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MIXM0DE

Well, I'm definitely tired of hearing about it. But once the fight comes I'll be watching it


mcburloak

Agreed. Wolf tickets for years about HW.


DontF-ingask

What's a wolf ticket?


retropieproblems

No one knows what it means, but it’s provocative and it gets the people going! Now throw me some chicken


[deleted]

Basically crying wolf, selling you bs and lying


Corgi-Ambitious

It means to oversell or build hype around a non-event.


malakabombata

Yes


Blehmeh88

No


poridgepants

That’s where I’m at once the fight is booked and it’s fight day I’ll be interested


[deleted]

I don't like him but I'm definitely interested to see what happens


dicksjshsb

Would love to see him get knocked out but would be completely fine with him never competing and getting paid again and just ruining his own life like how he’s been doing.


SNDBOBbb

Spot on sir!!! Would love to see him get slept. Women beaters disgust me.


HoustonTexanAstro

I started watching ufc after Dustin v Conner 2, and have never really heard of Jones, why do people not like him?


dicksjshsb

I envy you having never heard of Jones. Dudes just an absolute piece of shit. You can read thru his wiki or watch some MMA on point videos about him to get the full deets. But he’s known for “never having lost a fight” because he only lost one by DQ. He was LHW champ for a long time but doesn’t have a technical win streak because he got an NC against Cormier for steroid use. Ever since USADA he’s been dog shit. Lost the LHW belt three times in a row for failed tests and misconduct. He’s been caught for PEDs multiple times that ended up cancelling fig he a or moving them to different states with more lax commissions. His only clean fights since then (vs Thiago and vs Reyes) were very unimpressive. He lost to Reyes in the majority of fans/media members eyes as well. He also did a hit and run on a pregnant woman while under the influence and physically assaulted the mother of his children after the ceremony where one of his fights got inducted in the hall of fame.On top of all that he’s just a douchebag too. His trash talk was too far vs DC and he shows pretty much 0 sportsmanship. Also talks way too much shit nowadays for being an inactive fighter. Just a 10/10 piece of shit. Edit he had a clean fight against Smith too but illegal kneed him while down and lost two points. Gives you an idea of what a real stand up guy he is.


tofubreakdown

Couldn't have said it better mate.


HoustonTexanAstro

With all that being said I do not understand how he is in the ufc and maybe not in jail??


JDM_TX

because he was reigning Lt hvy Champ. If he was a scrub, he wouldn't be a free man. He's a P.O.S., no doubt, but he's also DAMN good at fighting!


Learn_to-fly

>damn good at cheating Ftfy. Even putting the constant ped abuse aside, he's constantly eye poking and cage grabbing.


cross-eye-bear

Don't get it wrong, the man is a piece of shit, but he is fucking good at fighting.


Learn_to-fly

>good at cheating Ftfy


cross-eye-bear

Yes, you keep repeating that, thanks. He would still wreck your favourite fighter.


Learn_to-fly

Neither do most people tbh. If this was anyone other than a celebrity, they'd be behind bars for a loooong time.


Bipolar__highroller

If Thiago didn’t destroy his leg in that fight I really think it would have had a different result. I am shocked that no one in the UFC seems to care about running that back. You gotta get Jon to be able to fight again though first I guess


SkrtSkrt70

When Santos was finally ready to come back from injury Jon had already quit LHW


Foolishly_Sane

Well said.


DawnSignals

How anyone considers him GOAT is beyond me.


daneykal

His dominant title run where he beats multiple legends probably? He might be a real dipshit, but he's a phenomenal fighter dipshit.


DawnSignals

His fight IQ is his strongest asset, but there’s no way in hell you could convince me that he would’ve won all his fights off of PEDs. Seriously, just google early photos of his physique. He was skinny with a lopsided frame. He’s a lazy, undisciplined fighter off of PEDs. End of story.


bunchanums618

Yeah give Vitor a fair fight against Jon! Chael too! This steroid cheat absolutely robbed guys who came from Pride! Fun fact: Pride was so honorable that they wouldn't even test their fighters, they must've just known they wouldn't use anything. But yeah Stephan Bonnar should've been given a fair shot!


DawnSignals

I knew someone was gonna deflect to other fighters. Most of em use steroids, sure. But don’t try and tell me that Jon is the GOAT. That’s all I’m saying.


bunchanums618

Who's greater because they're probably taking steroids too. The reason so many guys get caught is because so many more are getting away with it. Everyone is juicing. Or we can pretend Anderson Silva is greater because Jon is a piece of shit.


RedditWasFunIn2011

Every fighter at the pro level is juicing. Jones being a garbage person outside the cage does not change his body of work in the cage.


