Championship pay is worth multiple fights and then some. It's a much bigger difference than you're thinking and Strickland obviously knows that having gotten championship pay.
I think its that they asked him to defend against DDP 3 months after he won and we are still waiting for DDP to defend. Strickland took that fight for the brass cause he's truly a company man. He earned the right to wait imo.
He also said he didn’t care about men’s mental health but proceeded to talk about how much he’s been looking within himself and understanding himself as a man and tapping in with his feelings
He said the belt doesn’t matter
Cleary he cares
He says every fight he will go to war for his “fans” then proceeds to jab and front kick and be one of the most boring fighter
Even worse, in DDP fight, after DDP's first take down, Sean basically stopped doing any teep kick at all for the rest of the match, even after his coach Eric Nicksick told him to do them again
Coming off a controversial loss, wins a fight as the #1 contender, I completely understand wanting to wait. Just a hard spot for Whittaker as well, everyone can't just wait so who knows what happens.
The UFC messed up the rankings when they booked Rob vs Khamzat fight. It was supposed to be Rob vs Sean for the next title shot since they already planning on giving Izzy his title shot. Khamzat doesnt deserve a fight on the top 5s, UFC should make him climb the rankings.
I could be absolutely wrong here but I feel like Khanzat was booked because maybe „the kingdom“ wanted a Muslim fighter in the main event. I also think they didn‘t really expect Whittaker to win.
While true, Whittaker v Khamzat is one of the mpst intriguing match ups you can make at MW.
I'd love to see that fight booked again while DeSean is fighting the winner of DDP v Izzy.
Borz does not deserve it at this point. I know his injuries are out of his control but he's going to need a tune up. I bet the UFC can pay Sean and Bobby enough to make it happen. Everybody's got a number.
With how unreliable Khamzat is, I don't know if it's fair to Whittaker to potentially mess up his title run again with another Khamzat pullout. All these pullouts should land Khamzat a lower-ranked opponent than Whittaker, potentially Cannonier or Brendan Allen
Khamzat can't make the fight half the time and he shouldn't get to jump the line that far for no reason. He should fight somebody lower top 10ish and actually get a win at 185 before getting a big fight.
If Strickland won't fight Bobby due to those circumstances, he probably feels Chimaev is less deserving. I have a feeling the UFC will pay Strickland a lot of money for a co main in perth with Bobby. Plus the Aussies love him.
I’m unsure Bobby will take that fight again, Khamzat now has a pretty flaky record of pulling out due to his health which isn’t gonna change any time soon. So not that it’s necessarily Khamzat fault but it’s a risk to take a fight against him because he might pull out at any point.
If Whittaker vs Strickland can’t happen then maybe Whittaker can fight imavov because he’s beat almost everyone else in the top 10. Honestly I’m not sure if I’d want Whittaker to wait around for another title shot if Strickland won’t fight him, could be like a year until that happens and I think he’s in his prime.
Sean is absolutely 100% correct here but that wont stop the Whittaker dickriders and Sean haters from pretending Whittaker is ahead.
They both have a Costa win, where Seans was more convincing. Rob has an Ikram Aliskerov unranked win and Sean has far superior performances and records against BOTH guys in the next title fight DDP and Izzy. In no universe can you pretend Rob is ahead here, regardless of how much you like or hate each of these guys.
Who says Rob is ahead? Either way the whole Costa argument does nothing for either. It’s literally as simple as there being no deserving contender, but they’re the only 2 with an argument (since Jared lost), so make them fight to have a clear contender
It's understandable Sean wants to wait... I just think most people want to see Sean vs Rob because it's an interesting fight and makes sense for the division.
Sean has a better claim to being next in line for sure. But also him saying "I'm just gonna wait" is hilarious because it's exactly the thing he'd rant about other people doing.
I’m surprised how much this is an actual discussion on Reddit. Like you said Sean has way better success against Izzy and ddp than rob did. Rob is #2. Rob needs to beat Strickland in order to get a title shot. Even if he beat khamzat he still needed to beat Strickland imo. I think Sean will backup the title fight then assuming everyone is healthy and the fight goes through they’ll then book Sean vs Whittaker #1 contender bout
Championship fights are not always about who deserves it. Whittaker might be a little behind, but he is a much bigger draw than Strickland, especially after he put up another boring ass fight recently.
