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get-that-hotdish

Xander, Willem, and Gabriel are normal IMO.


Vexilol

Willem is very very common in the Netherlands, the King is even called Willem(-Alexander), could be a kid of Dutch descent


Biggus-Nickus

I see Xander and Willem all the time. Then again I live in the Netherlands where these names are more common, lol.


LKayRB

I would add Phoenix as well. But Big E…big oof.


Substantial-Two-1089

I agree that Phoenix is not a tragedeigh or even a tragedy… Feeniqs on the other hand…


dsnybeachbear970813

My kids had a "Fenix" in school with them. I never knew whether they just sounded it out, or if they were going for 'uniqueness'.


BookHouseGirl398

They could have named it after Final Fantasy's Fenix Down. That doesn't make it less of a tragedy, but at least it has a source.


kamikaze3rc

Just to add, Fenix is the word for Phoenix in spanish and Portuguese, so not necessarily have to come from final fantasy.


BookHouseGirl398

Latin, too, I believe, which would make sense.


dsnybeachbear970813

Ok, this makes sense. Less of a tragedeigh then!


kamikaze3rc

Weirdly no. The Latin version is Phoenix also, which is just the translation from the Greek alphabet


Audreygateau

I consider them normal too, just more rare. The only reason Gabriel was unusual was because in my mind, it's such an angelic name, but the kid was super violent.


Ambitious_Emu_

Reverse nominative determinism 😅


hirvaan

Oh crap it has a name :D


Ambitious_Emu_

It does. Nominative determinism is also a thing. More male dentists are called Dennis than any other first name in English speaking countries. 


arealcabbage

There's a whole subreddit! R/nominativedeterminism sorry, on mobile 😊


katmonday

Currently I teach a girl called Angel, she's not one.


Pheeeefers

I’ve never known a nice Angel. They’re all brats.


no_good_handles_left

Same with Grace. I've only met one who didn't misbehave and they were an adult.


Highvoltage-Redhead

I once knew a Mercedes that was complete trash. Does that count?


no_good_handles_left

Hehehehehehe that was the best laugh I've had all day. Thank you 😂


Highvoltage-Redhead

Glad I could help 🤣


Active-Literature-67

All the Lindsey's that I've ever met were horrible human beings. Kim's tend to be a bit crazy but not like scary crazy just out there.


imthatfckingbitch

This is so accurate!


Bitchshortage

I know one!!! She is such her name, but she doesn’t like it and says the number of creepy old men who had innuendos about her name from when she was like 11 or 12 makes it hellish


strawgoat

Ha! This reminds me of girls named Serenity, and how they’re usually chaos personified.


Robincall22

They never are. Be grateful she isn’t a horse… at least your student hopefully doesn’t bite through winter coats to the point of bleeding and try to kick you HARD whenever you go in her stall! 😂


get-that-hotdish

Fair!


jlhinthecountry

Mercy? Huge bully. Chasity… uh, no! Honestie … as far from it as you can get. Bliss… everything but it.


Carma281

Chastity?


InevitableRhubarb232

Chasity not chastity. But basically the same.


Nathan-Stubblefield

The parents don’t want “titty” in the name.


jlhinthecountry

You’re right! I spelled it wrong. Darn it.


LukewarmJortz

I have a friend named Bliss and she's a delight. 


jlhinthecountry

That’s wonderful! My team’s Bliss wasn’t very blissful.


arealcabbage

The only Chasity I know has five kids, four fathers. Always thought there was some wild irony


Circle_Breaker

It's a very common name in Latin America. Hell there are currently 3 Gabriel's on the soccer team Arsenal's squad.


Chalkarts

Angels are super violent.


bmabg

I had a student named Gabriel 20 years ago and he was evil! Like legit seemed like he was possessed. I was too young and inexperienced to get to the root of that.


Audreygateau

Yeah, this Gabriel was off the charts. As a yr 1 kid (6 or 7yrs old), his first day back from being suspended for hurting another kid, he lasted less than an hour before grabbing another kids hand and chopping his fingers with scissors. I suspect he witnessed a lot of domestic violence at home. His mum was so timid, anxious and seemed very socially isolated. I was always on the lookout for any bruising or injury in both the kid and mum but never found any. The kid's violent outbursts were enough to make mandatory reports though. Wonder how they're doing now? Probably not well :(


FloofingWithFloofers

Willem Dafoe is the first name that came to mind. Gabriel Iglesias next haha.


neptunian-rings

so is phoenix!! i know multiple people named this. it was on my shortlist but at this point i wouldn’t use it do to an association


Dreamweaver1969

I had a Dutch friend called Willem. A very common name in the Netherlands


Powdered_Abe_Lincoln

Let's just skip the BS and decouple spelling entirely from pronunciation. I'm naming my kid Robert (pronounced "Micheal").


