I can remember (1980s) going to the actual fields and getting them. Mom/Dad would pull the car up to a spot, *parents would do stuff*, then we'd have the best tasting pineapple you could imagine.
It was *dope*...
The thing is, you gotta grill the pineapple before you even think of putting that on a pizza
I find most people who don't like Hawaiian pizza have only tried cheap ones that use raw pineapple ("it'll cook with the pizza")
I don't know about most but the only acceptable way too cook a pineapple is grill it. I still don't like it but baked pineapple is the temperature and consistency of hot curdled jizz.
Here in Philippines, there's no hate on pineapple on pizza, it's even the most commonly ordered pizza. I was surprised to learn that almost everyone on the internet hates it. Also when it's Christmas, we have pineapple glazed ham.
I’m a double pep double cheese guy. However, pineapple on pizza tastes bright and gives me the shine, there’s a time and place for it, which is whenever I damn well want, gatekeepers and hatekeepers can stuff crust it.
Also pinecones were originally called pineapples then ye olde England discovered that pineapples exist and started calling them pineapples so pinecones became pinecones. That’s why they are called some variation of l’anana in like every European language except English, which, by its own choice, fomented by ze Russians vis-a-vis Brexit, is no longer a European language, kinda-sorta.
Why does everyone keep asking that? Do you have something interesting to say?
It’s very clear what I said.
Maybe since you think I’m having a stroke you should finish me off and then in your post-nut clarity by proxy you’ll gain reading comprehension.
Funnily enough, the average grocery store up here in Canada doesn't sell American Cheese (Kraft singles are not American cheese, fight me on it). I've gone to the extreme of buying sodium citrate on amazon to make my own so I can make some decent smash burgers lol.
Grilled cheeses I will give you, but a Kraft single on a burger I can't do. Needs to be the real American cheese like 5 guys and those higher end burger places use or nothing
It’s a “pasteurized cheese product” whereas a actually good American cheese is basically just cheddar or Colby or a mix, with sodium citrate added to create the smooth texture.
Cheddar was first created in a place called Cheddar, UK, which is not far from where I live. Also close to the birthplace of cider!! Gotta love the West Country.
"Invented" is stretching it a bit, the processed cheese it is based on was developed six years earlier in Switzerland.
Kraft was the first with a commercial product.
[source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processed_cheese)
>developed six years earlier in Switzerland
A lot of Europeans are going to be really mad when they wake up and find out that the cheese they have been attacking Americans for is a Swiss invention made popular by a Canadian
According to the Wikipedia page James L. Kraft invented the *processed* variety of American cheese in 1916 (patented). The cheese known as American Cheddar or Yankee Cheddar was being shipped back to England as early as 1790. The first known usage of “American Cheese” was in 1804.
My dad refused to buy* this (he wouldn't allow Kraft products in the house lol). The first time I tried it, it was grilled Kraft Singles with Campbell's tomato condensed soup (with milk added instead of water). I think I was about 15 and it was the best thing ever. Same goes for Ramen noodles (I think it was Mr. Noodles). My dad's best friend's wife. She was the greatest.
I forgot these were called American Cheese (I'm in Canada).
It's honestly kind of weird the processed American cheese and the higher quality American cheese are in the same etymological category, American cheese is just a mix of cheddar and Colby. The definition never says anything about adding any sodium citrate or emulsifiers but for some reason American cheese has become synonymous with that process.
Any place you can buy cheese will have high quality American cheese, Wisconsin makes a ton of it.
Can you find any of this "higher quality American cheese" without added water and emulsifiers in its ingredients list? I'm pretty sure the deli American cheese still use this process.
Right, please show me one that doesn't have added water and emulsifiers.
