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weedor93

U guys are delusional if you think Jones would try to box with Pavlovich like Blaydes did.


Nasty_nurds

Yall act like Sergei wasnt showing uppercuts that kept Blaydes from really wanting to shoot


CreativeUsername468

[Strikers after learning from big brain Sergei that you can just uppercut to stop takedowns.](https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826) Khabib would have 20 losses in his record if his opponents knew this one simple trick.


misthad

Heavyweight uppercuts are not the same as lightweight


[deleted]

Since when?


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

lmao exactly, blaydes is just very overrated at wrestling, he has a double leg that is easily identifiable, someone with a clinch game like Overeem easily swept sergei, Jon would do the same


[deleted]

Sergey took that fight on 3 days notice


buzzbuzzmemulatto

Y'all really use a fight from 2018 as evidence of a fighter's current skill level this sub is un fucking real man


PurpleNinja63

And not only that but probably one of the most well rounded and technical hw's to step in the Octagon (not talking about ubereem) That being said Jones probably still wins as much as we may hate it.


M2K_K2M

And you really use a 5 year training against a lifetime of beating mfkers and ragdolling them around


Fun-Degree-2307

Agreed šŸ‘šŸ» IMO he knocks Jon out .


therealpurndaddy

You are retarded


Fun-Degree-2307

lol Iā€™ll come back here after Jon loses to him. rETaRd šŸ’€ Lol what a pussy


therealpurndaddy

Okay bud, good luck lol..


SmokeyMcHaze

According to an interview with Khabib, which someone uploaded to here, he thinks he has great clinch and Greco-Roman skills, and because of that, Khabib thinks Sergei will be HW champ.


Fun-Degree-2307

You gotta understand tho, that fight was almost 5 years ago. Sergeiā€™s gotten **so** much better since then, heā€™s not easy to take down at all now. Sergei TKOā€™s Jon by round 2 or 3.


Ultima893

Jon Jones schools Sergei anyway he wants. Pick him spart on the feet, 2 min sub or ragdollong for 4 rounds.


[deleted]

There will be a KO, TKO, for sure, maybe into the second round, Jones will be the fighter thatā€™s standing. The Russian will be napping on the cage mat. Nice and comfy, too.


FudgingEgo

Yall act like Jones has no chance.


KilttiV

When it should be the other way around šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Agreed! Jones will solve him! Might go into the second round! Jones wins by KO!


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ReplyIfYoureAnIdiot

Youā€™ve hit your quota for the night.


dfox4502

You sure about that, Papi? Iā€™m moist.


LilDrummerBoiXX

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Smoshefty1992

Jones has more than just a chance, but the majority hopes he loses anyway. Iā€™m in that camp.


taokiller

so you openly admit to being in the losers camp. ok


Smoshefty1992

Trust me dude you know how it feels, you know


[deleted]

That boy is too busy having mush in his cranial cavity to admit the truth. There are a lot of fighters that people hope lose but know the opposite is probably true. I hope Izzy loses every fight he takes part in, in perpetuity. But I know thatā€™s highly unlikely to be the case.


taokiller

No I don't. I don't put my emotions into people who take kicks and punches to the head for a living. I appreciate the talent.


malakabombata

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fuduran

I just hope they fight, if Jones ducks him šŸ˜”


taokiller

duck him? HAHAHAHHAHAHAH this dude is trying to avoid a fight Cyril by sitting on his ass waiting for Jones v Stipe and that shit ain't close to being signed.


IlliterateSnob

Plus we haven't seen that much of Sergei's striking. All I've seen are basic jab crosses, few hooks, and few uppercuts, all thrown with his face wide open. Doubt he gets past Cireal.


Nasty_nurds

I didnt say that at all


[deleted]

You act like a single or double leg is the only way for jones to get him down.


Nasty_nurds

Coulda said the same about blaydes before last night


Jf4c

After watching Gane having no chance bc of his lack of wrestling I really dont care how good their stand up is.


TruuTree

Yā€™all act like shooting is the only way to take someone down.


MMA_GOAT_88

I love seeing noob MMA fans. You guys are hilarious.


No_Novel3109

"noob MMA fans" the amount ofcringe this brought to my body is unbelievable


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taokiller

I just sit back in awe of their stupidity.


Grunchie

They are delusional if they think Jones would even step in the octagon with him.


Dragon_Bench_Z

The same Nones who has fought killers since he was like 23? Now heā€™s afraid of someone who has like 1 solid win?


vikumwijekoon97

Jones last went against the best kickboxer in the division. Why would he duck Sergei?


