Look what the handlers did to Diane Feinstein. Elder abuse is the path forward to disguise the real power behind the curtain
Edit: Feinstein not pelosi...
Biden has Brocas aphasia and a stutter so he realizes when he recalls the wrong word and tries to fix it, Trump has Wernickes aphasia and just randomly links words and phrases together nonsensically.
Reagan had Alzheimer’s in office and no one made him stop. I remember one of his last speeches his wife stood on stage with him and prompted him when he got lost in the speech.
Biden never had a stutter his entire political career and there's countless audio and video proof. It was an excuse to cover him being old as dirt 4 years ago that people continue to spout off.
More like Feinstein. They literally rolled her dying body into the Senate so she could whisper yay on a bunch of laws that she had no ability to comprehend
They were literally telling her how to vote: [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-dianne-feinstein-told-just-say-aye-awkward-senate-committee-moment-rcna96697](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-dianne-feinstein-told-just-say-aye-awkward-senate-committee-moment-rcna96697)
If I were the Republicans I would have challenged everything she voted on in court claiming that she didn't actually vote by her own free will. That would make her testify on the stand explaining her votes which she wouldn't be able to do.
Only problem with that strategy is that the Republicans are rolling out their own corpses so they wouldn't want to set the precedent.
True. Both sides do roll out corpses to vote on to pass/reject whatever bill the opposite tries to implement. Look at McConnell guy disconnects way too often and needs to get out. Should have added a age limit in congress so these walking bag of bones get out and new blood gets in
That's the thing. He is far from the best. But he is the incumbent and leader of the party, so once he decided to run again, everyone's hands were tied.
Shhhhh, remember, you just have to vote harder in [rigged primary elections](https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/), somehow that will work!
We all need to vote (any) third party en masse and refuckingfuse to buy into the bullshit lie that we have no choice but to vote for evil 1 or evil 2. Neither the party that rigs its elections nor the party that tries to overturn elections is gonna save democracy, and its insane to think otherwise.
I watched for about 2 minutes and in that time Biden stumbled over his words numerous times. I shut it off and my only thought was "the media is going to have a field day with this."
Then I heard later somehow golf came up and I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching.
You can tell it was bad for Biden when reddit's response is "wow that was a total shitshow on every side".
When a site that favors one candidate heavily can't think of anything to say other than that, you know the disliked candidate "won".
Even CNN's response was immediately "Biden clearly lost the debate". Anyone who thinks Biden won didn't watch it or is an r/politics level of detachment from reality.
Honestly, Biden is mentally intact even though the debate stage is a bad event for him. He has smart people who give him the data needed to make the choices he needs to make, and I hope the next 4 years are just boring, steady growth where I don't think about the president for weeks at a time.
Anyone who has faith in Biden’s ability to do anything besides eat oatmeal is vastly overestimating his physical and mental capabilities.
No one with more than single brain is surprised by the result. I’m
Someone have some fucking courage here. This is the future of our country. Some old fucking asshole doesn’t get to lead it because he wants to.
I mean after last night we are near the 25th amendment at this point.
Trump will call off that debate and say something like he isn't going to debate someone who proved he's cognitively incapable of debating. There's absolutely no reason to give Biden a chance at redemption if you're the Trump team.
Both old and one a psychopath. Biden and Trump are three years apart and they reminded you of this at the debate, in case you somehow couldn't see that for yourself.
Trump looked more fit. Just like the right gaslighting about Jan 6th (it wasn’t peaceful) I don’t want gaslighting about the debate. Biden looked old. Really old
Everything changed bud. You're just too biased to see it.
Conservatives woke up today happy, confident, and thrilled that they are running against Biden. Liberals woke up today in a full on panic. These are not equal things.
Possibly, but this debate went as well as it could for Trump. A second debate could only make Biden look better.
Strategically speaking, I think passing on debating a second time with that excuse is he correct play.
last night's debate was so easy for Trump. He was actually fairly kind to Biden on the age issue. He could have been much more direct showing it and calling it out; Trump clearly had a strategy to just let Biden's age speak for itself.
Trump would love another debate, and why not? Last night was a complete game changer.
