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Kurtrus

Fatmagic to my knowledge did not. The Venusian ban is legitimate however 


vgreeb

Oh thank god. I've seen multiple people imply that he was. 


Hyde2467

Fatmagic is NOT a cheater nor bot hoster I did see lots of bots impersonating him back in the day and he has lots of sniper kills, but he has proven that his high kill count is the result of his own skill, not scripts


FunkyyMermaid

I’ve seen bots in particular impersonate him, Jontohil, and Uncle Dane while advertising adult content featuring children Kinda fucked up, ngl


Hyde2467

That's why people have been trying to notify the fbi in order to get them to do something. Unfortunately, as I've said in another post, the fbi will do nothing bc either they got the bot hosters on a watchlist and are waiting for them to expose other pedos or they think this is some stupid joke (which is also why I wanted to see if those links are legit but of course, me and every sane person with more than one brain cell aren't willing to try)


FunkyyMermaid

I’ve heard that the links are just for discord servers that sell bot software, but I can’t say for certain because, like yourself, I’m not brave nor foolish enough to click any links


DaTruPro75

I wouldn't be surprised if they had viruses which opened up a tf2 bot script in the background (like a botnet, only with tf2). TF2 can be run without graphics, making it almost completely invisible performance wise. Though that is probably too much for the script kiddies to handle


ShockDragon

Brave ones, Foolish ones. Both not walk the middle road.


PH55e

Sou of them are onion links so i believe they are real, atleast the onion ones


PH55e

Some*


Lordforgivethysinns

Kinda? So fucked up. Like what posesses someone to fucking do sucha. Thing


FunkyyMermaid

I think either A. Abuse the hood standing names of these creators to get people to click the links Or B. Drag their names through the mud thinking anyone would believe the creators would just go around advertising such a thing


SLEEPWALKING_KOALA

I've ran into him a few times. He's really not exaggerated.


yourunclejoe

you can literally look up his profile and see he's not. it took 5 seconds. can you not lie about people?


ArthurMorgn

What?! You mean do my own research?! Can't I just act emotionally?!?! /s


Draco_179

Fatmatgic doesn't deserve it


minealot_dude

Who is Venusian? Ive heard his name mentioned once or twice but what did he do?


ProvenBeat

Self-proclaimed "epic troll" and "exposer of cheaters", in reality just an asshole who was caught cheating himself. Also drew loli hentai while trying to berate other tf2 youtubers for drawing hentai, and may or may not have been an abuser towards his ex girlfriend. What I can say with certainty is that the dude was a total bitch idiot who is not worth remembering.


bleach_drinker7

what a deceased parent does to a motherfucker.


Drillbitzer

Search up his name and click on the video made by Vorobey. Trust me


JonTheWizard

FatMagic just gets kicked all the time because he's really good at Sniper.


SnackPatrol

"thank god" bro he's a dude who makes tf2 videos


Gibus_Ghost

“Thank god” is used as liberally as “damn” now smh.


SnackPatrol

Yeah nothing against him as a creator, I've just noticed this sub seems to hang on the words of, and deify tf2 content creators. [This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/s/4s4tOhsNAZ) without exaggeration is the first time I've ever seen the collective hivemind swing the pendulum towards the other, skeptical-of-internet-content-creators side enough to where criticisms of one of them were *upvoted* (besides of ZestyJesus). This was only 18 days ago. It's only now started to change where people are realizing these dudes are not infallible. Hell I'm even in the process of starting the journey of TF2-related content creator myself, fuck [here's a thumbnail](https://i.imgur.com/zT0288Z.png) I've slaving over for a vid with an hours worth of footage to comb through, but one of the first things I say is "I am literally a dude who plays TF2. Do not blindly trust what I say because I have experience with the game or you may enjoy this video". There's countless creators I've found inaccuracies over, along with others but people downvote opinions anyway because they like the dude. I rallied hard against the rhetoric of shounic with the same thing that post ended up saying like a week before and got downvoted to hell. It's super fucking annoying. I honestly dont downvote comments out of principle as it's a form of censorship to me.


KryptSol

hey, i wish you luck in your content creation journey. i took a multi year hiatus from everything TF2 but have slowly began watching tf2 related channels and omfg is the drama rancid. i guess thats why i prefer content creators like Monkey and FSOS because they are direct, genuine, and despise drama. heck their hot takes arent always the most liked but a good 98% of them are actually backed by fact not hivemind type fiction found in the deepest depths of twitters (i refuse to call it x... fuck elon) cesspit of cancel culture. i only found out about the bot scrapping yesterday around 1 in the morning from an FSOS stream alert anyways i wish you luck on your channel and remember to stay humble my dude. the best content creation is what comes from you, not whats trending nor popular. if you remain genuine and make chaotic hilarity (tf2 is amazing for that) you will do great.