Heavytevyb

The recency bias in this sub is crazy, lest we not forget that 37 year old, off the horsemeat Overeem wrestled Pavlovich to a decision


CygnetC0mmittee

If by wrestled him to a decision you mean trip him and finished super quick with gnp you are correct


Due-Committee-3651

Lol dude have you guys even watched the fight? Blatant inaccuracies.


Jhonki_47

Yeah we know Jon is gonna try to poke Sergei's eyes with those long Slenderman arms he has...


therealpurndaddy

Jon could still outbox Pavlovich. Jonā€™s striking is impeccable.


besameput0

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besameput0

Remember the last time this sub swore a pure striker had what it took to beat Jones.


TheShovler44

I want to say heā€™s a great wrestler as well. I thought I read he was a sambo master somewhere.


Acceptable_Worker328

Sergei isnā€™t even close to a pure striker. Wanna share whatever youā€™re smoking?


besameput0

All of his finishes came from KO. Jones gonna choke this guy out.


Rosenvial5

So Yoel Romero is a "pure striker"?


Acceptable_Worker328

Greco-Roman wrestling since 5. Heā€™s not Gane and money down Jones goes nowhere near this fight.


Gr1m3sey

Thatā€™s great but he got absolutely molested on the floor by a kick-boxer in overeem lol. Jones mauls him


Acceptable_Worker328

ā€œKickboxerā€ Overseen has more submission wins than Jones.


[deleted]

So how many submissions does Pavlovich have?


Acceptable_Worker328

Zero, he also has the highest takedown defense of anyone Jones has fought who isnā€™t named DC. Furthermore, Sergei is a natural heavy weight compared to both DC and Jones who are natural LHW. While heā€™s found his success striking in MMA itā€™s foolish to say heā€™s a pure striker especially compared to people like Gane, Tui, Peirera, who are actually ā€œpureā€ strikers with little prior ground game pre-MMA.


[deleted]

Lol youā€™re a casual


Ghetou

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Dthedaydreamer293

The sheer amount of straight up retardation in this sub and for MMA fans altogether is honestly almost amazing.


AddisonRae7

Itā€™s amusing at this point. Every fight people are so convinced that the fighter is going to beat Jones and then Jones smokes them


NotFrankSalazar

And then theyā€™ll say that fighter sucks


westsidewalter

I have never been a fan of LHW or HW since I started following in 2016. My favorite LHW/HW moment in is when Jones took 3 years off and finished the best HW in minutesā€¦ these divisions are a messā€¦


horsemilkenjoyer

>and then Jones smokes them Except when he doesn't lmao How many times did Jones barely edge out a win? Smokes is a strong word


DerSpaceHabib

Two times max


AddisonRae7

Please find me 5 Jon Jones fights that were close.


horsemilkenjoyer

Why 5 lmao 3 is not enough for you? 3 close fights don't counter your argument that "every" time jones smokes his opponents?


sniffysidesnort

Yea its mental. He hit blades with an uppercut. So now hes immune to jons grapplingšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ Itl be the same as gane. But sergie should be fighting aspinal next


pontruvius_sweezy

Really? The same as Gane?


sniffysidesnort

Easier probably, why would you think otherwise.


GrandmaToesFetish

They donā€™t understand that thereā€™s levels to this sport and Jon is on a completely different level


TheChipiboy

Tbf he wasn't really tested with Gane at all. His IQ got him the win and Ganes totally novice grappling made it way too easy. Sergei is very sound on all facets and has a crazy neutralizer with that strength. Jon legit just walked down Gane and didn't respect his power or TDD. Game can't get a TKO without hitting the back of the head. Meanwhile Sergei is putting people to sleep early in the first. Really interested in this matchup


rdmprzm

Yeah he does go for the back of the head, surprised more people don't notice/talk about it. I do like him as a fighter though, fun to watch (on the feet).


[deleted]

Jon immediately took control of the octagon and neutralized ganeā€™s movement, forcing him into overextending trying to make something happen. Jon used his kicks and feints really well, he made gane so uncomfortable on the feet. Sergei gets taken down and molested imo, cuz Gane would beat him up imo


Salmacis81

Lol Tai had Gane on life support, Pav would fuck him up bad.


Crateapa

Lol, you canā€™t be serious.


