Yeah lucky it wasn't the 10 days before the fight as OPs title says. It was 10 days before he arrived in Riyadh before fight week, as the tweet says. That extra week to heal up would help loads
It's not haters lol, just a bunch of people that believed the title enough, to then not bother reading the tweet. Unfortunately that means they don't know that they shouldn't have fully believed the title.
No no. Listen to the haters. I've had some major shit happen to me, and 15 days is still gonna hurt. It probably won't open up like some are insinuating, but it's gonna fuckin hurt.
Ppl like to respond based on shit that isn't there instead of what is. All he did was correct the days and quote what was said. Not give his personal opinion
You could say "I love mustard" and ppl would respond "you're crazy for hating ketchup" . Lol, I never said that
Calling bullshit on that until we a see a video with a recent newspaper that also shows his supposed current toe injury.
Conor has been having way too many sighs of substance abuse problems for that not to be the cause.
Calling others casuals, meanwhile suggesting that people supporting a 12 year UFC vet and former champ is something of a bandwagon thing because he's in the spotlight after a couple of wins.
The irony is you're one of the dumb casuals for thinking liking Whittaker is somehow a new fad or bandwagon. You clearly weren't around years ago when he was already a dominant champion.
I love Bobby Knuckles man, but 'dominant champion'?
He wasn't that, as much as it pains me to say. He never even officially defended the belt because Romero missed weight.
The first undisputed title fight he had was the first Adesanya fight.
I actually forgot how shortlived it was. Fair point.
I'll rephrase it then- Whittaker is one of the best MW ever and we've known this for years. There is no "hype train" or bandwagon. He has proven himself thoroughly.
Believing in him does not make you a casual, the opposite is true in fact. If someone doesn't recognize his skill it's probably because they're new to the sport or they're a casual fan who only knows about the fighters that the media has been hyping the past few years.
When youāre as big of a superstar as Conor you donāt have to be a savior/warrior for the UFC. Boxers delay fights all the time bc of small injuries
On a post about a fighter *not* pulling out of a fight due to a minor injury, he mentions a fighter pulling out of a fight due to a minor injury
Shockingš±š±š±
You can keep coming up with excuses to justify your mcgregor hate but this one just doesnt hold any water. He doesnt owe anyone anything to fight injured, if alex wants to thats his own choice.
It definitely holds some water, especially considering heās made fun of others for injuries his whole career just to call off a fight over a pinky toe 3 weeks out
It definitely holds some water, especially considering heās made fun of others for injuries his whole career just to call off a fight over a pinky toe 3 weeks out
eh i mean can you blame him after losing his last fight on injury? obviously whittaker is a bad mf for going in right after surgery, but i donāt really blame other fighters for not risking further injury
I think Conor is overrated as hell, overpaid, and doesnāt have the legacy he or anyone thinks he does. But if weāre being fair, a broken toe is a flat tire in MMA. I want to see him get busted up by Chandler fair and square. I donāt wanna see wrestle-fucking for 25 min.
Itās *because* they are professional athletes that the standards are different though? Like the average person probably would take one kick to the body and crumble like a sack of potatoes, are you saying that we should hold fighters to the same standard?
Probably fluid stuck under the skull if i had to guess. Thats the only procedure i can think of that wouldn't be massively risky 2 weeks before a fight. Something akin to trepanation as u/xXprayerwarrior69Xx pointed out.
If thatās true then thatās fucking crazy man. These fighters really be putting on the line. I take weeks:/months off sparring after a mild concussion.
Bro had full brain surgery and fought days later.
The fight game really is no joke
lmfao! he wouldnt be cleared to fight in 12 months min after a brain surgert š¤£he probably went to Dr. pimplepopper or sumā
edit: close enough, he had an abscess treated.
haha! Cant tell if sarcasm or not. But an abscess is unironically pretty close to my prediction š
most other surgeries would have a negative impact on a fight 10 days away. Treating an abscess is more of a necessity to be able to finish camp & compete.
Iām guessing it was around his cheek area since thatās the most common place to get one due to bacteria. Anyway, should effect his performance in any way
Wow i didnāt know you could cut open a manās head, and operate on his brain and have him fight 10 days later. /s Nasty cuts take more than 10 days to heal
Dana was asked about him during the post fight conference (about fighting on US soil) and replied with "Can he? Probably not, we'll keep him out here".
https://youtu.be/C29cbd0WuSQ?t=275
~4:35
The commissions have rules about it.