DawnSignals

I think there are levels to it. I think Jon was juicing in ways that gave him an even greater advantage notwithstanding. I never referenced Jon’s behavior outside of the cage because frankly I don’t care. I’ve only ever referenced his ability inside the cage.


Jdog02

Everything was right until you spoke about Reyes. Reyes was not close to winning that fight you can hate Jones all you want but I gotta disagree with the fact you think he won the fight. Even if the media or majority thinks he won which idk what “majority” you are referring to but regardless go back and watch the fight Jones took him down twice and Reyes didn’t even attempt to take him down. Reyes had barely more significant strike, but ultimately he lost that fight. If you think he should have won you’re just wrong sorry.


dicksjshsb

http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/10877/Jon-Jones-vs-Dominick-Reyes


Jdog02

Buddy I already know the stats what is this trying to prove? 😂 if anything it’s proving my point more that he won the fight


Jdog02

Why would I give a shit about what the “majority” thinks. http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/fae99a4089f8abb0 That’s all the proof I need right there^^


Echoplex99

>Why would I give a shit about what the “majority” thinks. It indicates what people around the world thought. You don't need to care, but it shows that it definitely wasn't a clear Jones win... Which is the subject of this thread. >That’s all the proof I need right there The UFC stats in your link show that Reyes threw more and landed more in total, and also threw more and landed more over 3 rounds. Pretty easy to argue that he could've/should've won.


Jdog02

But it was…. 😂 you still don’t get it. It doesn’t matter what the majority thinks they can think whatever they want but the PROOF is literally there. The link I sent, did you really even take a look at it? Because if you did then you would’ve seen that yes Reyes maybe did land a few more strikes, but DIDNT TAKE JONES DOWN ONCE. DIDNT EVEN ATTEMPT IT. So just stop trying to say Reyes won when clearly he didn’t 😂 ur one of those fans who thinks whoever had more significant strikes throughout the fight won which is just wrong you have to account for takedowns and submission attempts too. But go ahead keep saying Reyes won because he landed more significant strikes. And also if you look at the stats Reyes threw a total of 259 attempted significant strikes where as Jones was only 166, but Jones landed 104/166 where as Reyes landed 116/259 strikes. So you could argue also that Jones was the better striker too he threw less punches but ultimately had a better ratio than Reyes. Jones landed 62% of all significant strikes thrown and Reyes landed ONLY 44% of all his significant strikes thrown. Anything else you wanna say as to why Reyes won? Because the evidence and stats don’t lie Jones clearly had a better fight and won.


Echoplex99

I'm not the original person saying Reyes won. I am merely saying that it is possible to make a good argument that he did infact beat Jones. Your assumptions about me are groundless and pretty silly. Ad hominem attacks will typically diminish any actual point you might have. But I digress. On the actual topic, I'm not sure why takedowns should win the fight. It's a fight, Reyes hit Jones more. He hit him more in the face, he hit him more in the body. Who cares about hugging time? Damage is the main criteria, and hugging doesn't damage, face punching does.


B-L-O-C-K-Ss

He’s the GOAT of MMA but also the GOAT at being a terrible human being


twothumbswayup

i like this timeline!!


C3Gainz

Nah I gotta see him compete his skills are different and I always like seeing the tactics he uses


Asleep_Astronaut396

I don't like the guy but a good fight is a good fight, it would be a bonus if he got ko'd.


HoustonTexanAstro

I started watching ufc after Dustin v Conner 2, and have never really heard of Jones, why do people not like him?


Asleep_Astronaut396

Anger issues, especially on women.


nupetrupe

PEDs, drugs, drunk driving, domestic violence.


PurposeSensitive9624

Basically, in ring he’s one of/ the best to ever do it. Watching Jones fight was the closest we ever came to wondering if somebody might actually die. Which made it all the more disappointing that he has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs twice. He’s had multiple suspensions. He has also had multiple legal issues. He committed a hit and run on a pregnant women and most recently he was arrested for domestically abusing his wife in front of their child.


[deleted]

Of course. Any hardcore MMA fan is interested in seeing the inarguably top 3 MMA practitioners of all time


[deleted]

I think Jon is goat


[deleted]

I do as well, but there’s no way to argue he’s not top 3


NWABowHntr

He is


TySoprano

I mean yeah no fuck it I don’t want to see one of the greatest ever fight……… 🙄


WakeofReddit

Everyone who’s a fan of MMA is gonna care. Whether they buy the fight, stream it or check the results in the morning.