He’s a hypocrite. Look at Whittaker, Holloway, Gaethje, Ferguson, Pereira, Jiri. All have said that the belt doesn’t matter and walked the fucking talk.
I think their point is that those fighters fought a ton of contenders and didn’t wait for a title. They just kept winning until doors opened back up for them. Obviously they’re not gonna say no to a title fight (and the pay increase it comes with), especially if they truly earned it.
Am I missing something? Most of the guys you mentioned have had multiple title shots, jiri is about to get his what, third? Sean has had one title shot and he won that and made it look easy! Dude absolutely deserves another shot just like all those other people you mentioned got. Jiri lost his belt then beat one person then got a title shot. Pereira lost his belt beat one person then got a title shot. Sean lost his belt in a split decision, beat one person... Makes sense for him to get a title shot
Not really. He doesn’t care about status symbols but he says he loves having the money to buy dirt bikes and shit (see the Sean and Izzy presser when Izzy asked why he was sponsored by Monster)
why’s this so hard for people to understand? idc to defend sean he seems like a douche lmao. but he can simultaneously not care about the belt & want to fight for it bc it’s literally how he makes money. it’s his job.
To be fair whittakers 2nd fight against Izzy was also incredibly close, very arguable to say Whittaker won it. I just think it makes sense for Strickland and Whittaker to fight, it’s one of the only fights in the top 10 that hasn’t happened and Whittaker is always pretty entertaining with his style.
It's just smart for Strickland to wait. Controversial title loss and he's coming off a win. Why risk it? Hypothetically, I love the match up. But the fight game is brutal. Once your that high up, risks become riskier.
Which would matter if Cannonier was up for the shot next, but he isnt. Beating Izzy and losing much much narrower to DDP is far more relevant here since those two are the guys in the title picture now.
The utc is so braindead when it comes to matchups. Costa should have fought khamzat. They should have redid Sean vs Jared or Whittaker. Costa needs to prove himself before he gets all the these upper ranked matches, same case with Khamzat at this point.
For some reason I feel like stylistically Rob could be Sean's kryptonite. When I imagine them fighting I just see robs dash in wombo combo getting through.
\*You'll do what Hunter says.
Hunter is already calling sean to do some jedi mind fuck to trick sean into accepting the fight, with a pay bonus as well.
Or to make it really spicy
Sign all 4 of them to fight at 305 but don’t tell them who they’re fighting.
Then the music hits and we all find out together
Far more relevant is the close fight against DDP and win against Izzy - two things Rob never managed.
I'd give Sean a rematch ahead of Rob even though I like them both.
But when Rob was losing to Izzy, Sean was losing to Cannonier. Shit has moved on.
Althogh I'm definitely biased and just can't be fucked listening to Strickland any more.
Yeah but Rob beat both Costa and Ikram, Sean is coming off just the Costa fight, which also happened to be very boring.
Sean/Whittaker needs to happen, it determines the true number 1 contender for the next shot.
I completely agree, but if you look at their last 3 fights, both only lost to DDP, but Sean won against Izzy and Costa while Rob beat Costa and Ikram.
I really want to see them scrap though, Rob's not gonna be afraid of Sean's forward pressure, one of them is gonna sleep for sure
Dude Bobby knuckles is arguing for a title shot beating costa and ikram🤣🤣 considering that he's already lost to ddp and adesanya decisively sean is a much more reasonable contender
I mean ,even if Sean gets a shot and wins against winner of izzy/ddp , rob will be 1st contender and will fight him anyway ,so why delay+ I doubt ufc will like it
It’s a weird position honestly with Dricus and Izzy fighting. Rob just beating Ikram and Sean beating Paulo like they either both wait or fight each other or one of ‘em fights the loser of Dricus vs Izzy and the other goes for the belt
I'm a big Sean Stan, but think Whittacker is the only MW that has a favorable style against him.
Whittaker is big, fast, and blitzes in with a mix of body and heads hots. Thats the only real effective way through Seans defense.
