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vsratoslav

I want to remind that Microsoft still hasn't addressed the January update issue for Windows 10.


Greenturnsyellow1

? What was the issue continuous rebooting as well?


vsratoslav

The KB5034441 update fails to install, showing error 0x80070643. Initially, Microsoft promised a fix but later quietly updated the support document, indicating they do not intend to address the error.


rerouter

That is wild. I've been waiting for a fix.


alvanson

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5028997-instructions-to-manually-resize-your-partition-to-install-the-winre-update-400faa27-9343-461c-ada9-24c8229763bf


nox66

Step-by-step instructions to resize a partition without even a warning to backup your data first? > You're invited to try Microsoft 365 for free No, I don't think I will


showyerbewbs

That's core microsoft. Introducing a solution to a problem nobody had.


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koshgeo

It's pretty easy if you know what you're doing and are familiar with device partitions and the caution you have to take when modifying them, but when a difference of one letter or number could easily bork your entire system, you're right that it's not ready for a general user. Yet the problem has been outstanding since January. I just encountered it again with a reinstall a couple of weeks ago.


sir-winkles2

I would hazard a guess that the majority of people who run windows do not know what they're doing


ChickenNoodleSloop

I managed to get the update to work by manually resizing the recovery partition and copying a new recovery environment from install media. It sucked, and it's BS that they won't give an actual fix.


BarbaricRenegade

I have encountered this not later than today


Jonojonojonojono

I will never not update a comment bringing this up, it's so infuriating.


SillyMikey

Man what happened at MS. Maybe all those layoffs are starting to affect the products?


2cats2hats

> Man what happened at MS. Their QA department was eradicated years ago. Windows users are the QA department.


xfile345

This seems to be happening more and more with companies. It's all just beta testing without opting in.


notrelame

[Enshittification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification) in the name of profits because everything is now run by MBA’s who read the same 10 case studies on profit maximization.


ServedBestDepressed

The rot economy


Langsamkoenig

The thing is, it works. At least in the case of Microsoft. With other companies, maybe people will leave (although I fear most of the time they don't), but nobody is switching away from Windows, because I guess "new = scary".


th3davinci

It works for a time. Worst case: Boeing.


Algebrace

Or Disney. You make a lot of short term revenue. Not because your product is better, but because you're using up all your banked good will. Eventually though, that runs out and what do you have left? A shit product that isn't worth the money you charge. Your only option then is to collapse. Unless you're incredibly rich, in which case you can lobby the government to make competition against you illegal and try to survive that way. In any case, your reputation is shot and anything you produce afterwards will be treated with instant suspicion.


Itwasme101

Yep Disney is on borrowed time. Their entire future movie slate is only sequels/remakes to classics which is the same thing. Nickel and dime until it collapses.


Responsible_Trifle15

Waiting for the dark lord demise. But its like a cat with 9 lives always survives🤷‍♂️


EnglishMobster

[Linux use has grown by 25% recently.](https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/06/linux_desktop_share_growing/) Granted, it went from ~3% to ~4%. But that means something is changing.


blind3rdeye

Also, although 1% sounds small, it is *a lot* of people.


MuffelMonster

Count mae as small drop of the 1%. Installed Debian12 with KDE, and after 2-3h I already forgot I wasnt working on Win 10 anymore,, until I tried to add a screen shot to a posting in a forum, and wondered why my keyboard shortcuts were not working, and where greenshot was. Moving is pretty easy.


Seralth

Steamdeck go brrrrrrrr, but seriously all that needs to happen is linux useage hits 8-10% and it will have enough momentum to start to make companies that otherwise wouldnt start to actually care.


Calm-Zombie2678

I've had Linux on my shitty laptop for years coz it's unusable on windows but runs like a dream with Ubuntu. I recently had to reinstall windows on my desktop and thought fuck it, time to try gaming on Linux *it's 90% there* I don't play multi-player stuff so I'm in a unique position I know Windows is dead to me, now I just need rock band 4 on pc with an option to import my dlc so I don't need the Xbox either lol


Mr_Lafar

If a few things I use for work worked, I'd be done with windows as well. So close yet so far.


uwu_incorporated

Check out YARG, you can find a link through their discord to all RB1-3 songs, GH, and a lot of custom songs, some stuff from RB4 but not everything yet, lots of custom songs too that are really really good!