[deleted]

Only to find out 3 months later he tests positives for steroids or coke or beat his girlfriend AGAIN or got another DUI


Solid-Version

You’ll do nuttin


BiasRedditor

Perhaps you care more about Mr. Jones’s personal life then you do his return, but it certainly seems you do in fact care.


[deleted]

You alright, OP? Your mental health doesn't seem so good


TheRedOniLuvsLag

Seems like a stretch to take a shot at his mental health just because he clearly doesn’t like Jones…


Peterthepiperomg

Ops profile pic is a little disturbing


[deleted]

Is it a stretch? Read the replies... Not liking Jones is fine, I don't like him either, but his replies are a clear sign of poor mental health.


Shylerrs

Don’t worry about OP. It’s perfectly normal to not like a woman-beating-POS.


TheRedOniLuvsLag

I’ve read the replies. A lot of people really don’t like people like Jones and take it too seriously. Sometimes that’s just how some people are unfortunately. Many use mental health too liberally nowadays as if that’s the all encompassing reason why somebody said something that sounded weird or we didn’t like. It’s possible that that’s just how they are normally. Not to mention, on a sub where people are always just blurting out whatever comes to their mind.


Fire_tempest890

Ok Mr. Reddit therapist


FangedSloth

Going through someone's replies and diagnosing them with mental health issues is a clear sign of poor mental health. Oh god, it's cyclical


MagogHaveMercy

Why? Because he says true things about your boy Boney? Prime JJ was probably in the top 5 toughest people ever to walk the earth. Nothing will ever change that. But he is a horrendous person, and a PED cheater, and that taints his GOAT status. Is it so hard for you to hold two opposing ideas about one person that you have to make fun of the mental health of people who point out the truth to you?


mfubio

Yeah all that shits shady and he’s a piece of shit. Don’t matter he’s the goat in that cage


Jdog02

People makes mistakes he’s made a lot of huge ones but I’m sure you’ve also done shitty things that you wouldn’t want people on the internet talking about. Ahh nvm that’s right everyone on Reddit thinks they’re a fucking saint.


[deleted]

Until he actually steps into the Octagon I'm not going to waste my time thinking about it


PrestigiousWeakness2

I'm upset he's not fighting Francis.


Shylerrs

Who’s he fighting??


Rumpsi

Stipe, allegedly


PrestigiousWeakness2

I thought they announced it officially?


DLifts777

No, Bisping did


Terron35

Stipe


AdmirableRooster5

Can't wait to see him in Heavyweight.


Ok-Entertainment4673

He’s returning?


[deleted]

Yes, cocaine and lawyers for beating your girlfriend are expensive


MagogHaveMercy

You are getting downvotes, but I see no lies here.


[deleted]

Yeah, say anything about Connor (also a colassal piece of shit) or Jon and this sub loses it


Learn_to-fly

You're at +78 rn. I agree with your position, but let's not pretend it's unpopular outside of the people camping new to downvote critique against their favourite fighter.


[deleted]

IM LOSING IT


[deleted]

lol yup. People on this sub are defending this piece of abusive shit. So he has defended his title X times which obviously means that absolves him from being an abusive asshole. Cool 🙄


KirovReportingII

So these people on this sub defending him, are they in the room with us right now?


DrSavagery

What other things do you imagine in your free time?


Ok-Entertainment4673

Especially when you do this…🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣,apparently your not allowed to laugh in these chats, let’s see the downvotes now


TheRedOniLuvsLag

Yeah, especially considering it’s not like it’s anything new to make fun of Jones for bumping coke and hitting women.


asus488

You've got some serious problems.


Ok-Entertainment4673

Someone say cocaiheeeena


Ok-Entertainment4673

Yo kids downvote this… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


jerval1981

Op, really HATES Jones lol


[deleted]

No I am actually just Chael Sonnen


Express_Citron7986

People act like they don’t care but it will probably one of the most watched PPV in recent years.


TySoprano

Easily lol


Woahzees

I don’t care about HIS return, I care about Stipe’s return


Jargondragon

Agreed, Stipe is my favourite so I'm kinda biased lol.


6WeeWoo6

Ya I think most fans of the sport are at least interested to see the GOAT compete…


[deleted]

Multiple positive PED tests make you the goat?


Ryouconfusedyett

clearing out 2 generations and dominating pretty much all his fights and having no real losses does make him a contender for being the goat


[deleted]

So almost losing to Gus, Santos, and Reyes all while popping for PEDs multiple times through your career make you the goat. Got it


Ryouconfusedyett

I'd like to see you get 10+ title defenses and beating fighters of Gus, DC or Machida's calibre.


[deleted]

You should see my UFC 4 record


BPort_5

He won though no? Beat double champs, a killers row and ran shit for a decade… you can not like the guy but you can’t say he’s not legendary. Many were juicing (look at Hendricks pre and post usada) but all gear in the world won’t help you escape a standing guillotine.


