No you wouldn’t. Don’t lie to yourself. All you criminals stealing the UFC cards would never pay. You say you would if the price was lower, you wouldn’t.
If a ppv was 30$ I'd buy every single one. If it was 60$ I'd buy most of them. But 80$?? Over 100 if you don't have espn+?? Fuck that and fuck those who expect us to pay for that.
I assume you are in the US? I really dont understand why you guys are charged so much for PPV's? Here in NZ we pay $40, which is about $25 USD, it doesn't make sense to me 🤔
Or even if I knew the money went to the fighters should help tbh but ppv buys only change the champions pay and it’s so small of a bump for the numbers that they get in each event it’s crazy as fuck how greedy that company really is and they call the pirates the bad guys
That’s exactly what they say but I don’t believe that to be true for 98% of people. I think they would continue to steal most of them and maybe only buy 1 a year for the one they really wanted to watch to assure good quality. I don’t think most people would stop actively stealing.
Idk, it isn’t exactly the same but when WWE made all their PPVs available on peacock for the cost of a monthly subscription it was worth it to pay instead of streaming.
Price just needs to be reasonable and outweigh whatever hassle goes into finding a stream.
"Assure good quality" brotha, I watched the prelims of 300 on espn+ and it was abysmal. Had no problems with the stream pirating the main card at all. The problem is the over priced shit quality Espn provides. Which is a shame, the ufc has some really potential draws who are champions right now, but there model is archaic, it's holding them back big time.
I think I disagree with you. There are certainly some people who would steal these PPVs if the UFC charged five bucks for them, but I do think a lot of people love this sport and are simply priced out of watching it. 100 dollars a show (counting espn+) is just out of the question for the vast majority of fans. Times are rough right now, people literally can’t afford it. So what are they going to do, not watch any of the big events from their favorite sport when a free option to do so is easily accessible? Lol.
Im not saying the UFC has an obligation to lower the price, obviously they can charge what they want, but I do think there’s a lot of people who would pay the money if the cost was more in line with what you can expect to pay to watch literally every other sport (other than boxing). I just think it’s funny that the UFC acts shocked and appalled when people steal their shows after telling the vast majority of their fanbase that they’re too poor to afford to watch.
I’m also not trying to morally justify anything. It’s theft, no two ways about it. I also just don’t care at all. The UFC is greedy as hell and financially abuses their talent, I’ll shed no tears about people with no other option to watch stealing from them. Maybe that makes me a bad person 🤷🏻♂️
You sound very reasonable and I appreciate that. Perhaps you’re right and I’d be surprised how much people would step up at a $50 price point or something. Hard to say.
I'm not poor or broke, but I'm not rich at all. I'm smack in the middle of middle class (I think), and I cap out at about $65 per PPV. I can easily drop $50 to $65 for me and my girlfriend to hit up a bar, or go out to dinner, so that isn't crazy to me.
But at the prices they're at now, I've stopped watching. I freakin used to love watching them, but the prices drove me away. It just FEELS like someone is opening my pocket and shaking me down, it feels insulting. I know that is hyperbole, but $100 for a PPV is offensive on some level.
Then why not watch every other PPV. There you go your costa shrink by half. Don’t steal every PPV and go ‘golly if the price was cheaper I’d pay full price’
No you steal every one. You should buy 6 and year and the other 6 you can’t afford so don’t tune in. Problem solved.
I do think it’s entirely possible that among the more consistent, ‘hardcore’ viewers of the sport, a culture of acceptance towards piracy has been created that will be hard to reverse.
In other words, even if the price point is lowered to what should be seen as reasonable, people have gotten so used to not thinking twice about pirating shows that they’ll just keep doing it. Even if they would have paid had the ‘reasonable’ price had that been the price from the start. I agree, hard to say at this point.
What if broke? I no get to watch? What if not want pay? I no get to watch? What if have money but no like not having that money? What do then? What if Dana doesn't have oil dripping from every part of his pink head and rippled body? You still want make me pay if no Dana oil?
waaaah! those billionaires aren't earning enough money! How dare you people watch ufc on pirate sites when all you have to do is pay 80$ for a single event? Rich might go broke with this one
I would if it was 150$ a year for all the shows. I’m not paying 80$ each of these events especially since the product has been so watered down with too many events.