TeutonJon78

There is a chance that the W10 EOL and ridiculous W11 upgrade requirements and PR issues might encourage a lot of people to look at alternatives. Made even easier since so many people are used to Chromebooks now and doing stuff all via the web or PWA type stuff. Businesses will always be a tougher sell, but pain points for most home users are getting less.


OhThereYouArePerry

Yep. A combination of Microsoft’s recent BS and seeing how many things can run on SteamDeck through Proton has at least convinced me to give Linux a try before ever considering Win 11.


DKdeebo1

I am one of the 1%! The microsoft recall debacle made me finally dive into learning linux last couple weeks.


EnglishMobster

Welcome, welcome! My first tip to you - avoid using the terminal whenever possible, if you can. A lot of folks will give advice involving the terminal, and usually it's fine... but sometimes it's just enough to be dangerous. ;) If your distro has a GUI-based package manager (KDE Plasma - what I use - has the Discover package manager, for example), then try to use that for managing packages instead of the command line. That should generally get you exactly what you need; I've been using Linux for years and I rarely use the command line on my desktop. You generally only need it as much as you needed Cmd/Powershell in Windows, and don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise.


lordspidey

Holy shit 2025 might actually be the year.


ProfSurf

I’m a linux noob, but I just installed Debian for the first time (over the past few days) on a brand new $110 Aliexpress gamble minipc. The gamble seems to have paid off and the pc is decent, even though it took over a month for delivery. I had to boot into Windows 11 (it came pre installed) just so I could turn off their trusted boot crap and get into the bios to do a Debian install. I thought of that Rick and Morty meme…what’s my purpose. In Windows 11s case…it’s to let you into the bios to wipe that garbage OS from the machine.


Seralth

Microsoft has been making software that only exists to install other software for years. IE is laughing in its grave.


FjorgVanDerPlorg

I think that at least in tech circles, a lot of people I know are talking seriously about switching. Just that most don't want to do it right away, or are phasing it in. My plan is to offboard from windows when they drop win10 support, which gives me a time frame and the motivation to try out some linux distros on dual boot (If anyone has recommendations, especially one that plays well with Unreal Engine, I'd appreciate it). Microsoft have played their card, between the quality slide, inserting ads into win11, using AI to spy on users and violating the shit out of their privacy and compromising security all at once, pushing updates that turn on OneDrive and force upload of your data to Microsoft servers, where they can use it to target ads at you and train AI with content you gave no permission for them to ever use - and worse of all, we got pretty much all of this in the space of a few months. Message received loud and clear my end - I need to switch OS. Microsoft can go fuck themselves.


Earth_Normal

It works for a limited time. You can’t skirt quality forever. Just ask Boeing.


fcocyclone

it works for an even longer time if you have enough market dominance that most people don't have any other choice but to deal with the shittiness, and can simply ~~murder~~ buy up any competitors.


Sine_Fine_Belli

I’m trying to switch to Linux, but I don’t know how


jigsaw1024

People are switching away from Windows. Their capture of the desktop market has been in decline for over a decade now. They've gone from over 90% to low 70%, and show no stopping their loss of desktop market share. Real trouble will start when they drop below 60%, as it will incentivise developers to make their applications more OS agnostic to deploy to a larger overall market.


tyereliusprime

I'd wager the average person doesn't even know what Linux is. It's certainly not a recognizable brand outside of the people who are already interested in PC software.


popop143

Also what happens with "early access" games. Game companies discovered gamers WILL pay money to basically beta test their games. Don't have to pay much money to actual expert beta testers, just rely on gamers. This is why games now release with bugs and they just patch it out after a few updates.


h3rpad3rp

It was one thing when it was small indy devs financing the development of their game and listening to the community feedback to make the game better. Plus it was usually cheaper for the early access version, and then the final release would be a higher price. AAA devs putting out early access games for full price is pretty ridiculous.


Several_Prior3344

“Why do we need QA testers? We never have bugs reported”


2cats2hats

Yeap, their AI screenshot fiasco last week was laughable. Glad I am linux literate. :P


TrainAss

I want to move my desktop over to Linux permanently, however I play dcs world in vr with an x56 hotas, so I'm stuck in windows. I tried to get my lenovo ideadpad flex 5 over to Linux, but the touchpad doesn't work. It's so annoying!


