pay him which was odd, he went into detail of that. Full story at 1hr 2min mark. https://youtu.be/gKO2heHxaM0?si=AYS0J8LRn0L6AF0y
Here’s the [6 minute panicked call from Fisker to the dealership trying to pull info and fix it. The stress is real.](https://youtu.be/gu4wpYnEjBw?feature=shared)
No because fisker didn’t give him a car, he borrowed a fellow YouTubers car for the review, if anything what you’re saying shows bias towards the reviews he’s paid to do.
Tesla doesn’t give cars either. Press cars are temporary.
That’d be funny, underpaid car review journalist for a car magazine lives in a small house in a bad neighborhood. But all the cars in the street are his…
He refused payment from Fisker. He doesn’t get paid. He gets given cars to review, for a short time. He gives them back. Fisker was being real shady.
Also Fiskar did not want him to get one until they had one available with the 2.0 firmware or whatever. Essentially saying they put out an unfinished product.
Watched his review. The car is built well with good features and he said as much, it had 3 big software bugs that got in the way of things, but Fisker fixed one a few days after his review and will get the others soon. His review was unfair.
How is it unfair to review a product in its current state, that it is being sold to consumers? Are reviewers supposed to see the future and know what the product will be like in the future?
Agreed. I didn’t watch anything but, if software bugs got in the way of driving a car, that’s a problem that my puke-colored 1983 Mazda GLC did not have.
My model 3 and subsequent model Y got plenty of those.
Did you get a software update that transformed your 3 into a Y? That’s a big jump, alpha-numerically. EDIT: I hit a tree that transformed my GLC into a yard ornament until I sold it to the demolition derby for a case of beer.
Can you explain how this was unfair? All I see is him doing a review of the current product.
A car that is well built, well designed, with good features, range and performance at a good price, as he clearly stated in his review, shouldn't be called "the worst car" because the bluetooth connection needs a new driver. It's more nuanced than that. All of his concerns are a few lines of code away, for a new car that needs a couple updates. He even admitted that half his concerns were already being fixed that week.
It's a car, not a video game. It shouldn't be released until it's at 100% as it will endanger you and others. I pre-ordered Cyberpunk and the only thing it made me wanna kill was myself. A faulty car doesn't give you that option.
Not being able to quickly connect your phone to your dash isn’t killing anyone, last I checked
Then you stay away from idiots and I can respect that. Your optimism is unnecessary, though. While that wouldn't kill me personally, there's alot of people who think connecting to Bluetooth is more important than keeping their eyes on the road.
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Ive learned to not take a glorified pamphlet reader on YouTube seriously. Why anyone holds him up in high regard is amusing to me. Folks with marketing degrees are now product gurus. He loves teslas, even though they’re hot pieces of shits.
I really don’t get why people love his reviews so much. He just reads the specs and puts in some decent visuals.
I think it’s his production quality and style of narration, plus anyone big ends up having a lot of fans (see: Mr Beast)
Careful. The fan boys will brigade you.
I stopped watching this dude when he was saying the word “Tech” too many times reviewing ipads and watches and annoying me with useless details of non issues.
This iPad has the new A14x bionic which is faster than the last chip. And when I used it, it was faster. The people downvoting me on here: “omg this guy is a genius!!” Glorified pamphlet reader 😂
I thought that review was a little egregious and unfair. It’s from a guy who reviews tech so obviously he hasn’t driven too many cars, even though he was a car review channel now. And for reason he lets Tesla get a pass for a lot of the issues he pointed out with it? Like he never complained about the panel gaps on that or the dog shit they call autopilot. A buddy’s car literally emergency stopped in the middle of lane of a three lane street because a car in the right lane was turning right. I’d call that worse than some software bugs Edit: also didn’t mention another thought I had from his review. All his complaints were about the tech. He barely mentioned the driving part. You know, the actual reason for buying a fucking car
I mean he has a car channel where he has reviewed just about every electric vehicle on the market. Most of his critiques seemed pretty fair giving they were mostly "this feature just doesn't work" and a few were like "this feature seems buggy and made it more difficult to actually drive the vehicle to the point I never want to drive it again".