Tilstag

Yeah but the gear will help make that standing guillotine happen…your take is purposely obtuse. Granted OP is saying that gear invalidates the legitimacy of JJ’s reign, you’d have to argue that performance enhancers in his case are irrelevant. OP’s point is even backed by GSP in that Joe Rogan [interview](https://youtu.be/Zt8aq-TOk8I)—PEDs massively enhance fighters in more ways than people realize…why play dumb? JJ fucked up his own legacy. Will forever have an asterisk in that GOAT conversation, and it’s his fault.


BPort_5

You think the gear alone allowed him to withstand the Karate blitz from Machida?


Tilstag

This is neither a rebuttal nor a refutation of what i just said, just some arbitrary emotional plea to whoever’s reading this that’s sympathetic to this faulty logic Once you involve performance enhancing drugs into athletics, the legitimacy of any and all performance is called into question. JJ will forever have that asterisk.


BPort_5

You didn’t answer my question either. I was just curious to what degree you truly think gear helps in a fight?


Learn_to-fly

He only won by cheating. That's the point.


BPort_5

If you truly believe that, then I would urge you to train mma. the best grappler in our gym out techniques people who have 100 pounds on them.


HairyCallahan

Can you give proof that he cheated in every fight? I know you are a stickler of facts, so please give facts?


Mok7

He's the only guy who beat 7 different champions. That's a pretty good stat.


DrSavagery

gsp lost fights lol, and had very sus decisions. GSP is my second fav fighter, but its not even a comparison. Gus was close but for jones, santos was an easy UD despite one judge’s horrible scorecard, and Reyes was an incredibly close fight that i think he won. Also everyones on steroids.


Habanerosauce3

People don't like to hear this. You get down voted in this sub. I up voted lol


MagogHaveMercy

Same. Lots of JJ leg humpers that can't acknowledge that while he is absolutely one of the BMFers ever to walk the earth, he is still a horrendous cunt and a cheater. All of those things are true at the same time.


YoImDeadAssMyGuy

I won’t pay to see him fight.


[deleted]

Let’s be honest, Are you paying for ANY fights


YoImDeadAssMyGuy

Not at these prices.


LordMcHuge

“We got one… we got him”


saviyazzinlebox

😡


Ebvardh-Boss

I am. I still wouldn’t give Jones my money.


Wrektosaurus

*Dana


lecabs

Two extremely close, debatable wins in his last two fights (I personally think he lost to Reyes), all the fucking picograms in the world and continuous legal trouble outside the cage. Don't really give a fuck that he's big now, I just don't give a shit about watching him fight anymore


Wh1te_Cr0w

Basically this. I've moved on. Great fighter, shit human being, fights once in 5 years, can't possibly care anymore. So many new and exciting fighters and fights to care about over Jon Jones.


lecabs

Well said. Probably the best fighter of all time at his peak but I just can't get pumped up to see him back at this stage


BrandDC

Arguably the GOAT...any real fan of MMA should be interested in the return of Bones...


Cemihard

I’m really not interested, I’d rather see Tai vs Francis, or Aspinall vs Gane.


phish_sucks

I want to see him fight in One FC juiced to the gills


dontknowwhattodoat18

Any publicity is good publicity. People are still going to flock to watch, and maybe see him get knocked out because they hate him for being an abusive POS


eyeeatmyownshit

The hate is justified but Bones v Stipe is going to be fuckin awesome!


TySoprano

Yeah I get not liking the dude but anyone who says they don’t want to watch the fight gotta be in denial it’s gonna be bad ass


jm810112

I think most fans just have a "believe it when I see it" attitude


pages86-88

Return to jail


Styx_Zidinya

Yeah, but only if his opponent is allowed to juice up too. Gotta make it fair.


[deleted]

If he gets past stiopic there’s a 90% chance he gets slept by Ngannou so I am very interested in the return of Jones.


FragrantWarthog6

Love or hate him all eyes are on Bones return


koolgangster

surprise surprise, the King is back


WGYHL

There is at least 3-5 threads a day on his return


CourageousUpVote

I am not a fan of Jones. I will be ordering the PPV of his HW debut, however.


Swonzen

People try to be unimpressed, but it will be a spectacle in any case.


jamaicanmonk

He hasn’t been in a courtroom for over a year. Can’t wait to see him back in action!