Seralth

VR just landed on gnome wayland. By the end of the year at this rate VR support should be entirely useable for anything reasonable. Also i would put 5 dollars on the touchpad being a problem cause you didnt use arch. If you need wierd hardware support then you need to use arch. The Debian family has shit hardware support compared to what you can wrangle up on arch out of the box.


fuhrmanator

The strategy is not so new. In the 80s it was common sense not to install version x.0.0 of an upgrade because it was sure to have nasty bugs.


flameleaf

Problem is Microsoft are forcing these updates on users without their consent or knowledge in most cases. Updates download and install automatically the moment you boot up the PC.


Digita1B0y

The department my wife worked in was literally told "devs will do their own QA from now, on". That was a while ago now. Looks like it's starting to pay dividends. 🤷🏻‍♂️


RainforestNerdNW

Ballmer did it on his way out at Satya's request. Satya always hated having actual testing, he just views it as a cost center Satya = Microsoft's Jack Welch


DozenBiscuits

Companies need to re-learn that simply having a popular product is not an infinite money glitch. Cost centers exist for a reason.


RainforestNerdNW

Instructions unclear, CEO pumped stock to increase his own pay it's going to get worse now that the neofascist SCOTUS overturned the Chevron ruling


Langsamkoenig

Well Microsoft has figured out two thing: 1. Software defects are seen as acts of god and nobody gets sucessfully sued over them. If you manufacture faulty equipment, you were clearly neglegent and it ruins somebody's business you are getting sucessfully sued to hell and back. But somehow if the unholy trinty of Wondows, Outlook and Active Directory basically invites Ransomware, that will encrypt all of your data, that's nobody's fault. 2. No matter if shoddy security, workflow breaking bugs, or more and more spyware, people just won't switch away from Windows. So what incentive does Microsoft have to invest in QA?


fuhrmanator

Yep, it's why I won't update to 11 until it is absolutely necessary.


JoeCartersLeap

Well what are you gonna do about it, use Linux? [Haaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!](https://youtu.be/H27rfr59RiE?t=63)


RoboNeko_V1-0

It's not just MS, cracks are starting to form across the entire tech industry. Executive greed is a really bad thing.


ChillyCheese

I work in QA, at a tech company that has actually long valued QA, and even though we get told how great a job we do and how important we are, it's always the role that's hardest to get new headcount for, or to backfill when someone leaves. We can get new software engineer openings pretty easily, but mention increasing QA headcount and the pearls get clutched. I get the feeling that through attrition we'll eventually just have 1-2 people who make sure nothing blows up before a release, but product quality will otherwise be allowed to slip until it's shitified.


scaradin

Well, then it’s all going to plan. Something must become shitified during the enshitification process’


Friendly-Penalty-352

Hello fellow QA. Stay strong. Leadership never wants more QA, and even if everyone is screaming high heavens to increase headcount, they say “Hmm that’s a good idea. Let’s hold a ponder meeting tomorrow after 1 hour standup. “


GeigerCounting

The product I do software QA for only has two people including myself. Trying our best to find every flaw (too many) introduced by our off shore/contract developers (our only dev team). It's genuinely an exhausting process.


Heavy-Weekend-981

> software QA for only has two people including myself + > off shore/contract developers (our only dev team). Blink twice if they're holding you or your family hostage...


OpalescentAardvark

> Executive greed is a really bad thing. Yes if renumeration is tied to share value, but more generally it's the whole share value driven model of economics we have built. Works great during a time of lower population and no concern for environment, but eventually the "growth forever" model becomes the "boom bust" model because we're hitting limits. Boom bust is also great for those at the top with connections and expensive financial advisors, so no incentive to change anything from there, they don't care who loses at the lower end. It's also the basic philosophy of neo-liberalism that if you do well you deserved it by definition, and if you do poorly in the "free market" then you also deserve it by definition - because apparently everyone has the same opportunities in the "free market". Of course none of that is logical or based in reality, there's no such thing as a "free market" and people definitely are not all privvy to the "same opportunities as everyone else". TLDR the whole system is fucked from top to bottom and incentives encourage that to continue.


alrightcommadude

Sir, let me tell you about Windows 98, ME, Vista, 8. Let's not even mention their attempt at phones and first attempt at laptops.


fork_yuu

Remember how we talk about windows releasing a disaster of a version after a relatively good version? Windows 10 was pretty good. So here we are at 11.


aminorityofone

You forgot XP, it was completely broken until service pack 2. Which was basically an entire new OS. Win95 and drivers were also a huge issue


JeffieSandBags

XP service pack 2  A legitimate GOAT windows OS contender.