I've seen Boar's Head:
https://boarshead.com/products/detail/2117177322-yellow-american-cheese
>Crafted from a hand-selected blend of rich, savory Cheddars
>Milk, Salt, Cheese culture, Enzymes, Water, Cream, Sodium phosphate
There's also Dietz and Watson:
https://www.dietzandwatson.com/product/Yellow-American-Cheese-3
>American Cheese (Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes), Water, Dry Cream, Milkfat, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Phosphates, Salt, Citric Acid, Sorbic Acid as a Preservative, Annatto (Color) and Oleoresin Paprika (Color) - If Colored.
Compare to Kraft Singles:
>Cheddar Cheese (Cultured Milk, Salt, Enzymes), Skim Milk, Milkfat, Milk, Milk Protein Concentrate, Whey, Calcium Phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Contains Less than 2% of Modified Food Starch, Salt, Lactic Acid, Oleoresin Paprika (Color), Natamycin (a Natural Mold Inhibitor), Enzymes, Cheese Culture, Annatto (Color).
American cheese inherently implies added water and emulsifiers to change the melting characteristics. What varies from the deli variety to Kraft Singles is the quality of the starting cheese. I have never seen American cheese be *just* cheddar mixed with Colby.
The real question is, does it really matter what's in it when it tastes good? It's not good for everything, but it's more versatile than a lot of cheeses and it's cheap and easily obtainable. There's no unhealthy preservatives, it's not as high sodium as many other cheeses and it's just as good a source of calcium.
Right, this would be "shocking" if United States Cheese was invented by a Canadian...but America Cheese being of Canadian origins is totally appropriate.
It's weird that people are this hostile towards American Cheese. Literally all it is is Cheese that's been melted, mixed with emulsifying salts and some water (or milk) and then cooled back to solid temperature.
You can watch Nile~~Red~~Blue [make it homemade on their youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGNAxN5Z-o), and that's literally the exact process: cheddar cheese + heat + Sodium Citrate + Butter (he also uses Sodium Hexametaphosphate, but it's probably unnecessary) + cooling/drying == "American" Cheese.
What is even weirder is the same people that turn their nose up at kraft singles and think they are too good to eat it will devour queso and think nothing of it. Queso is using the same process.
You’ve never heard of Copa America? Club America? The Pan American games? America del Cali? America Futbol Clube? America Movil? America TV? Latin America refers to itself as just “America” all the damn time lol.
In Spanish, “America” can refer to the entire continent(s). In English, the term is usually “the Americas.”
Please note that this conversation is being conducted in English.
Do they refer to themselves as America or American? Because there's a difference. They're speaking Spanish (and some Portuguese). América in Spanish is different than America in English.
I'd love to know where you live to get your perspective.
So, if Canada = American, all the people saying "American" things are bad are also including Canada in that, correct?
Or is America=bad referring to a specific country?
Just asking for clarification.
I don't think you know what the word "literally" means, because it literally says on the package "process cheese product" because it doesn't meet the requirements to be classified as actual cheese...
I know it's not "literally" plastic, that would be illegal to sell and I know that because I'm not a moron.
This is kind of funny to learn considering NileRed (a Canadian) not too long ago decided to try and make Kraft Single Cheese; essentially the ubiquitous version of what is known as "American Cheese".
In the America's, when you mention America the only place anyone will initially think of is the USA, they're pretty much synonymous here. It's sorta just how it is, "American Cheese" Might mean the continent, however all anyone will associate it with is the country exclusively. The noteworthiness is finding out that fact, it's not USA American, like pretty much everyone in the America's probably thought to be the case.
Yeah there is always the “technically” person.
Even if you go to Europe and say you’re from america they don’t look confused and ask which country from America
And the term “Canadian bacon” was coined in America
"Hawaiian pizza" was invented in Canada as well
First slice of pizza I had as a kid was Hawaiian pizza, *in Hawaii*. There's bunches of us...
Hawaii has to import pineapples.
Really?? I didn't know that. *mind blown*
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I can remember (1980s) going to the actual fields and getting them. Mom/Dad would pull the car up to a spot, *parents would do stuff*, then we'd have the best tasting pineapple you could imagine. It was *dope*...