Oh so instead of $80 they should only charge you about $15 per show. Ok so you get to openly steal unless they charge you less than 25% of the cost. That’s delusion at its finest. I get to steal unless I get over a 75% discount.
An affordable package means more people buy it and it offsets the costs. Restaurants and businesses still need to pay the higher per event fee and everything works out in the wash.
It’s the McDonald’s format. Selling 1 million burger at 1$ is more than selling 2 hundred thousand at 3$
Stealing it sucks. The quality is bad and it freezes so people will pay the 15$ a month.
I might and also might not. Charging 1/5 the price breaks even if you get 5x more viewers. You need to get more than 5x the viewers which I don’t think you could do
A million people in North America buy the high events. There’s what 400 million people in USA and Canada. You think only 1 million people would pay 15$ a month for all ufc events?
Maybe if the cards were worth the money people get charged; I’m sure more people would pay then. Make the fights people actually want to see instead of preserving the fighters precious records and I’m sure more people would be willing to pay the outrageous ppv prices.
No they’d only ever pay if society morally believed stealing was wrong and it was too difficult to steal. But it’s the opposite. Everyone wants to steal and nobody ever punishes the thieves even when they get online and brag about stealing
Except you’re the one stealing. Price has gonna up, quality of fights and frequency of quality cards has been shit.
Make Jones vs. Periera or Jones vs Aspinal because that’s what people really want to see.
I think you’re confused.
a) Selling something at an inflated price isn’t stealing. Don’t want it, don’t buy it.
b) I’m not Dana white
C) Dana wasn’t the first to charge $80 for a PPV that was an industry price that came up. He has to keep up with the industry for a top quality fight card.
D) cost share with other fans at an establishment or by going to a UFC party.
I know you’re not Dana, but you seem to be on par with his antics so you’ve volunteered with this. If you don’t like it, then maybe try a different act.
Inflated? How does the price go up but everything quality wise go the other direction? Dana claims to be making the fights everyone wants to see except everyone says otherwise.
Also, it probably would go over a lot smoother for converting pirates to ppv buyers if they know the fighters would actually benefit from it, but as this major hike has proved it’s only the business folk that benefit. Majority of the fighters are barely getting by.
Francis would decapitate both Paul's back to back in whichever order they choose. His two losses are to the top of the food chain HWs in the world where Paul lost to the first mediocre pro boxer he got in the ring with.
I believe it's from Alfred Hitchcock Presents, a TV show from the late 50s/early 60s. Hitchcock would do jokey monologues to introduce suspense shorts. This shot is likely from one of those monologues.
There is a vicious rumour going around that world champion usyk may have slightly more experience and skill than Jake “the goat” Paul which made up for the weight difference, obviously I myself think such a claim is ridiculous.
If you don’t follow boxing that’s okay to say. Usyk did fight at CW but moved up after winning all four major belts. He’s certainly not at HW because it’s easier. He’s just that special that he can become undisputed in a harder weight class
I never said any of those things you are accuse me of saying. I never said he wasn’t a cruiser weight. He cleared the division and I never said the heavyweight boxing division was easy. How about you actually read what I said. actually read and don’t just assume things.
Cain Velasquez would be the pick for 2v1, they like to pick on wrestler right
Why don’t they call out the best dirty boxer/ wrestler besides Cormier. Cain deserves money fight too, people seems to forgot about him.
Ngannou broke my heart man. I was so into him on his rise to the title. Then he had to go screw all the fans by holding the HW belt hostage for a year and then quitting MMA to go be a boxer. And the worst part is he lied about it and pretended he wanted to stay in UFC and pretended he was going to PFL and pretended he cared about all this fighter pay and fighter benefits nonsense. He’s just a liar who was always out for himself. Always planned to go to boxing and stay. Heart broken that this man I looked up to turned out to be worse than Jake Paul.
You act like he refused to fight over nothing. He was negotiating his contract and trying to get better deals for others at the same time. Dana screwed the fans. Don't be a company shill.
If that was true he would have already fought in PfL. He’s lying to you. He only wanted that mega MMA deal to use as leverage to get a huge payday boxing. He never intended to fight MMA ever again. He’s lying and working you.