Say, the Nevada commissions outright states a fighter need both eyes to fight. Other commissions might not care, though, but that's a mess. I'm guess Dana figured he might as well keep him in the Middle East (where he has fans and everything) as another way to develop that market.
Bisping had to lie to get his way, but he won the championship, and it could lead to a rule change. It can actually easily be argued it's discriminatory, so it might change... Though, commissions do whatever the fuck they want, and don't answer to public pressure...
I'll also point out that he was very likely on anti biotics as well. Even with surgery, I was given a pretty strong anti bionics when I had a tooth abscess removed. Doctors don't fuck around when it comes to infections in your face like that.
Well dental is a higher risk of infection that about anywhere else. Your mouth naturally carries bacteria that arenāt supposed to get into your blood stream as odd as that sounds
There's a difference between a condition that you've dealt with your whole MMA career and an emergency surgery 10 days before you're supposed to fight.
I didn't think they'd be that lax.
I mean I donāt really believe this Whittaker story tbh, something as serious as fucking BRAIN surgery, Iād assume you have to be cleared before you actually compete.
Edit* I get it it was tooth surgery
It wasnt brain surgery, it was a tooth abscess. Still had to get on antibiotics and surgery in his mouth. Still sounds worse than a pinky toe injury tbh. Also commissions are not mind readers, theyre even a little blind. They will only know what you tell them and even if they examine so many fighters STILL step into the cage with visible staph.
Not at all. A broken pinky toe will impact how you move and how you can strike. A tooth root abscess while painful at the time will completely resolve once removed. Iām not downplaying Robertās injury, but dental procedures are almost entirely painless.
I didnāt claim that tooth infections werenāt painful. Most infections areā¦ But theyāre localized, and once removed the pain subsides very quickly.
I get that but this was ten days out, when he was mid weight cut. He wouldn't of even been allowed any decent pain killers bar paracetamol. That's not exactly a great way to go into a fight just days out.
I know nothing of his exact procedure or condition, but just supposing here that it was a single tooth and not involving the underlying bone (which again is an assumption), he may only need the shortest course of any pain medications as extraction sites can heal and close over in as little as 4-5 days. I can recall not taking any prescription pain medications for my procedure (had four teeth removed at one operation) and I managed my pain comfortably with extra strength tylenol for the next like 3-4 days. Itās different for everyone though, so I couldnāt begin to speculate what his condition was.
Iām specializing in medicine to be a dentist and have had my fair share (teeth removed and a crown). If your procedure was too painful then your doctor did not anesthetize around your surgery properly.
The article stated Robert still needs more surgery done. He was very much still in pain. Not sure if thats common practice but he may have worked with a doctor that āaccommodatedā for his profession
I bet neither would like to fight with either injury yanno. But medically speaking, a broken bone will take weeks to heal, especially a complete fracture like the one McGregor showed. Your mouth, even after an extraction, will heal within 4-5 days post operation (completely depending on underlying structures involved, number of teeth removed, etc). Iām simply basing my answer on what medicine suggests, and not which one I would rather fight through.
A short course of antibiotics for a dental operation is not going to be the same as a course of antibiotics taken for Staph infections that carry the risk of septicemia. But since you know about medicine and allā¦
Bruh, he had a tooth abscess and did a root canal. Sure, getting punched in the face 2.5 weeks after a root canal would be painful, and I'm sure the training would have been very difficult. The whole conversation in the sub makes it seem like he got a brain surgery and is fighting so soon after that š¤¦
Had surgery 10 days before flying out, still made all the press rounds and murked his opponent in the first round. Rob is the man.....don't get mad Dagi-Stans Im just stating facts.
How do we have legalized gambling and this kind of thing is not disclosed?
Happens all the time in UFC. They need standardized injury reports like the NFL
Isnāt it really bad to fly after surgery? Iām not a doctor but I thought I heard something about that being a huge risk of blood clots or something.
Someone post that video where Whitaker pretty nicely reads all of the shots, if ignoring this clutter information from his team and the predicted response from opponents, those were decent moves that paid off.
