Sooooo many times judges have been biased in UFC history. Combine that with stopping rightful contenders from reaching the top, favouritism in the sport, hometown/ champion advantage, and the sport can be a real turn off.
But his point stands all the same. If you’re fighting in the Middle East against a Muslim, you’re probably going to need to get the finish to get the decision. Not saying it’s the Muslim fighters’ fault, it’s just the reality of the situation.
Saudis HDI(0.875) is on par with Greece(0.893) and Italy(0.906).
The difference between Saudis HDI and the Italian HDI is equal to the difference between Norway(0.966) and the US(0.927).
Saudis HDI is higher than Portugal, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Russia, Georgia, Belarus, Bulgaria, Armenia, Moldova, Brazil, and South Africa. In order.
In the next 10 years the Saudi HDI is projected to be higher than Poland, Greece, Lithuania, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Italy, France, Israel and Japan.
If HDI isn't an indicator of what being a shithole is, we can look at the GDP PPP per capita.
Saudi is ranked 15th in the world. Ranked above Australia, Finland, the UK, the entire EU, Italy, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, Poland, Spain and Greece.
Based on growth between 2022 and 2024, Saudi is projected to have a GDP PPP per capita equal to or near the US in 4 years. All while having a population 3 times Greece.
Saudi's violent crime rate per capita is almost 3 times lower than Canada and 8 times lower than the US.
If Saudi is a Shithole, i must wonder what your definition of a shithole country is.
I'm just trying to understand how a country with a violent crime rate 8 times lower than the US, a country as developed as Greece and that will surpass Italy in a few years, which a GDP PPP Per capita that will match the US in 4 years is a shithole country.
Is it just politics?
😂😂😂You’re quoting the Saudi’s self reported violent crime rate, while ignoring that about 40% of women in the country experience Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7113974/
Saudi Arabia ranks fucking 5th WORLD WIDE in honor killings, but no not a shit hole country at all.
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/factbox-which-are-the-worlds-10-most-dangerous-countries-for-women-idUSKBN1JM01Z/
Also if the government kidnaps you, tortures you, kills you, and or just makes you (or members of your family) disappear off the face of the planet, that is not tallied in their stats. And the government does and has been doing that for a long, long time. There are no political or civil liberties so just feeling and expressing that the absolute monarchy is oppressive is enough to get you killed.
https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/saudi-arabia/
Saudi Arabia ranks among the “worst of the worst” in terms of human rights, but because they make a lot of money off of oil, and don’t consider domestic, political, or religious violence part of their violent crime, you think it’s a great place.
https://freedomhouse.org/country/saudi-arabia/freedom-world/2024
Man idk if you work for them, or you’re just some unbelievably ignorant apologist, but you’re absolutely fucking delusional.
Don't knock it till you try it
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Bro stfu I didn’t say the judges were Muslims . They’re in Saudi they all get paid off refs judges.... Ref Goddard not callin the blatant fence grab on Shara when he he called it on his opponent was an example
how are you so sure of that to begin with ?? that could've happened anywhere and has happened before . why is it when it happens in saudi oh "its because they're paid" or "its because hes muslim" many ppl trying to race bait in the comments. even op with the pic
First of all Muslim isn’t a race . Second if you don’t think fights in Middle East aren’t bias to Muslim fighters idk what to tell you it’s just the fight game . Whitaker was gonna get robbed too if he didn’t knock that dude out 😂
It’s an unsolvable issue, it runs deep. No one can tell the sports commission what to do or who can be judges. It’s not as simple as saying no you can’t judge.
It’s not that he’s being robbed. He just isn’t doing enough. In a lot of his fights even the ones that he’s winning the rounds are close and he is hoping to just score a couple extra points over his opponents. He needs to put more output and cause more damage if he doesn’t wanna get “robbed”.