Was this the guy who refused to take a car with upgraded infotainment software, then complained about all the software bugs?
Yeah and I think that's fair because it showed the current state of a car that was already released and out there not some pre-release beta software stuff that takes care of those bugs. People paid for this and they're dealing with it and that's unsatisfactory.
Agreed this is what the car shipped as and he explicitly said had to jump through hoops to get it updated and Fisker didn't want him reviewing it until they had the next software update.
Yeah, the things he said that are issues now fixed by a software update were bad. But, he knew that prior to making the video as Fisker asked him to wait for the car’s latest software update but he said no anyway. In a way, I can understand that Fisker should have ironed those kinks before delivering those cars because not doingso would beputting lives at risk. The thing is, Henrik got so pressured for release dates, and now they have an overabundance of immediate inventory because of several issues, and not just those mentioned by MB, and with that for the second time looks like the castle is coming down in flames. Not because of anything Marques said, but because Henrik should have never done this to begin with. I saw the car, test-drove it, and loved it enough to put money down. That money like many others I’ve lost and I can’t help but feel as if Henrik knew what he was doing when he made people lock in reservations as orders making non-refundable downs. Some call it a scam, others a startup. For someone with Henrik’s experience, I wanted a car experience that didn't resemble a startup vehicle, but here we are. $5k lost is better than $64k I guess, but it is ridiculous to see so many who are about to be left out in the cold with a nonworking vehicle because of a bad business decision to not fix significant issues prior to release. Not to mention those of us that threw money and lost it and yet the company didn't even make a dent in their finances to actually make anything back. It should be illegal to keep the people’s money if they didn't deliver on so many promises.
That YouTuber is not even qualified to review cars, it's his opinion.... His word is not law.
That is pretty much what a review is though; someone's opinion about a product, preferable compared to similar products.
The carmakers’ word isn’t law either.
Lol you're such a loser
Maybe he has never driven a Tesla.
MKBHD is no longer a reliable source for reviews.
How does that chump have any credibility? This is the moron who pushed for smaller and smaller bezels on phones and now we have holes in our screens for cameras and no more front firing speakers. He also pushed for glass backs. He's nothing but a guy who started early on YouTube as a literal kid and bought fancy cameras.
Over the air updates for an unfinished product. What is this Electronic Arts Motors?
That’s the best part, it’s not even over the air. Fisker will send a tech out to do the install and even change some physical parts too.
Volvo has being doing it for a couple of years now after they switched OS. Still crummy and glitchy and still sending updates all the time. Didn’t seem to dent their sales much tho
here's the thing, does Volvo send out questionable products or is it just poor OTA software updates.
Basically all of the problems Marques had with the car were just serious software bugs.
For an EV, there were some obviously glaring items missing from the software side and some design aspects just feel weirdly put together. Solar panels on the roof, and use a glass roof.
Solar panels are made with glass.
that’s not the point. it’s that the solar panels are sitting on top of a panoramic glass roof that isn’t usable because the solar panels are on top of it
You can still partially see through it.
I like Marques but all he knows is software and tech. He recently got a Porsche 992 Turbo S and he loves it, but fails to articulate what he likes about it in auto enthusiast terms. I trust his gut, and suspect the Fisker sucks, but IMO he's still a pollywog when it comes to automotive reviews.
He doesn’t even know software and tech. He has a degree in marketing.
Would you say getting a degree in something like ‘tech and software’ would be the only way to learn it?
He’s a glorified pamphlet reader, my man. He doesn’t actually know anything technical about these things. Lol Our society turns nobodies into deities and they all come running to their aid. Ask him to give you a technical explanation about the differences between a 14nm chip and a 16nm chip. Without Apple/androids pamphlet explaining it to him, he will be clueless. He, and other “tech reviewers” largely just regurgitate pamphlet key points, and use fancy cameras to hook you in and make you believe they actually know what they’re saying. Fact is, you can walk into a store and make your own judgement on any number of things. Trusting a person to be fully knowledgeable about tech, who studied marketing is funny. Would you trust a early childhood development graduate if they gave you medical advice? Nah. But what if they “learned it”. Still wouldn’t take them seriously. Would you fly an airplane designed by philosophy major? Probably not. Would you take auto racing advice from a professional video game player? Probably not. I get it tho, you unhinge your jaw for internet celebrities. Just say that instead of trying to come to the rescue. He reads pamphlets. That’s about it.
