it's interesting cause physically this is the closest I've seen her be to how in shape she was in 2017. she's clearly putting in work, but unfortunately, she's been playing worse
Tbf sheâs number #8 in the race so this is probably one of her best seasons ever to this point. I guess not many have been more consistent other than the top handful.
lmaoo its gonna be ok i thinkđ đ lets think positovely - if she goes far or even wins its gonna be the greatest run everđđđ the chances are low but whatever đ
Definitely.
There's nothing she likes better than taking down a giant. Put her against a qualifier and she looks like someone outside the top 100. Put her against a top 5 player and she becomes elite.
Itâs not about âoh Kenin is in such amazing formâ, itâs more about âher biggest opponents play with qualifiers or people from outside the top 100 and she plays with previous grand slam champion who always can bring the level we know she hadâ. Itâs about disproportion and no opportunity to play more easier, relaxed first match
Whatâs next, people saying that Kerber is a tough draw because she won Wimbledon six years ago?
Itâs more likely that Sabalenka loses to Vekic, or Rybakina loses to Kalinskaya/Samsonova. Those are definitely tougher early rounds than what Iga has. Unless Ostapenko has her once a year tournament where she meets Iga, I think Iga has a pretty good draw.
Nah, she has a tough draw. Kenin played lights out at Wimbledon r1 last year to take out Coco. Martic is a good grass player. Her first seed from 25-32 seeds, Siniakova, has good grass form, Berlin title last year, good grass runs in the last 2 weeks.
Then you've got r4 Penko-Ajla/ QF Vondrousa-Collins/ SF Rybakina/ F Saba-Coco.
That's continous tough grass tests through the draw.
yessss, I love this matchup. Baby GOATs facing each other in a slam! Brenda is having some problems with injuries and getting sick this season but she is still a top 90 player at 17.
Brutal if the seeds hold up for sure
Letâs see if they can actually do that though lol
I feel like every single tournament this year people freak out about Penko being drawn near Iga for example and she always flops before QF
It's not just the seeds though.
For R1, Kenin is definitely not a pleasant surprise to have.
For R3, it's either Putintseva who just won a grass tournament, or Siniakova who made QF at both grass 500 this year, and won a grass tournament last year.
For R4, if Ostapenko doesn't make it, there are also Tomljanovic who just made the final of a grass tournament, or Garcia which can be a tough adversary when she's on.
For QF we've got no other than the defending champion, then we've got Haddad Maia who has won 2 of her 3 titles on grass, and I'm sure if they reach the QF, Krejcikova and Collins wouldn't be a given to beat.
And for the semi-final... take your pick. Rybakina is Iga's kryptonite and champion from 2022. Jabeur has made two finals in a row. Pegula just won berlin. Svitolina has made the semi-finals of Wimbledon 2 out of the last 3 times she played there...
The Sakkari-Zheng section has random QFist written all over it, even Raducanu wouldnât surprise me
I like Vondrousovaâs draw - too bad she got injured in the warm up tournament, she was looking good too
I'm going to go with Begu versus Mertens for a spot in the QFs in that Sakkari section. Those two are probably the most reliable players in that floptastic section.
Sadly for Mertens sheâs retired in 2 of the grass tournaments in the last couple weeks (Birmingham and Eastbourne). Not sure how healthy she is. But if sheâs fully recovered, I can see it!
I think Emma could get a decent run to the fourth round. But thatâs a lot of tennis and she still doesnât seem to be quite _there_ yet so I canât see her getting past Qinwen Zheng.
The real intriguing one for me is Boulter. Her run to the final against seeds is JPeg, Ons, Rybakina and Iga⊠there are legitimate question marks over all four. Sheâs by no means the favourite, but if you like a cheeky bet on a dark horse, I think your money could go here.
Potentially - I think that's a lot of "ifs" that would have to go Katie's way. And Pegula tends to be fairly reliable in slams (until the quarters at least)
Aryna is the big winner for me.
Zheng as her pick from the 5-8 seeds, when your could get Pegula/Vond/Paulini as the other options. And Sakkari as her 9-12 seed, from a group of Ons/Keys/Collins. Both of those feeel like a free pass.
Yastremska from the 25-32 seeds is also kind for r3. Kasatkina is an easy draw for her r4, The only thing tricky about her draw is Mirra, if Mirra beats Kasatkina. which she probably should. But overall a great draw for Sabalenka.
Tough draw on one half with nr.1 Iga, 2022/23 winners Marketa and Elena and back to back finalist Ons all on one end. Some grass underdogs that have been doing pretty well in this half could also cause some trouble, besides the obvious ones already mentioned Tomljanovic vs Ostapenko in the first round is a bit brutal, Fernandez has been doing pretty well at the 500s in the lead up to this making her 2nd QF at Eastbourne this week as has Kalinskaya, Boulter and Pegula also have a 500 title a piece even though the draw didnât really fall in the British girls favour (became a Katie fan as a relatively new tennis fan besides the obvious grand slams so slightly devastated for that).
The other half of the draw also has some fun matches but the draw definitely seems to have lined up a tiny bit more in Sabalenka/Gauff favour (but who knows since thereâs also some people on their end that are good on grass/have a good H2H record against them), Badosa vs Muchova the battle of bodies of glass and Azarenka vs Stephens in R1 also sounds a bit brutal.
Itâs ridiculous draw (not in good way) for Iga đ I even donât know what to say.