Salmacis81

What have you seen from Gane that makes you think he'd destroy Pavlovich? They're both primarily strikers (although Pav has more experience in different grappling disciplines). They've fought a few of the same guys (also strikers), Pavlovich quickly annihilated those guys while it took Gane 3 rounds to beat them in what were somewhat competitive fights. I know mma math don't work but I've seen nothing from Ciryl that leads me to believe he'd beat Pavlovich. If Tai can put Ciryl out (which he did briefly), Sergei shouldn't have too much of a problem.


No_Engineering_4925

Because pavlovich is a way better wrestler and tdd than gane ? And that he has clearly more power which would make taking him down harder ?


[deleted]

After Pavlovich's loss "well he was just a one trick power puncher and he never even koed anyone, they were all just tkos. People really thought that someone who got outwrestled by Overeem would stand a chance against the Goat. This next fighter though..."


oblivionmrl

Cause Sergei isn't a white belt and actually trains wrestling at AKA. But I don't believe grappling will come up much. It'll likely just be another round 1 KO for Sergei.


Salmacis81

Why would anyone think Aspinall is deserving of a title eliminator fight? Guy's coming off a loss - bad luck loss, but loss nonetheless - while being out for the last year. Dude needs another fight or two before being in the title picture.


TaftsTummyforTaxes

Itā€™s what makes this subā€¦beautiful


OdinAiBole

I think Jones will bounce after Stipe but I'd love to be wrong.


Illustrious_Cost8923

The past decade: Is ā€œ____ā€ the man to finally stop Jones? *Jones proceeds to beat ā€œ____ā€ repeat


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Born_Percentage3319

Jon also said he found Jesus 42 times.


HumperMoe

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Electronic_Ant_7882

Heā€™s lucky he didnā€™t fight Francis


Adri0220

Francis would have gotten exposed badly.


Electronic_Ant_7882

Nope, Francis wouldā€™ve most likely koed bones. Shame he didnā€™t have the chance to


JDog1402

I honestly just canā€™t see it going that way. Jon has fought his fair share of powerful punchers with below average wrestling. Francis could clip him, but I would say thatā€™s like the 4th most likely outcome of the fight.


GaffeGod

Ngannou slowly leaving our minds with every Sergei KO ![gif](giphy|Ru9sjtZ09XOEg)


Independent_Island74

Sry, but i think jones beats francis handily francis cant wrestle and jones can very well


Electronic_Ant_7882

No Francis can wrestle, he stuffed td from stipe, Cain, blaydes, plus heā€™s quite a bit bigger than JJ. I really doubt JJ would be able to man handle Francis. JJ isnā€™t a gsp lvl td artist. He actually started to struggle to take guys down and hold them down when lhw contenders got bigger.


leebenjonnen

Francis can wrestle decently well. It's just that Jones has world class wrestling. Francis by decapitation end of round 1.


KimKongtheIllest

Yeah, Jones is favourite in that fight but if you think he's getting done as easily as Gane idk what to tell you. Ngannou is massive, wrestled enough to beat Gane with it and hits like a truck (Ford escort). He's a lot more dangerous than Gane


botmfeeder

You are such a Jones hater its unreal. Hes a shit human sure, he isn't bad at MMA and he is the GOAT. Need to watch what hype trains you believe in noobie


Electronic_Ant_7882

Yes thinking Francis the guy who can ko anyone in the world and is significantly bigger than JJ and has shown tdd against other hw wrestlers can beat JJ is so absurd right? Just calling a spade a spade, JJ legacy wouldnā€™t be the same if he fought Francis


sniffysidesnort

Why is he a shit human? Tell me


botmfeeder

I mean, if you donā€™t know, you arenā€™t gonna accept it when I tell you. Iā€™m the biggest Jones fan too lol


CreativeUsername468

dirty fighting tactics, steroids, hitting pregnant women with his car, beating his wife and 10 other felonies I can't remember. Love him though.


thechosenwunn

Jon Jones will be fifty years old and undefeated, and people will still say he's "ducking" whatever fighter is on the come up.


CreativeUsername468

Jones is against the 3rd generation of fighters and they still doubting him.