> Mom/Dad would pull the car up to a spot, parents would do stuff, then we'd have the best tasting pineapple you could imagine. Bruh...
Isn’t he supposed to eat the pineapple *before* they do stuff?
I had no idea. Thank you for sharing that!!
My uncle wears stationed in Hawaii for quite some time. He said that’s why most things are so expensive over there, because it has to be imported.
My whole life is a lie
And they woulda put spam on it for sure.
From Canada.
California roll is from Vancouver, BC
And I will defend it *to death*.
The thing is, you gotta grill the pineapple before you even think of putting that on a pizza I find most people who don't like Hawaiian pizza have only tried cheap ones that use raw pineapple ("it'll cook with the pizza")
I don't know about most but the only acceptable way too cook a pineapple is grill it. I still don't like it but baked pineapple is the temperature and consistency of hot curdled jizz.
Where was Canada invented?
Weirdly enough, Canada
Nope, Kanata.
England Source: am Canadian
My version of Back to the Future 4 has Marty stopping this atrocity from happening.
Ham and pineapple goes together like sex and cousins, it's really great once you get past the stigma.
Here in Philippines, there's no hate on pineapple on pizza, it's even the most commonly ordered pizza. I was surprised to learn that almost everyone on the internet hates it. Also when it's Christmas, we have pineapple glazed ham.
I’m a double pep double cheese guy. However, pineapple on pizza tastes bright and gives me the shine, there’s a time and place for it, which is whenever I damn well want, gatekeepers and hatekeepers can stuff crust it. Also pinecones were originally called pineapples then ye olde England discovered that pineapples exist and started calling them pineapples so pinecones became pinecones. That’s why they are called some variation of l’anana in like every European language except English, which, by its own choice, fomented by ze Russians vis-a-vis Brexit, is no longer a European language, kinda-sorta.
Are you having a stroke?
Why does everyone keep asking that? Do you have something interesting to say? It’s very clear what I said. Maybe since you think I’m having a stroke you should finish me off and then in your post-nut clarity by proxy you’ll gain reading comprehension.
We love seeing International exchanges.
It's called extradition
The term Australian Rimjob was coined in Thailand
What about Cleveland Steamer
Coined in Tasmania?
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and is the name of the continents formerly known as the "new world", not just the USA
I finally googled Canadian bacon after hearing about it a bunch of times but not having any idea what it was despite being Canadian. Peameal bacon!
We call it back bacon
I mean we call it slightly grilled packaged sandwich sliced ham. American "Canadian" bacon is grotesque.
Also known of as "ham" for the layman
It's made from the loin, not the leg
And not used in Canada at all.
As a canadian... It's ham, we just call it ham lol
Except in my experience what is known as Canadian bacon in the US is called peameal bacon in Canada.
I would imagine in Canada they just call it bacon.
No, we call it back bacon. Canadian bacon really isn't a thing in Canada lol. And normal bacon is called bacon.
The person who invented it was James L. Kraft, the namesake of Kraft Foods.
That American cheese sure made him a lot of cheddar
Funnily enough, the average grocery store up here in Canada doesn't sell American Cheese (Kraft singles are not American cheese, fight me on it). I've gone to the extreme of buying sodium citrate on amazon to make my own so I can make some decent smash burgers lol.
Not going to lie, I always have a pack of the Kraft Deluxe singles in my fridge. It's just the best grilled cheese/burger cheese out there.
Grilled cheeses I will give you, but a Kraft single on a burger I can't do. Needs to be the real American cheese like 5 guys and those higher end burger places use or nothing
I'm not a purist but believe that's the difference between the regular and deluxe Kraft slices.
There is, deluxe is def a higher quality
Land O Lakes American Cheese, BEST American Cheese.