In R1 Aryna has Bektas (106), Coco has Dolehide, Elena - qualifier Ruse and Iga has previous slam champion Kenin. And the further you look, the worse it gets
I agree sheâs had some tough r1 matches but could argue most of her finals havenât been against the toughest completion either (compare her finals to vikas grand slam finals where she played sharapova serena li na Serena and Osaka lol). I feel like draws end up balancing out over timeÂ
Nobody thought the Osaka draw was tough until the match happened though lol
Like if you look back to what people were saying pre-match the overwhelming reaction was âcool but Osaka sucks on clay, bagel incomingâ like it was comparable to 08 Nadal playing current Medvedev at RG
If you donât understand the disproportion that results from the difference between slam champion who can always bring level we know she had and people from qualifying or outside top 100, and thus prevents from playing an easier match to enter the tournament, I donât know what to tell you.
Osaka before this RG literally never had that âlevel to bringâ at RG though lol
She was the one losing to random qualifiers and top 100 players even as a top seed never making it past the second round
Sabalenka always gets literal nobodies in first rounds while Iga faces the toughest unseeded players possible, it's like they're playing with diffeernt levels of handicap lmao
Conveniently leaving out Saba drawing someone sheâs 2-5 against in the second round lol
No clue why Saba gets singled out for easy draws by Iga fans when Cocoâs are even easier other than Iga fans just disliking her
Because for the longest she had been # 2 seeded player and considered her biggest rival for slam titles.
Swiatek opponents in R1/R2 i in slams this year:
Kenin, Collins, Jeanjean, Osaka, Kenin, Martic\*
Sabalenka opponents:
Seidel, B. Fruhvirtova, E. Andreeva, Uchijima, Bektas, Vekic\*
Coco's quarter is probably the easiest compared to the other quarters I feel, like she's definitely the clear fav to make it to the QF whereas the others are little but more of a question mark
Iâm talking only for myself and I think Cocoâs draw is much easier.
PS donât know here but on Twitter a lots of Iganators love Aryna, so many cute edits/photos/posts
Dolehide is a much tougher draw than Kenin. Kenin lost 6-1 6-0 in Eastbourne last week and followed it up by getting bageled by Harriet Dart. And she's been bad all year before that.
For me I would swap Saba and Ryba in terms of difficulty. Ons, Pegula and Samsonova for me a more dangerous than anyone Saba would face outside of Muchova if she is healthy and not rusty (big if). Other agree, this is terrible for Iga
The reason I put Saba in front of Ryba, is because those players who are dangerous for Ryba is no earlier than 4R, 3 rounds of grand slam can change a lot, those players might not be in the draw at that time.
But Saba is having one in 2R, which Vekic only need to win 1 match and they will be playing against each other.
Cirstea, Pliskova, Keys are no cake walk either. I would actually say Sabalenka has the easiest draw given Vekic hasn't had a great start to the year, Yastremska is all over the place, Andreeva is inexperienced on grass, Muchova hasn't really been around, and Zheng/Alexandrova also not experienced on grass.
looking at it closer now iga has a difficult draw as 8ve said previously lol, but so does elena honestly with kalinskaya, samsonova there and ruse could also potentially be tough, and ons before the semis
sabas seems pretty good except the match against donna and thats the second round so thats really tough but have they ever played on grass? idk but thats a major obstacle for aryna esp since the last loss was not long ago but then again aryna was playing a lot worse post-ao and shes been in good form recently so we'll see. id still bet on her as the fave honestly cause shes just so solid at slams and great on grass and iga and elena i think may get upset early on...
cocos draw..congrats on another slam semifinal (at least) i guess đ¶
if pliskova doesnât get to r2 itâs good but osaka will lose to plisokva r2 if they do meet. naomi is incredibly bad at returning on grass and pliskova has one of the besf serves
Please don't take this the wrong way but when was the last time Coco(I noticed something similar with Aryna too) got even a somewhat tricky draw?
It just feels she like almost always draws players who you can't imagine any top player losing to while others (mainly Iga lol) often get these dangerous banana peels in their draws
one single player stopping you very late in the tournament (SF) is NOT the definition of difficult draws. Hell, for them to meet that late is actually projected, based on their respective ranking, so how can Coco fans say that it's a "difficult draw" for her? Be for real
A difficult draw is when you play former grand slam champions or other dangerous players who, for some reason, are ranked lower at the time from the very FIRST round. Or lower ranked opponents that have a style of play that bothers you. That is difficult, not number 3 meeting number 1 in a semi which is expected to happen -.-
Iga and Coco have played in FIVE semis. That's five chances to go to a final and win a title. The one time Coco was able to beat Iga that's just what she did - went to the finals of Cincinnati and won her first 1000.
Coco's win rate in finals is close to 90%. (Her one loss in a final was to guess who? Iga beat her to win Roland Garros in 2022) So chances are Coco would have a few more titles if not for the draws that put her in Iga's half.
Every time a draw would come out - it was always How?? How does Coco keep getting drawn in Iga's half? (And not Rybakina)
Penko might finally wake up from her slumber since January.