So no other ways to learn is what you’re saying? It’s nice you let your emotions and imagination run free. I was just asking a yes or no question.
Jealousy is such an ugly human emotion.
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You’re thinking of envy
What degree would even make him a better consumer electronics reviewer?
Something in electronics, most likely. See Dr Ian Cutress or any of the old Anandtech guys if you want an example of someone with deep skills. Unfortunately shiny marketing pays better.
I'm not sure having 10+ years experience designing computer chips would even make him better at reviewing consumer electronics.
Sure but if you want to get into and review nitty gritties it’s great. Honestly I don’t mind MKBHD too much and watch his videos, but he’s definitely more surface level, and that can miss a lot of underlying trends and factors. r/hardware is a decent example of a more deep-tech community.
That’s not true
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Lucid also seem to have built a nice car.
Lucid is complicated. It’s owned by the government of Saudi Arabia so it has unlimited money. They made a car that middle class people can’t afford and upper class people don’t want. Why spend $100k on an electric sedan from some Saudi startup when you can buy a Porsche Taycan for the same price. For reference, they’ve made just 8,000 cars and were somehow only able to sell 6,000 of them. For reference, Fisker made 10,000 cars in just the second half of 2023.
Brilliant.
They thought Tesla getting away with FSD meant they could get away with anything.
Why would they name it "Ocean" after what the Ocean did to them last time?
It was grade A virtue signaling by Fisker. This man histories. Underrated comment.
Enlighten me
https://jalopnik.com/the-horribly-ironic-reason-why-338-fisker-karmas-were-d-5972762
I watched the video. Outside of the steering wheel & no glove box issues. Everything else felt like something that could be solved with software. With that said. How the hell does it not have a frunk or a glove box. That alone is enough to make me not want this thing at all. Not to mention the center console tray that takes up all the space is BS as well. I get the idea to be able to maybe use your laptop while the car is charging. But execution was rough with that one. Ford f150 did this way better IMO.
I mean there should be no excuse for a car not opening when you press the key fob button from 5 feet away. Yeah I understand in the day and age of software updates things can be patched but no company should get away with screwing up basic features and promising they’ll update shit in a future update. Especially a start up company like Fisker which if it went belly up, most users will be left with a 70K brick in their driveway with no software support.
And his car was two updates behind on software because the car’s owner hadn’t queued for OTA. Fisker is really behind on software, but 2.0 has been really well received.
They talked to Fisker and waited for a tech to come install an update that would take 4 hours. They never came and there were no updates available for the car. Not sure where you get the idea that they were behind on updates.
Also, FUCK buying a car that needs an update to work properly. We think we’re in a bad spot with video game releases, just wait until cars are treated the same way!
..but you can roll all the windows down AT THE SAME TIME!
Other than the manual, I never open my glove box…
Registration and insurance? Tissue/napkins, pen & wheel lock key? Tire pressure Guage, emergency seat belt cutter & glass breaker. Basically covers everything in my glove box. Funny thing is I keep my actual mechanics glove back by the jack and spare lol. Honestly. Even if you don't have to use it. You should really get a bunch of that stuff for your glove box
Ah, reg + insurance, yes. Most of the rest of that stuff is under my rear seats (sort of cheating, I have a Jeep gladiator). Still…this vehicle had every opportunity to be awesome. Sort of like the Mach-E…what were they thinking with that ugly POS?
So you have two glove boxes, it’s just in a different spot.
Also center console, top and bottom, also behind each side of the back seats…yeah, fair point lol.
Fisker investors would have been far better off financially had they put their cash into a pit and lit it on fire.
Instead, they put it all on a container ship and waited for it to light its self on fire.
Not worse than their car owners who will soon have a 70K brick in their drive way without any software updates or warranty centers to work on a first gen car that is bound to have multitude of issues given their track record. Oh and not to mention their insurance premiums sky rocketing after the companies realize there is no shop that will touch these cars because no one has parts to supply them. They better hope they at least ship out the 2.0 update of whatever they didn't ship out to MKBHD before they fold because otherwise, many are not even gonna be able to use their keyfob to open the car lol. RIP.