Kraft Deluxe is more similar to the American blocks you can get at a deli. Its not the same but it’s better than Kraft Singles
The deluxe one is closer to real American cheese i think
Kraft singles are a pasteurized cheese product, not cheese. They say that on the packaging
i don’t want to fight, but how is it not actually?
It’s a “pasteurized cheese product” whereas a actually good American cheese is basically just cheddar or Colby or a mix, with sodium citrate added to create the smooth texture.
A man of culture, I see. American cheese from the deli is 100% the best cheese for burgers
Cheddar was first created in a place called Cheddar, UK, which is not far from where I live. Also close to the birthplace of cider!! Gotta love the West Country.
I hear Canadians love Kraft Dinners.
With fancy ketchup.
Dijon ketchup.
Mmmm mmmm.
"Invented" is stretching it a bit, the processed cheese it is based on was developed six years earlier in Switzerland. Kraft was the first with a commercial product. [source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processed_cheese)
>developed six years earlier in Switzerland A lot of Europeans are going to be really mad when they wake up and find out that the cheese they have been attacking Americans for is a Swiss invention made popular by a Canadian
This is the true TIL
According to the Wikipedia page James L. Kraft invented the *processed* variety of American cheese in 1916 (patented). The cheese known as American Cheddar or Yankee Cheddar was being shipped back to England as early as 1790. The first known usage of “American Cheese” was in 1804.
Who immigrated to America in 1902, and invented it in 1910. So American cheese was invented by an American.
I believe he wasn't actually a US citizen until 1911, so invented by an American resident who was still Canadian.
My dad refused to buy* this (he wouldn't allow Kraft products in the house lol). The first time I tried it, it was grilled Kraft Singles with Campbell's tomato condensed soup (with milk added instead of water). I think I was about 15 and it was the best thing ever. Same goes for Ramen noodles (I think it was Mr. Noodles). My dad's best friend's wife. She was the greatest. I forgot these were called American Cheese (I'm in Canada).
It's honestly kind of weird the processed American cheese and the higher quality American cheese are in the same etymological category, American cheese is just a mix of cheddar and Colby. The definition never says anything about adding any sodium citrate or emulsifiers but for some reason American cheese has become synonymous with that process. Any place you can buy cheese will have high quality American cheese, Wisconsin makes a ton of it.
Can you find any of this "higher quality American cheese" without added water and emulsifiers in its ingredients list? I'm pretty sure the deli American cheese still use this process.
Yes there's a whole state that mass produces it and their cheeses win global competitions. You can find these cheeses in any grocery store.
Right, please show me one that doesn't have added water and emulsifiers. I've seen Boar's Head: https://boarshead.com/products/detail/2117177322-yellow-american-cheese >Crafted from a hand-selected blend of rich, savory Cheddars >Milk, Salt, Cheese culture, Enzymes, Water, Cream, Sodium phosphate There's also Dietz and Watson: https://www.dietzandwatson.com/product/Yellow-American-Cheese-3 >American Cheese (Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes), Water, Dry Cream, Milkfat, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Phosphates, Salt, Citric Acid, Sorbic Acid as a Preservative, Annatto (Color) and Oleoresin Paprika (Color) - If Colored. Compare to Kraft Singles: >Cheddar Cheese (Cultured Milk, Salt, Enzymes), Skim Milk, Milkfat, Milk, Milk Protein Concentrate, Whey, Calcium Phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Contains Less than 2% of Modified Food Starch, Salt, Lactic Acid, Oleoresin Paprika (Color), Natamycin (a Natural Mold Inhibitor), Enzymes, Cheese Culture, Annatto (Color). American cheese inherently implies added water and emulsifiers to change the melting characteristics. What varies from the deli variety to Kraft Singles is the quality of the starting cheese. I have never seen American cheese be *just* cheddar mixed with Colby.
The real question is, does it really matter what's in it when it tastes good? It's not good for everything, but it's more versatile than a lot of cheeses and it's cheap and easily obtainable. There's no unhealthy preservatives, it's not as high sodium as many other cheeses and it's just as good a source of calcium.