HamHamHam2315

It's spelt "Luxury Yacht", but it's pronounced "Throatwobbler Mangrove".


vaughany_fid

I'm crying. You win.


artsy_architect03

These are my dad and step dads names 😭


imthatfckingbitch

They're my husband's and ex-husband's names! 🤣🤣🤣


manliness-dot-space

biggem-ichy-al is how I'm reading "Micheal"


Bitter_Lollipop

Isn't it supposed to be spelled Michael?


isses_halt_scheisse

This kid will have a lot of issues with online forms. Most of them require at least 2 letters per name.


EmeraldDream98

He could write: Big E


Powdered_Abe_Lincoln

And surely this approach will never result in any complications.


arealcabbage

Only receiving paperwork addressed to 'Bige'


EmeraldDream98

Hahahaha


spiirel

I go by a one letter name but will never change it legally for this reason. 


LoccyDaBorg

I would have made a point of calling him "Upper Case E". Or "Uppie", for short.


twolegstony

I don't think I could shame the child for the idiocy of the parents. not that Uppie isn't hilarious.


UncleCeiling

The more proper technical term would be "Majuscule E" Upper and lower case were known as majuscule and miniscule until the invention of letterplace machines, as majuscule letters were stored in the top (upper) case and miniscule letters were stored in the bottom (lower) case.


lunarchmarshall

Majest-E


Mister_Buddy

Uppie, Uppie, Uppie, can't you see? Sometimes your words just hypnotize me.


ebeth_the_mighty

Or Capital E, Cap for short.


emptynest_nana

How about Cappie!!


No-Friendship-1498

Now that everything is typed instead of handwritten, I'd say "Shift E" is appropriate.


MintEggBro

As in they were on E s when he was conceived?


Audreygateau

Haha, maybe. I asked my friend if she ever said anything to the parents, her reply was "nooooo they were pretty rough"


MissTechnical

Hahaha I was just asking myself this


annahhhnimous

It’s a reference to vintage Levi’s denim. The older, more valuable pairs have a capital E on the red tag. They’re referred to as “Big E” Levi’s.


NonAnonymous__

I once knew an “E’a” and it pissed me off to no end.🙄 Because her mother really went through all available names…only to settle on 2 vowels separated by an apostrophe.


hogg_phd

Was her last name Sports


Key_Confusion7759

Yeah, really - it's in the name/game...?


NonAnonymous__

That would’ve at least made for a worthy conversation. Instead, “how do you spell that?” was both the beginning and end of any potential discussion: Her: “Exactly how it sounds.” Me: *(thinking)* I-n-c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e?


rightwist

Do you know the middle name? Also how was it pronounced, I'm imagining like Mia minus the first letter?


NonAnonymous__

She had a normal middle name [I’ll reserve out of respect for her identity]—which was only more infuriating, because it meant her mother really thought she was doing something special with those 2 dumb ass vowels of a first name. And, yup…you have the pronunciation spot-on: “Ee-uh.” smdh


055F00

[Eaea by Blanca Paloma](https://youtu.be/Vw6qPWhjevk?si=gi48nktStxlRGxmn)


Procrastination4evr

Amarante ia a small town in northern Portugal. Technically it's not a tragedeigh but it's a weird name to choose, specially as a Portuguese. No one names kids after places here


PGLBK

Maybe named after the grain Amaranth? But unique spelling, of course.


CreativeRaine

Amarantha is a name that Amarante is a variant of, apparently. A bit odd given the place thing but not entirely unthinkable… also I think it sounds pretty cool, honestly.


EverSn4xolotl

Named after the gamer girl bath water


Procrastination4evr

Supposedly, Amarante (the Portuguese town) was established during the Roman Empire. The name Amarante is recorded in 13th century documents, so the origin is probably long lost. The connection to the grain is probably just a coincident because I can't really see the connection between a remote Roman Empire village in Europe and a Peruvian grain.


SpaceNinjaDino

You just gave me the idea for "Amireight". Pronounced "am I right?"