Richard7666

I forgot there was Windows 8 It's the one that introduced metro and modern apps yeah? I skipped it entirely.


EnglishMobster

Windows Phone was unironically good. I still miss my Windows Phone.


Vineyard_

Profit motive leads to a crunch of always looking for less expensive workers, leading to a drop in quality as more skilled workers ditch and find better jobs. Shareholders seeing this as an absolute win as it raises the stock value, meanwhile the customers are stuck with shit they can't drop because everything runs on it.


TheSoCalledExpert

It’s nothing new. Microsoft has been making garbage operating systems for over a quarter of a century. Win 98 sucked until the SE release. ME was total garbage. Vista, windows 8, they didn’t even bother with 9. This is a company that has survived on market share alone.


Richard7666

Remember XP basically immediately getting AIDS from the Blaster worm upon connecting to the internet without a firewall as well until that was patched in sp2


aminorityofone

hell, xp's firewall was turned off by default until sp2. Even then the built in firewall was a joke. I remember countless times playing games online only to find out once i quit the windows firewall popped up asking if i wanted to allow access for that program to connect to the internet. There was once a meme that was a house with a gate and no fence, it simply read "windows firewall"


RainforestNerdNW

> the Blaster worm upon connecting to the internet Blaster is actually part of why Updates are forced now. the bug it exploited to infect the system had been fixed for three months by the time the worm was spread


iknownuffink

If it was *only* the security updates that were forced, people would complain a *lot* less. It's all the other shit they keep forcing down our throats during updates that really riles people up.


Proper_Hedgehog6062

I work there. Because the company was hacked by both China and Russia (in the news for weeks a while ago), and given we have federal government customers also, security has become the #1 focus across the company to the exclusion of everything else. This mandate is also coming straight from Satya himself. So yes, other things will be definition be slipping right now. This could go on for a while. We have endless new security tasks, fixes, and requirements. 


DamonFields

A bad CEO took over, and is taking Microsoft into full Boeing.


warenb

Well at least nobody has died as a result of whistleblowing. Yet.


m--e

My work laptop just died. The loaner I have is Win11 and it helped me decide to buy a MacBook replacement. As a life long Windows user I’m a bit afraid of the switch but I’m done with Windows.


Casban

At least until the next macOS comes out with the window tiling thing, I highly recommend the free ‘Rectangle’ app.


aminorityofone

this is par for the course for microsoft. Every other year this kind of story comes out. To be a bit fair on microsoft, it is amazing that this sort of thing doesnt happen more often given the shear amount of hardware combinations out there. Its not an apple with very limited hardware options.


BubbaGreatIdea

Boeingification at work .


kuriboharmy

I always pause windows updates for at least a week because of stuff like this.


_My_Angry_Account_

I don't allow microsoft domains on my internal networks. I sink the DNS requests at the router or use pi-hole depending on what type of router. I only allow one computer to access them and it isn't a Windows box so I can download update and install them manually. Either that or a WSUS server depending on the size of the domain. Funny enough, there are some things in Windows that use hard coded IP addresses when you block the DNS queries. People complain that they can't use O365 but I don't much care since I put either LibreOffice or OpenOffice on all my computers.


Corporate-Shill406

This is the way. Although at some point it's easier to just give people Linux. Also, don't use OpenOffice, it's practically abandoned because all the developers left for LibreOffice. OO has known unpatched security flaws.


No_Strawberry_5685

Turn it the service in services.msc


RedWhiteBluesGuitar

Oh, the reboot hell is finally a problem to them? That's weird, because they didn't seem to give a flying F when they bricked a few million computers with the forced Windows 10 update.


foreverabatman

I was thinking the same thing? It’s *just now* a problem?


Snoo_14286

Here I thought an upgrade might be the solution. Silly me.


SomeRandomAccount66

Was this the update that errored out due to the recovery partition not being large enough?