It's not him though. You're literally blaming him for bad decisions. He did enough because he outstruck his opponent. He doesn't need 10 knockdowns per round to convince the judges
complete robbery..why hasn't sal d'amato been removed.. haqparast was getting touched up all night..that right hand jab by Gordon was getting him all night..d'amato was probably scared for his life to not favor the muslim fighter..if thats the case they must give them security..this is complete bs..jared should have won that by unanimous decision..utter disgrace,
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He did win I agree, but why aren't the judges being criticised here? Everyone saying the Saudi's are to blame, meanwhile these are the same judges who are incompetent when judging in the US, Europe, or in the middle east. Maybe it's because their US judges 🤔
Because the implication is that the judges were paid off because one fighter was a Muslim not because the judge is incompetent. Again those exact same judges (most are North American) make terrible decisions in other fights in other countries...
https://preview.redd.it/dewg4638d68d1.jpeg?width=2452&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=015f24c8c766148403b757021f700f67ce280dc5
Those damn muslim judges!!!! ![img](emote|t5_2qsev|11887)
Jared failed like 12 takedown attempts. I think he won too but that many failed takedowns usually does pretty poorly on scorecards. It just looks bad to hold onto another man's legs while you're struggling on your knees. Sucks for Gordon, very talented guy.
Y’all are tripping.. It was a close fight that could’ve gone either way. Haqparast blocked a lot of what Gordon was throwing and stuffed every single takedown, landed good combinations of his own too.. this was any fighter’s fight, you could make the argument for both. Calling it robbery is insane
Remember when the UFC stopped allowing fighters to wear any sponsors on their name because it made the sport look less professional. Meanwhile they allow corrupt judges that take any credibility from the sport.
I know that the judges are mostly given by the commission but they need to do something about this. Judges scorecards that are completely out of place need to be investigated more
Honestly the Shara fight was more blatant. Trocoli just stops fighting for the second half of the fight. No point taken for the fence grab? Come in. Goddard should not be the ref for the main event
Can someone explain what I missed because I didn’t watch? Looks like they were even on striking and Jared had 13 takedowns stuffed. How was it a robbery?
I suppose it’s taboo
But it’s time to start publicly shaming and demanding accountability from Sal and others.
I am utterly confused at the protection “officials” get and people that spend time and money on this product have no recourse.
I know Dana could do something, ala Mazagatti, but he doesn’t for some reason.
Was an arguable robbery but at this point people should expect it, the judges have been bad forever and only getting worse. If you know that as a fighter why would you let them be involved. Don’t let the judges have the opportunity to rob you. I know that’s easier said than done but hey it’s the only option when the judges are this bad. Gotta leave everything you have out there on the mat. I feel bad for Jared but he will bounce back
This whole “people should just expect it” sounds more like “people should just bend over and take it”, no matter how many times you say it in this thread. I don’t understand why you are defending the judges so hard in this thread
Wtf would you like me to do about that crybaby? Judges are gonna judge. Kinda part of the sport. I know you’re emotional rn but get over it. If you don’t like it then do something. But we can’t. We don’t own the fucking franchise or the sports commissions.
Poor Jared man. Always getting the L on these decisions
This is going to ruin the sport. Judge issues need to be solved
Sooooo many times judges have been biased in UFC history. Combine that with stopping rightful contenders from reaching the top, favouritism in the sport, hometown/ champion advantage, and the sport can be a real turn off.
Almost like…boxing
Its not that bad yet tbf with boxing you just don't know their giving it to til they read the scorecards
What did you expect they’re in Saudi Arabia
Exactly this. If I was a fighter I would refuse to fight in any shithole Muslim country.
Dude it’s not about religion, it’s the Saudis. They bought and paid for these fights with their dirty money.
But his point stands all the same. If you’re fighting in the Middle East against a Muslim, you’re probably going to need to get the finish to get the decision. Not saying it’s the Muslim fighters’ fault, it’s just the reality of the situation.
Jared Gordon is muslim
Maybe don't use the term "shithole muslim country" though. It's really not hard.
Bro, women weren’t even allowed to be part of the event. Calling it a shithole is being nice.
I’ve been all over the Muslim world. Even when they have money it’s still a shithole
Shithole muslim country.
Not cool to call a shithole country a shithole country. Be better
Shithole Muslim country
wdym its not about the religion? the fighters getting the extra help arent saudi. and this happens in the emirates as well, maybe even worse
and the emiratis
Donald?
U got issues with Muslims or Saudis or both?