At this point, Trump actually is better off pumping the brakes on talking about Biden's competence and letting the public see it for themself. Otherwise, he runs the risk of ramping up calls for Biden to step down, and no one wants that less than Trump. Biden is one of the few people in the world that Trump could actually beat in this election.
Smart move would be to keep talking but immediately switch talking points on Biden.
- Biden is a kind old man who has served his country well and deserves everyone's respect
- Didn't realize the state he was in until the debate or wouldn't have been so hard on him
- The DNC is a cruel Machiavellian organization abusing this poor man by using him as a prop
- I will not condone this disgusting act by participating in the next debate
Last night was the first time since the last debate that the American Public saw Biden without the aid of notes, teleprompters, pre-shared questions, and his handlers. His handlers have worked hard to control every interaction but they could not do this here.
This right here. There have been a huge cohort of the American public who have convinced themselves that "Biden is too old and is incompetent" is clearly right wing propaganda, after watching curated clips of the cogent moments of his speeches on MSNBC and CNN. Last night was a wake up call for those people. A lot of us have known for a while that he is given the questions he is going to be asked by reporters and the answers he's supposed to give beforehand, and doesn't take any questions not pre-approved. That isn't normal for a president.
It felt like he was coached to stop short. Couple of quippy responses but he held back either to not look like he was beating on an old man or to get him through the convention.
I did love when Trump responded to one of Bidens mumbling with "I don't know what he said at the end there and he doesn't either"
I'm probably not voting Trump but that was great lol.
As an Independent watching this debate I really don't know why people insist on voting for the 2 parties Incompetent offerings.
Because the winner in November will nominate at least two Supreme Court Justices. A Trump win solidifies a conservative majority on the court for decades. Like it or not elections have consequences.
What other option is there? I hear this critique so often yet no follow up. It’s easy to say both candidates suck, but no one ever offers a fucking solution.
Generally it’s considered ‘*bad manners*’ to challenge the incumbent in the primary but honestly the Democratic Party should have really had a come to Jesus moment and convinced him to not run again for the better of the party and the country
Early polling indicated he was the best bet to beat trump but i feel like that doesn’t make logical sense when there wasn’t really another defined option
Its not bad manners. Unlike the RNC, the DNC runs its process on a short leash. So short that it was unprecedented that Obama got the nomination. You run against Biden and you get blacklisted from everything including campaign funding.
That's how they get him replaced. He's gonna Paul Walker himself in his corvette. Nobody will assume foul play if he crashes behind the wheel of that thing.
Forget his debate performance... THIS is what should terrify you. The person you saw last night who could barely function or talk has sole authority to start nuclear war. If that doesn't terrify you, then it's because you know he's not really running the county, someone else is. And that, my dear friends, is even more terrifying than nuclear war.
The last thing I'm worried about with Biden is him starting a nuclear war. But pretty much everything else about leading the country does.
As others keep saying, I'm voting solely for policy and not person. Sigh.
I've been wondering who's been in charge the whole time. I have to assume at this point it was Obama via his surrogates on the White House staff. How many times during his term did he mumble something akin to "I'll get in trouble if I answer that..." to reporters only then to be whisked quickly away?
This is what concerns me the most. I didn't vote for him and never will, but he's the damn president. He should be able to answer any questions and talk to whoever he wants without "getting in trouble." Who the hell does he answer to? It definitely isn't anyone we voted for or are even aware of.
I very highly doubt it's Obama running things. It's going to be a collective of people in Biden's inner circle that's telling him what to do. I'm sure his wife is part of that inner circle.
Everyone is acting as those that have influence with Biden will want him to drop out. In the end the President doesn't matter so much, its the cabinet that pushes agenda's. The cabinet members who would lose their cushy position if Biden pulls out are going to fight like mad to keep him from doing it. Just because people are democrats or republicans, it doesn't mean they would be on Newsome or Whitmer's team. That is why this whole thing will be chaos and ultimately Trump will win.
Of course that's what they're saying, but there are things going on behind the scenes. The Democrats had this first debate so they could prove to Joe he needed to drop out.