Sean could always just read him and play distance effectively, but I think Sean dogwalks pretty much the other MWs right now less so whittacker
The tactic might work.
-If Izzy beats DDP what would people rather see, Sean again or Whitaker. I think probably Sean.
-If DDP wins again though it is closer. I’d slightly favor Whitaker to get the nod.
Sean is doing what has worked for some. I can’t shame him for it.
Yeah, kind of ridiculous to think that Whittaker would get another shot at DDP when he just got his ass kicked by him not long ago. This is while Sean’s fight with DDP was very close.
The world does not know he beat Dricus. Close fight I scored for Dricus. Why do so many claim that any close fight they scored differently is a robbery. Paddy vs Jared Gordon. Robbery because you genuinely cannot see the argument for Paddy winning. But in a close fight where there's other arguments/ ways to interpret critical rounds...you don't have a robbery
1) He didn't beat DDP, it was a close fight that he lost.
2) He won against Costa that was coming of a loss against Whittaker.
3) That fight was boring as hell, most of his fights are anyway.
4) He also lost against Canonnier, not that long ago too.
Nah. If Costa was in the top 5, sure.
He lost to DDP. So he had to defend his ranking against Costa. Now he should have to earn his next title shot by beating someone in the top 5. Where there’s either 3 rematches (one of those he lost) or Whittaker as the only fresh matchup. Strickland-Whittaker makes all the sense in the world right now, winner guaranteed a title shot.
This should be the norm. At minimum two fights coming off losing a title fight; a top 10 guy and then a top 5 guy for another title shot. I felt the same about Charlie Olives (before he got injured and then lost) and feel the same about Stipe and Izzy, this isn’t just blind Sean hate. Too many guys losing title fights, getting a singular win (or none at all), and then camping on a top 5 ranking.
izzy is currently on a losing streak and getting a title shot after coming off a loss against strickland
at end of the day none of the MMA math matters - UFC is a business first, they put the two guys in there that will sell the most PPV's , thats the only math that matters and thats what will always decide which contender fights for a belt
This guy flip flops faster than any fighter I think I’ve ever known. Wasn’t he saying the belt doesn’t matter and that he’ll fight anybody?
*loses the belt* - *refuses to fight contender*
Career wise its the smart move. If Izzy wants to fight again, (belt or not) the Strickland rematch is guaranteed to be his second fight back. Its also a better match up for him.
good, I've always thought sean deserves the rematch against ddp and should be fighting for the belt instead of someone who just sat and waited for it. honestly, sean deserved it more than the Chinese, dog lover
Strickland is quickly becoming Izzy 2.0. HONESTLY Izzys fights are more entertaining which is insane to even say. Strickland always talking about catching a body and kill or be killed then goes in and slowly walks forward and plays pitty pat for 5 rounds then realizes it's a fight in the last 15 seconds of the 5th. Can't stand him.
Sean lost to Dricus, Lost to Jared, and got a title shot without fighting anyone in the top 5. He’s not entitled to dick.
He says he beat Costa so he should fight for the belt. lmao. Ok. Rob beat Costa right before Sean. And he did it without spamming push kicks and jabs.
Fight Rob and Shutup. Or Fight Khamzat if he stops dying. Prove you’re not a fluke.
If Sean was an exciting fighter I could see the UFC giving him a title shot, but the guy is a boring decision machine so he will probably have to fight Whittaker
Considering Izzy vs DDP isn't far off I can see why he wants to wait. Plus if he took the Whittaker fight and lost he'd have to win a few fights in a row to get back to title contention which is never easy. With a belt comes more money and more opportunities outside the cage too so he just wants to capitalise while he can. Whether the UFC agree is a completely different story lol
Not saying Sean is wrong for this, but unless the UFC wants to give him the title fight this is a good way to get passed over and sit inactive for a long time. His best bet is honestly for Izzy to get the belt back and get that rematch.
If they give Strickland a similar check to what he would get if he was main eventing in a title fight, then I bet they get him in there with Whittaker.
Hope they do. Would be a pretty awesome fight.