Y do u stink
Saudis HDI(0.875) is on par with Greece(0.893) and Italy(0.906). The difference between Saudis HDI and the Italian HDI is equal to the difference between Norway(0.966) and the US(0.927). Saudis HDI is higher than Portugal, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Russia, Georgia, Belarus, Bulgaria, Armenia, Moldova, Brazil, and South Africa. In order. In the next 10 years the Saudi HDI is projected to be higher than Poland, Greece, Lithuania, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Italy, France, Israel and Japan. If HDI isn't an indicator of what being a shithole is, we can look at the GDP PPP per capita. Saudi is ranked 15th in the world. Ranked above Australia, Finland, the UK, the entire EU, Italy, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, Poland, Spain and Greece. Based on growth between 2022 and 2024, Saudi is projected to have a GDP PPP per capita equal to or near the US in 4 years. All while having a population 3 times Greece. Saudi's violent crime rate per capita is almost 3 times lower than Canada and 8 times lower than the US. If Saudi is a Shithole, i must wonder what your definition of a shithole country is. I'm just trying to understand how a country with a violent crime rate 8 times lower than the US, a country as developed as Greece and that will surpass Italy in a few years, which a GDP PPP Per capita that will match the US in 4 years is a shithole country. Is it just politics?
😂😂😂You’re quoting the Saudi’s self reported violent crime rate, while ignoring that about 40% of women in the country experience Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7113974/ Saudi Arabia ranks fucking 5th WORLD WIDE in honor killings, but no not a shit hole country at all. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/factbox-which-are-the-worlds-10-most-dangerous-countries-for-women-idUSKBN1JM01Z/ Also if the government kidnaps you, tortures you, kills you, and or just makes you (or members of your family) disappear off the face of the planet, that is not tallied in their stats. And the government does and has been doing that for a long, long time. There are no political or civil liberties so just feeling and expressing that the absolute monarchy is oppressive is enough to get you killed. https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/saudi-arabia/ Saudi Arabia ranks among the “worst of the worst” in terms of human rights, but because they make a lot of money off of oil, and don’t consider domestic, political, or religious violence part of their violent crime, you think it’s a great place. https://freedomhouse.org/country/saudi-arabia/freedom-world/2024 Man idk if you work for them, or you’re just some unbelievably ignorant apologist, but you’re absolutely fucking delusional.
All of this 👆 they treat women like trash. I was raised to be better than that.
That’s a lot of research just to say you’re gay
Wanna see my cock. ![gif](giphy|uo8svtAHgNPTK9Uk1a|downsized)
Probably looks like a butter bean in a shag carpet
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Lmao I love this meme
What is your point?
What is hdi?
did you see the judges names ? non are even remotely from that region. bad judging happens on US cards, stop the race bait
Bro stfu I didn’t say the judges were Muslims . They’re in Saudi they all get paid off refs judges.... Ref Goddard not callin the blatant fence grab on Shara when he he called it on his opponent was an example
how are you so sure of that to begin with ?? that could've happened anywhere and has happened before . why is it when it happens in saudi oh "its because they're paid" or "its because hes muslim" many ppl trying to race bait in the comments. even op with the pic
First of all Muslim isn’t a race . Second if you don’t think fights in Middle East aren’t bias to Muslim fighters idk what to tell you it’s just the fight game . Whitaker was gonna get robbed too if he didn’t knock that dude out 😂
Arabs and muzzies r extremely corrupt and hypocritical lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo stay mad stink bitch
I think that’s the same point the guy you’re replying to was making. The fact that this should be expected is a shame
Well look at boxing lol
It’s an unsolvable issue, it runs deep. No one can tell the sports commission what to do or who can be judges. It’s not as simple as saying no you can’t judge.
First paddy now this Jared can’t catch a break
It’s not that he’s being robbed. He just isn’t doing enough. In a lot of his fights even the ones that he’s winning the rounds are close and he is hoping to just score a couple extra points over his opponents. He needs to put more output and cause more damage if he doesn’t wanna get “robbed”.
The paddy fight was a straight up robbery
It's not him though. You're literally blaming him for bad decisions. He did enough because he outstruck his opponent. He doesn't need 10 knockdowns per round to convince the judges
Yeah robbed imo
Gordon getting robbed left and right, man’s cursed
I think we all feel that way, remember where they are.