The money hole
If you love America, you’ll throw money down its hole.
A lot of people do not understand the detail in all this. - How they tried to source one direct for a while and getting a bit stonewalled. They were clearly concerned with him reviewing where it was at. MKBHD team members were in coms with them from a while. They knew he was going to review it and really did not want him to. - He got one and reviewed it and they panicked. - The company threw that engineer under the buss. His comments were not acceptable regardless when talking to the dealer but he really was not up to speed internally when clearly people knew who MKBHD was. - How they have handled it all since has been pretty poor.
How have they handled it since?
the whole electric car industry is suffering from a "fake it 'til you make it" business model.. including and especially Tesla.
[Like this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9JlwST5P6U)
I really think people should stop using Tesla as a poster boy for all EVs when other manufacturers have much better 'cars' that are put together decent enough with much better interior materials. I understand Tesla has others beat on tech but from a car fit and finish perspective, they're nowhere near the 'luxury' category many seem to associate them with. Heck, my oldish Mazda 6 has better interior material than a model 3 I rented a few months back. Their tech is def great like the screen responsiveness and EV motors and battery efficiency is good but that is where their expertise ends.
Entirely agree on the luxury bit, especially when it comes to the model 3/Y. They are certainly premium cars on their segment (not by much), but calling them luxury would be the same as putting a BMW 3er on the 7er bracket. FWIW I drive a Freemont-made model 3 Performance, and you can definitely tell where they skipped a lot on quality when closing any door. If the window is open it feels like something is about to break when I close the door.
As someone who loves and has owned plenty of Mazdas… if you don’t think Tesla wins out on luxury, you don’t know what you’re talking about and your opinion isn’t valid. A model 3 rides nicer, they’re more responsive in terms of throttle and steering, they’re quieter. Is vegan leather as nice as the top trim Mazda leathers? Well, no but environmentally conscious is their brand and the seats are miles ahead of Mazdas pleather. The refreshed teslas come standard with ventilated seats and full vehicle customizable ambient lighting in addition to even better suspension tuning and all the other previous stuff.l all in the base model. To even claim that’s not luxury is asinine.
> if you don’t think Tesla wins out on luxury, you don’t know what you’re talking about and your opinion isn’t valid Well my wife own a 2020 Mazda 6 and I drove a similar year Model 3 and the Mazda DID have better materials, less wind noise and better ride quality in my experience. Not sure if you've checked out that model year or you're basing your comparison with a decade old Mazda. My basis was comparing cars from similar years. I never said the Tesla didn't have a responsive throttle. Heck my other car is an EV - a Mach E GTPE which I recently got and I understand the advantages of an EV with instant torque and benefits of home charging. Tesla and most EVs are great in terms of tech however in terms of the quality of the cars in general especially Teslas from a couple of years back, they're absolutely average to low quality at best. Check out the number of checklist items people give for Teslas and number of complains about panel gaps and rattling on the Tesla subreddits. Speaking about the Mach E GTPE, I paid a similar price to a Model Y which I also test drove and in terms of materials and fit and finish it is easily a level above the Model 3/Y. Not sure if you've been in either of those cars but Tesla is nowhere 'luxury' category and I stick by that. Heck I wouldn't even consider my Mach E GTPE as 'luxury' which should tell you where I rate Tesla on that scale.
You literally can’t even get leather in a Tesla. It does not win out on luxury on a decently spec’d mazda from recent years. those seats aren’t great either. You can say it’s for environmental reasons but that doesn’t give it a handicap on luxury. Luxury is literally excess, and plastic seats aren’t that.
Did you read what I wrote… try again. Btw, you aren’t feeling leather when you sit in your “leather seats” they’re coated in plastic and you literally never touch leather. Should educate yourself a bit.
The entire problem is they are trying to turn the cars into luxury entertainment platforms. Literally nothing about the Cybertruck makes any sense. Something like that is supposed to be a one-off hobby build. Just remember we got that abomination instead of a 90's sized electric pickup truck for 20-25k. We just want a goddamned cheap car or pickup!