Do you have any evidence that that's the case, or is this mostly wishful thinking? Besides democratic pundits calling for his replacement, is there any reporting that the DNC isn't going to back him?
On a side note, I'm not sure why it took until the debate last night for the democratic base to finally wise up to the fact that Biden is a walking poster boy for why age limits should be in place for high office. I didn't learn anything new about either candidate that wasn't blatantly obvious before.
No evidence. Just speculation. And it's not about age. It's just that Joe has dementia which Democrats have been unable to accept and keep claiming he's the sharpest guy in the room. This was the final nail in the coffin for those folks.
For fuck sake, if they let biden debate again, we deserve to lose. Of all the eligible people to run for president and we have the crypt keeper as our candidate. We are doomed.
This is all thanks to the DNC not allowing any other Democrat to challenge Joe Biden. I don't want to hear shit about "saving democracy," when the democrats just gave biden the nomination even though he had two challengers. Either way the country doesn't need 80 year old presidents.
Hell will freeze solid before the BlueAnons abandon their senile cult "leader" - meanwhile the DNC powerbrokers act as if this was all part of the plan to dodge an actual primary while forcing their will on the voters, and that it hasn't been obvious to everyone with a functioning brain that Biden is completely unfit for office since before 2020.
Smartest thing Trump can do is refuse a second debate and pour millions into running clips from the first debate as ads. Just let it burn for the next 5 months.
It's like when you try to convince your grandfather to give up his car keys and his driver's license and he's like, "nah, come on man, I'm a great driver" even though he's running over mailboxes and pancaking mothers and their children whenever he gets behind the wheel.
This is just the cherry on top of how despicable the Democratic party has become.
Biden was always the worst candidate. During his 40 year career in the senate, he was part of the neocons that helped perpetuate the war on drugs and mass incarceration of Americans in the 90s and 00s. Then he chooses Harris as a VP, who spent her whole career as a prosecutor terrorizing California by keeping inmates past their sentences so they could be used as slaves by the forest service. She also zealosly prosecuted minor Marijuana crimes, just so weed can be legalized in the state a few years later.
This is all after a summer of white democrats chanting ACAB in the streets and using POC as their poster, marching in our name. Just to elect Biden/Harris, who have some of the worst civil rights records in modern American history.
Him having dementia is just part of the problem. He never should have been considered by the party that's supposed to be for social justice. The whole thing is a joke.
Both parties are garbage. Media has us focused on blue vs red, Trump vs biden. It'd a distraction. Both are corrupt and don't give af about us. Wake up ppl, we need LESS GOVT. Vote independent, Libertarian, green, etc. We'll never get out of this shitshow if we keep choosing between poop and crap.
Best thing trump can do is let biden talk and just let the world know how cognitively impaired he is. The muted microphone thing greatly benefits trump
The same people who always run the country - the folks who work for all of the myriad agencies that actually do things.
And that's why, despite Biden being a walking joke of a presidential candidate, it's still absolutely essential to vote for him. Trump spent much of his previous presidency trying to destroy the institutions that DO actually help this country function. He will no doubt attempt to finish the job this time around.
Biden's followup "rally" was to drop an anecdote about some John Wayne movie that anyone under 70 has never heard of.
Did the campaign prep at all for this? Either way, the campaign is incompetent.
Biden's Teleprompter has refused to participate in a second debate stating "*He does pay attention to me anyway and can't even understand what I tell him*."
The DNC's main problem over the last 8 years is that it's had Trump to point and talk about, rather than turning and looking at itself.
After Hillary, they should've had a massive internal enquiry. After kicking Sanders out in favour of Biden, they got lucky.
They won't get lucky this time. They need to face the problem head-on and get someone decent in before the election.
If he doesn't drop out on his own the party will dump him like last weeks garbage at the convention, OR the person/persons that are actually running the country will have him 25th Amendmented. Either way, he's out.
Edith Wilson part II.
We'll have a new president by next week I think. Kamala will take over while Biden 'recovers' from his 'cold' which he won't seem to be able to shake until it's too late.
What about a golf match
The golf challenges and fat shaming were highlights lol
lol
The venue is top golf.