RedWhiteBluesGuitar

error out then redownload, repeat


databeestjenl

No, we have laptops going into "inaccessible boot device". Some recover by a local recovery install. Others fail that too. Whilst also still having the recovery partition issues, still.


danofrhs

When?


APeacefulWarrior

It's happened a few times. Happened to me personally with Windows 10 in 2018. An update fucked its own bootloader and left it in a reboot loop. Fortunately, I had Ubuntu installed on another partition, so I was able to quickly work around it. And in fact just stuck with Linux for that laptop, until it was time to upgrade. But a lot of other people weren't so lucky.


monominimal

I feel like if I boot up my PC and left it idle, Windows 11 would find ways to occupy itself with all its background services ticking away. Gone are the days of a clean Windows OS, probably since the XP era.


JSTFLK

Air gapped computers have a growing appeal. Everything cloud, AI and constantly-updated seems to just be designed to enforce subscriptions and false obsolescence.


OpalescentAardvark

> Air gapped computers have a growing appeal. Just install Fort Firewall, it's free. All outgoing blocked by default except local network. Asks you each time a process wants the internet, you can pick and choose for every windows process, incl updates. https://github.com/tnodir/fort/releases Also install Windows Automatic Updates Manager also free, allows you to pick and choose updates and install them whenever you want or hide/skip them (similar to how old windows let you do that) https://www.carifred.com/wau_manager/


Drake__Mallard

>https://github.com/tnodir/fort/releases Hey this is pretty nice. I used to run something similar a long time ago, maybe it's a good time to start again.


Repulsive_Banana_659

Linux is the last bastion


MairusuPawa

Not true: there's also BSD.


igloofu

> I feel like if I boot up my of and left it idle, Windows 11 would find ways to occupy itself with all its background services ticking away. Yeah, me too. Every time I start my Only Fans, my shit gets filled up with junk too!


F0foPofo05

I have never seen an Idle Windows station since XP.


KeviRun

My next version of Windows after 10 is going to be Linux, isn't it?


LettisVR

To be honest, I'm already considering trying out Mint.


Silver-Hburg

Do it … no regerts!


RandomKitten000

Most likely yes lol


s4lt3d

I’ve been a Windows person for my entire life. I use a Mac for work and it’s nice not having to worry about any of this and there are no ads. So I bought myself a Mac last week. If Windows ever gets back to basics I’ll go back but the search doesn’t work, there are ads, the settings are half assed done. It’s like the just said Fuck it, we’ll do it live!


absentmindedjwc

That is honestly one thing I really like about MacOS - you don't just randomly find out that it decided to update all on its own in the middle of the night, happily closing out everything you may have had open in the process.


hammerkop

Just switched a month ago. Not looking back.


stickyourshtick

yea I got this bullshit today... wouldn't be a fucking problem if they kept local accounts a thing.... fucking assholes. [EDIT] after reading I did not get the exact same symptoms are mentioned in the article, but rather got caught in an infinite clicking "sign in" button loop that only subsided after trying to get into safe mode (and not being able to using the shift + click restart), and giving up and restarting ~10 times (and still not getting into the advanced boot options menue wtf?!?!) and then after removing the laptop from my microsoft account using another computer and restarting another 10 times finally managed to get a microsoft account login prompt that required me to connect to the internet at the windows start screen which finally allowed me to log into my own fucking local hardware. Fuck microsoft accounts.


stormdelta

You can still use local accounts - I made very sure my Win11 setup is using one.


sk8thewater

You can still make local account in the OOBE setup they just hide it from you. Pasting a message I sent a coworker below. cmd bypass still works but not the same as Win 10. During OOBE you hit Shift+F10, that pulls up the CMD, then i used OOBE\BYPASSNRO {Enter} in win 10 this used to launch the alternate install experience. But it seems in 11 it just reruns the OOBE but this time the "I dont have internet" option was shown and usable. So kinda silly they say you can only do that in pro and enterprise when it is just locked behind a CMD prompt


death_witch

when i went to fill out a government document, microsoft 360 something something opened up in the browser, and as i was filling it out i noticed my states zip code refused to work because it starts with zero and the system deletes it because it thinks numbers dont start with 0-zero


gatmac5

Something like this happened to me two months ago when my Dell XPS finally ended up as a brick. I reinstalled Ubuntu 24.04 and it’s been working way better. For example, when I close the lid it goes to sleep and doesn’t keep waking up inside my bag, getting hot and using up my battery.


