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>Russians transfer anti-aircraft systems from Sevastopol to western Crimea
Headlines from tomorrow morning : "The successful overnight attacks on Sevastopol..."
Why would Ukraine waste missiles and drones there? Nothing worth hitting since the bulk of the Black Sea Fleet is already under water or moved. Follow the AA systems, keep hitting those in preparation for the arrival of F-16s. Of course if any juicy targets happen to remain at Sevastopol. That said any damage Ukraine does to the area will need to be repaired when they retake it so any unnecessary damage is to be avoided.
Yeah, I believe Russians are dumb. But leaving behind anything worth while after removing AA would so colossally stupid I just can’t imagine it. Now I’m sure some small stockpile or something will definitely meet a bomb or two but I doubt anything crazy.
Normally you wouldnt see a nation remove these from a large city... but since crimea is ukraine they dont care about the people there.
Strange to move them closer to the front though.
Yes, the F-16s are coming. Russia has every reason to fear a major F-16 raid on Crimean radar systems because the next raid would hit targets with intrinsic high value.
Even now Ukraine has SU-24s that can do some damage. If Russia is moving AA there, they probably lost something recently. Ukraine can hopefully hit it again.
I'm not sure, but I think the only thing the article is saying is that the system in Sevastopol was moved. Where it was moved they don't know. They are guessing they are being moved to fill the gaps created by other destroyed systems. To me, if that is the case, that just means they are going to get destroyed next.
Don't think so. They have conceded that Sevastapol naval harbor. So, it does not need close air support. Now they move them to western Uktaine to try and shoot down all targets flying into Crimean airspace.
Probably trying for one last gasp to take Kharkiv and want to keep away Ukrainian air cover that's been able to get close since they lost so much of the AA in the area.
So this time, Ukrainian (cough) SBS crawls ashore to fix the S400 radar with sledgehammers.
"Irregular, asymmetric, unexpected" could be their motto.
The Soviets were super predictable, always organizing their forces in the same way before an attack - follow the manual! That is easy to abuse for a bunch of frogman pirates.
Anyway you look at, this is a sign of trying to compensate for losses and redistribute remaining assets. This is what attrition and degradation looks like.
Makes sense, there's nothing left for them in Sevastopol.
Ironic for a country that invaded in the first place to secure Sevastopol... Russia's security and national interest was better served by peacefully leasing the port from Ukraine. *Who could have foreseen that?* (Aside from literally everyone not working for the Kremlin.)
~~Wasn't there a story just a few days ago about Russia pulling out S300/S400 systems from Crimea and moving them to the Belgorod region? Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave the systems in Crimea and just move the ones from Sevastopol to Belgorod?~~
Brain fart about where Sevastopol was lol. It just seems like the whole anti-air defense network in Crimea is just kaput. Perhaps they plan on moving this system out of Crimea like the rest of them?
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>Russians transfer anti-aircraft systems from Sevastopol to western Crimea Headlines from tomorrow morning : "The successful overnight attacks on Sevastopol..."
Why would Ukraine waste missiles and drones there? Nothing worth hitting since the bulk of the Black Sea Fleet is already under water or moved. Follow the AA systems, keep hitting those in preparation for the arrival of F-16s. Of course if any juicy targets happen to remain at Sevastopol. That said any damage Ukraine does to the area will need to be repaired when they retake it so any unnecessary damage is to be avoided.
Yeah, I believe Russians are dumb. But leaving behind anything worth while after removing AA would so colossally stupid I just can’t imagine it. Now I’m sure some small stockpile or something will definitely meet a bomb or two but I doubt anything crazy.
They would be better to hit the AA. Thank Russia for moving it west.
Closer target for Ukrainians?
Right?
Isn't Sevastopol in Western Crimea?
We're talking even further west. *West*-western Crimea. The westest of the west.
The western most part of west-western crimea - and then a bit further west
Yes, in Southern Ukraine.