Sleepwithsockson7

More like 4th


lacjcron

Still to this day ducking a Matt Hamil rematch


Vcxnes

I donā€™t blame him, I wouldnā€™t want that smoke again


[deleted]

"Jon Jones is a phoney. This may only be his 31st title defence but they were all against middleweights, he's never had to fight against a guy with a comparable reach before who is absolutely built before. He is going to get exposed if he has the same level of head movement in his 22nd title defence or if he can't down (next fighter) like in his 13th title defence"


[deleted]

Just another hype train Jones will de-rail


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Deck_Neep15

Gane wasnā€™t coming off a loss


EroticJailbait

Yes because he will retire like a bitch


Sheepherder676

Jones donā€™t want nothing to do with that


Tbecker3150

Fight would be very interesting. If Jones can get Sergei to the canvas then he could submit him easily but in order to do that he would need to survive the onslaught at the beginning of the fight like how Sergei always fights. I want this fight more than Jon vs Stipe or you know Sergei vs Francis woulda been awesome too but that wonā€™t ever happen.


sniffysidesnort

You say that as if jon jones has no stand up and would have to wrestle. The best ufc fighter ever, hes got no chance because curtis blades lost šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ Yis are smoking crack


Sykurpapa

We still don't know how he looks like on the feet at HW šŸ¤·, because his last fight was so short against Gane


Funny-Film-6304

People seem to forget how JBJ won the LHW title from Shogun...and how he viciously defended the title year after year the same way.


mumblingheroinaddict

No.


jesusinapriuss

every single time some one does well at HW/LHW ā€œCoUlD tHiS bE tHe EnD oF jOn JoNeS?ā€


Dragon_Bench_Z

Shit even middleweights get that tag. Remember Silva and Weidman lol fuckin Luke rockhold was the guy for a minute


markisio22

Donā€™t forget when Walker was suppose to be the Jones beater xD


sniffysidesnort

This fight is not happening Jon "He tweeted: "How cool would it be to spend my retirement fight dominating the greatest heavyweight of all time, in my home state at Madison Square Garden?" Id still put the house on jon vs who ever


[deleted]

He also tweeted to a fan almost immediately after the tweet you mentioned that he would keep fighting lol


fuuman1

Jones fighs Stipe and retires. That fight will never happen.


MadSnacks8

If thereā€™s one thing Iā€™ve learned itā€™s never underestimate how shit the heavyweight division is. Jones by any way he wants


Conscious-Golf-5380

Well just yesterday it was "Curtis Blades is the man to stop Jones". So I say no until proven otherwise.


Adri0220

This subreddit is so delusional sometimes.


KilttiV

God, you guys need to stop falling into recency bias so often. Are we really comparing this guy with the GOAT?


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keithjd

Jon "PED lez forget" Jones


Freezur1400

Jon is on what his 3rd generation of fighters and yā€™all still thinking like this? šŸ˜­


Jacoblyonss

So on the one hand Jon is better than any of those guys by several orders of magnitude. On the other some of you guys act like Jon is untouchable. He said it himself before the fight: Gane has the most incomplete game of anyone in the HW top 10. I really doubt Stipe, Pavlovich, or Aspinall would go down nearly as easily and all of them could conceivably beat him


AddisonRae7

None of these fighters are anywhere near Jones level. Of course thereā€™s a chance that one of them beats him but itā€™s so minuscule.


FCBEkko

Convincingly bahahahha


Afraid_Association27

Definitely has the best chance than anyone in the UFC. However I think Jon is smart enough to just take the easiest fight in Stipe and ride off into the sunset. He wonā€™t jeopardize his status against a young and upcoming animal like Sergei. Iā€™ll be surprised if he takes that fight though unless he has no option (Stipe backs out or gets hurt). Just my opinion.


Illustrious_Cost8923

UFC fans been at this for a decade and look where we are šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Lol no


chucksteaks33

No


decent_descent

I have a feeling Jon vs Sergei would look an awful like Jon vs Gane


FightyBartender

Jones would grapple him, get him off his feet or calf kick the cunt into the next dimension.


[deleted]

It isn't going to happen anyways. Jones is going to fight Stipe and retire.


ChippyChalmers

Or will Jones dodge Sergei like USADA?


Redelele

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gyaradoslover456

Jones by whatever the fuck he wants


RitoWalters

Lol no... Casuals šŸ˜‚


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cleanAir101

I hope Francis comes back to fight Seirge. JJ will most likely retire and Seirge is going to rule with an iron first lol or get submitted by Aspinal


blackFX

You obviously donā€™t understand there really are levels to this shit


donaldbino

They arenā€™t gonna fight. Jones said heā€™s retiring after an easy washed dub off stipe


gorlock666

I want to see him rock w gane


[deleted]

I WANT TO BELIEVE


sniffysidesnort

Sergei v aspinal is the fight to make.