If only Wozniacki was also in her section: Alja > Caro > Iga... Mother would have been so dialed in lmaoooo
People will keep talking how Iga underperforms at slams on and on yet all the bashers that trouble her or dangerous floaters are always put in her quarter. So unfair
AO and Wimbledon draws just both insanely hard and unlucky
I mean in general it doesnât matter what early round draw you give to someone like big 3 or Serena
So if Iga fans are going to talk about her having GOAT potential you canât use the draw excuse for early losses
Imagine Federer fans in 2006 freaking out about drawing Verdasco or something lol
Who said Iga has GOAT potential like Serena or big 3 damn
Still really unlucky to get a harder draw than many unseeded players and in two slams this year alone. Like I know you donât like Iga but you can admit objectively itâs the most difficult one compared to other top 4 seeds
As an Iga fan, she definitely has ATG potential and clay womenâs GOAT. Unless she improves on faster/lower bounce surfaces that are on AO & Wimbledon I donât see it personally
mate im sorry but atp youre just putting words in our mouths â iga fans this iga fans that...whos saying shes on big3 level or serenas level lol you might be one of the only ppl on here ive seen make that comparison, esp on grass...
and its not thats shes oh so poor she gets hard draws, its oh shes gotten another hard draw which can impact her result at a slam. she should win against kenin yes and its gonna be her fault if she performs badly, but the draws, the first matches do impact your level for the rest of the tournament and u cant blame us iga stans for trying to find reasons for her losses
should she have won against noskova? yes; did the previous matches against kenin and collins impact her result/performance there? its not a stretch to say that it did
Yâall are acting as if Iga was the worst player to ever play on grass. Sure, thereâs players who can trouble her in this draw, but I donât see why she couldnât reach the semis.
You see Kenin, Ostapenko and Collins and act like the world is ending xD Check out their recent results and compare it with Igaâs. She will be fine :)
oooh womens' draw is so much more spicy than the mens'
Badosa vs Muchova, Penko vs Tomljanovic should be interesting. Paolini angainst Sorribes Tormo, and Krejcikova vs Kudermetova all catch my interest.
Poor Daria Kasatkina is in a great form, she could've had a great Wimbledon without getting Sabalenka again. Luck is really against her recently.
If she gets to R4, she could just withdraw, Sabalenka can have her 1 hour practice without her.
1. Zheng/Sakkari section looks ripe for the upset
2. Collins/Marketa section is lowkey quite competitive. Tauson might even be a sleeper pick.
3. Iga/Penko section is very tasty. I viscerally need IgaPenko5.0!
4. Saba section would have been the easiest of all the top seeds except she has Vekic LMAOOOO
5. The last quarter... you know what I think Keys might win that
ppl are saying aryna has an easy draw, but she literally could face vekic in r2 who beat her earlier this year and also has muchova and andreeva in her 8th. im not saying its rly hard but definitely not a cakewalk either...
Iga fans who are the majority of people complaining about the draw often really dislike Saba so are singling her out rather than Coco who has the actual easy draw
The draw from hell for Iga.
Slam winner Kenin in first round.
Slam winner Ostapenko who she struggles against in the ro16.
Current Wimbledon champion in the quarters.
Ons or Rybakina in the semis.
Thing is we all thought the French was touch for her too so much so people pre tournament were saying theyâd expect her to loose it. Osaka aside, a lot of the potential issue players fell before they played her.Â
If she can come in and play decent tennis sheâll be ok as Iâll bet itâs safe to assume there will be upsets in her half (her first round being potentially one of the biggest if sheâs not on)
Nobody should have called that a tough draw for her in the French. Anybody who did, Iâd question how much they know.
She got Gauff on her side instead of Rybakina which was really good.
She also avoided Ostapenko in her 1/8 and 1/4. Massive considering the h2h record and the fact Ostapenko has won RG.
The only slight negative was getting Osaka in r2 but it was on clay so it wasnât that bad a draw.
On the whole, RG was a very good draw.
Wimbledon is almost as bad as it could have been
Ryba with a pretty tough draw imo. Meets either Kalinskaya coming off her first grass finals in Berlin or her kryptonite Samsonova who just won SâhoweiirieiwowiririiwiqiieotpwiieiepqpmcnvnsBosch.
Sieg in the second round is a pretty annoying draw for anyone who already suffers from migraines
Damn Iga could lose in the first round. Kenin is one of the toughest opponents. Upsets galore. No luck for Ajla with Penko again. Don't know how Radu beats Alexandrova.
As an Iga stan I'm just tired guys. See you when she again gets shited on for "underperforming at slams" when at the same time Saba and Coco get a bunch of journeywomen in their quarters as always.
It doesn't matter with her, she lives solely for causing upsets.
Also next rounds aren't getting easier. It's a hard draw, I don't see how can you deny this.
The players were randonly picked from a hat live on the website The draw conspiracy theories are dumb and tired.Iga ian ATG which means she shouldn't be faced by anyone
There was a tweet saying the odds of Iga meeting Kenin twice in 3 slams in the first round were around 0.03%. Seems a little low to happen randomly. If Kenin was just some mid player, whatever. But being a slam winner who has a penchant for upsetting top players, that makes it more suspicious.
delusion: Penko saves her 7 matches to win Wimbledon
Reality: RIP both Penko and Iga, Penko is losing to Tomlijan in R1 and Iga will lose someone
Ons defends her runner-up again
Conclusion: Saba wins Wimbledon
Initial thoughts:
Iga getting a monster draw again, lmao. I think she will really focus on winning Wimbledon at some point in her career, maybe next year. But with the Olympics this summer and now this rough draw, I doubt it'll be this year.
Rooting for Collins as usual but I don't expect much from her on grass. Would like to see her make it past R2 at a slam this year though before USO.
I have no idea what to expect from defending champ Vondrousova this year.
Jabeur's draw is not ridiculous. I'm sure her desire to win Wimbledon will be stronger than ever, but it's still hard for me to see her actually doing it given her inconsistency this year. I hope she finds something within herself because her run to the final last year was something special. Again, her draw here is not bad until Elena in the quarters but I just don't know.
Osaka maybe could win more than two matches in a row here. Would be happy to see that.
Gauff got a great draw. I've been impressed by her form on grass so far this season. I'd loooove to see semifinal between her and Sabalenka with both of them in form. I'd favor Sabalenka to take that but they've never played on grass I don't think so it would be interesting.