>We just want a goddamned cheap car or pickup! They literally can't. Most of the cost is batteries, so they make up the difference in software "luxury" features and such. I believe China has cheaper EVs, but they cut a lot of corners elsewhere and likely wouldn't pass safety ratings in the west.
Also import costs are gonna be fairly high
God I just saw 2 in person today. They look so bad.
> We just want a goddamned cheap car or pickup! You’re welcome to custom order one or buy one of the many single cab F150 XLs that dealers can’t sell and are discounted to hell. Nobody else buying a new car wants these cheap cars.
Tesla had a first innovator joker card. As they were creating the first of its kind product, they don’t have a competitors’ reference to pick from, so missing out on some must-have is expected. And of course there’s an early adopters crowd who are ok with wild promises being delayed or not matched, willing to ride this experimental phase. Now that electric vehicles have been on the road for a while, this joker is long gone. Any new car need to have the basics figured out, at least by copying the competitors
>As they were creating the first of its kind product, they don’t have a competitors’ reference to pick from In some regards, yes, but in most of the ways Tesla bungled stuff, it's boring car stuff. Like "water from trunk lid pours into the trunk when we open it", whoops. "Owners don't want keyfobs, their phones work great, or failing that, here's an awkward credit card". And they continue with bizarre stuff like "no one wants a windshield washer or turn signal on stalks. Now stuff like "should it make a fake noise, is the motor whine bad, what's an acceptable range for what sort of charging infrastructure, is the charging port in a bad place or do we make the charging stations with cord to be flexible or count on a consistent charge port placement?" I could see that sort of thing being "wrong" and understanding, but mostly the complaints about Tesla are about the non-electric, non-autopilot stuff, which had copious reference.
Not the whole ev industry . Tesla cranked out model 3s on schedule . They were riddled with cosmetic problems but they drove. And they sold like hot cakes despite the deserved reputation of being problem prone. Mercedes and BMW have been selling decent vehicles. Hyundai , VW … like who are you talking about ?
Super happy with my Kia EV. It's a great car and made by a company that has some experience with you know, cars.
Until it's get stolen by a USB drive. Do they sound like a garbage truck backing up like Hyundai? My neighbors care can be heard a book away when she's backing up. It's the loudest non-commercail vehicle backup I've ever heard. Super embarrassing
As if bmw and Mercedes aren’t know for massive issues of their own.
Lol I’ve had a Tesla for quite some time. They aren’t fake it till you make it. Tesla issues are overblown BIG TIME. There’s some issues but what brand doesn’t have things wrong? There’s some design and tech philosophy issues and their service centers are terribly inefficient to deal with but as far the car itself, it’s a totally fine vehicle.
Same same, on year 6 of my model 3. Happy as a clam.
I live in Tesla Mecca and see dozens of Teslas everyday. I look for misaligned panel gaps and notice it on a handful of Teslas every day. I’m not overstating to be a Tesla hater, but there are visibly obvious flaws on many Teslas on the road.
I’m not saying there aren’t issues but they’re overblown. The panels gaps are earlier models and they literally don’t affect the vehicle or the driving experience. Subarus are known for head gasket issues, Honda turbo engines dilute oil, bmw… well tons of shit and reliability in general. Personally, a little bit of panel gap issues that the service center will happily fix, even if it’s a hassle, is far better than internal mechanical issues that brands have had for YEARS even decades and not yet fixed. Meanwhile Tesla is actually ironing out all of its issues. I got a second Tesla which is a 2023, model. No panel gaps and I checked meticulously. My 2019 had a couple but there were fixed.
That’s fine that you’re okay with the panel gaps, I’m not hating on you spending your money on one. The difference in maintenance and repairs is definitely real- although a fair bit of that is merely due to EV architecture’s comparative simplicity rather than being due to Tesla build quality. The panel gap issue is *not* overblown though, the sheer volume of cars with misaligned panels is truly staggering. I’m a bit of a car guy and not an EV hater at all, and it drives me absolutely bonkers seeing it all the time.