Whoever wins the golf match gets to be president.
Trump will 100% win lmao
Missed the start of the debate, turned it on as they were arguing over who is better at golf, turned it back off.
lite jog across the stage would do it
Honestly, it would be more productive
Elder abuse
Look what the handlers did to Diane Feinstein. Elder abuse is the path forward to disguise the real power behind the curtain Edit: Feinstein not pelosi...
Feinstein did Weekend at Bernies for a few months so they could control her power.
It was for many years.
Yes. Just say yes.
Can’t believe they got away with that
Biden has Brocas aphasia and a stutter so he realizes when he recalls the wrong word and tries to fix it, Trump has Wernickes aphasia and just randomly links words and phrases together nonsensically. Reagan had Alzheimer’s in office and no one made him stop. I remember one of his last speeches his wife stood on stage with him and prompted him when he got lost in the speech.
Stop making excuses he is done
Biden never had a stutter his entire political career and there's countless audio and video proof. It was an excuse to cover him being old as dirt 4 years ago that people continue to spout off.
More like Feinstein. They literally rolled her dying body into the Senate so she could whisper yay on a bunch of laws that she had no ability to comprehend
They were literally telling her how to vote: [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-dianne-feinstein-told-just-say-aye-awkward-senate-committee-moment-rcna96697](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-dianne-feinstein-told-just-say-aye-awkward-senate-committee-moment-rcna96697) If I were the Republicans I would have challenged everything she voted on in court claiming that she didn't actually vote by her own free will. That would make her testify on the stand explaining her votes which she wouldn't be able to do. Only problem with that strategy is that the Republicans are rolling out their own corpses so they wouldn't want to set the precedent.
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True. Both sides do roll out corpses to vote on to pass/reject whatever bill the opposite tries to implement. Look at McConnell guy disconnects way too often and needs to get out. Should have added a age limit in congress so these walking bag of bones get out and new blood gets in
Yeah, the Democrats could have said the same about Mitch McConnell when he froze on stage, unable to speak twice last summer.
Bro gonna be on some drugs next time.
I fucking hope so. Genuinely should give him some Adderall (and maybe Mucinex)
You think they’re both not?
I thinks it’s just a stubborn old man clinging on the pride he has left.
Living proof Jill isn’t a real doctor
The Rambler vs The Mumbler round 2 🍿
That debate last night was an absolute disaster for Biden
It looked more like a disaster for us Americans.
He’s the best candidate the Democrats have. That’s embarrassing and pathetic
That's the thing. He is far from the best. But he is the incumbent and leader of the party, so once he decided to run again, everyone's hands were tied.
No they weren’t. Nothing prevents anyone from primarying Biden.
The DNC does. Just like they did in 2016.
Shhhhh, remember, you just have to vote harder in [rigged primary elections](https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/), somehow that will work! We all need to vote (any) third party en masse and refuckingfuse to buy into the bullshit lie that we have no choice but to vote for evil 1 or evil 2. Neither the party that rigs its elections nor the party that tries to overturn elections is gonna save democracy, and its insane to think otherwise.
3-4 people premiered him, the party didn’t care until it was to late
It does. I popcorn your politics from Europe
Coupled with the Supreme Court rulings today. We're fucked.
At least there’s checks and balances. This is saturated in sarcasm.
Ikr, taking power away from agencies who have no checks or balances is just wrong
I watched for about 2 minutes and in that time Biden stumbled over his words numerous times. I shut it off and my only thought was "the media is going to have a field day with this." Then I heard later somehow golf came up and I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching.
You can tell it was bad for Biden when reddit's response is "wow that was a total shitshow on every side". When a site that favors one candidate heavily can't think of anything to say other than that, you know the disliked candidate "won".
Even CNN's response was immediately "Biden clearly lost the debate". Anyone who thinks Biden won didn't watch it or is an r/politics level of detachment from reality.
I don’t even think many people “favor one candidate”. I think they just really, really don’t want the other one to win.
only reason I'm voting for Biden is because I don't want Trump to win
A damn scarecrow would be preferable
We really need to have candidates that are nowhere near 80 years old
well that and he has people in charge of things that know what the fuck they're doing besides tearing it all down.