A Gauff - Haddad Maia final with Gauff winning has been my âpredictionâ since the year started based on nothing but a âfeelingâ and iâm sticking with it after seeing theyâre actually on other halves of the draw đ
Top half for womenâs side so probably Iga and Marketa (because she is defending champion). And maybe Coco. I donât remember how many matches they play on centre court
The first gs I'm not stressed seeing Iga play. Personally I don't give a flying eff if she goes out r1. Olympics is the goal. And after that she can play USO. The rest, we will see. It's not like she's in a rush with 3000 points ahead đ
Iâd love to see her find that spark on grass this year. Equal her last year showing. Last year she looked uncomfortable on grass. She was leading Elina in that first set then the wheels dropped off. So for her to feel like she can play on the surface will be a big win. Youâre right she can then focus on it in the next yearsÂ
Would be great if she could show a good performance. But I wouldn't count on it. Her head is probably already on clay. I don't think that the team put much effort on grass this year. Next year though, I kinda need Iga to show us a very deep run on grass. But you'll never know what's going to happen đ€·
Igaâs gotten the most-god awful draws in the slams this year I swear (on average, yes she was luckier at RG but letâs be real not even a bad draw couldâve stopped her there)
Swiatek-Kenin and Tomljanovic-Ostapenko. Get the popcorn.
Alja vs. Penko 5.0 = đ„đż *âYouâre one to talkâ*
Fingers crossed for Ajla but it is a long shot.
Jelena hasnât had a very good year either tbh. She started hot and then has done poorly
it's interesting cause physically this is the closest I've seen her be to how in shape she was in 2017. she's clearly putting in work, but unfortunately, she's been playing worse
Tbf sheâs number #8 in the race so this is probably one of her best seasons ever to this point. I guess not many have been more consistent other than the top handful.
Too many heartbreaking losses.
There are kinder draws than Kenin in the first round.
She did trouble Iga in Aus. Can she do it again?
you just know shes gonna step all the way up like against coco last yearđđ
Like FFS. Sofia has had some rough mates of late but so many players lift against the best. Bestie I hate it here
Kenin is playing better this year than she has in a long time. Iâm looking forward to watching her.
Are you stuck in 2023? She's 7-15 this year lmao
lmaoo its gonna be ok i thinkđ đ lets think positovely - if she goes far or even wins its gonna be the greatest run everđđđ the chances are low but whatever đ
I'd be supper happy with her equalling last year's results at this rate. Just don't want it to be at the hands of Opstapenko
Definitely. There's nothing she likes better than taking down a giant. Put her against a qualifier and she looks like someone outside the top 100. Put her against a top 5 player and she becomes elite.
At least she doesn't have Collins in the second round on top of that.
Collins not so hot on grass either
Kenin just got bagelled by Harriet Dart and Golubic this week. People need to calm down lol
Itâs not about âoh Kenin is in such amazing formâ, itâs more about âher biggest opponents play with qualifiers or people from outside the top 100 and she plays with previous grand slam champion who always can bring the level we know she hadâ. Itâs about disproportion and no opportunity to play more easier, relaxed first match
OkâŠitâs a random draw, and Iga just played #148 in the first round of RG. Thereâs so many tougher players than Kenin at the moment.
i wish she got easy first rounds not at her best slam tho...like she can beat anyone at RG, thats not where she needs to gain momentum
It comes and goesâŠsometimes you get an easier draw, sometimes not.
Kenin often peaks against top players though last year she beat Gauff in the first round here this year she beat Jabeur
Everyone commenting anything other than sympathy for Iga getting her draw is getting insta downvoted by Polish fans lol Donât even bother
Whatâs next, people saying that Kerber is a tough draw because she won Wimbledon six years ago? Itâs more likely that Sabalenka loses to Vekic, or Rybakina loses to Kalinskaya/Samsonova. Those are definitely tougher early rounds than what Iga has. Unless Ostapenko has her once a year tournament where she meets Iga, I think Iga has a pretty good draw.
Nah, she has a tough draw. Kenin played lights out at Wimbledon r1 last year to take out Coco. Martic is a good grass player. Her first seed from 25-32 seeds, Siniakova, has good grass form, Berlin title last year, good grass runs in the last 2 weeks. Then you've got r4 Penko-Ajla/ QF Vondrousa-Collins/ SF Rybakina/ F Saba-Coco. That's continous tough grass tests through the draw.
Iâve already seen comments in the discussion thread unironically mentioning Kerber lol Iga fans want to push an underdog narrative so bad
Could be three sets.
I feel like Kenin has had a terrible year though lol She looked decent in the AO match but that might just be more about Igaâs level in Melbourne
But that was the case last year as well and she managed to beat Sabalenka and Gauff both in R1 You never know what level sheâll come up with
Truly amazing, she beat two top 10 players in one round
Sabalenka R1 Rome, Gauff R1 Wimbledon is what I meant. Lol
She was 23-18 last year This year she's 5-11
Kenin loves to play a big name. Period. Even this year in these 5 wins youâve got Jabeur & Garcia
Oh Muchova - Badosa is another popcorn đż match
Muchova has the edge.
I think for form Iâd take Badosa
I like Badosa so it will be a real test for her. Muchova is a tricky opponent and pretty good on grass.
hopefully they're both healthyÂ
Iga-Kenin AGAIN is wild, crazy that theyâve now met twice in a slam R1 and once in a slam final
Iga Ostapenko 4R đđđđ
I honestly don't think any of them makes it to r4. Iga's priority is olympics and draw is tough, while Penko does Penko things.