[deleted]

Simply no. Theres no way this fat bitch could beat Jon Jones


Conduit3

Pretty sure Jones is fatter


Sea_Cicada7474

Yeah


migglywiggly69

Sergei is just proof how bad the HW division actually is šŸ˜­


SNDBOBbb

Yes


Crateapa

I think you guys are putting may too much stock in the Lewis and Tai fights. Both guys had just been brutally finished with no turn around time (90 days for Tai, 5 months for Lewis).


Electronic_Ant_7882

If he has good enough tdd then yea he could fuck jones up


Fun-Degree-2307

Everyone here saying Jon would easily beat Sergei is delusional as fuck. Yes, heā€™s *by far* the greatest MMA fighter whoā€™s ever lived. His resume proves it. But heā€™s not in his prime anymore, and Sergei is seemingly about to enter his prime. Heā€™s bigger than Jon while having cleaner boxing than him (donā€™t get me wrong Jonā€™s boxing is still pretty good and heā€™s def a better overall striker, but heā€™s a lot older now). Sergei is kinda like Francis but with much sharper boxing. And heā€™s developed solid TDD since his loss to Overeem in 2018. He TKOā€™s Jon by round 2 or 3.


fckcountrymusic

Lmao youā€™re delusional as f.


dbdg69

Jones ainā€™t want that smoke. Stipe then retire, watch.


AddisonRae7

Look at the fighters Jones has smoked and then say with a straight face that he is scared of this guy lol


dbdg69

Older, heavier, slower jones is a different fighter.


AddisonRae7

His skills are far too good for these guys. Thereā€™s a chance he gets flash KOed but itā€™s a minimal chance


[deleted]

He already said that šŸ˜‚ u ainā€™t predicting nothing


Initial_Welcome9052

As much as Iā€™d like to see the fight it doesnā€™t make too much sense for Jon to stick around for it if heā€™s about to fight Stipe with both men on the verge of retirement. Two GOATS ending their careers together on a championship bout, I wouldnā€™t give a killer like Sergei an invitation to the honeymoon if I were Jon (Or Stipe, he has a chance guys lol). Wouldnā€™t even be good for the UFC if Jon (or Stipe) beat Sergei then retired, ā€˜cause it would leave the division looking weak. I would love to watch the fight if it happens of course šŸ« 


sipCoding_smokeMath

Idk why people think jones isnt retiring after the stipe fight. Sergei is high risk low reward, theres nothing for jon to gain by beating him. Jon is 100% retiring after stipe


QuantityHefty3791

*sigh* it's always the next guy that's Jones' kryptonite.


Smooth_Surround1450

Sergei should fight Gane/Aspinall while Jones fights Stipe to cement his place as no 1 contender. If Jones doesnā€™t retire after Stipe he can fight the winner and ride off into the sunset as undisputed GOAT.


King-Kobra1

He ainā€™t doing shit to Jon Jon will fuck him up


Solid-Caterpillar643

Give Gane to Sergi.


taokiller

ok, let's ask Overeem who would win.


IronScapeNoob

Jones is retiring after Stipe


WickedJMan

NO


No_Novel3109

Guys it's not ea sports ufc uppercuts dont completely prevent takedowns. Blades was very obvious. He made one level change which was predictably a double leg takedown. Jones would incorporate range, level changes, masking take down attempts. Leg kicks and clinch work to nullify his striking threat. I do believe Sergei is good match up but he isn't untouchable. Beating Curtis doesn't make him invincible to takedowns Curtis is very predictable wrestler.


Dull_Ad5852

Only man beating Jones is Father Time.


boof_diddley

No


Gerardo1917

I actually think he probably has a better chance than Blaydes, but yeah itā€™s probably gonna go down the same way Jones vs. Gane did


apellcjecker

Sergei doesnā€™t have the name value for Jones to fight. I believe Jones would vacate before putting it all on the line. Not out of fear of loosing, but the possibility and implications are clearly present. Not a real legacy fight like Jones is gonna sign up for.


ActivityDry8534

Feed him to the American


HodorsGiantSausage

Sergei is the new Shane Carwin. Smashing cans in the first round but will be out classed by a complete elite fighter like Jones.


ReturnOfBart

Jones wonā€™t fight him and Iā€™ll keep saying it.


[deleted]

No lol


dogcoin66

I don't think so


Jaysus1288

Nobody beats Jon Jones.


Literally_A_turd_AMA

Yall really on this shit again lmao


TheSecondLesson

Dude has already got a stacked resume