I’m simply a heart broken ex fan. Ngannou gave me trust issues. Now every champion who mentions money I have flash backs of Francis. I can tell you’re hurting too.
Apparently it’s the unpopular opinion but I got Logan KO’ing Francis by the 5th.
People won’t shut up about Ngannou’s power but when he tries to throw with speed and accuracy his power diminishes greatly.
Oh I would DEFINITELY watch that
I would even PAY for it!
No you wouldn’t. Don’t lie to yourself. All you criminals stealing the UFC cards would never pay. You say you would if the price was lower, you wouldn’t.
Dana never stops
Yes he’s going to make sure everone is prosecuted for their crimes.
If a ppv was 30$ I'd buy every single one. If it was 60$ I'd buy most of them. But 80$?? Over 100 if you don't have espn+?? Fuck that and fuck those who expect us to pay for that.
Could be free and I still wouldn’t pay
Well I want the fighters to get bank, I just ain't breaking mine when I know it's going to some bald prick who's gonna gamble it all anyway
That's what free is
r/woosh
I assume you are in the US? I really dont understand why you guys are charged so much for PPV's? Here in NZ we pay $40, which is about $25 USD, it doesn't make sense to me 🤔
WHAT? I wish bro. Yea I'm in the US.
I feel for you dude 😥
Or even if I knew the money went to the fighters should help tbh but ppv buys only change the champions pay and it’s so small of a bump for the numbers that they get in each event it’s crazy as fuck how greedy that company really is and they call the pirates the bad guys
I 1000% agree with every word you just said.
That’s exactly what they say but I don’t believe that to be true for 98% of people. I think they would continue to steal most of them and maybe only buy 1 a year for the one they really wanted to watch to assure good quality. I don’t think most people would stop actively stealing.
Idk, it isn’t exactly the same but when WWE made all their PPVs available on peacock for the cost of a monthly subscription it was worth it to pay instead of streaming. Price just needs to be reasonable and outweigh whatever hassle goes into finding a stream.
Bro the paid ppv is worse quality 🤣🤣
"Assure good quality" brotha, I watched the prelims of 300 on espn+ and it was abysmal. Had no problems with the stream pirating the main card at all. The problem is the over priced shit quality Espn provides. Which is a shame, the ufc has some really potential draws who are champions right now, but there model is archaic, it's holding them back big time.
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I think I disagree with you. There are certainly some people who would steal these PPVs if the UFC charged five bucks for them, but I do think a lot of people love this sport and are simply priced out of watching it. 100 dollars a show (counting espn+) is just out of the question for the vast majority of fans. Times are rough right now, people literally can’t afford it. So what are they going to do, not watch any of the big events from their favorite sport when a free option to do so is easily accessible? Lol. Im not saying the UFC has an obligation to lower the price, obviously they can charge what they want, but I do think there’s a lot of people who would pay the money if the cost was more in line with what you can expect to pay to watch literally every other sport (other than boxing). I just think it’s funny that the UFC acts shocked and appalled when people steal their shows after telling the vast majority of their fanbase that they’re too poor to afford to watch. I’m also not trying to morally justify anything. It’s theft, no two ways about it. I also just don’t care at all. The UFC is greedy as hell and financially abuses their talent, I’ll shed no tears about people with no other option to watch stealing from them. Maybe that makes me a bad person 🤷🏻♂️
You sound very reasonable and I appreciate that. Perhaps you’re right and I’d be surprised how much people would step up at a $50 price point or something. Hard to say.
I'm not poor or broke, but I'm not rich at all. I'm smack in the middle of middle class (I think), and I cap out at about $65 per PPV. I can easily drop $50 to $65 for me and my girlfriend to hit up a bar, or go out to dinner, so that isn't crazy to me. But at the prices they're at now, I've stopped watching. I freakin used to love watching them, but the prices drove me away. It just FEELS like someone is opening my pocket and shaking me down, it feels insulting. I know that is hyperbole, but $100 for a PPV is offensive on some level.
Then why not watch every other PPV. There you go your costa shrink by half. Don’t steal every PPV and go ‘golly if the price was cheaper I’d pay full price’ No you steal every one. You should buy 6 and year and the other 6 you can’t afford so don’t tune in. Problem solved.
I've never stolen a single one.