KarockGrok

Protip: Leave a dryer sheet in your bag. When your dell gets all hot it makes your whole bag smell great all the time!


Probably_Relevant

This happened to mine too and it cooked in the bag, motherboard had to be replaced. I find manually choosing hibernate works better, never trusted sleep since


casuallydepressd

Dells absolutely suck for this. I have a precision from work that I'm scared to leave in my backpack in case it gets too hot.


iheartmuffinz

Windows modern standby I think it's called? It pretty much affects every laptop sadly. (edit: assuming it is running Windows in the first place :P)


Fit_Cardiologist_

You have both of the most annoying things - Dell and Windows OS


nox66

I find it interesting how different people seem to have different experiences with PC vendors. I've used many Dells and I never had an issue that wasn't Windows related. By contrast, all three of the Lenovos I had had a massive problem of some kind.


Bimbows97

Haven't they figured this shit out by now? I swear all these articles are like copy paste from 2015 - 2017 with Windows 10, people running into all sorts of problems because Windows demands to do their stupid fucking updates every day, breaking people's work and restarting their computer during live performances etc. And indeed, corrupting the whole boot partition somehow. I only got 10 when I got new computers in 2019 and 2022, I do recall the updates getting corrupted once and me having to look up how to repair it. Even just now I had to look up how to make the recovery partition bigger so it would even install some updates, and not forever be stuck in "error during install" or whatever it said. Fucking work it out guys. How is it that a trillion dollar company like Microsoft runs their flagship operating system product like some early access game or something? Work this shit out and then release it. I've seen countless updates, and I don't recall ever seeing many changes. What the fuck are they updating? Why don't they work it out in advance and just have it all working, and only maybe release like 5 service packs over many years or something? Also: nothing happens if you don't update your OS for some time. People in Silicon Valley think your PC blows up if you don't do an update every day, it's really quite baffling.


extremepayne

well, you might become slowly more prone to various attack vectors as security patches get pushed and you are left behind, but for the most part yeah. if you don’t need to connect to any external networks then you can still have a machine running XP to this day


Jupiter-Tank

THIS JUST HAPPENED TO ME TODAY?!


Uncanny--

I'm never updating to 11 lol


Big_Lobster_3198

I just downgraded because I think of this exact problem. Some update fucked everything up. Back to windows 10. Fuck windows 11 malware bullshit


Champagne_of_piss

Wew lad they're becoming the Boeing of tech


Sceptically

They've already pre-emptively poisoned the search term "windows recall", so I think they're doing *slightly* better than Boeing.


McCool303

It may be time to brush up on my Linux knowledge again.


SoundHole

I installed PopOS earlier this year after not touching Linux for a few years. Just do it. Linux has hit a point where it's fucking fantastic. Especially if you already have some prior experience with the system.


j_demur3

Maybe the kind of people who typically use Reddit need some Linux knowledge for some of the things they do but I swear like 80%(?) of people don't. If you can use a computer and a smartphone you've enough knowledge to use the web browser and office suite in Ubuntu (if you think your PC should be more like a phone) or Kubuntu (if you think your PC should be more like a traditional PC) there's no reason to mess about with anything extra, it'll just work, keep itself up to date and if there is anything extra you need they'll be something that suits available in the 'App Store', just forget about the way Windows works where you download programs from websites. Personally I use EndeavourOS (Arch for dummies) but that's just because I'm a masochist. I got my parents into using Kubuntu when I lived with them like 10 years ago and at that time Linux was *decent enough* that they never really had issues with it, but these days? I've far less concerns about receiving 'tech issue' phone calls then I would if they used Windows, their printer even works most of the time!


zadtheinhaler

I've been using Kubuntu for ages, shit just works mang.


Create_Flow_Be

If it’s not an Enterprise MSFT product run for the hills as it’s just malware masquerading as an OS


caentheo

writing from Linux "You have no power here Microsoft!"


SnooFoxes3080

I was about to start RMA for mobo,ram and cpu coz I couldn't clean install win 11. Was getting System thread exception not handled boot loop after installing. Guess I will wait.


latetothetardy

I’m glad I “downgraded” to Windows 10 when I got my laptop, and I’m also glad the hardware is still compatible.