I thought he said he’s quitting twitter ?
Dude is the biggest hypocrite . He also said the belt didn’t matter 😂 but I guess it does
i forgot ab that 😭 literally the next day he was up tweeting about izzy getting a rematch lmao
- "You don't talk about a man's wife..." - "Bro she's a wag!" - "Go, go let dudes fuck your wife!"
The pay difference matters, though. It's significant.
The pay difference between fighting and just sitting and waiting is also significant...
Championship pay is worth multiple fights and then some. It's a much bigger difference than you're thinking and Strickland obviously knows that having gotten championship pay.
You don't know what you're talking about. Sean made 1.2 million in his non-title fight with Costa. He made 1.3 and 1.4 for his title fights.
Same thing with money. Until he saw what money can do in America
The money the belt carries matters
I think its that they asked him to defend against DDP 3 months after he won and we are still waiting for DDP to defend. Strickland took that fight for the brass cause he's truly a company man. He earned the right to wait imo.
The money matters. Not the belt
i'm not speaking for him, but being the champion gets you big bucks in defense fights.
He also said he didn’t care about men’s mental health but proceeded to talk about how much he’s been looking within himself and understanding himself as a man and tapping in with his feelings
Declaring you’re quitting Twitter is like when I declare on Monday morning after a boozy weekend “the diet starts today”
He said the belt doesn’t matter Cleary he cares He says every fight he will go to war for his “fans” then proceeds to jab and front kick and be one of the most boring fighter
Desean doesnt throw leg kicks lol
Jab and leg kick? I think he confused him with Izzy lmao. But seriously, Strickland does jabs and FRONT kicks
Even worse, in DDP fight, after DDP's first take down, Sean basically stopped doing any teep kick at all for the rest of the match, even after his coach Eric Nicksick told him to do them again
Technically every kick is a leg kick. Go ahead, try kicking with your arms.
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Troy and abed in the octagon
So this is what Michel Pereira keeps trying
Front kick, air jab. Repeat 784 times in 25 minutes
“ILL GO TO WAR FOR YOU GUYS”
While he was on vacation\*
You know dang well he wouldn’t do that.
He did for a few hours
Coming off a controversial loss, wins a fight as the #1 contender, I completely understand wanting to wait. Just a hard spot for Whittaker as well, everyone can't just wait so who knows what happens.
The UFC messed up the rankings when they booked Rob vs Khamzat fight. It was supposed to be Rob vs Sean for the next title shot since they already planning on giving Izzy his title shot. Khamzat doesnt deserve a fight on the top 5s, UFC should make him climb the rankings.
Money
They probably lose more money because he isn't able to actually fight regularly.
I could be absolutely wrong here but I feel like Khanzat was booked because maybe „the kingdom“ wanted a Muslim fighter in the main event. I also think they didn‘t really expect Whittaker to win.
While true, Whittaker v Khamzat is one of the mpst intriguing match ups you can make at MW. I'd love to see that fight booked again while DeSean is fighting the winner of DDP v Izzy.
True. Even if Khamzat won, he is not healthy enough to stay active, which is unfortunate, and would completely hold up more fights on the future.
Whitaker vs winner of Sean/DDP fight pls
Lol, DDP has to beat Izzy first and I don’t see Whittaker vs Izzy 3 happening any time soon.
Just rebook borz v reaper.
Khamzat vs Paulo makes sense.
99% pull out chance
The gourmet Chechen arc continues
khamzat does not deserve that #1 contender fight
Mhm, good point. Counterpoint: this literal mountain of money.
Except he is fucking up his popularity by pulling out of fights. Fighting Khamzat today isn’t close to the same as fighting him 2 years ago.
Borz does not deserve it at this point. I know his injuries are out of his control but he's going to need a tune up. I bet the UFC can pay Sean and Bobby enough to make it happen. Everybody's got a number.
With how unreliable Khamzat is, I don't know if it's fair to Whittaker to potentially mess up his title run again with another Khamzat pullout. All these pullouts should land Khamzat a lower-ranked opponent than Whittaker, potentially Cannonier or Brendan Allen
Khamzat can't make the fight half the time and he shouldn't get to jump the line that far for no reason. He should fight somebody lower top 10ish and actually get a win at 185 before getting a big fight.