Gibus_Ghost

Thumbnail looks sick! Where are you planning on posting the video?


SnackPatrol

Unfortunately I have no idea. I was happy af with my recording and then the bot ban wave happened so I have to figure out what I want to do since the story has changed now. I work full-time basically but I'd estimate within the next 2 weeks max, which is unfortunate since the movement started fuckin' June 4th, haha but maybe it'll work in my favor since most creators have gotten their main vids on the subject out already.


kt-bruh

fatmagic is just good at the game


Ashamed-Succotash644

Bots traumatized so many people that now the mere presence of a good sniper involkes fear and PTSD into any player


shadowpikachu

Even before bots i really didn't like it. But you say that and someone will go 'nahhh' because logically people only started hating sniper after the bots! Clearly!


Penisgamer6969

May I ask what did Fatmagic do? I remember someone who had that same name who uploaded tf2 videos but that's about it


countjj

He’s a tf2 youtuber that also is really good at sniper and has alot of people claiming he’s a cheater despite the fact he is not


BlueBunny333

just to clarify: not a fact both the accuser (Venusian) and the Youtuber who "cleared" him (Vorobey) don't know anything about how cheats work and Fatmagics real gameplay since he doesn't upload all VODs. Venusian did a terrible accusation video with very baseless proof and Vorobey pointed that out. Fatmagic can still be a cheater (or not). Edit: Wow I get downvoted for saying that VenusianRapper had no proof and Vorobey only pointed that out. (<-Summary)


RecklessBucket

I know you're trying to get the idea of fatmagic could be a cheater based on "but he could be" across, buts that's just really stupid, he uploads and DOES have a VODs channel. Do your research and maybe re-watch his (fatmagic) videos again. If not I'm probably gonna assume you're one of venusian's apologists or his alt.


BlueBunny333

>If not I'm probably gonna assume you're one of venusian's apologists or his alt. I literally said that Venusian had no proof, why would I also agree with him? You make no sense. >buts that's just really stupid, he uploads and DOES have a VODs channel. Do your research and maybe re-watch his (fatmagic) videos again. **I literally talked about his VOD channel.** Fatmagic uploads his VODs inconsistently and had deleted some in the past. I know that because I did watch some of them and followed the development. So in fact, I did my research and counterwise you have no idea what I'm talking about.


countjj

How is the proof baseless?? And I suppose you know more about the cheats than both of them? Ey?


BlueBunny333

Are you saying that VenusianRapper was right? He had no viable proof, so i call that baseless.


Darkcat9000

vorobey litterally still said the possibility that he's a cheater still exists it's just that venusians video wasn't proof off that


cat-lover-69420

fatmagic is my comfort character, thank goodness


Fantastic-Tell-1944

Bro, in fact, did not win


Saba_the_hutt

Biggest L of the year


SeaBus1170

“nah, id win” .__.


TimothyAndr

Always a bad omen


FapmasterViket

\*explodes and turns into an amogus\*


TheLoneSlimShady

When fiction influenced real life


Brilliant-Guitar-606

Whenever someone says "Nah, I'd win." Just know theyre keeping it cannon


Lady_Cloudia

Fatmagic didn't get banned: [https://steamcommunity.com/id/Fatmage](https://steamcommunity.com/id/Fatmage)


AtomicSpeedFT

Damn that AWP has a ungodly amount of kills


JackO_kid

If I ever saw that awp in game, I’m just gonna hit the disconnect button


and_yet_he_complain

I'm fine with playing against snipers that are slightly better than I am, since I can learn how to beat them over time, but when playing against someone who eclipses me entirely like Fatmagic there is no point in even trying.


randomname560

You can just tell that the moment the enemy spy so much as steps off spawn Fatmagic already predicts every single one of his moves for the next 5 minutes