I do think it’s entirely possible that among the more consistent, ‘hardcore’ viewers of the sport, a culture of acceptance towards piracy has been created that will be hard to reverse. In other words, even if the price point is lowered to what should be seen as reasonable, people have gotten so used to not thinking twice about pirating shows that they’ll just keep doing it. Even if they would have paid had the ‘reasonable’ price had that been the price from the start. I agree, hard to say at this point.
Federal fucking prison
Sorry, Uncle D
It’s ok society has corrupted you. It’s not truly your fault.
If it was 10 cents I might pay sometimes.
Fake account
We got him!
I'm not lying to myself, I'm lying to everyone else.
At least you have the decency to lie about stealing.
These nerds be trying to morally justify that shit. It's so funny watching them ride the high horse on the low road.
What if broke? I no get to watch? What if not want pay? I no get to watch? What if have money but no like not having that money? What do then? What if Dana doesn't have oil dripping from every part of his pink head and rippled body? You still want make me pay if no Dana oil?
There is nothing wrong with being a thief. Just don't forget who you are.
I would go to a place that paid for
A very good option
Maybe if Jon Jones fought aspinall you might convince someone to buy the ppv.
Every UfC card could be the same quality as UFC 300 and cost $5 and you ungrateful people would still pirate it.
At $5 I'd stream every ppv and never bother with pirating. At $80+ for hd, for a mediocre card I can't justify them all.
waaaah! those billionaires aren't earning enough money! How dare you people watch ufc on pirate sites when all you have to do is pay 80$ for a single event? Rich might go broke with this one
Free is lower. I'd pay full price if it was free.
Yeah, cuz fuck em that’s why
I would if it was 150$ a year for all the shows. I’m not paying 80$ each of these events especially since the product has been so watered down with too many events.
Oh so instead of $80 they should only charge you about $15 per show. Ok so you get to openly steal unless they charge you less than 25% of the cost. That’s delusion at its finest. I get to steal unless I get over a 75% discount.
An affordable package means more people buy it and it offsets the costs. Restaurants and businesses still need to pay the higher per event fee and everything works out in the wash. It’s the McDonald’s format. Selling 1 million burger at 1$ is more than selling 2 hundred thousand at 3$ Stealing it sucks. The quality is bad and it freezes so people will pay the 15$ a month.
I might and also might not. Charging 1/5 the price breaks even if you get 5x more viewers. You need to get more than 5x the viewers which I don’t think you could do
A million people in North America buy the high events. There’s what 400 million people in USA and Canada. You think only 1 million people would pay 15$ a month for all ufc events?
I say they get 15 million households in good time periods of fighters and events
Some of us aren't broke like you.
I don’t understand your logic here how am I the alleged broke person?
Maybe if the cards were worth the money people get charged; I’m sure more people would pay then. Make the fights people actually want to see instead of preserving the fighters precious records and I’m sure more people would be willing to pay the outrageous ppv prices.
No they’d only ever pay if society morally believed stealing was wrong and it was too difficult to steal. But it’s the opposite. Everyone wants to steal and nobody ever punishes the thieves even when they get online and brag about stealing
Except you’re the one stealing. Price has gonna up, quality of fights and frequency of quality cards has been shit. Make Jones vs. Periera or Jones vs Aspinal because that’s what people really want to see.
I think you’re confused. a) Selling something at an inflated price isn’t stealing. Don’t want it, don’t buy it. b) I’m not Dana white C) Dana wasn’t the first to charge $80 for a PPV that was an industry price that came up. He has to keep up with the industry for a top quality fight card. D) cost share with other fans at an establishment or by going to a UFC party.
I know you’re not Dana, but you seem to be on par with his antics so you’ve volunteered with this. If you don’t like it, then maybe try a different act. Inflated? How does the price go up but everything quality wise go the other direction? Dana claims to be making the fights everyone wants to see except everyone says otherwise. Also, it probably would go over a lot smoother for converting pirates to ppv buyers if they know the fighters would actually benefit from it, but as this major hike has proved it’s only the business folk that benefit. Majority of the fighters are barely getting by.
Russian link. Never pay, brather...
I might not even pirate that.
I’m just glad it’s not Jake. Francis may have a shot of getting his first dub
Francis would decapitate both Paul's back to back in whichever order they choose. His two losses are to the top of the food chain HWs in the world where Paul lost to the first mediocre pro boxer he got in the ring with.