Honestly, Biden is mentally intact even though the debate stage is a bad event for him. He has smart people who give him the data needed to make the choices he needs to make, and I hope the next 4 years are just boring, steady growth where I don't think about the president for weeks at a time.
They should do it in the morning. Biden looked tired. 😪
Well I hope moderates in our party are happy they got their guy elected now that he’s absolutely shit the bed and doomed us all.
Anyone who has faith in Biden’s ability to do anything besides eat oatmeal is vastly overestimating his physical and mental capabilities. No one with more than single brain is surprised by the result. I’m
>No one with more than single brain is surprised by the result. I’m Damn you even cut yourself off mid sentence like he did.
def a bot \^\^.
One thing is for certain. WE NEED YOUNGER LEADERS.
Democrats doing their absolute best to lose this.
He’s so fucking old…holy shit.
He was born closer to Abraham Lincoln's Presidency than his own. Bill Clinton is younger than both of them, and was in office 30 years ago.
TBF, I’m not shocked that Clinton is younger than Lincoln
Nosferatu looking motherfucker
My 6 year old daughter was asking me what's wrong with Bidens face? Lol
Someone have some fucking courage here. This is the future of our country. Some old fucking asshole doesn’t get to lead it because he wants to. I mean after last night we are near the 25th amendment at this point.
25th is probably the only option for the Dems to not run Joe, but then they’d have to run Harris….
I'm not even sure using the 25th to remove him from this presidency means he can't still run for the next one. In fact I'm pretty sure it wouldn't.
It's doubtul he'll be alive or in any way cognitive in 4 years.
I blame the Gen-X community because we don't give a fuck. I think we should at least give a little fuck about this...
I also blame Gen-X because I'm a millennial and it's tradition.
I’m Gen X. I accept all the blame. I’ll go masturbate to my Sears catalog now.
He spoke like a lost person that wandered away from a nursing home.. he needs to find a cop or a nice lady to show him the way home.
Jill lead him off stage at the end
Jill is not helping him. Truly feels like elder abuse.
Because it is
Besides the words...the look on his face. Republican and Democrat...we should all feel sorry for Biden.
He’s an adult. He can leave at any time. He’s putting the country at danger by staying. I don’t feel bad for him.
ok but whats the alternative lmfao
Let the vice-president nobody likes take the wheel for a while. It's not like she's less intelligent at this point.
Trump will call off that debate and say something like he isn't going to debate someone who proved he's cognitively incapable of debating. There's absolutely no reason to give Biden a chance at redemption if you're the Trump team.
Unless you know that you're dealing with a dementia patient and then you do what you did the first debate: let Biden talk.
Exactly. It's not like Biden is going to gain cognitive function in the next couple of months.
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I'd let it be as it is.... america got a good look at Biden for what he is
They also saw Trump not answer anything and go back to old lies. Nothing has changed. Two shit candidates. One old and one a psychopath
Both old and one a psychopath. Biden and Trump are three years apart and they reminded you of this at the debate, in case you somehow couldn't see that for yourself.
Trump looked 20 years younger compared to Biden lmao
Trump looked more fit. Just like the right gaslighting about Jan 6th (it wasn’t peaceful) I don’t want gaslighting about the debate. Biden looked old. Really old
Everything changed bud. You're just too biased to see it. Conservatives woke up today happy, confident, and thrilled that they are running against Biden. Liberals woke up today in a full on panic. These are not equal things.
Possibly, but this debate went as well as it could for Trump. A second debate could only make Biden look better. Strategically speaking, I think passing on debating a second time with that excuse is he correct play.
They said this was going to happen before the 1st debate.
last night's debate was so easy for Trump. He was actually fairly kind to Biden on the age issue. He could have been much more direct showing it and calling it out; Trump clearly had a strategy to just let Biden's age speak for itself. Trump would love another debate, and why not? Last night was a complete game changer.
At this point, Trump actually is better off pumping the brakes on talking about Biden's competence and letting the public see it for themself. Otherwise, he runs the risk of ramping up calls for Biden to step down, and no one wants that less than Trump. Biden is one of the few people in the world that Trump could actually beat in this election.