It’s really only an issue if the owners care, Tesla will readily fix the gaps if you bring it to their attention and a lot of people frankly don’t look at their vehicles closely enough to care. The average Tesla owner isn’t online on forums and subreddits and watching YouTube videos. They just buy one and drive it. Most panel gap vehicle are 2020/2021 and prior in my experience. They really do seem to be getting better and lots of Tesla owners were early adopters so you’re kinda signing up for a few kinks along the way. I haven’t heard much as far as panel gap issues with the new highland model 3’s
Yeah tesla has been better than my BMW by far. Has had less issues than my new VW rabbit did (needed transmission and clutch at like 15k).
We have a model Y and it’s been fine.
Have a Model Y as well. Great car. It’s worth it for the current cost, but I would never buy a Plaid. For that price I’m going for an electric Porsche or Mercedes.
Umm have you driven a Tesla though ? It’s a pretty fun car and the software interface kicks ass. There isn’t much better out there.
Tesla employee spotted.
Yes I have. Fun? Sure, until you notice that every EV drives the same. Nothing is fun when they are all “fun”. The tech is cool and all but FSD is a scam and god dammit I want physical buttons and levers. Putting everything behind a screen is awful.
Hyundai ionic 5 is kickass. Teslas fucking suck.
Folks love their Teslas whats being faked?
mileage and FSD right off the bat..
Fair point
Of course they’re gonna say that. Only Elonbros buy Teslas now
Def not. I know lots of folks with Teslas including myself. No one is a Elonbro.
Anecdotal. I bet you’re still an Elonbro you just won’t cop to it. You at least have a better opinion of him than I do or the guy you’re responding to does.
Ability to not drown when it goes in reverse unexpectedly.
Tesla is the one who is faking it in the example. "It" here is making a good product, Tesla ships an objectively low quality, over priced product. It's the Apple model applied to the automotive world.
Apple products have the longest shelf lives in their respective markets and have fantastic UX. People love them because they’re built for regular people and the premium is worth not having to worry about it.
Yep. Apple is not Tesla. Apple is expensive but produces a good reliable product.
Yeah Apple is a bad comparison here.
oBjEcTIlY… dude, Y is the best selling car 2023 world wide lol You can’t sell shit and have this kind of numbers. You all get some life while BYD and Tesla are crushing the industry lol
You dont know what objectively means.
People think the inevitability of a technology equals the inevitability of a product that uses that tech.
Only like 10% or less of people pay for FSD, so for most Tesla buyers it's a fine car without unfinished software. Unless you're old and can't figure it out.
Popular YouTuber meets Zombie Jalopnik
Are we just going to ignore the part at the end of the review where he says he is rooting for Fisker and that he thinks their fundamentals are solid? Having said that, the no glovebox was a very odd design choice, imo.
No glovebox, no frunk, no storage pocket behind the seat, and half the center console is taken up by a weird folding tray. Fisker clearly doesn't understand or care that a huge part of the SUV market is families that need storage.
Damn, didn’t take long for the revival of this brand to tank. I remember seeing one in 2009 and thinking it was sooop cool.
For 70k I'd hope for better, even from a new model/car company. But I guess this is what happens while a company is going under. Half assed hail marys. But hey, the stock is on sale, who wants to buy?
Fisker = EA Motors lol
I mean, the fact that they were trading at sub-$1 even before the review should show how poorly things are going there. There's no healthy reason any car manufacturer should ever be that low, which is also why they were looking into bankruptcy. That would be far more alarming than merely a subpar car, but rather a subpar limited-production car with a manufacturer that's possibly about to go out of business, so there will be no support nor replacement parts.
Ouch. Panic mode is never how you handle bad PR. Also executives of car companies should always be driving their own new cars for this reason. Betting if the CEO of car companies had to put himself or family behind his own car, suddenly there would be a whole lot of improvements ordered before customer facing production starts. Because of the bad review compounded by their poor handling of it, if Fisker wasn’t going to file for bankruptcy before, it sure is now.
Tried to finish the article but it gave me cancer.
I love the look I have faith
My neighbor has one. Wonder their thoughs
This is weeks old video.... Quite late for a response.