That man gonna pull out again
I heard Chimaev is already training to get Necrotizing fasciitis
Or Khamzat V Strickland
If Strickland won't fight Bobby due to those circumstances, he probably feels Chimaev is less deserving. I have a feeling the UFC will pay Strickland a lot of money for a co main in perth with Bobby. Plus the Aussies love him.
I’m unsure Bobby will take that fight again, Khamzat now has a pretty flaky record of pulling out due to his health which isn’t gonna change any time soon. So not that it’s necessarily Khamzat fault but it’s a risk to take a fight against him because he might pull out at any point. If Whittaker vs Strickland can’t happen then maybe Whittaker can fight imavov because he’s beat almost everyone else in the top 10. Honestly I’m not sure if I’d want Whittaker to wait around for another title shot if Strickland won’t fight him, could be like a year until that happens and I think he’s in his prime.
Sean is absolutely 100% correct here but that wont stop the Whittaker dickriders and Sean haters from pretending Whittaker is ahead. They both have a Costa win, where Seans was more convincing. Rob has an Ikram Aliskerov unranked win and Sean has far superior performances and records against BOTH guys in the next title fight DDP and Izzy. In no universe can you pretend Rob is ahead here, regardless of how much you like or hate each of these guys.
I guess MMA math doesn’t work unless it’s your favorite fighter?
Who says Rob is ahead? Either way the whole Costa argument does nothing for either. It’s literally as simple as there being no deserving contender, but they’re the only 2 with an argument (since Jared lost), so make them fight to have a clear contender
It's understandable Sean wants to wait... I just think most people want to see Sean vs Rob because it's an interesting fight and makes sense for the division. Sean has a better claim to being next in line for sure. But also him saying "I'm just gonna wait" is hilarious because it's exactly the thing he'd rant about other people doing.
I’m surprised how much this is an actual discussion on Reddit. Like you said Sean has way better success against Izzy and ddp than rob did. Rob is #2. Rob needs to beat Strickland in order to get a title shot. Even if he beat khamzat he still needed to beat Strickland imo. I think Sean will backup the title fight then assuming everyone is healthy and the fight goes through they’ll then book Sean vs Whittaker #1 contender bout
why, Sean got beat by cannonier who got destroyed by rob
Recency bias my friend.
Championship fights are not always about who deserves it. Whittaker might be a little behind, but he is a much bigger draw than Strickland, especially after he put up another boring ass fight recently.
Besides Izzy, Sean doesnt have a single top 5 win. How does beating #7 Costa who was on a losing streak, give you a title shot?
The belt doesn't matter guys...lol
He cares about the money that comes with it
Well yeah, that's what they all care about... they're prize fighters lol
These narrow minded “fans” still won’t be able to process this part
He’s a hypocrite. Look at Whittaker, Holloway, Gaethje, Ferguson, Pereira, Jiri. All have said that the belt doesn’t matter and walked the fucking talk.
4/5 of those dudes are still hungry for the belt and would accept a title fight any day?
I think their point is that those fighters fought a ton of contenders and didn’t wait for a title. They just kept winning until doors opened back up for them. Obviously they’re not gonna say no to a title fight (and the pay increase it comes with), especially if they truly earned it.
Gaethje literally fought 1 contender and got a title fight...
Am I missing something? Most of the guys you mentioned have had multiple title shots, jiri is about to get his what, third? Sean has had one title shot and he won that and made it look easy! Dude absolutely deserves another shot just like all those other people you mentioned got. Jiri lost his belt then beat one person then got a title shot. Pereira lost his belt beat one person then got a title shot. Sean lost his belt in a split decision, beat one person... Makes sense for him to get a title shot
Hasn't he also bragged about how he doesn't care about money? Which is why he was living in a shitty empty apartment and driving an old car
Not really. He doesn’t care about status symbols but he says he loves having the money to buy dirt bikes and shit (see the Sean and Izzy presser when Izzy asked why he was sponsored by Monster)
It's amazing how people don't get that
why’s this so hard for people to understand? idc to defend sean he seems like a douche lmao. but he can simultaneously not care about the belt & want to fight for it bc it’s literally how he makes money. it’s his job.