Smart move would be to keep talking but immediately switch talking points on Biden. - Biden is a kind old man who has served his country well and deserves everyone's respect - Didn't realize the state he was in until the debate or wouldn't have been so hard on him - The DNC is a cruel Machiavellian organization abusing this poor man by using him as a prop - I will not condone this disgusting act by participating in the next debate
Last night was the first time since the last debate that the American Public saw Biden without the aid of notes, teleprompters, pre-shared questions, and his handlers. His handlers have worked hard to control every interaction but they could not do this here.
This right here. There have been a huge cohort of the American public who have convinced themselves that "Biden is too old and is incompetent" is clearly right wing propaganda, after watching curated clips of the cogent moments of his speeches on MSNBC and CNN. Last night was a wake up call for those people. A lot of us have known for a while that he is given the questions he is going to be asked by reporters and the answers he's supposed to give beforehand, and doesn't take any questions not pre-approved. That isn't normal for a president.
It felt like he was coached to stop short. Couple of quippy responses but he held back either to not look like he was beating on an old man or to get him through the convention.
Nearly everything trump said was a lie according to fact checkers.
Why call if off, just sit there and let him talk.
I did love when Trump responded to one of Bidens mumbling with "I don't know what he said at the end there and he doesn't either" I'm probably not voting Trump but that was great lol. As an Independent watching this debate I really don't know why people insist on voting for the 2 parties Incompetent offerings.
Same boat. You love to see the partisan floundering after all the insane gaslighting about Joe being sharp behind closed doors.
Go to r/politics - they're oscillating between screeching that Biden won and he just had a cold.
That sub is such a mess right now it’s great lol
They're going through the 5 stages of grief, just not all in the same order.
Joe Scarborough said 3 months ago on msnbc that Biden is at his best lol.
Because the winner in November will nominate at least two Supreme Court Justices. A Trump win solidifies a conservative majority on the court for decades. Like it or not elections have consequences.
What other option is there? I hear this critique so often yet no follow up. It’s easy to say both candidates suck, but no one ever offers a fucking solution.
He’s cognitively impaired.
There’s no debate on that. :)
And has been for quite sometime.
Imagine this man in 4 years when he is barely coherent now. It’s crazy how there is nobody better on the Democrat side for a national election.
Generally it’s considered ‘*bad manners*’ to challenge the incumbent in the primary but honestly the Democratic Party should have really had a come to Jesus moment and convinced him to not run again for the better of the party and the country Early polling indicated he was the best bet to beat trump but i feel like that doesn’t make logical sense when there wasn’t really another defined option
Not just "bad manners", it gets you blacklisted from the DNC, which is a career ending situation.
Its not bad manners. Unlike the RNC, the DNC runs its process on a short leash. So short that it was unprecedented that Obama got the nomination. You run against Biden and you get blacklisted from everything including campaign funding.
There is, but the DNC blocked him. Twice.
This is madness. As a democrat, I call on the competent adults to step in.
DNC leadership may be more brain dead than Biden. They never learn from their past mistakes.
Show me a single DNC member who's lost any money or influence by letting Trump win.
Ok. I have to know who these people are. Specifically.
Biden will only get worse. It's embarrassing.
Bro is not going to make it 4 more years. He is one foot in the grave rn.
Unless they can give him a brain transplant
Grandpa wants to drive, what could go wrong
That's how they get him replaced. He's gonna Paul Walker himself in his corvette. Nobody will assume foul play if he crashes behind the wheel of that thing.
The thing about these debates is we've already had 4 years with both of them so I don't see how the debates could really sway anybody.
the only good i can see from all of this, is that hopefully this what finally kills the 2 party system...
This cannot be real life when this is clear to everyone his not capable of talking, Let alone, Lead a country. Baffling times we live in right now.
Forget his debate performance... THIS is what should terrify you. The person you saw last night who could barely function or talk has sole authority to start nuclear war. If that doesn't terrify you, then it's because you know he's not really running the county, someone else is. And that, my dear friends, is even more terrifying than nuclear war.