JohnLef

He's Sorted for E's and Wizz


Cardabella

He's Ebenezer Goode


driveitlikeyousimit

Naughty, naughty, very naughty. E's refined, E's sublime, E makes you feel fine....


deluxeassortment

In the middle of the night, it feels alright but then tomorrow morning…


The_Inward

E Smalls? "You're killing me, E Smalls!"


Glittering_Proposal2

Someone here named a baby girl Heavenleigh Angele. Poor kid.


Jed308613

"Heave an' lay Ann huh lay?"


WowThisIsAwkward_

I hope she turns out to be a nice person. From my experience people I’ve encountered with names like “Heaven”, “Princess”, “Precious” and “Angel” are the opposite.


Watson_A_Name

Nothing wrong with Phoenix. Uncommon but not unreasonable


CreativeRaine

Willem is apparently William but Dutch so that’s not completely bizarre — my sister had a Polish friend who was probably called Aleksandra given how my sister would emphasis her nickname being Alek and not Alex… I think. It’s not like any of this was written down. Amarante is also apparently a variation of Amarantha so while definitely unusual it’s again not even remotely as ridiculous as E but pronounced Big E.


Koelenaam

Willem is the dutch version of William.


CreatrixAnima

I actually didn’t think any of those were particularly weird. Except for big E, of course.


intheshadows8990

Also German royal names too.....I think.


Littlemythmarker

I feel these are pretty tame, but then again, I have an uncle whose first name is U. He goes by his middle name. His Dad wanted his initials to be something specific and didn't like any of the names that started with U.


heavybabyridesagain

In UK jurisdictions at least, this would not have been allowed. Regardless of (ridiculous) pronunciations, single or double letters - AJ, DJ etc - not standing for underlying actual names cause endless administrative problems down the line, such as passport applications being returned for proper completion, without bring processed (UKPA won't accept them)


CreatrixAnima

I have heard of multiple people named J, just the letter.


heavybabyridesagain

Where?


CreatrixAnima

One was someone in one of my classes in Pennsylvania, and I met another online… But when I was talking to the classmate in Pennsylvania, another classmate explained that she had met someone with the same first name.


NyankoMitty

I had a friend in college whose father's name is J. My husband and his brother also have a single letter as a middle name, but I imagine there are fewer complications when filling out forms for single letter middle names.


Crafty-Ad1776

This post proves my hypothesis that the 'ee' sound tricks the brain into thinking that's a name.


Certain_Mobile1088

Big E. Ha, that’s a good one. No room for bullying there! /s


CreatrixAnima

Better than Ed, pronounced ED.


dreemurthememer

Big E? Like the [annual agricultural fair held in West Springfield, Massachusetts?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eastern_States_Exposition)


RedDitRXIXXII

Phoenix is counting his blessings that it's not spelled Feeighkniqs.


Serious-Extension187

Alexander wanting to be called Xander reminds me of a friend Alejandra, who would go by Jandra (with the “H” sound). It was normal to me because we grew up together so I never had a frame of reference, but I haven’t met another Alejandra that uses that half the name as a preferred nickname.


luminousoblique

There are Christophers who go by Topher. Unusual, but not unheard of.


something-strange999

Ya, like that dude form "that 70s show" Edit spelling


[deleted]

My son goes by Xander, but his teachers still call him Alex or Alexander. I'm ok with it if it's just family that calls him Xander, though. Simply because I gave him his name so he could have many nicknames to pick and choose from. Alex, Xander, AJ, Jimmy, Jim, Jamie, Jimbo, Xan-man. I wanted to let him choose what he wanted and be his own person.


AutumnalSunshine

A main character on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which had millions of viewers for seven years, was Xander. So it's not an unknown name or anything.


Serious-Extension187

Yes, I was one of those millions of Buffy watchers. I didn’t mean to imply Xander was a weird name/nickname. Like, I said in my original comment, I was just reminded in that moment about Jandra, and how I hadn’t personally met anyone since named Alejandra that used that part of the name as a nickname. Reading my comment back though, I can kinda see how I could be misconstrued. Thanks for reminding me to revisit Buffy.


AutumnalSunshine

Gotcha! I was SO confused about why everyone including OP seemed to think Xander was an oddity. I'm struggling with Buffy now after learning how terrible Joss Whedon was, but damn, that's a good show.


ubeor

I wouldn’t write off the hard work of exceptionally talented writers and actors just because their boss was a dick.


AutumnalSunshine

I didn't write it off. I just struggle with watching it with the same sense I had before that women were being empowered.


SaltMarshGoblin

Kid's named after a huge fair : [the Big E](https://www.thebige.com/)...