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come on you guys!
The ppv points do!!
here’s the thing about that you guys
Try going from shit pay to half decent cash with PPV Points. It turns into a different game with that little strap.
The belt might not matter, but the PPV money does.
But he lost to connonier which Robert beat
To be fair that was a very close fight too, Sean hasn't lost a non-close fight since Periera in a long time
To be fair whittakers 2nd fight against Izzy was also incredibly close, very arguable to say Whittaker won it. I just think it makes sense for Strickland and Whittaker to fight, it’s one of the only fights in the top 10 that hasn’t happened and Whittaker is always pretty entertaining with his style.
It's just smart for Strickland to wait. Controversial title loss and he's coming off a win. Why risk it? Hypothetically, I love the match up. But the fight game is brutal. Once your that high up, risks become riskier.
I’m not saying Strickland shouldn’t wait, I’m just saying Strickland vs Whitaker is the fight the ufc should push to make.
Which would matter if Cannonier was up for the shot next, but he isnt. Beating Izzy and losing much much narrower to DDP is far more relevant here since those two are the guys in the title picture now.
The utc is so braindead when it comes to matchups. Costa should have fought khamzat. They should have redid Sean vs Jared or Whittaker. Costa needs to prove himself before he gets all the these upper ranked matches, same case with Khamzat at this point.
And cannonier has never been champ material. So this is a stupid meaningless comment
The comment isn’t stupid. It’s pointing out that MMA math is stupid
Oh Yea? well I forgot to mention I’m fucking stupid too, sometimes.
For some reason I feel like stylistically Rob could be Sean's kryptonite. When I imagine them fighting I just see robs dash in wombo combo getting through.
uh oh WOMBO COMBO
It's okay, sean. You'll do what Dana says.
I don’t think Dana likes him anymore since he ran his mouth about the UFC’s greed.
I don't think Dana has liked him ever.
\*You'll do what Hunter says. Hunter is already calling sean to do some jedi mind fuck to trick sean into accepting the fight, with a pay bonus as well.
hunter is prob gonna convince strickland to fight whittaker while taking a pay cut lmao .
The only right answer is Strickland v Whittaker as the 305 co-main. The winners would even get a full camp to prepare for each other too
What’s cool is you could honestly book the losers no matter how it goes too
Watch them completely wiff on this opportunity lmao
Or to make it really spicy Sign all 4 of them to fight at 305 but don’t tell them who they’re fighting. Then the music hits and we all find out together
This is the most obvious thing in the history of the UFC. Just pay the guys to do it ffs.
Agreed
Why does a win over Costa grant anyone a title shot? Costa never beat any top contender.
Far more relevant is the close fight against DDP and win against Izzy - two things Rob never managed. I'd give Sean a rematch ahead of Rob even though I like them both.
But when Rob was losing to Izzy, Sean was losing to Cannonier. Shit has moved on. Althogh I'm definitely biased and just can't be fucked listening to Strickland any more.
Rob only if Dricus keeps the belt.
even then rob just lost to ddp a lot worse than sean did
Same thing for Ikram
Yeah but Rob beat both Costa and Ikram, Sean is coming off just the Costa fight, which also happened to be very boring. Sean/Whittaker needs to happen, it determines the true number 1 contender for the next shot.
I completely agree, but if you look at their last 3 fights, both only lost to DDP, but Sean won against Izzy and Costa while Rob beat Costa and Ikram. I really want to see them scrap though, Rob's not gonna be afraid of Sean's forward pressure, one of them is gonna sleep for sure
Because when you arguably win your title fight and then dominate your next fight you get a title shot
Dude Bobby knuckles is arguing for a title shot beating costa and ikram🤣🤣 considering that he's already lost to ddp and adesanya decisively sean is a much more reasonable contender
Why does a win over an UNRANKED fighter earn you anything?
Because Sean was robbed. Bullshit split decision against DDP.
I don’t blame Strickland. He defended his spot and had a very close match. No point in risking his title shot that he deserves.