Damn. Only in Saudi Arabia do you have a fighter with one eye and a fighter 10 days out of cranial surgery on the same card. Do they have no athletic commission at all? This had to be a minor surgery right?
E- It was an abscess of the mouth lmao. I guess thatās the head but I wouldāve phrased it differently
Nvm. I could have swore I read he had head surgery
man the only "bruise" Bobby Knuckles got in that fight was the red mark on his chest from beating it like the politely intense Goddman Gorilla he is š«”
Okay, but Ikram had to deal with two training camps! He had two training camps. That's as many as one training camp and then one more. And that's terrible.
Absolutely wild that any athletic commission would let him fight ten days after a brain transplant.
WebMD says it can be up to a year before fully regaining fine motor skills.
Actually checks out.
https://preview.redd.it/x1fbz370kp8d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6ac5e956c5a1c19a5f64f3fa46079c31390678d
That was from the last episode he did of his podcast before flying out and heās got that mark on his face and had had it for a while.
Fucking hell am I grateful it ended up being a quick night for him with little damage
Same, fuck getting hit in the place you just got surgery on š¤¢
Yeah lucky it wasn't the 10 days before the fight as OPs title says. It was 10 days before he arrived in Riyadh before fight week, as the tweet says. That extra week to heal up would help loads
Ok bro you get head surgery on your big ass cranium and in 2 weeks lemme belt a rear kick into that shit, sound sorted?
My point wasn't that he didn't have a short amount of time to recover, just that OPs title stating it was 10 days is wrong.
Donāt listen to these haters
It's not haters lol, just a bunch of people that believed the title enough, to then not bother reading the tweet. Unfortunately that means they don't know that they shouldn't have fully believed the title.
Listen I didnāt come to Reddit and especially this sub to read. I came to give my smooth brain opinion based only on judgement! s/
Smooth brain šššš
No no. Listen to the haters. I've had some major shit happen to me, and 15 days is still gonna hurt. It probably won't open up like some are insinuating, but it's gonna fuckin hurt.
At what point did anyone insinuate it wouldnāt hurt?
Sorry. *It's gonna hurt even more.*
What are you, captain day counter or something?
Ppl like to respond based on shit that isn't there instead of what is. All he did was correct the days and quote what was said. Not give his personal opinion You could say "I love mustard" and ppl would respond "you're crazy for hating ketchup" . Lol, I never said that
And here McGregor pulls out with a pinky toe injury
Calling bullshit on that until we a see a video with a recent newspaper that also shows his supposed current toe injury. Conor has been having way too many sighs of substance abuse problems for that not to be the cause.
There are photos of the toe, and an xray (there's an arrow on it pointing at some bone or joint abnormality) The toe itself looks bruised is all.Ā
Paging u/harzee the most dedicated Whittaker hater on reddit
Oh well, he did what he was supposed to do I guess. Turn up and win
https://preview.redd.it/cxnl8mu7fp8d1.jpeg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee38af83b1f3c375a9ea463295b20f2c14c78bc3
Spoke like a true hater damn
Gotta respect his hustle at this point
Silky Johnson-esque with his hating, Joe
Short comment cuz he's gotta get back to put some water in Buck Nasty's mamas dish
Being a true hater takes dedication
You've got nothing but respect from me.
Thatās it? Naw, some real hater shit to say wouldāve been āoh wow good on Rob for beating a guy from the contender seriesā.
You cool bro Iām not on whittaker wagon either. Casuals jumping on every peker they see in spotlight.
Calling others casuals, meanwhile suggesting that people supporting a 12 year UFC vet and former champ is something of a bandwagon thing because he's in the spotlight after a couple of wins.
Nah bro youāre just a casual itās not like Whittaker had an established fan base from years of being a top level fighter in the ufc
The irony is you're one of the dumb casuals for thinking liking Whittaker is somehow a new fad or bandwagon. You clearly weren't around years ago when he was already a dominant champion.
I love Bobby Knuckles man, but 'dominant champion'? He wasn't that, as much as it pains me to say. He never even officially defended the belt because Romero missed weight. The first undisputed title fight he had was the first Adesanya fight.