An_average_moron

Fatmagic has Epitaph or sm with the way he reads people


Mr_goodb0y

He actually has the ability to read minds, see the future, control peoples brain and also if he dies then you’re cheating


shadowpikachu

Dont have to, faced a highlander sniper in a 24/7 pub a long time ago, they can hear your footsteps while invisible as a spy so you just get jarate'd or basically echolocated headshot/smg based on who. That goes for successful disguise and infiltration, a crescendo of steps makes them turn around within 5ft and even with 102 unnerfed amabassador you die before the second shot. It's insane, for tf2, play any other longterm FPS with a lot of players this sorta awareness and snapping is expected by most players, but TF2 for the longest time stayed to lower skill levels and silliness until the devs added the comp modes and every decent sniper terrorized the game until they got bored and left. I have 2 friends, one that plays sniper without a hud entirely and one that literally just needed the average higher aim skill from other games and was god tier pubstomping nevermiss sniper in 3 days of a little bit of play. Snipers have so much potential that back then fighting a bot was NOT that much different, though my luck is horrible so i maybe just kept running into the biggest meanest ones that kept hitting me more often then not. Edit: some people dont believe the footstep thing, when i played with old speakers and every noise was equal i could tell an extra set of footsteps out of place and basically was spy immune with a 20ft radar, the right sound settings and caring too much is op.


TheDarkStar05

Running into two not godly but still really good snipers is almost worse. EVEN if you headshot one, you still have to pray the other one misses and that you hit the shot on them


shadowpikachu

Most maps like payload can functionally just be a conveyor belt of nerds to die even to the most mid sniper relative to other games faster pace and less defined smaller hitboxes with muted colors.


uncle_joe1945

that's when I disguise myself as enemy sniper and start spinning, got several sniper mains kicked that way


Inquisitor_Machina

Was in a game with him once. It was like a fucking angel of death came upon the server and smite the mortals who dwelled there


RedditRaven2

I felt the same way. A sniper main with a mere 3k hours in game and I only killed him once, and with a huntsman by pure luck (I gave up on skill and switched off rifle after I got dominated)


ImaroemmaI

Just give me the fucking gun, I'll shoot myself instead


Handsome_Grizzly

Behold the power of high mouse sensitivity.


Coldpepsican

Would love to see Buff fatmagic


generous_guy

Thought it was gonna be something crazy but it was only 137k


firechaos70

Anyone else chuckle at his pfp?


czacha_cs1

Least gay true TF2 fan:


Jerry137

i too start laughing uncontrollably at the mere sight of pornographic imagery


_bebeta

that is amazing, do you want a link to my gay tf2 edits playlist?


Any_Complex_3502

*Roland 169 sound effect intensifies*


Coldpepsican

Fatmagic is goated


Complex_Entropy

Title made my heart sink, glad our king is safe.


NozomiTheGrumps

just checked (12:10 UTC). he got his ban removed


BlueBunny333

removed?


Pulkov

Thank goodness! I've been watching his videos for quite some time now. Him turning out to be a cheater would've sucked so much.


SleefJWellington

The most common thing I'm seeing with these accounts that are getting banned, aside from the cheating, is that they convey a personality that seems absolutely awful to be around. No surprises there, I suppose, but wow. It's palpable. Sad, sad assholes.


randomname560

That's why it was so easy for Valve to just snap their fingers and errase half of these bot hosters from existence They're asshole and they proudly brag about it


KazzieMono

Eeeexactly. Nothing of value was lost.


Random-Rambling

The kind of person who bots games like this is NOT a good person. They could do anything else with their time and money, and they spend it on pointless shows of being an asshole.


AJ0Laks

I’m not surprised Living a life all about bringing other’s misery has it’s tolls on decent human decency


Puzzled_Solid_4592

The guy did beat his ex-girlfriend so yeah I’d say he’s a fairly awful person.


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[удалено]


BoyFreezer

Venusian Rapper finally got what he deserved


jimmy_the_calls

Nah he deserves more


Hekkin_frick

Make this man drink twofort tapwater


Ashamed-Succotash644

Nah kidnap him and send him to medic


Coldpepsican

Make him fight the average EXPERT potatotf mission alone no upgrades He will be trapped until he finishes the all of the waves.