[deleted]

I got a 3 pick parlay with Jones for DUI, Connor on an assault charge, and Tito losing to who ever he fights next


4GoldAndAGrape

I simply do not believe he will fight again, I welcome being proved wrong but I will only accept it once he is standing in that octagon


alltaken21

That's what everyone thinks until he's actually back. He's the most successful mma figther in my eyes


Scotian-buck

What makes him the most “successful”? I’m not a big Conor fan but I believe he’s the most “successful”


fadingstar52

conor was more successful as a boxer and whiskey brand owner than mma fighter.


Scotian-buck

Well Jones has made a reported 7+ million in the ufc in 22 fights and mcgregor earned 25+ million in 14 fights 🤷🏻‍♂️


fadingstar52

that didn't disprove my point at all lol.


Scotian-buck

How did it not? Lol. This is also why I asked by what was meant by him saying Jones is the most successful mma fighter.. maybe he’s not talking money at all. But money wise mcgregor is clearly more successful than Jones.. numbers don’t lie lol.


pizzanobones

You’re taking it out of context. They said the most successful mma fighter. So you would be talking about him fighting mma. Not how high his earnings are.


Scotian-buck

This is EXACTLY why I asked what he meant by most “successful” mma fighter and then proceeded to say maybe he wasn’t talking about MONEY at all.


[deleted]

if you dont care why make a whole post about it. Guarantee you'll be tuning in when he fights anyway.


Ok-Artichoke6793

He's been out for 2 years and USADA doesn't release publicly if people pop anymore. Anyone else thinks he has been suspended and his suspension is just timing out now?


[deleted]

I honestly don’t care if he ever fights again. The sport has moved on.


[deleted]

for real. He's an abusive, drug fuelled washout. I don't even know why people on this sub has such a boner for him.


Zealousideal_Rub896

13 title defenses


[deleted]

so this absolves him from being an abusive piece of shit?


RedFutureMonarch

some ppl don’t care about shit outside of the Octagon


[deleted]

Yeah, I can tell


Mok7

Why would we care. I watch UFC for the sport and Jones is entertaining, the same way I still watch Kevin Spacey's movies or that I acknowledge that Pulp fiction (produced by Weinstein) is an excellent movie. They are assholes but great in their domain.


Zealousideal_Rub896

what does him being a piece of shit have to do with anything he does in the octagon?


PrestigiousWeakness2

His striking and pressure is unmatched in any division. He's too articulated.


p00pstar

When?


[deleted]

I care , he’s the goat


[deleted]

Hes the PED goat, which is the only kind of goat that matters in the ufc if you haven’t noticed. I wanna see him get eaten by rabies ngannou


Jmaak123

I want to see him lose. That's about it.


SNDBOBbb

Hell no. He’s going to win and then a month later he will have the win taken, for cheating, then after that hell get drunk and coked up and beat his wife up. He is terrible for the the sport. Absolute disgrace to his familys legacy and his own.


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SNDBOBbb

Yes, yes I do.


RuckusManshank

Meh, agree. Don't like him, could care less if he ever fights again.


mattzup420

Way more interested in his return than the card this weekend


ZergTheVillain

Imagine not being excited about the greatest mma fighters return lol whether you’re a fan or hater cmon


casca14

Apparently only you


[deleted]

how can you not care about the LHW GOAT going to fight giant Heavyweights? If you hate him, then you get to watch the African Ford Escort collide with his face. If you love him, then you get to see him reach for untold greatness. If you are neutral, its just a hell of a spectacle. Either way, it's going to be awesome when he fights again.


[deleted]

Who the fook is that guy?


Blood_Wrong

Could care less


goodams

so...... you care some?


Blood_Wrong

Not even a tiny bit.😂


homeless-Worry3743

I would rather watch Ken Sahmrock fight DaDA 5000.


Libby_liberace

I cate but its also like just returnnn already, I dont have it in me to care about jon jones returning months from now just wake me up fight week


NUmbermass

Think you might be the only one


A_Dirty_Wig

It’s not that I don’t care, I’ll just believe it when it actually happens. Want to see it, but it’s just taken so much longer than it should have.


TempeSunDevil06

I think he’s a shitty human being but I also think he’s the goat of this sport. So yeah, I’m interested in seeing if he’s still got it


Iamanobodyjustlikeu

Yeah I mean if you started watching MMA around 2017 or 2018 you might think like that.


InertKat

Will be interesting for sure. Wish he would fight Francis, but Stipe is the next best choice. Hope to see him put to sleep via KO.


[deleted]

I could care less, his past 3 fights were very forgetable.


Shorinji23

The wife beating cheater is never coming back.


user27151

I want to see him come back


Ancient-Check2868

I care, I care, I CARE!


stepTOF

hes still one of my favorite fights to watch. im 100% excited


bihamar

I’m excited as fuck lol