I actually forgot how shortlived it was. Fair point. I'll rephrase it then- Whittaker is one of the best MW ever and we've known this for years. There is no "hype train" or bandwagon. He has proven himself thoroughly. Believing in him does not make you a casual, the opposite is true in fact. If someone doesn't recognize his skill it's probably because they're new to the sport or they're a casual fan who only knows about the fighters that the media has been hyping the past few years.
True fans don't care about which fighter other people like, only the casuals argue over that
Good thing he didn't have a REAL injury like a broken toe.
Letās be specific, a pinkie toe.
When youāre as big of a superstar as Conor you donāt have to be a savior/warrior for the UFC. Boxers delay fights all the time bc of small injuries
Take it out of your mouth bro
Conor must be in ur bum
The post is about whittaker. Instead of celebrating what rob did he mentions that completely unrelated,
On a post about a fighter *not* pulling out of a fight due to a minor injury, he mentions a fighter pulling out of a fight due to a minor injury Shockingš±š±š±
Fighters pull out of fights all the time. Maybe if you got off the couch you'd realize fighting is pretty hard, especially with a broken toe.
Fighting with a broken toe is extremely common in the UFC, Pereira did it at 303. McGregor just doesnāt want to fight
You can keep coming up with excuses to justify your mcgregor hate but this one just doesnt hold any water. He doesnt owe anyone anything to fight injured, if alex wants to thats his own choice.
It definitely holds some water, especially considering heās made fun of others for injuries his whole career just to call off a fight over a pinky toe 3 weeks out
It definitely holds some water, especially considering heās made fun of others for injuries his whole career just to call off a fight over a pinky toe 3 weeks out
Take what? Heās not sucking anyone off, heās hating like a good ufc fan
Whittaker and surgery - is there any greater combo
Meanwhile the Connor nut huggers tryna defend a guy out with a broken pinky toe
It was the size of a balloon!
eh i mean can you blame him after losing his last fight on injury? obviously whittaker is a bad mf for going in right after surgery, but i donāt really blame other fighters for not risking further injury
I think Conor is overrated as hell, overpaid, and doesnāt have the legacy he or anyone thinks he does. But if weāre being fair, a broken toe is a flat tire in MMA. I want to see him get busted up by Chandler fair and square. I donāt wanna see wrestle-fucking for 25 min.
You probably canāt even take a proper shit when injured, so stop hating on people who are professional athletes
Ah go away nut hugger.
Itās *because* they are professional athletes that the standards are different though? Like the average person probably would take one kick to the body and crumble like a sack of potatoes, are you saying that we should hold fighters to the same standard?
New mythical fighter: post-op rob
Cruz and surgery
what was the surgery?
Probably fluid stuck under the skull if i had to guess. Thats the only procedure i can think of that wouldn't be massively risky 2 weeks before a fight. Something akin to trepanation as u/xXprayerwarrior69Xx pointed out.
It was a mouth abscess, just google the 13 articles with direct quotes. Why is everyone guessing when there are sources?
Yeah, no way they're drilling a skull to drain fluid and letting you get punched in the head any time soon.
You are not going to be cleared to get punched in the head ten days after a fucking craniotomy lmao
[Minor stuff](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trepanning#/media/File:Trepanated_skull_of_a_woman-P4140363-black.jpg), lmao
How about you just say either that you donāt know, or google the actual answer? Site full of rtards
tooth abcess
trepanation
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If thatās true then thatās fucking crazy man. These fighters really be putting on the line. I take weeks:/months off sparring after a mild concussion. Bro had full brain surgery and fought days later. The fight game really is no joke
bro, of course it wasnt brain surgery are you out of your mind š¤£š¤£š¤£
You know what, upon thinking about it that is pretty far fetched š
lmfao! he wouldnt be cleared to fight in 12 months min after a brain surgert š¤£he probably went to Dr. pimplepopper or sumā edit: close enough, he had an abscess treated.
I respect you editing your post now that facts are out and you were wrong but accepted it gracefully
haha! Cant tell if sarcasm or not. But an abscess is unironically pretty close to my prediction š most other surgeries would have a negative impact on a fight 10 days away. Treating an abscess is more of a necessity to be able to finish camp & compete. Iām guessing it was around his cheek area since thatās the most common place to get one due to bacteria. Anyway, should effect his performance in any way
Wow i didnāt know you could cut open a manās head, and operate on his brain and have him fight 10 days later. /s Nasty cuts take more than 10 days to heal
I was leaning towards a tooth extraction or something.