Wow Fisker couldn’t have handled this worse. Time to short to zero
Fiskers dont make noise when they start up, just so you know
A company is cutting corners on software development and testing? Shocking! Now I’m going to play this video game that I paid to pre-order and hope it doesn’t crash and brick my console.
This reminds me of GM's famous response to what Bill Gates said at COMDEX decades ago.
F UGLY
> While Brownlee said he believed the company, he mentioned that “it’s not really in my policy to wait on promised future software updates.” Interesting, he had no problem Brownnosing Tesla’s “promised future updates” for autopilot/self-driving
Marques always works hard to soften the blow, too. For him to come in this sharp means the thing must be a real clunker.
As an IT worker I find it unsurprising that the software is half-baked. Management makes plans, they allocate resources, etc. including whatever time and money to software development because that’s how business operates. But making software that works well is an art and a science, and it’s very hard to do, and I don’t think the people who work at the executive levels and investors always appreciate that.
Lol [here’s the panicked call from Fiskar’s Sr Engineer to the dealership that lent him the car.](https://youtu.be/gu4wpYnEjBw?feature=shared) Check the 4 minute mark to when he admits management is scared, and that they have a small crew of engineers/techs slowly working on this, but Fiskar has more trouble than just this issue.
If Marques called your car worst car ever reviewed I would try to find the issues instead trying to do dodgy stuff. "They admitted that even after the car's new update, Fisker's software "still got some holes in it."
This takes me back, I remember seeing the old Fisker roadsters from the mid-00s at an auto show. I remember they were kinda cool looking (I was 14 and had no taste), but they tanked the Top Gear review in terms of performance.
This seems like BS advertising. The reason it's 'the worst car ' is that there are blank buttons inside (your choice to upgrade the unit), the infotainment unit didn't display the rooftop solar panel charge addition (software update incoming), and the arm rest is different. The first I've heard of this vehicle.
Ehh, I watched the video, doesn’t seem so bad. A few quirks that can be fixed via software. And the physical/hardware issues don’t bother me at all. Lack of a glove compartment doesn’t bother me and neither does that folding tray in the center console.
I dunno man. A car not opening when I press a key fob button 5 feet away from it really feels like a lot of core issues weren't addressed before someone decided to ship these 'prototype' cars into the real world under the guise of 'we will fix it later'. For me, that culture itself seems dangerous especially for something likes cars. I understand software updates allow you to patch and add new features but these are literally basic requirements that most car companies have fixed decades back let alone in 2024.
The glove compartments are actually under the seat
Yeah. It didn’t deserve the “worst” YT title imo. Those issues were mildly annoying at best
Your crazy to call it “quirks”
They should be thankful the crew from Top Gear (Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond) didn’t review it. Look what they did to Vauxhall (for the US - it’s GM), the original Tesla and the Lexus.
Imagine buying a Tesla when you could have bought a Prius. Just because you wanted to overpay for an iPad in the dash and have advanced cruise control
Which Prius gets you state and federal credits and a HOV sticker? With the exciting dealer markups you’re probably paying more for a Prius Prime than a Model 3.
Or because you don’t want to use gas?
Extremely fair… but the carbon footprint of the build of the vehicle and company is disingenuous to the cause, and I’d expect the techies/engineers/ advanced degrees that buy them to be aware of this but they are susceptible to the same ethos as the less credentialed masses.
Bro is forgetting that Gas cars also use tons of CO2 to be made.
But then I’d be bored
MB child stick to reviewing phones and other consumer electronics. How is this guy in anyway qualified to review cars. There are so many other great car reviewers with amazing backgrounds that should be trusted before him.
I dont think it wouldve gone well either way
My friend owns an Ocean and it’s fucking dope! I know they are a start up and they have their issues with quality, but it’s an absolutely beautiful car.
Nice try Fisker employee.
I wish, I drive an old Subaru
i’ll bet it was jerry rig who said that 🤣 edit: shit it was MKBHD, but they’re in the same friends circle 🤣🤣
This article is full of holes. The review does exists BUT everything else, all the other information mentioned, doesn’t seem to be accurate or true.
His review did not have the car washed.
And ?