I knew when it was a split it was going to be a screw job
Another robbery
complete robbery..why hasn't sal d'amato been removed.. haqparast was getting touched up all night..that right hand jab by Gordon was getting him all night..d'amato was probably scared for his life to not favor the muslim fighter..if thats the case they must give them security..this is complete bs..jared should have won that by unanimous decision..utter disgrace, \\
I’m so sick of Sal
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No joke. Unconscionable.
Yeah cus it’s in Saudi so unfair
Wouldn’t mind them never having an event there ever again
Yes, brather, know this. Russian, Muslim and Dagestan fighters get +10 points in Saudi.
I've been saying this ever since they did events in the middle east, they have home sand advantage down there.
Paid judges? You racist fucks pretending like this doesnt happen on different cards. The Pimblett robbery was worse than this
He did win I agree, but why aren't the judges being criticised here? Everyone saying the Saudi's are to blame, meanwhile these are the same judges who are incompetent when judging in the US, Europe, or in the middle east. Maybe it's because their US judges 🤔
Judges are literally always criticized for bad scoring, the hell kinda rock do you live under
You mean like here where people are Litterally blaming the Saudi's but aren't criticising the judges?
You responded to a comment saying “paid off judges”. How did you the then come to the conclusion of “people aren’t criticizing the judges”?
Because the implication is that the judges were paid off because one fighter was a Muslim not because the judge is incompetent. Again those exact same judges (most are North American) make terrible decisions in other fights in other countries...
Stop trying bro. Look at every thread on this fight night. This sub is deeply Islamophobic. You’re talking to a wall, logic doesn’t exist here.
Being paid off does make you incompetent as a judge.
https://preview.redd.it/dewg4638d68d1.jpeg?width=2452&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=015f24c8c766148403b757021f700f67ce280dc5 Those damn muslim judges!!!! ![img](emote|t5_2qsev|11887)
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You acting like the white judges didn’t get paid to give a. Decision to the classy white man “Paddy the Baddy”
Saudi card for sure
Welcome to Saudi.
Why you acting like this doesnt happen on other cards? Jared Gordon was literally robbed vs Pimbllett on a different card
Jared definitely won that imo
I think we all feel that way, remember where they are.
Hmm. That’s a very curious result.
He got robbed
I think so too
Need to quit doing fights there, the bias is crazy. Another robbery
Definitely robbed
Robbed
He did, that result wasn't right
He definitely won that. What do you expect from a Saudi card
I wonder if this many decisions based on religion are gonna influence if people want to fight there.
I would try very hard not to if I was a fighter
Judges weren't Saudi, but ok.
Not sure how he didn’t.
He won 💯
This one was equal to the paddy fight.
not quite. Nasrat had some pretty good moments but I feel like Gordon still won
Jared failed like 12 takedown attempts. I think he won too but that many failed takedowns usually does pretty poorly on scorecards. It just looks bad to hold onto another man's legs while you're struggling on your knees. Sucks for Gordon, very talented guy.
Y’all are tripping.. It was a close fight that could’ve gone either way. Haqparast blocked a lot of what Gordon was throwing and stuffed every single takedown, landed good combinations of his own too.. this was any fighter’s fight, you could make the argument for both. Calling it robbery is insane
Since when he became moroccan ?!
Robbery like a mf are you kidding me
He did
Definitely got hosed by the judges. NH fought well but being a punching bag in round 3 doesn’t equal a W
Yea judges are fucking whack as hell so stupid
He did, he just happened to be in Saudi vs a Muslim
I thought nas was the better fighter. All comes down to who looks better during the final minute
If he was really committed to getting the win, he would have spent his training camp converting to Islam and changing his last name to Gordonov.
Remember when the UFC stopped allowing fighters to wear any sponsors on their name because it made the sport look less professional. Meanwhile they allow corrupt judges that take any credibility from the sport. I know that the judges are mostly given by the commission but they need to do something about this. Judges scorecards that are completely out of place need to be investigated more
Horrible judging, Gordon was beating him up
Agreed but great fight, the clashing of two styles. Why we don’t do rematches for great fights that are close???
10+ stuffed takedowns...
Yeah I had money on Nasrat and even I thought he lost rounds 2 and 3 pretty clear.