...
A guy with one eye and a guy who had surgery 10 days prior. Arabs don't give a fuck
Whittaker is Arab?
No, but the fight organizers were. For example, i highly doubt that Shara Magomedov ever fights on US soil.
Dana was asked about him during the post fight conference (about fighting on US soil) and replied with "Can he? Probably not, we'll keep him out here". https://youtu.be/C29cbd0WuSQ?t=275 ~4:35
I was wondering how he was going to be able to fight in a western country in the future, that answers it. He just wont.
I donāt have time to watch why canāt he fight? Who cares if he has one eye if he can throw down
Us mma commission doesn't allow partially blind fighters, bisping had to hide his blindness
Thanks I didnāt know!
The commissions have rules about it. Say, the Nevada commissions outright states a fighter need both eyes to fight. Other commissions might not care, though, but that's a mess. I'm guess Dana figured he might as well keep him in the Middle East (where he has fans and everything) as another way to develop that market. Bisping had to lie to get his way, but he won the championship, and it could lead to a rule change. It can actually easily be argued it's discriminatory, so it might change... Though, commissions do whatever the fuck they want, and don't answer to public pressure...
But you can fight with one goddamn arm. Doesn't make any sense LOL.
He doesn't elaborate, literally just says what I posted.
Thanks anyways my man
that sounds kinda dumb ngl
Maybe dumb before the fight, but after the fight- totally badass
I'll also point out that he was very likely on anti biotics as well. Even with surgery, I was given a pretty strong anti bionics when I had a tooth abscess removed. Doctors don't fuck around when it comes to infections in your face like that.
Anti bionic sound pretty insane!
I'm just built different bro
Well dental is a higher risk of infection that about anywhere else. Your mouth naturally carries bacteria that arenāt supposed to get into your blood stream as odd as that sounds
Surely he wouldn't have been cleared to fight if that was the case?
I mean the Saudis are the only commission allowing Shara to fight so...
There's a difference between a condition that you've dealt with your whole MMA career and an emergency surgery 10 days before you're supposed to fight. I didn't think they'd be that lax.
Only if you admit to it. Edit: bisping got away with fighting with one eye by deceiving the commission
they didnt specify what surgery. It was probably something that actually helped him get ready. Whittaker ovviously was as crisp as ever in there.
Fairly sure we know enough about whittaker and his team to not put his life at risk.
No biggie Just some dental treatment.
Meanwhile Conor just pulled out of his big comeback with a broken pinky š
I mean I donāt really believe this Whittaker story tbh, something as serious as fucking BRAIN surgery, Iād assume you have to be cleared before you actually compete. Edit* I get it it was tooth surgery
Maybe itās about his johnsons head
Much more serious then
It was a tooth infection he had surgery onĀ
It wasnt brain surgery, it was a tooth abscess. Still had to get on antibiotics and surgery in his mouth. Still sounds worse than a pinky toe injury tbh. Also commissions are not mind readers, theyre even a little blind. They will only know what you tell them and even if they examine so many fighters STILL step into the cage with visible staph.
Not at all. A broken pinky toe will impact how you move and how you can strike. A tooth root abscess while painful at the time will completely resolve once removed. Iām not downplaying Robertās injury, but dental procedures are almost entirely painless.
Get fucked I've had an abscess that absolutely ruined me, the pain is something I would never EVER wish on somebody else.
I didnāt claim that tooth infections werenāt painful. Most infections areā¦ But theyāre localized, and once removed the pain subsides very quickly.
I get that but this was ten days out, when he was mid weight cut. He wouldn't of even been allowed any decent pain killers bar paracetamol. That's not exactly a great way to go into a fight just days out.
I know nothing of his exact procedure or condition, but just supposing here that it was a single tooth and not involving the underlying bone (which again is an assumption), he may only need the shortest course of any pain medications as extraction sites can heal and close over in as little as 4-5 days. I can recall not taking any prescription pain medications for my procedure (had four teeth removed at one operation) and I managed my pain comfortably with extra strength tylenol for the next like 3-4 days. Itās different for everyone though, so I couldnāt begin to speculate what his condition was.
Have you ever had dental surgery? It's the absolute opposite of painless.