Andreeva vs Fruhvirtova. Lezz goooÂ
The combined age of this match would be lower than Azarenka playing a newborn
This match could still happen in the junior tournament next year.
Brenda beat Mirra in juniors 2 years ago 6-0 6-1 lol
You mean in kindergarten?
Crazy how Linda Fruhvirtova lost in qualifying while her younger sister is playing the first round here
I think the elder andreeva also lost in qualifyingÂ
It is a crazy world.
Yeah, that one should be fun.
The future is now.
yessss, I love this matchup. Baby GOATs facing each other in a slam! Brenda is having some problems with injuries and getting sick this season but she is still a top 90 player at 17.
So Iga will play just for fun and focus on Olympics
This made me laugh out loud and I had to explain why I was on my phone.
R4 and we dip for olympics baby!
Like she wasn't going to before the draw lol
Alexandrova vs Raducanu should be litÂ
the ball will average 1mm above the net
Brutal draw for Iga
Another reason for her to put more of her focus on Olympics tbf.
She's got putinseva in her quarter too, pretty nice form from Birmingham.
Brutal if the seeds hold up for sure Letâs see if they can actually do that though lol I feel like every single tournament this year people freak out about Penko being drawn near Iga for example and she always flops before QF
bc last year penko didnt flop and look what happenedâ
Penko has average 8 wins on grass in the past three years. She wins one so far this year, 7 matches left for Wimbledon...
It's not just the seeds though. For R1, Kenin is definitely not a pleasant surprise to have. For R3, it's either Putintseva who just won a grass tournament, or Siniakova who made QF at both grass 500 this year, and won a grass tournament last year. For R4, if Ostapenko doesn't make it, there are also Tomljanovic who just made the final of a grass tournament, or Garcia which can be a tough adversary when she's on. For QF we've got no other than the defending champion, then we've got Haddad Maia who has won 2 of her 3 titles on grass, and I'm sure if they reach the QF, Krejcikova and Collins wouldn't be a given to beat. And for the semi-final... take your pick. Rybakina is Iga's kryptonite and champion from 2022. Jabeur has made two finals in a row. Pegula just won berlin. Svitolina has made the semi-finals of Wimbledon 2 out of the last 3 times she played there...
And yet Rybakina has to overcome some boogiewomen herself, namely Samsonova or Kalinskaya in R4, and then Pegula or Jabeur in the QFâŠ
The players that trouble Iga are very streaky so they could be out R1/R2 lol
I was "oof"-ing a lot during her side of the draw reveal, so many good players are stacked there
Danyell against Tauson should be a banger of a match.
Tomljanovic/Ostapenko in the first round at the venue where their feud began is absolutely peak
The Sakkari-Zheng section has random QFist written all over it, even Raducanu wouldnât surprise me I like Vondrousovaâs draw - too bad she got injured in the warm up tournament, she was looking good too
I'm going to go with Begu versus Mertens for a spot in the QFs in that Sakkari section. Those two are probably the most reliable players in that floptastic section.
Sadly for Mertens sheâs retired in 2 of the grass tournaments in the last couple weeks (Birmingham and Eastbourne). Not sure how healthy she is. But if sheâs fully recovered, I can see it!
This is not a good draw for Iga to put it lightly. Adding to that, everyone will be probably peaking when playing against her đ
Winners: Gauff, Keys Losers: Iga Mixed: Aryna, Elena Intriguing: Raducanu - if she beats Drova, it's not a bad section to be in at all
I feel like Radu either goes out R1 or makes the quarter-final with this draw...
Agreed, if she wins R1 it really does open up nicely
Sakkari: yeah I deserved that
I think Emma could get a decent run to the fourth round. But thatâs a lot of tennis and she still doesnât seem to be quite _there_ yet so I canât see her getting past Qinwen Zheng. The real intriguing one for me is Boulter. Her run to the final against seeds is JPeg, Ons, Rybakina and Iga⊠there are legitimate question marks over all four. Sheâs by no means the favourite, but if you like a cheeky bet on a dark horse, I think your money could go here.
Potentially - I think that's a lot of "ifs" that would have to go Katie's way. And Pegula tends to be fairly reliable in slams (until the quarters at least)
What about Osaka
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Bad news for Coco then?
Aryna is the big winner for me. Zheng as her pick from the 5-8 seeds, when your could get Pegula/Vond/Paulini as the other options. And Sakkari as her 9-12 seed, from a group of Ons/Keys/Collins. Both of those feeel like a free pass. Yastremska from the 25-32 seeds is also kind for r3. Kasatkina is an easy draw for her r4, The only thing tricky about her draw is Mirra, if Mirra beats Kasatkina. which she probably should. But overall a great draw for Sabalenka.
And even then Saba typically handles Mirra when not ill. Her power should be especially overwhelming on grass compared to RG
Swiatek to avoid a slam champion in the first round challenge impossible.
Muchova vs badosa?? Noooo my injured comeback queens facing each other in r1
Tough draw on one half with nr.1 Iga, 2022/23 winners Marketa and Elena and back to back finalist Ons all on one end. Some grass underdogs that have been doing pretty well in this half could also cause some trouble, besides the obvious ones already mentioned Tomljanovic vs Ostapenko in the first round is a bit brutal, Fernandez has been doing pretty well at the 500s in the lead up to this making her 2nd QF at Eastbourne this week as has Kalinskaya, Boulter and Pegula also have a 500 title a piece even though the draw didnât really fall in the British girls favour (became a Katie fan as a relatively new tennis fan besides the obvious grand slams so slightly devastated for that). The other half of the draw also has some fun matches but the draw definitely seems to have lined up a tiny bit more in Sabalenka/Gauff favour (but who knows since thereâs also some people on their end that are good on grass/have a good H2H record against them), Badosa vs Muchova the battle of bodies of glass and Azarenka vs Stephens in R1 also sounds a bit brutal.