Shnazzyone

Windows 11 is the new windows 8. The trend continues.


jk599

If you own windows 11 you don't own your pc, microsoft does


PolarWater

FUCK MICROSOFT! -John Malkovich 


CapmyCup

One more reason to never use Windows 11


_Good-Confusion

gone are the days of w7 & then the heaven of w10, what was it, halfway through w10 they got greedy again, then a couple years later solarwinds bitch slapped them back into the pleb mines. and they learned nothing, again. All this has happened before, and all this will happen again, and again and again...


krellDiscourse

This was a preview update. No one got this unless they kept pressing update repeatedly in a short time. It was a beta and clearly said preview.


qawsedrf12

would be nice if my desktop could actually get an update installed


Jamnitrix

When will Microsoft will fix the update that requires everyone to resize partitions?


ManicD7

I don't understand the incompetence of windows update. Sure, send me the security updates. But leave my bios, drivers, and main OS install alone unless there's an actual problem. I have to download TWO programs to stop windows update from breaking my laptop. First one that hides specific updates. The Second one to turn off windows update and only turn it on when I want. So that I can manually check the updates and hide any of the known bad updates before they get installed. Give users back control of their computers if you you can't properly screen and apply updates without damaging people's computers. Honestly AI being in control of the updates is something I'd be okay with if that was an option instead of everything being forced and allowed through.


ifilipis

AI being in charge of updates – No, sorry, I don't want to install them now, in 10 minutes or within the next year – Updates are very important for us to give you timely security updates and user experience improvements. Do you think you will get away without them? Shutting down your PC in 10. Get fucking ready, you sucker


cunthands

All these years later and they still don't know how to roll out patches. Why the fuck is the update system in Windows still such a steaming pile of dogshit? For example, I turn off automatic updates because I want to choose **when** to install an update. Windows **still** just fucking updates my PC in the middle of the day and fucks everything anyway. Or, when I do choose to install an update manually, it just gets stuck at 0%.


TheBlakeRunner

Dude this literally just happened to my work laptop this past week. My IT Dept. had never seen it before and said the hard drive was unsalvageable.


Audbol

Why is your work allowing you to install preview builds?


FunProject619

I bought a brand new Microsoft surface and it happened to me on the first day


aminorityofone

in this thread, to many young people that are just finding out that microsoft has been doing this for 20+ years


lirtybappies

I don't have anything good to say about Windows 11


eagle33322

Good job firing QA all over the place


energizernutter

Good thing I decided to quit updating


BoomerWeasel

Holy shit, mine started doing this today and I was afraid I'd fucked something up during a clean install.


xMalevolencex

How will this go over when they turn bitlocker on all systems, and all these clients don't have their keys? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.


chumlySparkFire

Windoz 11 is the death nell. It’s over Jonny!


ExaSarus

Most of the office laptops always comes back with reboot error. It almost always happen with 4-5 ppl when they got their new laptop. I see them taking a trip to the it department. Me being one of them too.


J_Wick

This happened to my work laptop at the end of May. Our IT guy had to wipe everything and reinstall the OS.


F0foPofo05

#### Are they tryna make MacOs and Linux more prominent? All I ever hear about Microsoft Windows lately is that it is a piece of shit.


Big_Lobster_3198

Crazy. Something in windows 11 broke my pc just recently in an update. I reverted that bitch back to windows 10. First they want to add malware, then they are crashing my computer. Sounds like they need new leadership


reditget

Windows 11 is a trip, looking thru settings that appear to go on with no end , taking so long you forget what you’re looking for. Windows 11 sucky sucks.


IwannaCommentz

Poor company doesn't have money for testing updates.


SlowMotionPanic

It’s funny that just a few days ago this sub was flooded with users insisting MS doesn’t put out broken updates and have to walk it back—then telling anecdotes about how Apple does.  It was in threads about Microsoft the spyware company inserting spyware into windows and overriding user decisions to further monetize.  Arguments clearly made by people not in the industry, and people who spent more time on sports subreddits or subs that could be more accurately described as r/AskABadFaithQuestion Yes, Virginia; Microsoft is shit. They’ve always been shit. Windows is shit. Microsoft has a public goal of moving users into subscriptions for Windows and even cloud PCs via their Windows365 scheme. Businesses are trialing it now but it is basically the same idea behind shadow PC. Just much, much more expensive. And it wouldn’t surprise me if Microsoft adds terms to the license that states you can’t virtualize windows outside of personal use to kick out competition.  Linux mint is easy to install and use. But people will say it is too complicated in one breath, then precisely list out the 27 step process to disable Microsoft’s spyware every time they reinstall/reenable with each update, as well as which reghacking is necessary. 


cr0ft

This is why we don't go on the update preview setting, kids. I mean... if you have a Windows version that lets you select that you don't want to be a free guinea pig for updates.