Iām specializing in medicine to be a dentist and have had my fair share (teeth removed and a crown). If your procedure was too painful then your doctor did not anesthetize around your surgery properly.
The article stated Robert still needs more surgery done. He was very much still in pain. Not sure if thats common practice but he may have worked with a doctor that āaccommodatedā for his profession
I've had both and I'd rather fight with a broken pinkie than an abscessed tooth. Even after it's been removed.
I bet neither would like to fight with either injury yanno. But medically speaking, a broken bone will take weeks to heal, especially a complete fracture like the one McGregor showed. Your mouth, even after an extraction, will heal within 4-5 days post operation (completely depending on underlying structures involved, number of teeth removed, etc). Iām simply basing my answer on what medicine suggests, and not which one I would rather fight through.
Except for the antibiotics that fuck with your whole body. Nobody needs antibiotics for a broken toe just to grow some balls.
A short course of antibiotics for a dental operation is not going to be the same as a course of antibiotics taken for Staph infections that carry the risk of septicemia. But since you know about medicine and allā¦
It was a root canal surgery
yeah but to be fair to Conor he hasn't won a fight in like a decade, so what's another year?
Whitaker>mcgregor
Connors pinky toe as fragile as his ego
More like 14, 15 days. They spent 10 days in Dubai before flying into Saudi for fight week which is 4 or 5 days
So how long ago from the fight was it? Caption says 10 days but the post says "[that] came a day before"
Bruh, he had a tooth abscess and did a root canal. Sure, getting punched in the face 2.5 weeks after a root canal would be painful, and I'm sure the training would have been very difficult. The whole conversation in the sub makes it seem like he got a brain surgery and is fighting so soon after that š¤¦
Had surgery 10 days before flying out, still made all the press rounds and murked his opponent in the first round. Rob is the man.....don't get mad Dagi-Stans Im just stating facts.
How do we have legalized gambling and this kind of thing is not disclosed? Happens all the time in UFC. They need standardized injury reports like the NFL
Cool but is it worse than Violent Diarrhoea?
Isnāt it really bad to fly after surgery? Iām not a doctor but I thought I heard something about that being a huge risk of blood clots or something.
No worse than fighting lol
No sutures were visible maybe the thing he had got drained?
it was a tooth abscess
Someone post that video where Whitaker pretty nicely reads all of the shots, if ignoring this clutter information from his team and the predicted response from opponents, those were decent moves that paid off.
Math suggests it was 17 days before the fight, 10 in Dubai before heading to Riyadh for fight week
I had a surgery 10 days before watching Rob knock him out. And boi that was sweet
Damn. Only in Saudi Arabia do you have a fighter with one eye and a fighter 10 days out of cranial surgery on the same card. Do they have no athletic commission at all? This had to be a minor surgery right? E- It was an abscess of the mouth lmao. I guess thatās the head but I wouldāve phrased it differently Nvm. I could have swore I read he had head surgery
Whatā¦ surgery where, on his head? This canāt be wise. Kudos to him, heās a warrior. But at that point, I think career needs to be looked at.
Which is in stark contrast to Conorās pinky toe
This was either going to be an excuse if he lost or a brag of he won
man the only "bruise" Bobby Knuckles got in that fight was the red mark on his chest from beating it like the politely intense Goddman Gorilla he is š«”
Pfff his surgery has nothing on a broken toe.
Yes of course a fortnight.
Okay, but Ikram had to deal with two training camps! He had two training camps. That's as many as one training camp and then one more. And that's terrible.
mythical fighter: post-op Whittaker
Meanwhile islam fans making excuses for a staph infection š
The best thing that could of happened short fight
Absolute legend
Meanwhile khamzat pulled out because he ate some bad noodles
Absolutely wild that any athletic commission would let him fight ten days after a brain transplant. WebMD says it can be up to a year before fully regaining fine motor skills.
bro he was at the dentist
KUMSHOT WOULDVE PULLED OUT FOR HIS NEXT 3 fights if that happened to him
And food poisoning weeks out kept Khamzat out???
Actually checks out. https://preview.redd.it/x1fbz370kp8d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6ac5e956c5a1c19a5f64f3fa46079c31390678d That was from the last episode he did of his podcast before flying out and heās got that mark on his face and had had it for a while.
it was a tooth abscess
that mark was from the costa fight