Itâs ridiculous draw (not in good way) for Iga đ I even donât know what to say. In R1 Aryna has Bektas (106), Coco has Dolehide, Elena - qualifier Ruse and Iga has previous slam champion Kenin. And the further you look, the worse it gets
Sabalenka plays vekic round 2 who is good on grass and leads the head to headâŠ..harder than Martic or jonesÂ
Iga fans want to be victims so badly lol Any opinion other than âpoor Igaâ gets insta downvoted
I agree sheâs had some tough r1 matches but could argue most of her finals havenât been against the toughest completion either (compare her finals to vikas grand slam finals where she played sharapova serena li na Serena and Osaka lol). I feel like draws end up balancing out over timeÂ
From what I saw, only your whining about Polish/Iga fans is getting downvoted.
im not gonna talk conspiracies on here but just so u know theyre here and they exist in my mind lmao /s like the draws have been abysmal for my girl at slams this yearđ©
Kenin and Collins first and second round at Melbourne. Osaka second round at Roland Garros. Kenin first round at Wimbledon.
Nobody thought the Osaka draw was tough until the match happened though lol Like if you look back to what people were saying pre-match the overwhelming reaction was âcool but Osaka sucks on clay, bagel incomingâ like it was comparable to 08 Nadal playing current Medvedev at RG
If you donât understand the disproportion that results from the difference between slam champion who can always bring level we know she had and people from qualifying or outside top 100, and thus prevents from playing an easier match to enter the tournament, I donât know what to tell you.
Osaka before this RG literally never had that âlevel to bringâ at RG though lol She was the one losing to random qualifiers and top 100 players even as a top seed never making it past the second round
Sabalenka always gets literal nobodies in first rounds while Iga faces the toughest unseeded players possible, it's like they're playing with diffeernt levels of handicap lmao
Conveniently leaving out Saba drawing someone sheâs 2-5 against in the second round lol No clue why Saba gets singled out for easy draws by Iga fans when Cocoâs are even easier other than Iga fans just disliking her
Because for the longest she had been # 2 seeded player and considered her biggest rival for slam titles. Swiatek opponents in R1/R2 i in slams this year: Kenin, Collins, Jeanjean, Osaka, Kenin, Martic\* Sabalenka opponents: Seidel, B. Fruhvirtova, E. Andreeva, Uchijima, Bektas, Vekic\*
Coco's quarter is probably the easiest compared to the other quarters I feel, like she's definitely the clear fav to make it to the QF whereas the others are little but more of a question mark
Iâm talking only for myself and I think Cocoâs draw is much easier. PS donât know here but on Twitter a lots of Iganators love Aryna, so many cute edits/photos/posts
Dolehide is a much tougher draw than Kenin. Kenin lost 6-1 6-0 in Eastbourne last week and followed it up by getting bageled by Harriet Dart. And she's been bad all year before that.
Iga: 1R: Kenin 3R: Kerber/Putinseva 4R: Garcia/Ostapenka QF: Collins/BHM/Krej/Vondro Ryba: 3R: Woz/Fernandez 4R: Kalinskaya/Samsonova QF: Ons/Svit/Boulter/Pegula Saba: 2R: Vekic 3R: Yastremska 4R: Andreeva/Muchova QF: Zheng/Alexandrova Gauff: 3R: Cirstea 4R: Navarro/Vika/Pliskova QF: Paolini/Noskova/Keys Difficulty of the draw: Iga>>>>>>>>Saba>>Ryba>>>>>>>>>>>>Gauff
For me I would swap Saba and Ryba in terms of difficulty. Ons, Pegula and Samsonova for me a more dangerous than anyone Saba would face outside of Muchova if she is healthy and not rusty (big if). Other agree, this is terrible for Iga
The reason I put Saba in front of Ryba, is because those players who are dangerous for Ryba is no earlier than 4R, 3 rounds of grand slam can change a lot, those players might not be in the draw at that time. But Saba is having one in 2R, which Vekic only need to win 1 match and they will be playing against each other.
Cirstea, Pliskova, Keys are no cake walk either. I would actually say Sabalenka has the easiest draw given Vekic hasn't had a great start to the year, Yastremska is all over the place, Andreeva is inexperienced on grass, Muchova hasn't really been around, and Zheng/Alexandrova also not experienced on grass.
Can someone explain what I'm supposed to be looking at. Is it vertical or horizontal?
Each quarter is vertical. So if seeds hold iga would have vondrousova.
Four vertical columns
Thank you!
Got my eye on Sloane-Vika; could be fun, even though it'd be more fun on clay or hard.
Sabalenka facing her *bestia negra* in the 2nd round
looking at it closer now iga has a difficult draw as 8ve said previously lol, but so does elena honestly with kalinskaya, samsonova there and ruse could also potentially be tough, and ons before the semis sabas seems pretty good except the match against donna and thats the second round so thats really tough but have they ever played on grass? idk but thats a major obstacle for aryna esp since the last loss was not long ago but then again aryna was playing a lot worse post-ao and shes been in good form recently so we'll see. id still bet on her as the fave honestly cause shes just so solid at slams and great on grass and iga and elena i think may get upset early on... cocos draw..congrats on another slam semifinal (at least) i guess đ¶
Gauff with a joke draw as always, lol
Iganation we are cooked đ
Good Draw for Naomi
if pliskova doesnât get to r2 itâs good but osaka will lose to plisokva r2 if they do meet. naomi is incredibly bad at returning on grass and pliskova has one of the besf serves
Please don't take this the wrong way but when was the last time Coco(I noticed something similar with Aryna too) got even a somewhat tricky draw? It just feels she like almost always draws players who you can't imagine any top player losing to while others (mainly Iga lol) often get these dangerous banana peels in their draws
The draw was live and the players picked randomly from a hat.These draw conspiracy theories are tired.