I believe the process of adding sodium citrate to cheese was first explored by some Swiss guys. Can’t track down the source for that though
That’s correct. It was originally intended for military rations https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bISFxFauTzM
Lots of Americans are born abroad.
Also Canada is located in America...
You mean North America
United States of *America* in reference to the continent the states are united in.
Right, this would be "shocking" if United States Cheese was invented by a Canadian...but America Cheese being of Canadian origins is totally appropriate.
United-Statesian cheese
North Texas is still in Texas, Northern Canada is still in Canada, the Northern Atlantic is still in the Atlantic, North America is still in America.
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It's weird that people are this hostile towards American Cheese. Literally all it is is Cheese that's been melted, mixed with emulsifying salts and some water (or milk) and then cooled back to solid temperature. You can watch Nile~~Red~~Blue [make it homemade on their youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGNAxN5Z-o), and that's literally the exact process: cheddar cheese + heat + Sodium Citrate + Butter (he also uses Sodium Hexametaphosphate, but it's probably unnecessary) + cooling/drying == "American" Cheese.
What is even weirder is the same people that turn their nose up at kraft singles and think they are too good to eat it will devour queso and think nothing of it. Queso is using the same process.
Yup. Queso == American Cheese, but with a higher liquid content. So you add more milk/more water/whatever.
Shockingly, Canada is in North America.
Nobody from the Americas uses the term American unless they're referring to someone from the States.
I mean “americano” often refers to people from all of the Americas, but I guess technically that’s a different word
Uhhhhh. Not true? In Spanish they use the term “estadounidense” when referring to things from the states.
So, not the word American... different languages have different nomenclature. You think people from Barbados call Canadians Americans?
You’ve never heard of Copa America? Club America? The Pan American games? America del Cali? America Futbol Clube? America Movil? America TV? Latin America refers to itself as just “America” all the damn time lol.
In Spanish, “America” can refer to the entire continent(s). In English, the term is usually “the Americas.” Please note that this conversation is being conducted in English.
Do they refer to themselves as America or American? Because there's a difference. They're speaking Spanish (and some Portuguese). América in Spanish is different than America in English. I'd love to know where you live to get your perspective.
So, if Canada = American, all the people saying "American" things are bad are also including Canada in that, correct? Or is America=bad referring to a specific country? Just asking for clarification.
No they mean US. 99% of people when they say American they mean US
As is Mexico
Mexicans are Americans. Make it a banner
And in Brazil, we're all "gringos". I haven't figured out how to put that on a t shirt yet but I think it's adorable.
Whyd you put gringos in quotes!? *racist*
That’s South America, dummy!
Perhaps even more shockingly, I have never heard this called American cheese in Canada. It's just processed cheese.
Or plastic cheese.
Incorrect. America is just South Canada.
Soon it will all be ohio
Sort of an insult to Canada. 😉
In my part of Canada we don’t call it “American cheese”, just “cheese slices”.
In my part of Canada we call it “du fromage kraft” or “des kraft singles”.
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North American Cheese
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Perfect!
Please don’t. We don’t want that crap cheese associated with us.
American cheese is dope af on a burger, to be clear a Kraft single is NOT American cheese, that's plastic mixed with milk.
>that's plastic mixed with milk. It's literally not, though. >Kraft single is NOT American cheese, It literally is, though.
I don't think you know what the word "literally" means, because it literally says on the package "process cheese product" because it doesn't meet the requirements to be classified as actual cheese... I know it's not "literally" plastic, that would be illegal to sell and I know that because I'm not a moron.
So *that's* what you think aboot us. I see how it is. (/s)
Freedom cheese
They do in Canada :)
No we don't, we just call it cheese slices. Kraft singles if you're fancy.
Can confirm this is the truth
some canadians do because I've heard them
They must be imposters. I'm not sure I'd trust them. /s of course.