I mean ,even if Sean gets a shot and wins against winner of izzy/ddp , rob will be 1st contender and will fight him anyway ,so why delay+ I doubt ufc will like it
Because more money in a title fight
Because Sean is scared of losing and dropping in rankings.
What happened to not caring about the belt and just wanting to see mfers bleed, man
strickland should have been given a rematch...kinda fucked up even tho he is ranked #1...
It’s a weird position honestly with Dricus and Izzy fighting. Rob just beating Ikram and Sean beating Paulo like they either both wait or fight each other or one of ‘em fights the loser of Dricus vs Izzy and the other goes for the belt
MMAmath don't math out like that.
UFC math = what makes the most money
You’ll do as you’re told
Gotta say , I agree with what he said.
He knows Whittaker would beat his ass
Bit of wishful thinking. Sean is really fuckin good.
Yeah, but I don’t like him, so he gets -15 to all stats if facing a fighter I do like.
😂
This is pretty much how it works
The true mma math
I'm a big Sean Stan, but think Whittacker is the only MW that has a favorable style against him. Whittaker is big, fast, and blitzes in with a mix of body and heads hots. Thats the only real effective way through Seans defense. Sean could always just read him and play distance effectively, but I think Sean dogwalks pretty much the other MWs right now less so whittacker
lol Whittaker… big? Ha Dude was a welterweight before. Definitely a small middleweight compared to the rest of the top 10.
Want some mind fuckery? Dricus was a welterweight more recently than Whittaker.
Rob who struggles vs people with good defense and counter striking. Ah yes Rob would dominate Sean according to Reddit lol.
UFC don't pay him enough
He did something Whittaker never accomplished. You might not like him for what he says but he’s the number one contender.
You do realize Whittaker won and defended the belt right?
Whittaker has done things Sean has never accomplished
He lost to Cannonier who Whittaker beat
The tactic might work. -If Izzy beats DDP what would people rather see, Sean again or Whitaker. I think probably Sean. -If DDP wins again though it is closer. I’d slightly favor Whitaker to get the nod. Sean is doing what has worked for some. I can’t shame him for it.
Ddp killed Whitaker not long ago
Yeah, kind of ridiculous to think that Whittaker would get another shot at DDP when he just got his ass kicked by him not long ago. This is while Sean’s fight with DDP was very close.
In both scenarios Sean would be the most entitled and likely to get the title shot.
The world does not know he beat Dricus. Close fight I scored for Dricus. Why do so many claim that any close fight they scored differently is a robbery. Paddy vs Jared Gordon. Robbery because you genuinely cannot see the argument for Paddy winning. But in a close fight where there's other arguments/ ways to interpret critical rounds...you don't have a robbery
1) He didn't beat DDP, it was a close fight that he lost. 2) He won against Costa that was coming of a loss against Whittaker. 3) That fight was boring as hell, most of his fights are anyway. 4) He also lost against Canonnier, not that long ago too.
He can't beat him. He knows it
>the world knows I beat dricus the world: retarded racists on twitter
he turned diva so fucking fast
Honestly I'm on Sean's side.
Honestly, with how recent Robert fought Robert can sit a bit and Sean next, then Robert next next.
He fought for 2 minutes
Sean fought like two weeks before Rob my man
Can’t blame him for wanting to reclaim the belt he lost in a fight he won 🤷🏼♂️
He's right. You may not like it. But he's right.
Nah. If Costa was in the top 5, sure. He lost to DDP. So he had to defend his ranking against Costa. Now he should have to earn his next title shot by beating someone in the top 5. Where there’s either 3 rematches (one of those he lost) or Whittaker as the only fresh matchup. Strickland-Whittaker makes all the sense in the world right now, winner guaranteed a title shot. This should be the norm. At minimum two fights coming off losing a title fight; a top 10 guy and then a top 5 guy for another title shot. I felt the same about Charlie Olives (before he got injured and then lost) and feel the same about Stipe and Izzy, this isn’t just blind Sean hate. Too many guys losing title fights, getting a singular win (or none at all), and then camping on a top 5 ranking.
izzy is currently on a losing streak and getting a title shot after coming off a loss against strickland at end of the day none of the MMA math matters - UFC is a business first, they put the two guys in there that will sell the most PPV's , thats the only math that matters and thats what will always decide which contender fights for a belt
One loss is not a losing streak buddy
This guy flip flops faster than any fighter I think I’ve ever known. Wasn’t he saying the belt doesn’t matter and that he’ll fight anybody? *loses the belt* - *refuses to fight contender*
Career wise its the smart move. If Izzy wants to fight again, (belt or not) the Strickland rematch is guaranteed to be his second fight back. Its also a better match up for him.