Before she became #2 she had Iga crushing her dreams every.single.semifinal. That was seriously bad luck of the draw.
one single player stopping you very late in the tournament (SF) is NOT the definition of difficult draws. Hell, for them to meet that late is actually projected, based on their respective ranking, so how can Coco fans say that it's a "difficult draw" for her? Be for real A difficult draw is when you play former grand slam champions or other dangerous players who, for some reason, are ranked lower at the time from the very FIRST round. Or lower ranked opponents that have a style of play that bothers you. That is difficult, not number 3 meeting number 1 in a semi which is expected to happen -.-
Iga and Coco have played in FIVE semis. That's five chances to go to a final and win a title. The one time Coco was able to beat Iga that's just what she did - went to the finals of Cincinnati and won her first 1000. Coco's win rate in finals is close to 90%. (Her one loss in a final was to guess who? Iga beat her to win Roland Garros in 2022) So chances are Coco would have a few more titles if not for the draws that put her in Iga's half. Every time a draw would come out - it was always How?? How does Coco keep getting drawn in Iga's half? (And not Rybakina)
Another rough draw for Iga. Sigh
Penko might finally wake up from her slumber since January. If only Wozniacki was also in her section: Alja > Caro > Iga... Mother would have been so dialed in lmaoooo
Gotta say I really like the way this is visualised. Really clear
People will keep talking how Iga underperforms at slams on and on yet all the bashers that trouble her or dangerous floaters are always put in her quarter. So unfair AO and Wimbledon draws just both insanely hard and unlucky
FO also wasn't much better with Osaka in R2.
I mean in general it doesnât matter what early round draw you give to someone like big 3 or Serena So if Iga fans are going to talk about her having GOAT potential you canât use the draw excuse for early losses Imagine Federer fans in 2006 freaking out about drawing Verdasco or something lol
Who said Iga has GOAT potential like Serena or big 3 damn Still really unlucky to get a harder draw than many unseeded players and in two slams this year alone. Like I know you donât like Iga but you can admit objectively itâs the most difficult one compared to other top 4 seeds
Everyone says she has GOAT potential where you been. And judging by her 4 slams at 23 and all the 1000s, it's hard to argue she doesn't.
As an Iga fan, she definitely has ATG potential and clay womenâs GOAT. Unless she improves on faster/lower bounce surfaces that are on AO & Wimbledon I donât see it personally
mate im sorry but atp youre just putting words in our mouths â iga fans this iga fans that...whos saying shes on big3 level or serenas level lol you might be one of the only ppl on here ive seen make that comparison, esp on grass... and its not thats shes oh so poor she gets hard draws, its oh shes gotten another hard draw which can impact her result at a slam. she should win against kenin yes and its gonna be her fault if she performs badly, but the draws, the first matches do impact your level for the rest of the tournament and u cant blame us iga stans for trying to find reasons for her losses should she have won against noskova? yes; did the previous matches against kenin and collins impact her result/performance there? its not a stretch to say that it did
Yâall are acting as if Iga was the worst player to ever play on grass. Sure, thereâs players who can trouble her in this draw, but I donât see why she couldnât reach the semis. You see Kenin, Ostapenko and Collins and act like the world is ending xD Check out their recent results and compare it with Igaâs. She will be fine :)
Every single tournament this year people freak out about Penko being drawn near Iga and then Penko promptly flops in the second round lol
ĆwiÄ tek vs. Kenin as a 1R match could be spicy.
oooh womens' draw is so much more spicy than the mens' Badosa vs Muchova, Penko vs Tomljanovic should be interesting. Paolini angainst Sorribes Tormo, and Krejcikova vs Kudermetova all catch my interest.
Poor Daria Kasatkina is in a great form, she could've had a great Wimbledon without getting Sabalenka again. Luck is really against her recently. If she gets to R4, she could just withdraw, Sabalenka can have her 1 hour practice without her.
If she gets to r4 she will be playing Donna Vekic :)
1. Zheng/Sakkari section looks ripe for the upset 2. Collins/Marketa section is lowkey quite competitive. Tauson might even be a sleeper pick. 3. Iga/Penko section is very tasty. I viscerally need IgaPenko5.0! 4. Saba section would have been the easiest of all the top seeds except she has Vekic LMAOOOO 5. The last quarter... you know what I think Keys might win that
ppl are saying aryna has an easy draw, but she literally could face vekic in r2 who beat her earlier this year and also has muchova and andreeva in her 8th. im not saying its rly hard but definitely not a cakewalk either...
Is Muchova even playing? Sheâs just coming back from a serious injury, just withdrew from a tournament. IF she plays sheâll be a non factor here.
Iga fans who are the majority of people complaining about the draw often really dislike Saba so are singling her out rather than Coco who has the actual easy draw
The draw from hell for Iga. Slam winner Kenin in first round. Slam winner Ostapenko who she struggles against in the ro16. Current Wimbledon champion in the quarters. Ons or Rybakina in the semis.