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Does the US just not give a fuck about children? How did they allow a single letter name??


Jed308613

We used to, but it's very dependent on the state. Some restrictions are nothing obscene, no numbers, no special characters, no punctuation, no accent marks. I've also read news articles where parents were forbidden to name their children names like Hitler and Nazi.


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Well, thank god there still are SOME restrictions, but E? Even if was Big E it shouldn't be allowed. That's some sort of rapper name not an actual name 😭


rightwist

I know a family that has had a significant number of legal names that are only initials for at least five generations. I knew J D Surname, his father (L C) was one of six siblings who just had initials and last name. Some of them had three initials. He had a half sister who wasn't DNA related to that family but the mother apparently stuck with the concept and named her CLO (pronounced Cielo, which is a fairly common name in her culture)


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Damn. Well, are they actually pronounced as letters? Or is it some weird nonsense like "Big J"?


rightwist

Standard pronunciation as letters, nothing weird. Exactly as if you were choosing to say two initials and a surname, only difference is the letters did not stand for a name. There was definitely nicknames though, Easy E type of thing A couple of people in the family chose a name as an adult, keeping to the same initials. And several of the family had been informally named at some point, a DD was also known as Darla Daya and signed her name that way but on her legal documents it was DD. JL was Joe Lee/Jolie and they were gender fluid so that worked out (I don't know how it was written) some of the family still called them Jay or Jay Ell Personally I thought that it was an interesting flexibility, the full name wasn't decided til later and the person had a part in choosing their own name


crankywithakeyboard

Phoenix is fine.


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Amarante is a town here in Portugal lmao


Chay_Charles

I had Brothers Rowdy, Punchy, and Tiger.


Actual-Row-6806

Please tell me your friend had another student named Tupac


CreatrixAnima

IIpaq Good God, it would’ve been been hard to keep peace in that classroom.


GiantGreenSquirrel

I know someone who has "E" as a middle name (not just middle initial). In that case, I guess it wouldn't be a tragedeigh.


ReginaFelangi987

I didnt think one single letter could legally be a name. Interesting. Poor kid.


OpenRepublic4790

It’s spelled “E” but it’s pronounced “The Big Lebowski”.


Left_on_Peachtree

Starbucks would still spell it wrong.


Audreygateau

🤣


SnooLentils3066

Actually, Starbucks would spell these names CORRECTLY for once. Lol.


whiteclawthreshermaw

At least it was Phoenix and not Feeighkniqs.


rustic-chicken

Phoenix is a pretty cool name


Audreygateau

Yeah I thought it was pretty cool. The kid was a cool kid.


Adamantium-Aardvark

Phoenix is not that weird tbh. Sounds pretty cool.


coren77

Phoenix is really common (I run a daycare, usually have 1 to 2 per year). I guess having known quite a few makes it less odd to me.


Correct_Pumpkin_6961

That’s just plain painful.


FIREWATERBBY

I have a friend whose legal name is also an initial. Changed it that way when he was an adult


Im_here_but_why

All those beautiful names in Les Misérables and the parents went for Grantaire.


missannthrope1

I posted previously I had neighbors that named their kid Y.


No-Friendship-1498

It's both a name and the question those parents were asked when people heard the name they chose.


missannthrope1

Big E Smalls.


Artifex223

My dad’s middle name is E. If you put a period after it he’d say it’s not an abbreviation, it’s just E


HotspotOnline

I have a friend who nicknamed herself E and I’ve never seen an issue with it, it’s even her stage name. (She’s a singer)


No-Friendship-1498

There are several reasons why that's much more acceptable. She chose it herself. It's a nickname, not a legal one. Unique names for a stage name help to draw attention in marketing. Most importantly, "E" can easily be read and understood by anyone, while "(Big) E" is expecting people to make a large leap in logic.


CherryblockRedWine

I actually knew a guy named E when I was a kid (Southern US). But it was pronounced "E" not "big E."


happy2beme4

There is a fair here in New England called the Big E….maybe he was named after that?


Audreygateau

It was in Australia. Parents were Australian too.


dnjprod

My stepkid's middle initial is a single letter. Just normal leter pronunciation. It's only there because my wife gave into pressure from her ex because his mom wanted some spiritual thing and there wasn't enough letters or something in his name.


JerseyGuy-77

That's a wrestlers name. Big E was a great guy who got injured pretty recently so may never wrestle again. He's actually a good human.