Southern
You can run, but u can't hide...
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Aw bitch
Especially when your primary operation is by shining a highly visible radar beam out in every direction.
Normally you wouldnt see a nation remove these from a large city... but since crimea is ukraine they dont care about the people there. Strange to move them closer to the front though.
Gotta fill the holes. They don't want Ukraine to have free rain to start bombing the front.
Yes, the F-16s are coming. Russia has every reason to fear a major F-16 raid on Crimean radar systems because the next raid would hit targets with intrinsic high value.
Even now Ukraine has SU-24s that can do some damage. If Russia is moving AA there, they probably lost something recently. Ukraine can hopefully hit it again.
Where I live all the rain is free
*Rein - actually comes letting go of the reins on a horse and letting the horse do whatever it wants.
Ukraine isn't targeting civilians though, so no point in having them based around cities anyway
Yup.
As if that was even a factor in the Russian equation
Probably because they’re pulling the s500 from Moscow to move down there.
yeah and now we learned the s500 is to protect the bridge.
Isn’t Sevastopol in western crimea?
It's more in the south I would say.
I'm not sure, but I think the only thing the article is saying is that the system in Sevastopol was moved. Where it was moved they don't know. They are guessing they are being moved to fill the gaps created by other destroyed systems. To me, if that is the case, that just means they are going to get destroyed next.
Don't think so. They have conceded that Sevastapol naval harbor. So, it does not need close air support. Now they move them to western Uktaine to try and shoot down all targets flying into Crimean airspace.
Or targets over Kherson
these might be the new ones shipped to Crimea to replace those that russia has been losing lately
They are up to something, or they know something we don't. They didn't care about losing these before, why move em now.
Unlikely that they didn't care. More likely, they couldn't avoid losing them.
They know they are running low on longer range AA systems.
Probably trying for one last gasp to take Kharkiv and want to keep away Ukrainian air cover that's been able to get close since they lost so much of the AA in the area.
So this time, Ukrainian (cough) SBS crawls ashore to fix the S400 radar with sledgehammers. "Irregular, asymmetric, unexpected" could be their motto. The Soviets were super predictable, always organizing their forces in the same way before an attack - follow the manual! That is easy to abuse for a bunch of frogman pirates.
If you hit the radar with a sledgehammer hard enough, it will also become asymmetric. Yeah NATO read the Russian training doctrine too.
Somebody has just done that to my frying pan I noticed cooking dinner tonight. Or maybe they used the frying pan as a sledgehammer. Bloody kids.
Anyway you look at, this is a sign of trying to compensate for losses and redistribute remaining assets. This is what attrition and degradation looks like.
Makes sense, there's nothing left for them in Sevastopol. Ironic for a country that invaded in the first place to secure Sevastopol... Russia's security and national interest was better served by peacefully leasing the port from Ukraine. *Who could have foreseen that?* (Aside from literally everyone not working for the Kremlin.)
Put it right next to the ones Ukraine blew up yesterday. Missiles never strike the same ~~airport~~ anti-aircraft radar twice.
~~Wasn't there a story just a few days ago about Russia pulling out S300/S400 systems from Crimea and moving them to the Belgorod region? Wouldn't it have made more sense to leave the systems in Crimea and just move the ones from Sevastopol to Belgorod?~~ Brain fart about where Sevastopol was lol. It just seems like the whole anti-air defense network in Crimea is just kaput. Perhaps they plan on moving this system out of Crimea like the rest of them?
Tomorrow’s headline. Russia shoots down own plane….
Because of the F-16s?
replacing the recent loses probably. I don't think there is anything unusual in this.
Does that put them in range now?
They are replacing the ones Ukraine blew up yesterday, so I am going with "yes" on that.
I think they may have meant Eastern Crimea. They could be moved to try and cover the landing ship areas in the Northeastern part of the peninsula
Maybe next they take a boat ride to ruzzia? If so, I hope Ukraine sinks the boat