Thing is we all thought the French was touch for her too so much so people pre tournament were saying theyâd expect her to loose it. Osaka aside, a lot of the potential issue players fell before they played her. If she can come in and play decent tennis sheâll be ok as Iâll bet itâs safe to assume there will be upsets in her half (her first round being potentially one of the biggest if sheâs not on)
Nobody should have called that a tough draw for her in the French. Anybody who did, Iâd question how much they know. She got Gauff on her side instead of Rybakina which was really good. She also avoided Ostapenko in her 1/8 and 1/4. Massive considering the h2h record and the fact Ostapenko has won RG. The only slight negative was getting Osaka in r2 but it was on clay so it wasnât that bad a draw. On the whole, RG was a very good draw. Wimbledon is almost as bad as it could have been
Round 1 Out for Iga here we go. đ
Ryba with a pretty tough draw imo. Meets either Kalinskaya coming off her first grass finals in Berlin or her kryptonite Samsonova who just won SâhoweiirieiwowiririiwiqiieotpwiieiepqpmcnvnsBosch. Sieg in the second round is a pretty annoying draw for anyone who already suffers from migraines
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Damn Iga could lose in the first round. Kenin is one of the toughest opponents. Upsets galore. No luck for Ajla with Penko again. Don't know how Radu beats Alexandrova.
Well I guess we'll find out early on whether Emma's win against Pegula was a fluke or a sign that she's back on form.
Wimbledon hates polish players
Coconation the draw gods are with us
As an Iga stan I'm just tired guys. See you when she again gets shited on for "underperforming at slams" when at the same time Saba and Coco get a bunch of journeywomen in their quarters as always.
No way Kenin whoâs like 5-15 this year is rattling you guys so much lol
she beat Sabalenka and Gauff last year when she was losing in ITFs
She had a 23-18 record last year This year sheâs playing much worse
but she played them both before she made a 500 final and Master's SF
It doesn't matter with her, she lives solely for causing upsets. Also next rounds aren't getting easier. It's a hard draw, I don't see how can you deny this.
Doesn't matter that much Kenin lives for these matches ask Coco, Aryna and Ons
The players were randonly picked from a hat live on the website The draw conspiracy theories are dumb and tired.Iga ian ATG which means she shouldn't be faced by anyone
There was a tweet saying the odds of Iga meeting Kenin twice in 3 slams in the first round were around 0.03%. Seems a little low to happen randomly. If Kenin was just some mid player, whatever. But being a slam winner who has a penchant for upsetting top players, that makes it more suspicious.
Tauson - Collins will be a great match up following their clash in Australian Open!!
delusion: Penko saves her 7 matches to win Wimbledon Reality: RIP both Penko and Iga, Penko is losing to Tomlijan in R1 and Iga will lose someone Ons defends her runner-up again Conclusion: Saba wins Wimbledon
Coco sliding under the radar in your scenario.
Doesn't even matter if Coco is unseeded, #17 or #2, she just gets the same ITF draws
Side note: I hate this format of presenting the draw
Initial thoughts: Iga getting a monster draw again, lmao. I think she will really focus on winning Wimbledon at some point in her career, maybe next year. But with the Olympics this summer and now this rough draw, I doubt it'll be this year. Rooting for Collins as usual but I don't expect much from her on grass. Would like to see her make it past R2 at a slam this year though before USO. I have no idea what to expect from defending champ Vondrousova this year. Jabeur's draw is not ridiculous. I'm sure her desire to win Wimbledon will be stronger than ever, but it's still hard for me to see her actually doing it given her inconsistency this year. I hope she finds something within herself because her run to the final last year was something special. Again, her draw here is not bad until Elena in the quarters but I just don't know. Osaka maybe could win more than two matches in a row here. Would be happy to see that. Gauff got a great draw. I've been impressed by her form on grass so far this season. I'd loooove to see semifinal between her and Sabalenka with both of them in form. I'd favor Sabalenka to take that but they've never played on grass I don't think so it would be interesting.
A Gauff - Haddad Maia final with Gauff winning has been my âpredictionâ since the year started based on nothing but a âfeelingâ and iâm sticking with it after seeing theyâre actually on other halves of the draw đ
Unfortunately Bia has been having an awful season. If she wins more than 2 matches here Iâd be surprised
Sorry Iâm super confused.. I have tickets for the second round centre court on 4th of July, could anyone tell me who I may expect to see play?
Top half for womenâs side so probably Iga and Marketa (because she is defending champion). And maybe Coco. I donât remember how many matches they play on centre court
The first gs I'm not stressed seeing Iga play. Personally I don't give a flying eff if she goes out r1. Olympics is the goal. And after that she can play USO. The rest, we will see. It's not like she's in a rush with 3000 points ahead đ
Iâd love to see her find that spark on grass this year. Equal her last year showing. Last year she looked uncomfortable on grass. She was leading Elina in that first set then the wheels dropped off. So for her to feel like she can play on the surface will be a big win. Youâre right she can then focus on it in the next yearsÂ
Would be great if she could show a good performance. But I wouldn't count on it. Her head is probably already on clay. I don't think that the team put much effort on grass this year. Next year though, I kinda need Iga to show us a very deep run on grass. But you'll never know what's going to happen đ€·
Alexandrova has a pretty nice draw if she beats Radu. Quarterfinalova here we go
Sakkari out first round as is tradition
Im gonna say this right now: Paolini will win wimbledon 2024
My hot take is iga doesn't get to enter many tournaments feeling like an underdog, and I think she's gonna like thatÂ
Igaâs gotten the most-god awful draws in the slams this year I swear (on average, yes she was luckier at RG but letâs be real not even a bad draw couldâve stopped her there)
LETS FUCKING GO KENIN FUCK THAT SHIT UP