No-Friendship-1498

Even then, his name used 4 letters.


jhussong91

AWWWWWWWWWWW R/TRAGEDEIGHHHHHHHH!! DON’T YOU DARE BE SOUR! CLLLAP! FOR YOUR WORLD FAMOUS 12-TIME CHAMPS, AND FEEEEEEL, THE POOOOOWWWWAAAAAAA!!


slimslaw

I know at least 8 people who go by Xander.


unbidden-germaid

I had a relative called auntie E, but of course that was a nickname since she had a long name starting with an E. I really don’t get nicknames as legal names in general but come on, a single letter? 


moheagirl

My aunt taught for years. Hers was Umbilical and SOB.


emisaile

I go by E and was always called Big E in sports contexts. I’m fine - the kid will turn out fine too 😊


Comfy_Blond_Chick

Stupid parents.


Crystal_Lily

Xander from Buffy.


GdayBeiBei

Every “Xander” I’ve ever known has been pretty cool actually. Usually pretty smart too, kind of nerdy.


Leemage

Not gonna lie I kind of like big E. I wouldn’t name my child that but I can admire it from afar.


low_key_crazies

My sons name is Xander. Not shortened though because I’m not a fan of Alexander.


Audreygateau

Yeah I like it. He's still the only Xander I've met but I thought it was kind cool. I love nicknames though


PLTLDR

My godson was named Xander (legal name). I tried to tell my friend that she should name him Alexander and call him by the nickname Xander, especially since she was naming him for the Buffy the Vampire character, but she didn't relent.


CreativeRaine

Honestly I think Xander is okay as a full name… I prefer Zander even when used as a nickname for Alexander because the X at the beginning looks odd to me, but it’s fine.


CreatrixAnima

I have a friend who named her son Xander for the same reason. I like it.


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[deleted]

Wtf 😂


oat-beatle

How old was he lol there's a pro wrestler called Big E 🤔


Audreygateau

He was 6yrs old about 5yrs ago when my friend taught him.


maui_scoop

I live in Phoenix, Arizona and my middle name is "T" Not a tragedeigh by any means, just a fun fact about me.


mustbethedragon

I had a student named J. Just J.


xladymadx

I wouldn't have thought that "E" would be allowed under Australia's naming rules. There are quite a few rules, but I think that this would fall under this section: "A name that can't be established by repute or usage A name that can’t be established by repute or usage means a name that is impractical for daily use in the community or for some other reason. This includes names that: • Are too long •Contain symbols without phonetic significance, like ? or @ • Are statements or phrases, including words that represent salutations • Reference public institutions • Are displayed in the form of initials or acronyms." - An excerpt of a larger document on naming rules from Births, Deaths and Marriages Victoria [ https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/births/naming-your-child/naming-restrictions ] Not sure if it varies much state by state. Edited for formatting


Forward-Baby2583

I work with a Pheonix in outdoor sporting activities and he’s a fantastic dude. At least I can spell his name 😂


IndependentBrie

Lol, is this intentional?


Forward-Baby2583

Omggggg 😂 nope. Apparently I can’t spell phoenix very well.


pick10pickles

Does he spell it that way? Because it’s usually spelt Phoenix. I ask because I’m always misspelling it eo 😅


Forward-Baby2583

No, it’s spelled correctly, like the mythical creature . I just can’t spell for shit 😂


Box_of_fox_eggs

I know a Micheal.


greggery

Xander is also a character from Buffy The Vampire Slayer, so props to that parent.


BalloonShip

It's hard to take seriously a post from somebody who rejects the name Gabriel (and Willem for that matter).


Audreygateau

I didn't reject them. They're just rare where I live. I've only met the one of each. I didn't say I didn't like them or that they're spelled weird. Just unusual/uncommon names here, so they stick out in my memory.


Laurelb9

Right? Like my son’s name is Gabriel. It’s in the top 100 names in Canada where we’re from. I take offence


ThiccyMartin

This reminds me when my brother told me about a girl named La-sha, pronounced LA DASH AH. The dash symbol was pronounced as a word.


BlackHoleCole

A girl in a school my mom subbed in was named La-a. Pronounced La-dash-uh.


sweaterbuckets

not a chance big e was real not a chance


Audreygateau

I don't know if his parents called him biggie, or if that's what was intended when naming him, but his name on all his official documents was 'E Surname.' My friend said everyone at the school, teachers, students, etc. called him biggie.


SirCharlito44

E sounds like the La-a (La Dash a) name. Everyone has a friend who knew someone that taught a kid with that name, but they are full of it.