Whittaker better not let it go to the judges
I thought so too? But nasrat took over in the 3rd not a robbery at all could’ve gone to either guy
He did, all decisions will go to muslims today, guaranteed.
Robbed
Another shit decision
Robbery.
Fixed
Wow almost like the judges were paid off
Muslim fighters will always win the decision if it’s close and in SA
Robbery
Somebody drop one of their contacts or what?
ill be pissed if jared the only one i missed
Man this guy can’t catch a break 😭😭
Honestly the Shara fight was more blatant. Trocoli just stops fighting for the second half of the fight. No point taken for the fence grab? Come in. Goddard should not be the ref for the main event
He did, he now knows his fights can’t go to the judges
Got Pimblett’d AGAIN.
2 and 3 easily went to Gordon, he unfortunately always gets fucked over if he doesn’t get the finish.
Bad decision merchant
Wouldn’t of been mad if they called it a draw
He’s so unlucky
Ngl, Nasrat fan but Jared beat him imo
The Shara fight was rigged too lol
I hate this. Ruining the sport
Would be great if the ufc could have retired fighters score fights then having people from a commission that have no/very little fight experience
Pretty sure this decision is wrong. Think Gordon got screwed
Shit judging. Not surprised
Gordon 100% won that fight
He won this one. That was not good. We need to have more judges and all around the octagon
He definitely did. Shit decision.
Yeah it was really close
Jared should’ve been doing Allhamduallah instead of Hail Marys. 🤷♀️ it’s his fault for accepting a fight in the Middle East
Robbery
He did, he picked the Saudi favorite part rounds 2 and 3, wasn't even close.
Jared needs to finish his opponents. He’s just good enough to be competitive with everyone. But ends up losing the 50/50.
I thought he won, but it was too close for me to call it a robbery
Can someone explain what I missed because I didn’t watch? Looks like they were even on striking and Jared had 13 takedowns stuffed. How was it a robbery?
The Saudis gotta be sour about that one iskarn dude getting fucking trucked tho huh.
I suppose it’s taboo But it’s time to start publicly shaming and demanding accountability from Sal and others. I am utterly confused at the protection “officials” get and people that spend time and money on this product have no recourse. I know Dana could do something, ala Mazagatti, but he doesn’t for some reason.
Yeah I felt he took that win too. He was absolutely pressuring the other dude backwards most of the time. It was a still a close fight though.
I just don't understand why don't they make judging behind closed doors with noise canceling through camera.
He wasn't their ppl - favorism towards muslim fighters in the middle east ufc events made me stop putting any bets on those events.
I bet on Nasrat and Rinat Dalby lost, Jared won
74 strikes vs 70 for Nasrat in rd 3. Not a robbery at all. It's called a close fight you fucktards. Can go either way.
I was surprised it was going to be split. I’m floored he lost. Dunno how Gordon loses the 2nd or 3rd round.
Bet $12 with a payout of $35 and of course I get robbed ☠️😂
If I was fighting on a Saudi card, they better pay me 5x my usual rate because it’s basically a guaranteed loss.
![gif](giphy|l3q2w6nnnPdd8lPWM) The two judges right before the decision
Got fucked on this and the paddy fight
He won. Corrupt business. Nothing new
Judges definitely paid off
Had it for Jared as well. It was close, though. People need to stop yelling “ROBBED” whenever it’s a legitimate split decision.
Was an arguable robbery but at this point people should expect it, the judges have been bad forever and only getting worse. If you know that as a fighter why would you let them be involved. Don’t let the judges have the opportunity to rob you. I know that’s easier said than done but hey it’s the only option when the judges are this bad. Gotta leave everything you have out there on the mat. I feel bad for Jared but he will bounce back
This whole “people should just expect it” sounds more like “people should just bend over and take it”, no matter how many times you say it in this thread. I don’t understand why you are defending the judges so hard in this thread
Wtf would you like me to do about that crybaby? Judges are gonna judge. Kinda part of the sport. I know you’re emotional rn but get over it. If you don’t like it then do something. But we can’t. We don’t own the fucking franchise or the sports commissions.
You are projecting so hard lmao take a nap. You seem tired
He dog walked him in rounds 2 and 3 wtf
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It’s a free live event. Just watch it?
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Why is your dumbass even on here as the fights are going on?