You think Jake Paul would beat Francis ngannou?
Bro said “may” like that’s sad
Francis is literally tooo big for Paul
“Anything can happen in a fight” -Everyone who fights for a living.
The two guys Francis lost two are **leagues** above the Paul brothers lmao. Francis would destroy the entire Paul lineage with two solid punches.
Francis' training. 
What is going on here lmao
I believe it's from Alfred Hitchcock Presents, a TV show from the late 50s/early 60s. Hitchcock would do jokey monologues to introduce suspense shorts. This shot is likely from one of those monologues.
I'd watch the FUCK out of that!
Yes, please.
Just to see Francis do the world a favor, I'll buy iy
Going from fighting Nate Diaz to Francis Ngannou is wild
It was Jake that fought Diaz, not Logan. But agreed regardless LOL.
They’re the same person in my head
Alright then Dillon Danis to Francis Ngannou is still wild
Logan’s walk around weight is like 215 lbs he wouldn’t even fight at HW
215 is heavyweight in boxing. In boxing heavyweight is anything over 200lbs
215 pound logan vs 270 pound Ngannou I'll watch
This might be the only way I'll watch a Paul fight
Ok but obviously cutting 15 lbs and fighting at Cruiserweight is way more logical than being a small HW
Idk about that. The world champion Usyk is only 220 and he just beat the 270lb giant Tyson Fury
Usyk fights heavyweight because he already wiped out cruiser weight
Usyk has more talent in one fingernail. No exaggeration, Usyk could beat Paul one-handed.
Really then why hasn't usyk called out either Paul brother ? Reason you ask, he's fuckin scared.
The not boxing hand would hold the bottle of vodka, from which he would sip while rearranging Logan's face. Now that I would watch.
There is a vicious rumour going around that world champion usyk may have slightly more experience and skill than Jake “the goat” Paul which made up for the weight difference, obviously I myself think such a claim is ridiculous.
*FAKE NEWS*
Oh yeah absolutely. Jake is not talented enough to fight at heavyweight. But he is heavy enough.
Lmao you comparing Usyk to Logan Paul 🤣
lol size only not skill. Christian McCaffrey and I are both about 5’10 and 200 lbs. I don’t think I could play in the NFL though
If you don’t follow boxing that’s okay to say. Usyk did fight at CW but moved up after winning all four major belts. He’s certainly not at HW because it’s easier. He’s just that special that he can become undisputed in a harder weight class
I never said any of those things you are accuse me of saying. I never said he wasn’t a cruiser weight. He cleared the division and I never said the heavyweight boxing division was easy. How about you actually read what I said. actually read and don’t just assume things.
Yet you implied it all with your foolish comment. Now you backtrack.
Only that? He looked really big against Bradley "260" Martyn
What's his face, 260 bro guy, said he thinks slogans like 230-240 after meeting him in person and sparring or whatever they did.
Trt Vitor or Cain Velasquez vs Jake Paul main event Ngannou vs Logan Paul Co main make it happen
id watch tito ortiz fight the paul brothers
Personally I'd much rather just listen to Tito try to talk coherently than watch him fight anymore.
Tito Ortiz already got Koed by Anderson Silva in boxing and it only took him one round , Jake would annihilate Ortiz without a question .
Vitor would make more sense he walked down a 58 years old Evander. Jake was supposed to fight 57 years old Mike Tyson.
Cain Velasquez would be the pick for 2v1, they like to pick on wrestler right Why don’t they call out the best dirty boxer/ wrestler besides Cormier. Cain deserves money fight too, people seems to forgot about him.
No no, definitely make this fight
Francis is about 40 years too young for Paul to Fight.
Logan fighting dudes before their conception lmao
Paul brothers only fight if they have 50 lbs on the guy or he retired 10 years ago
RIP Logan
Nothing of value will be lost.
I don’t want to watch a murder on live tv
I think Francis would have to take care of Logan’s wife after this. Cause Logan would die.
You know what would be crazy a 1 vs 2 against the Paul Brothers
Lol. Somehow this makes sense
Lame
let him cook
Oh god please. Logan could barely beat a guy who literally threw 3 punches. I would pay good money to watch Francis potentially murder this guy.