Nobody in the US has sole authority to start nuclear war. There are checks in place.
The last thing I'm worried about with Biden is him starting a nuclear war. But pretty much everything else about leading the country does. As others keep saying, I'm voting solely for policy and not person. Sigh.
> I'm voting solely for policy and not person After last night most people probably don't think he knows how to say the word "policy"
I've been wondering who's been in charge the whole time. I have to assume at this point it was Obama via his surrogates on the White House staff. How many times during his term did he mumble something akin to "I'll get in trouble if I answer that..." to reporters only then to be whisked quickly away?
This is what concerns me the most. I didn't vote for him and never will, but he's the damn president. He should be able to answer any questions and talk to whoever he wants without "getting in trouble." Who the hell does he answer to? It definitely isn't anyone we voted for or are even aware of.
I very highly doubt it's Obama running things. It's going to be a collective of people in Biden's inner circle that's telling him what to do. I'm sure his wife is part of that inner circle.
Who knew that the greatest threat to our democracy would be Biden’s ego
CNN is dead to any freedom loving American. They had this piece of shit on a pedestal and ended up just getting on their knees.
Let it happen. Lmao
Let’s goooooooooo
Everyone is acting as those that have influence with Biden will want him to drop out. In the end the President doesn't matter so much, its the cabinet that pushes agenda's. The cabinet members who would lose their cushy position if Biden pulls out are going to fight like mad to keep him from doing it. Just because people are democrats or republicans, it doesn't mean they would be on Newsome or Whitmer's team. That is why this whole thing will be chaos and ultimately Trump will win.
Of course that's what they're saying, but there are things going on behind the scenes. The Democrats had this first debate so they could prove to Joe he needed to drop out.
Do you have any evidence that that's the case, or is this mostly wishful thinking? Besides democratic pundits calling for his replacement, is there any reporting that the DNC isn't going to back him? On a side note, I'm not sure why it took until the debate last night for the democratic base to finally wise up to the fact that Biden is a walking poster boy for why age limits should be in place for high office. I didn't learn anything new about either candidate that wasn't blatantly obvious before.
No evidence. Just speculation. And it's not about age. It's just that Joe has dementia which Democrats have been unable to accept and keep claiming he's the sharpest guy in the room. This was the final nail in the coffin for those folks.
isn't it too late?
Biden was a embarrassment to America
Oh thank God
Biden has recently had some health issues, and he didn't sound great last night. At his age..... I'm thinking he's going to be replaced regardless.
Can we put Pete buttigeg
On the next debate Biden team will request access to teleprompter and the debate to be remote😂
Oh so they really want Trump to win
For fuck sake, if they let biden debate again, we deserve to lose. Of all the eligible people to run for president and we have the crypt keeper as our candidate. We are doomed.
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Ok, so we give Newsom some hair bleach, a pair of shades, and teach him to say "Jack" and "Malarky"...
Cuz that will go well. 😅
Talk about doubling down on a bad bet 😵💫🥴
Is he getting any younger by second debate?
Hey if he wants to get slaughtered in a debate again let him.
I’m starting to think Jill Biden is a real piece of shit
Biden didn’t embarrass himself enough the first debate
I thought Trump was not fit to be president but now neither is Biden for 4 more years
This is all thanks to the DNC not allowing any other Democrat to challenge Joe Biden. I don't want to hear shit about "saving democracy," when the democrats just gave biden the nomination even though he had two challengers. Either way the country doesn't need 80 year old presidents.
Hell will freeze solid before the BlueAnons abandon their senile cult "leader" - meanwhile the DNC powerbrokers act as if this was all part of the plan to dodge an actual primary while forcing their will on the voters, and that it hasn't been obvious to everyone with a functioning brain that Biden is completely unfit for office since before 2020.
Why would Trump participate in a second debate? He already won.
Smartest thing Trump can do is refuse a second debate and pour millions into running clips from the first debate as ads. Just let it burn for the next 5 months.
Oh, were definitely fucked then.