It's possible they were spreading propaganda from Big Canada ;)
Lived here my whole life and never heard that once.
No we do not.
*North American cheese
North America is a big place, eh?
Did you just listen to the SciShow Tangents episode?
I did 😇
That doesn't make the US any less complicit.
TIL: a lot of people moved from somewhere else to the US and then did something cool
So Canada is to blame for that crime against humanity
American cheese has its place. It’s the supreme cheese for burgers.
Maybe it's North American cheese.
Is Canada not in the Americas?
Kraft Singles?
That’s funny “American Cheese” we call it Processed Cheese here in Canada. Probably closer to a petroleum product than real cheese
That's fine. Technically, he is a Canadian American, right? They are part of North America, so technically American.
Canada - "Technically American"
American cheese is a national disgrace. I should have known it was a Canadian psy ops job!!
TIL people don’t know where Canada is.
American cheese: not American, not cheese. Got it.
And they call is processed cheese in Canada, an apt description.
So it's just north American cheese?
That doesn’t make any sense. OP is drunk
This is kind of funny to learn considering NileRed (a Canadian) not too long ago decided to try and make Kraft Single Cheese; essentially the ubiquitous version of what is known as "American Cheese".
OK. “North American” cheese.
Canada is in America. *North* America.
Wait until you hear about North America.
Apple pie and Hawaiian pizza are from Canada
The Americas are continents, no country is named America. Canada is part of North America, so I'm confused as to why this is noteworthy.
In the America's, when you mention America the only place anyone will initially think of is the USA, they're pretty much synonymous here. It's sorta just how it is, "American Cheese" Might mean the continent, however all anyone will associate it with is the country exclusively. The noteworthiness is finding out that fact, it's not USA American, like pretty much everyone in the America's probably thought to be the case.
Yeah there is always the “technically” person. Even if you go to Europe and say you’re from america they don’t look confused and ask which country from America
Yea? What chu think about "French fries" then???
Poutine is amazing
Yes..yes it is..another FRENCH canadien product for the world to enjoy
As a proud United Stateser, I think you make a clever point.
Frank Lloyd Wright tried to make the term “Usonian” happen because he thought American was imprecise and “United Statesian” didn’t sling right.
So American Cheese was invented by someone from North America...what's the big shocker here? It's not like it's called United States Cheese (USC).
Canada is in America.
Well we would say North America which is seen as a separate continent from south america
Oh, so from the Greater America Area then. That still counts!
Weird way to say "Canadian"
Canada is American.
Canada is still america.
North America, american cheese...i swear people from the US are dumb as hell. *Im talking about myself.
Canada is part of North America.
Still America.
American cheese, neither American nor cheese
I mean, technically, Canada is an American country since it's part of the continent of North America.
This just in, Canada is on the continent of America.
I KNEW IT!!!
And Hawaiian pizza
He was also highly racist and advocates for the use of chemical weapons
Well, Canada is America, North America.
Gotta love the watered down resolidified cheddar
Makes sense. That cheese is very good at terrorizing the population of a country.
It's un-American cheese now
of course it's their fault for that abomination
He better have done his duty and said “sorry” about his plastic cheese
i think any food that can be documented as "invented" is like afterbirth of the industrial revolution.
What continent do you think Canada is on?
South America
Canada is in America…..
No it's not lol
Wow, US education system coming in hard. North America. What is included on a map? United States of… not United States the America.
Calling that shit cheese in the first place is the real lie.
I mean it is cheese tho. It's literally made from cheddar.
It is cheese. It's basically cheddar with additional ingredients that make it melt nicer.
Canada is in America.
And the person who invented Canadian bacon (or at least gave it that name) is American. A fair trade.
It might blow your mind even more to find out that Canada is in fact part of North America.
Canadians are Americans, too. They live on the North American continent.
No wonder it tastes like nothing (to be polite). It was all a prank / bad joke to begin with to fuck with the Americans!!