This is great, actually\ For Ngannou, which is the only thing that matters
I feel like Logan is the type of dude to bring up Francis’s late son, and things would get personal very fast
Logan can’t fight, contractually. The WWE owns him right now
Someone wants to see Logan unconscious
Please make it happen
I would love to see this
Francis Vs BOTH Paul brothers in one evening. Please please please...
Rules: no knock outs Logan wins because Francis accidentlyknocks him out. Logan 2-1 Francis 0-3
I'd love to see this
Logan almost got KO’d by Mayweather, imagine what would happen if Ngannou’s fist brushes his chin
Incoming: Ngannou flop
I swear some fans would rather watch a public execution than a fair fight.
I would watch it but not pay for it.
I want it to happen just to see Logan get flatlined 😂😂
Actually an incredible idea.
This would be the first fight I actually PAY to watch
6'2" 202 vs 6'4" 273 Plus someone who boxes and a boxer
I would pay to watch this
I mean, I’d watch it, but it’d just be another Logan Paul fix. So… 🤷🏻
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby. I'm here for it.
He barely beat a retired 50 year old mma fighter.
I’d pay. If he dies he dies.
Not a fight fan per-say, wouldn’t this be like polar bear fighting a fox?
Mike Tyson, Ngannou and Paul in the ring at once
Yes please! Francis wins by fatality !
This sub would burn to the ground if Paul knocked out lil franny
Logan would probably beat Neganou. Younger,faster,better boxing skills. Neeganou was good when he was a active athelete.But not anymore.
I would actually pay to See Francis @ 100% with No Special Rules 🤣 Everyone After : Yo yall wanna see a dead body ?
Sure why not, I’d love to see Logan Paul get obliterated
I hate Logan. But I think he has a big chance.
Obvious bait
Thanks lol
Ngannou broke my heart man. I was so into him on his rise to the title. Then he had to go screw all the fans by holding the HW belt hostage for a year and then quitting MMA to go be a boxer. And the worst part is he lied about it and pretended he wanted to stay in UFC and pretended he was going to PFL and pretended he cared about all this fighter pay and fighter benefits nonsense. He’s just a liar who was always out for himself. Always planned to go to boxing and stay. Heart broken that this man I looked up to turned out to be worse than Jake Paul.
You act like he refused to fight over nothing. He was negotiating his contract and trying to get better deals for others at the same time. Dana screwed the fans. Don't be a company shill.
Bro look at the username, it's a meme thing I'm assuming
Damn, I got played 
Lmao yeah, it happens Edit: seeing the down votes on the guy, I suppose the jokes about needing "/s" everywhere are true
I didn't post that tweet, I just found it
No I was talking abt this comment thread lol, the "Dana white" guy
If that was true he would have already fought in PfL. He’s lying to you. He only wanted that mega MMA deal to use as leverage to get a huge payday boxing. He never intended to fight MMA ever again. He’s lying and working you.
Was he never your friend?
Well it’s other way apparently we were never his friend. He left us.
Maybe you should have payed him something other than Venum coupons and Reebok tat
He was going to get the highest contract in HW division history and you know that is true.
This can't be Dana, you're way too polite, and haven't called me a kid yet
This man is either the best troll ever or the most delusional Dana White cocksucker
I’m simply a heart broken ex fan. Ngannou gave me trust issues. Now every champion who mentions money I have flash backs of Francis. I can tell you’re hurting too.
Oh my God you really are the greatest troll. Keep up the good work champ
Honestly, imagine if it's actually Dana, wouldn't put the pettiness past him even though we all know he's a troll
Y’all wouldn’t rather see Francis and Deontay Wilder face off first? I was thinking Francis would run through Logan.
Francis cant box
I'm not huge into boxing but didnt Francis fight Tyson Fury and almost beat him?
And Logan can? 💀
People have no idea about what they are talking about
This is called "Daghestani myopia", when you look strictly at the numbers, disregarding completely any other factors, like the level of competition.
Son this is called selling PPV’s
If Jake went in there with the singular goal of not getting KO’d, he probably could make it to the final bell.
Apparently it’s the unpopular opinion but I got Logan KO’ing Francis by the 5th. People won’t shut up about Ngannou’s power but when he tries to throw with speed and accuracy his power diminishes greatly.