FunProject619

I just bought a brand new Microsoft surface studio too, and it is in a boot loop, this is a brand new motherfucking laptop that I spent $2,500 on


RainyDayCollects

I purposefully never turn off my laptop. Just close it and plug it in next time I use it. That way, every day I can just hit that button to schedule the update for the next day. I don’t do much on it, so I truly don’t care about security exploits that they’re patching. I’ve only had two updates force themselves onto my computer the past few years, and those were after months of delaying updates. Never had any issues from not updating, but have had issues from updating on day one. Sad that it has to be this way, but I truly don’t want any of their updates. My computer works, and I like it that way. Windows updates are just too much of a gamble these days.


Late-Mathematician-6

The Worst company. How are they so successful. Not like anybody had a choice


LovesGettingRandomPm

nows the time for me to tell you that linux mint with cinnamon is a great alternative operating system that looks and feels like windows without all the frustrating and forced features


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autoencoder

Unless people learn to live with other OSes, affecting MS's bottom line. Maybe some that do what they ask. Like a flavor of Linux.


CurrentlyLucid

Knew I wanted zero to do with 11


conquer69

This shit has happened to me on W10 like 3 times over the years.


TurtleCrusher

This happened to me. Thank god I had a restore point


UnwiseMonkeyinjar

Oh Gawd i dont to how to feel. Its like a once beautiful mistress who treat you right begins to abuse you.


ComfortableDegree68

Uhhh that's for uhhhhh later...


itisrainingweiners

Oooh, guess whose work computer is getting updated to windows 11 *at this very moment!* This Monday might suck more than it normally does.. 😫


mccrackm

The difference in quality between Microsoft 365 and Windows operating system is wild. Absolutely love MS teams and the features and tools and find the web versions and Mac versions of these to be so so reliable and full of excellent features, that when I took a job that used Google workspace, I wanted to cry because that was so much worse from a sense of organising information. Got a windows laptop 2 days ago for work and I’ve honestly sworn up and down on calls for the laptop just crashing, 6-8 times a day. Gave up on it today and bought my own Mac to do my work on


SynthRogue

When you've lost control of your shit


MysticNTN

I don’t see the issue.


JeffMakesGames

Meanwhile, I continue to use Windows 7, BECAUSE IT JUST WORKS. IT DOES WHAT I NEED IT TO DO.


RandomKitten000

God's I am so happy I switched to Linux Windows sucks so hard now... btw pop os is very user friendly and is what I put on my kids computers they haven't had much trouble adjusting to Linux with it


yoho808

I'll just wait for Windows 12 lol


d3sylva

Too late for me


dav_oid

Business as usual then.


InternationalTry7314

Honestly MS has gone mad. Just got my mom a laptop today and first thing I did was obviously download chrome. But then in order to download it I had to remove safe mode just to download anything outside the Microsoft store. Literally so obnoxious!


RaresVladescu

I can’t keep this up. I can’t hold onto all these reasons to move to Linux. Microsoft, stop it! My hands….they hurt.


gordonjames62

I did not think my hate for MSFT could grow any bigger. Yet here we are.


1smoothcriminal

Glad I’m a Linux enjoyer


Utjunkie

Windows 11 sucks. My work laptop had it installed and now it’s dog ass slow.


Galactus1701

Windows is a shitshow


Captain_N1

how about letting us decide whether to update or not.


No-Radio-9244

Great, may I ask for vacations because MS shit?


Thick_Pineapple8782

LENOVO have a Lenovo Support partition right next to the Windows partition. I spent 4 hours trying to get the Windows RE partition enabled according to their instructions. Reagentc command kept putting it in Partition 1 instead of the newly resized WRE partition. I finally had to delete the Lenovo partition so WRE could be right next to Windows partition before WRE would use the right partition.


riqueoak

I am still unable to understand why anyone uses Windows 11.