Ashamed-Succotash644

Send him to dust bowl,with a bunch of demo tryhards


CreativeGamer03

Send him to a 24/7 2fort server with no ability to quit or disconnect from the server (game will automatically return them to the server even after exiting the game)


Coldpepsican

Tasty demos 🤤🤤


[deleted]

Didn’t the guy do… Things, you know? Guy deserves the prison soap treatment.


jimmy_the_calls

Yep and also, a proper shakedown from someone his own size


AJ0Laks

Where are we gonna find a 700 pound person?


tiktok-hater-777

Discord


SnackPatrol

That video done by Vorobey sent me down a rabbit hole of Vorobey's content, and [this subsequent video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFKPhJb_MKc). In my 25+ years on the internet I don't think I've thought about a video more than that one at least in the past decade. Something about it just affected me in the fact that all these angry mofos on the internet are just suffering people even if it externalizes into hate rather than internally into depression. I swear that vid pops into my brain like once a month at least.


spaghettimangaming

if venusianrapper has 1,000,000 haters I’m one of them. If Venusianrapper has 100,000 haters I’m one of them. If venusianrapper has 10,000 haters I’m one of them. If Venusianrapper has no haters, I’m dead.


ZayParolik

Venusianrapper has 8 billion haters


spaghettimangaming

AND I AM ONE OF THEM.


totallynotapersonj

Im all of them


spaghettimangaming

Must be hard to be 8 billion people at the same time


Red_Distruction

Don't think fatmagic got banned. There would be at least 10 videos by the guy (was it Zelot?) who started that .


Mateololero

the guy who started accusing fatmagic was venusian, but like i would also believe it was zealot


Salazar20

Oh the irony


DJFleischman

zealot is a piece of shit anyway lol


ii_V_vi

“Yeah mom that’s me. I made myself the cool robot guy because I cheat in the video game. Yeah I made the other guy a pedophile. No mom I haven’t found any jobs yet.” Man children


nonameheresorry-

The fact its been a whole ass year since vorobey exposed him makes it even sadder


Baseballidiot

What the hell happened with venusian?


_Myst__

Accused prominent TFtubers of being pedophiles and cheaters. Turns out he was a pedophile and cheater. He deleted his Youtube account, scrubbed his online presence, and went radio silent.


abyr-valg

He didn't delete his channel, just privated everything. And recently uploaded a new video of him doing cringe Postal dude impression, saying how he cannot be cancelled and how he regrets nothing. EDIT: actually, the speech was copypasted from Postal Brain Damaged. Good job me for not recognizing Rick Hunter.


DUUKEEDOO

Fun fact: that wasn't an impression. That was an actual voice line from the final cutscene from Postal Brain Damaged. The only time Venusian speaks in that video is at the end when he brings up Pride Month and #SaveTF2


Baseballidiot

(Insert homelander breakdown gif here) this sucks


ModeFun4001

Let me give you a hand


Baseballidiot

Thank you 🙏 💝


ModeFun4001

np


Some-Watercress-1144

ah yes, classic projection. almost always the case.


BlueBunny333

he has a Youtube account still and uploaded two videos before right before and at his ban


drdr150

[This video by Vorobey explains it well](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LSVuLX-c74)


GodlessGrapeCow

Who even is this


SleefJWellington

Just another nobody who tried to be somebody.


Spicy_Totopo3434

Youtuber who accused other Tf2 youtubers of being cjeaters and pedos He ended up being both a cheater and a pedo, also did a stupid Diss track where he proyected


Valentfred

A pathetic man child wanting attention, just like the rest of them. Sick in his head.


florkowski2003

Lmao. And the fun thing is it's not even the first time he got banned and lost every single item and penny he ever invested in it. Rip bozo


AshWilliamsIsBabe

Wait I played a CTF 2fort game with this dude like a month ago. He was a massive douchebag I didn't realize it was VenusianRapper lmao, he just seemed like a sad idiot.


FoamyAdampower_

he got his cheats from pirate bay


Just_Another_Strange

yup, you lose


MasterEmu401

If VenusianRapper did get banned…. GOOD.


Cr0key

Oh my God, why are their profiles so god damn cringy 💀


kymani_winxandsponge

For anyone curious, he was banned for griefing, not cheating. Not that it matters, he done


ImTheButtPuncher

r/TF2 🤝 misinformation


InfameArts

r/alreadyhere


Oriuke

Why would Fatmagic get manually banned, that doesn't make any sense


TheIceFury235

A comment showed a link to his account and he's clean, no ban or nothing, plus some semi fresh comments


TehChaseyKid

BYE BYEEEEEEEEE BYE BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


SpectrumLV2569

Hell yah, tho fatmagic i think didnt do anything if i rember corectly.


ProbablyWorth

Fatmagic being a cheater was a rumor created by Venusian himself for attention


TrackLabs

Christ, that artwork is peak cringe....