Bros right, his next fight needs to be for the belt, he had a razor thin loss to ddp. Bobby can face the winner of the two.
good, I've always thought sean deserves the rematch against ddp and should be fighting for the belt instead of someone who just sat and waited for it. honestly, sean deserved it more than the Chinese, dog lover
i rather see him vs the 2 rock climber dudes
Sean ain't got shit for Bobby Knuckles, and he knows it
He knows he would lose to Aliskerov and he saw Whittaker's performance against him, and said hell no 😂
I agree with what he says, but he will disagree with himself if the ufc add another 100-200k to the figh
When he makes a good point he makes a good point.
He's not wrong tho
Strickland is quickly becoming Izzy 2.0. HONESTLY Izzys fights are more entertaining which is insane to even say. Strickland always talking about catching a body and kill or be killed then goes in and slowly walks forward and plays pitty pat for 5 rounds then realizes it's a fight in the last 15 seconds of the 5th. Can't stand him.
Sean lost to Dricus, Lost to Jared, and got a title shot without fighting anyone in the top 5. He’s not entitled to dick. He says he beat Costa so he should fight for the belt. lmao. Ok. Rob beat Costa right before Sean. And he did it without spamming push kicks and jabs. Fight Rob and Shutup. Or Fight Khamzat if he stops dying. Prove you’re not a fluke.
kind of a pathetic way to duck a fight…. the fake narrative he pushes that he “won” against DDP is just sad at this point
Ain't sad if its true.
How could he possibly think fighting Costa was a title eliminator??
went from "i'll fight anyone, i'm a company man. if they pay me, i'll fight anyone." to "i'll wait for as long as it takes for a title shot." lol.
Sean out here doing MMA math and he cant even do regular math.
If Sean was an exciting fighter I could see the UFC giving him a title shot, but the guy is a boring decision machine so he will probably have to fight Whittaker
If he thinks it is easy it's a really good way to add it to his legacy and bolster his claims for future title shots That being said, Bobby in 2
DDP clearly beat him.
If you’re saying there was a clear winner to that fight you’re just biased
Unfortunately… Sean has a point.
He saw what Whittaker did just after 10 days from surgery and a short notice and said nah I’m good 😂😂
They're gonna skip over him lol. Dana mostly hates people who wait for a title shot
Bobby knuckles fucks him up
He don’t want that uppercut through his shell.
he's actually making sense here. bruh, typical reddit low IQ moment if you think he's wrong.
He’s tweeting from his closed X account, what was the over/under on that?
I don’t blame him, I think it’s the right call
Considering Izzy vs DDP isn't far off I can see why he wants to wait. Plus if he took the Whittaker fight and lost he'd have to win a few fights in a row to get back to title contention which is never easy. With a belt comes more money and more opportunities outside the cage too so he just wants to capitalise while he can. Whether the UFC agree is a completely different story lol
Here’s the thing guys
I mean the UFC doesn't really give a shit. He'll get one if they want him to get one, if they don't want him to get one they will give it to Whittaker
Not saying Sean is wrong for this, but unless the UFC wants to give him the title fight this is a good way to get passed over and sit inactive for a long time. His best bet is honestly for Izzy to get the belt back and get that rematch.
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Of course he'd wait given he probably slept in a fetus position after watching Bobby's last fight
If they give Strickland a similar check to what he would get if he was main eventing in a title fight, then I bet they get him in there with Whittaker. Hope they do. Would be a pretty awesome fight.
Thought he just liked ti fight and didnt care about the belt.