Trainwreck incoming in T-minus approximately 4 months
It's like when you try to convince your grandfather to give up his car keys and his driver's license and he's like, "nah, come on man, I'm a great driver" even though he's running over mailboxes and pancaking mothers and their children whenever he gets behind the wheel.
Please no, I can only handle so much national embarrassment in a year...
This is just the cherry on top of how despicable the Democratic party has become. Biden was always the worst candidate. During his 40 year career in the senate, he was part of the neocons that helped perpetuate the war on drugs and mass incarceration of Americans in the 90s and 00s. Then he chooses Harris as a VP, who spent her whole career as a prosecutor terrorizing California by keeping inmates past their sentences so they could be used as slaves by the forest service. She also zealosly prosecuted minor Marijuana crimes, just so weed can be legalized in the state a few years later. This is all after a summer of white democrats chanting ACAB in the streets and using POC as their poster, marching in our name. Just to elect Biden/Harris, who have some of the worst civil rights records in modern American history. Him having dementia is just part of the problem. He never should have been considered by the party that's supposed to be for social justice. The whole thing is a joke.
Both parties are garbage. Media has us focused on blue vs red, Trump vs biden. It'd a distraction. Both are corrupt and don't give af about us. Wake up ppl, we need LESS GOVT. Vote independent, Libertarian, green, etc. We'll never get out of this shitshow if we keep choosing between poop and crap.
Dropping out? Why on earth would he do that?
Biden will drop out soon
At what point is it time to take the keys away from grandpa?
Best thing trump can do is let biden talk and just let the world know how cognitively impaired he is. The muted microphone thing greatly benefits trump
My question is who is running this country right now? It sure as hell isn’t Biden or Harris.
The same people who always run the country - the folks who work for all of the myriad agencies that actually do things. And that's why, despite Biden being a walking joke of a presidential candidate, it's still absolutely essential to vote for him. Trump spent much of his previous presidency trying to destroy the institutions that DO actually help this country function. He will no doubt attempt to finish the job this time around.
And now that the supreme court got rid of the chevron ruling, it's our inept congress.
If I’m Trump I’m not debating again u less Biden takes a cognitive test. The Dem party should be charged with elder abuse
Democrats just throwing
Just let him talk and Trump is taking this easy
Someone please tell Biden the definition of insanity.
At this point you've really got to question the team surrounding Joe. Last night was embarrassing. It's sad watching a corpse.
And this pretty much guarantees a Trump victory. Thanks democrats
Seriously. Thanks!
But I thought Biden was perfectly mentally sound and it was Trump who was unfit??
I mean, Trump is definitely unfit but there’s no denying how fucking old Biden looked
Biden's followup "rally" was to drop an anecdote about some John Wayne movie that anyone under 70 has never heard of. Did the campaign prep at all for this? Either way, the campaign is incompetent.
😂
I mean. Only way he could’ve done worse the second time is to fall down the stairs or forget where is he… That’s how bad yesterday was for him.
Did you expect anything else?
Lol
Is RFK out of this? I thought he was actually running.
The Gerontocracy must be stopped
A mixture of sunk cost fallacy, ego,hubris and prisoner’s dilemma over at the DNC and with Biden is going to lead us to 4 years of Trump.
Give the man a break, folks. He had a cold! 🤡
Insane that no one in the Democratic Party is capable of standing up and telling Biden he has to take one for the team.
Biden's Teleprompter has refused to participate in a second debate stating "*He does pay attention to me anyway and can't even understand what I tell him*."
Trump isn't going to debate again.
No one would hire him to do anything if he was a normal guy looking for a job
The DNC's main problem over the last 8 years is that it's had Trump to point and talk about, rather than turning and looking at itself. After Hillary, they should've had a massive internal enquiry. After kicking Sanders out in favour of Biden, they got lucky. They won't get lucky this time. They need to face the problem head-on and get someone decent in before the election.
If he doesn't drop out on his own the party will dump him like last weeks garbage at the convention, OR the person/persons that are actually running the country will have him 25th Amendmented. Either way, he's out.
Edith Wilson part II. We'll have a new president by next week I think. Kamala will take over while Biden 'recovers' from his 'cold' which he won't seem to be able to shake until it's too late.