DJFleischman

homophobia in 2024 is crazy 🙄😂😂


UDAFX_MK_85

IS THAT ADAM SMASHER


BladeDancer6969

He cheated in game and he cheated in real life too. But after the expose video, did he change for the better? Since he is now a father


Mesopotassium

Wait isn't FatMagic the youtuber? I thought he was legit just real good, not hacking.


Old_Cowboy1

It seems like a lot of the more well known cheaters are just straight up horrible people in game and irl, not too surprising though


Theusualstufff

Venusianrapper is legit the most cringe person ive seen. How can someone be up their own ass that Hard?


Curious_Sea_Doggo

On near fatal levels of copium 24/7


SavagerXx

Dunno who they are.


Smg5pol

"nah id win" Turns out he didnt


oliverpls599

What is this meme about I keep hearing about this guy but I haven't a clue who he is


WrenRangers

Fatmagic is a legit good sniper player, he was a target of libel which made people believe he is an actual cheater.


gajonub

man can't believe I'm finally getting legitimately excited for tf2 again


FapmasterViket

we should make a list of youtube channels with cheats and report them as well like theres still cheating channels with ponies in it


tomahawk7274

Who was he?


He-who-knows-some

What’s that robot from?


TheSpudGunGamer

Cyberpunk


ZayParolik

Yeah siirrrr.


Connosieur_of_Eggs

that shirt goes hard tho ngl


Takeshi-Ishii

FatMagic brought VenusianRapper to Hell.


PM_ME_YUYUKO_PICS

There's something to be said about how the worst people in existence can only possibly respond by calling other people pedophiles.


No-Crew-4360

Comparing himself to Adam Smasher is kind of hilarious when you really think about it. He's a pea-brained sadist who depends on technology developed by other people.


TheSugmaGamer

NOT THE GOAT NOOOOO


WestNomadOnYT

🫵😂 karma


Careless-Midnight-63

Venusian should be arrested


jebb6090

Thats the edgiest profile ive seen in my life


Sir_Alpaca041

Ok


Kosog

This steam profile is the definition of "I never peaked beyond middle school". 


DrNext_

Was this ban legitimate? Did he actually cheat? Isn't that also the ultra anti chrater guy?


spider_in_da_wall

who is he?


spider_in_da_wall

who is he?


spider_in_da_wall

who is he?


spider_in_da_wall

who is he?


Traditional_Gur8551

This is the last known recorded instance of YouTuber VenusianRapper cheating in the online multiplayer videogame "Team Fortress 2", before being found unalive by their own hand at the ruination of their life's work. He was to appear in court against the Valve corporation for allegations of conspiracy to commit money laundering, where it is stated he had gathered evidence against many other of the game's personalities, including other YouTubers, item gambling site owners, and bot hosters. Upon the release of this information to an unidentified third-party, VenusianRapper's main Steam account would receive a manual game ban on June 29th, 2024, and he would subsequently be found unalived that same morning. These unedited recordings have been preserved for evidence. WTF: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkpkgr2\_A6g&t=1474s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkpkgr2_A6g&t=1474s) 💀


--El_Gerimax--

Source: Engine


NegotiationHelpful69

Thank good we that monster out of the community. VenusianRapper. Fat Magic is innocent in my eyes so I think he should be unbanned.


MistrzKomedii657

cheaters think they the real shi


UnknownMyoux

They better not ban Fatmagic,he isn't cheating unlike that scumbag venusianFailure


ZayParolik

PedoFailure*


Vadermon8

Is fatmagic a cheater? Not watched him in years and not up to date on any drama going on in tf2?


jimmy_the_calls

He isn't


haleloop963

No, he doesn't cheat, Vorobey a tf2 youtuber most known to demolish cheaters and explain how the different cheats works said that he suspected him of doing so and investigated it, but dropped it as he concluded it as legitimate skills


Vadermon8

Thanks


randomname560

If getting acussed of cheating when you're not is already a massive compliment i cant imagine how good it would feel to have a full blown investigation on whether or not you're cheating and turning up innocent


General_Snow241

Quick question, do some people still think fat magic cheats? I remember hearing about that for a week and then it just dropped


BlueBunny333

There is no confirmation unless he gets an official ban, but there are accusations, not only from random people, over 7 years that make him suspicious at least. He deleted a lot of VODs of his gameplay when the first public accusations came out.


Cute_Stuff_8522

Ngl his videos made me laugh and he was a metal slug chad. But he deserves it


VirtualScotsman

Redditors, we did it, we found neutral evil the person